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Title: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on September 27, 2007, 07:11:48 pm
Quote from: Gaming Steve
The Long Awaited Update
Not Dead Yet

Yes the rumors are true, I am still alive and well. And more importantly, so is the site (believe it not). People have been asking for an update for quite some time but to be honest I didn't have anything new or encouraging to post so there was nothing to update. But these last few days have been a flurry of activity and I finally have an update on the future of the site -- and it's good news.

So what the heck has been going on? Well let's go back around a year when I first put the call out for new contributors to the site, and oh so many of you responded. The plan was to update the site software with something robust enough to handle multiple authors as well as many other custom features I had planned. Once this new system was in place I would be able to manage the site while having multiple authors contribute on a regular basis. Things were going well, I contracted and paid for a company to implement an industrial strength blogging software package custom designed specifically for this site and things were moving along. That was, until it wasn't and things just started to slowly fall apart. Very long story short is that the software package was never delivered and I wasn't able to find a software package which would perform the work I needed.

However that all changed a few days ago when Movable Type 4.01 (the software I use for this site) was released and it was the answer to my prayers and so much more. Everything I have ever wanted for this site to do I can finally do and as of today the site is now running on this platform. And the administration tools are a dream, all the original content was imported into the site seamlessly and it appears that I can finally run this as I have always wanted.

So the plan for the next few days is as follows: First I'm in testing the site and making sure all of the code has transfered correctly. Already I have found a few bugs which needed to be quashed, but the site seems to be running better than ever. Next I have a new design all ready to go which will bring the site up to the "Web 2.0" standard. This design will take a few days to implement, but the design is pretty much complete so hopefully that will go smoothly. There are also plans to tie the extremely active forums directly into the front-end of the site (which will require some custom programming) but this has been well thought out and should be pretty straightforward to implement. And then ... well, the site will finally be ready for the big new reveal!

As for my ability to continue to contribute and do a podcast I plan do just that. How often I will be able to do this I still to be determined as I am as busy as ever. Which brings me back to where I started this post ... the plan to have other people contribute to the site as well. This way the site can continue to thrive and I can contribute as time allows as it would be terrible to let the site simply fade away.

So once again I put out the call, if you are interested in contributing to the site contact me and we'll take it from there. But watch this space soon for some exciting new changes, they'll be coming faster than you think!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Cobra on September 27, 2007, 07:34:26 pm
I went to the front page on my lunch break although not expecting an update but I generally go there just in case wow was I suprised. Good news indeed.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on September 27, 2007, 08:13:14 pm
Noticed Steve popping in and out today.
Can't wait to see the new frontpage. :)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Oviraptor on September 27, 2007, 08:17:32 pm
Likewise. And finally it looks like the forum will become unique! No more default! :D

Having others put updates on the front should help the site stay more active as well.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Cobra on September 27, 2007, 08:24:41 pm
I'm already thinking up ideas for some good content to contribute. What will be quality control will anyone be able to post up cause i can see that becoming HW and lots of 12 years olds posting "OMGZ is teh Hal0sss!!!1!" Followed by "STFU that sucks more like Gay-lo. ROFLMFAO!"
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: gec05 on September 27, 2007, 09:18:17 pm
I'm already thinking up ideas for some good content to contribute. What will be quality control will anyone be able to post up cause i can see that becoming HW and lots of 12 years olds posting "OMGZ is teh Hal0sss!!!1!" Followed by "STFU that sucks more like Gay-lo. ROFLMFAO!"

Gay-lo... ha ha ha, I should use that. :P
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on September 28, 2007, 07:28:03 am
Good to hear from Steve himself and know he's all well and good. I'm sure many people here would love to help contribute. I, myself, would do what I can. But that really depends on the kind of things Steve is looking for.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: The Time Traveller on September 28, 2007, 02:30:02 pm
I'm already thinking up ideas for some good content to contribute. What will be quality control will anyone be able to post up cause i can see that becoming HW and lots of 12 years olds posting "OMGZ is teh Hal0sss!!!1!" Followed by "STFU that sucks more like Gay-lo. ROFLMFAO!"
I've never posted like that, unless maybe I was being sarcastic about someone else who did it.  Also, since we have moving text, can we have flashing text?  (EG. Text that dissappears and reappears, which you could control speed like you control text size)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Huckbuck on September 28, 2007, 02:33:48 pm
Am I the only one that think its funny that HelloWorld took offence? I think that says something about his behaviour ;)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on September 28, 2007, 03:01:39 pm
There will assuredly be content submission controls in place.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Tesla on September 28, 2007, 03:05:37 pm
Neat. I'd love to write an update but I doubt I'd have any new and popular games before everyone has them.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Hizzah on September 28, 2007, 06:24:10 pm
I'm happy for this...so will Gaming Steve become a more relevant website now that there will be updates and stuff? Maybe head in the more blog like direction of a Kotaku or Joystiq, since it doesn't look like this'll be much of a podcast hub in the near future...

So what's Steve been doing anyways? Kids, working on his game, fantasy football?

 
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gungnir on September 28, 2007, 09:39:38 pm
I'm already thinking up ideas for some good content to contribute. What will be quality control will anyone be able to post up cause i can see that becoming HW and lots of 12 years olds posting "OMGZ is teh Hal0sss!!!1!" Followed by "STFU that sucks more like Gay-lo. ROFLMFAO!"

Give me one example of someone here saying something like that without being sarcastic, regardless of age, and I'll believe you.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: SmileyMan on September 29, 2007, 05:20:41 am
I'm already thinking up ideas for some good content to contribute. What will be quality control will anyone be able to post up cause i can see that becoming HW and lots of 12 years olds posting "OMGZ is teh Hal0sss!!!1!" Followed by "STFU that sucks more like Gay-lo. ROFLMFAO!"

Give me one example of someone here saying something like that without being sarcastic, regardless of age, and I'll believe you.

It was an exaggerated example of a Halo vs. Any other game debate.

Some people... Christ.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Daxx on September 29, 2007, 09:01:24 am
I'm already thinking up ideas for some good content to contribute. What will be quality control will anyone be able to post up cause i can see that becoming HW and lots of 12 years olds posting "OMGZ is teh Hal0sss!!!1!" Followed by "STFU that sucks more like Gay-lo. ROFLMFAO!"

Give me one example of someone here saying something like that without being sarcastic, regardless of age, and I'll believe you.

This is the site for intelligent gaming discussion. It doesn't represent the whole gaming population. Go to GameFAQs, or someplace like that, and you'll see the difference (I'm sure other people can attest to that).
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: The Time Traveller on September 30, 2007, 07:53:43 am
I'm already thinking up ideas for some good content to contribute. What will be quality control will anyone be able to post up cause i can see that becoming HW and lots of 12 years olds posting "OMGZ is teh Hal0sss!!!1!" Followed by "STFU that sucks more like Gay-lo. ROFLMFAO!"

Give me one example of someone here saying something like that without being sarcastic, regardless of age, and I'll believe you.

This is the site for intelligent gaming discussion. It doesn't represent the whole gaming population. Go to GameFAQs, or someplace like that, and you'll see the difference (I'm sure other people can attest to that).
Yeah!  GameFAQs, I saw a Spore forum, and the FIRST PERSON TO POST went on and on about how awful it was going to be and how he hated it, and how if you bought Spore, he'd come to your house and kill you, and he never mentioned why he disliked Spore.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Luminar on September 30, 2007, 02:12:33 pm
"Why" is an inquiry with regards to reason.
You are expecting reason from GameFAQs members.
There is a significantly large flaw in this plan.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Infernal on September 30, 2007, 07:31:52 pm
Look up at the top of the pages^ Thats new, if not a bit dull =P

Hey Steve, want us to make a fancier banner ;)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Hydromancerx on September 30, 2007, 07:40:27 pm
Look up at the top of the pages^ Thats new, if not a bit dull =P

Hey Steve, want us to make a fancier banner ;)

Yay! The banner is back and it looks very spiffy!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Infernal on September 30, 2007, 07:48:25 pm
very large too!  you should put something on the right side.... like, pfft.. i dunno =D
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on September 30, 2007, 07:50:38 pm
very large too!  you should put something on the right side.... like, pfft.. i dunno =D

This is just a preview. There is stuff there, it's just not ready yet.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Yossitaru on September 30, 2007, 07:50:59 pm
Not that i don't think it doesn't look nice, the banner seems a little obtrusive to me. I had gotten used to it not being there.

Though, I am also the kind of person who closed my control panel thingy at the top to see more boards on screen at once. Maybe we could get choices of different types of banners we get to see at the top as part of our individual forum appearance preferences?
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on September 30, 2007, 07:58:19 pm
There was always supposed to be a banner there, I just never got around to putting it in. The new design will have a banner in it, the size might change but the banner (and site navigation) is coming back.

Hum, I thought people would be interested in seeing this ... I guess not. I'll try to take it down a bit later.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Yossitaru on September 30, 2007, 08:01:25 pm
Well, i was just voicing my opinion, and besides, this is your site, therefore your rules.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Infernal on September 30, 2007, 08:29:18 pm
i kinda like it actually..you cant make it less imposing with a shorter length.  might construe your face tho

edit: nvm, i like that one =D!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on September 30, 2007, 08:32:21 pm
I changed the logo to make it a bit smaller. This is just a temp one until the new design is ready.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Hydromancerx on September 30, 2007, 08:44:14 pm
This new one is ok. I liked the one before this newer one.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on September 30, 2007, 08:56:08 pm
I think I like this one better.
It's less imposing
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Cobra on September 30, 2007, 10:07:33 pm
I think the previous one the issue was the contrast of the amont of orange in the banner compered to the blue in the message boards.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on October 01, 2007, 04:38:41 am
It's a work in progress, looks great Steve! Can't wait to see the rest of the changes. :)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Tesla on October 01, 2007, 09:25:13 am
Steve - Any way to add the logo to the babylon theme as well?
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on October 01, 2007, 10:10:50 am
Please don't.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Tesla on October 01, 2007, 10:31:18 am
Why not?
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on October 01, 2007, 11:56:50 am
Babylon is nice because it is simplistic. There is not much other junk to load so it's nice on the bandwidth.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Tesla on October 01, 2007, 12:59:42 pm
Good point.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on October 01, 2007, 02:35:17 pm
Normally I'd be right on board with the banner but I'm on my school's connection and I need to save every bit I can. :)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Fink on October 01, 2007, 03:04:04 pm
You mean this site has a front page?

Odd, I'm so used to just coming here for the forums  :-\  :P
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on October 01, 2007, 03:37:44 pm
I will probably keep one theme very light ... I might even add new ones to let people choose from. It's pretty easy to add themes now with the updated SMF interface, so I'll take a look at their library and see if anything looks good.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on October 02, 2007, 07:07:39 am
Babylon is nice because it is simplistic. There is not much other junk to load so it's nice on the bandwidth.

Cheers to the Babylon theme.

I had no objections to the GamingSteve logo up top. Didn't bother me at all.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: gec05 on October 14, 2007, 02:24:14 pm
So... about that update we were supposed to be getting really soon. :-\
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 15, 2007, 03:13:28 am
Don't you worry. Its being worked on.  ;)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on October 15, 2007, 08:48:12 am
Never heard that one before.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: gec05 on October 15, 2007, 04:42:59 pm
It's getting quite old really.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on November 29, 2007, 06:22:31 am
There is a new front page post!!  :o
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on November 29, 2007, 07:32:41 am
Thanks for the heads-up. Bookmark leads right to the forums nowadays.

Hehe. Interesting little site.

Here's my Halo 3.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/OmegaMet/halo3atari.jpg)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on November 29, 2007, 01:05:46 pm
Here we go...

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6302/dnfatariqe3.jpg)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 29, 2007, 02:16:38 pm
Pah, screw assassin's creed. Heres a must have title for you:

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/Krakowsam/1137008303-main.jpg)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on November 29, 2007, 02:33:39 pm
Damn you Sam! Damn you!!!!!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on November 29, 2007, 02:37:19 pm
Haha. Brilliant.

Here's some.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/OmegaMet/marioshopgame.jpg)

and in case that's not your style.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/OmegaMet/mariovcrgame.jpg)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gungnir on November 29, 2007, 05:09:08 pm
I think we found that internet meme...the one people were trying to make in that one thread..forgot which one.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on November 29, 2007, 10:23:59 pm
Hey look, another update.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on November 29, 2007, 10:40:18 pm
Front page doesn't seem to be coming up for me...
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: TotalSandwich on November 29, 2007, 10:41:47 pm
Two updates in as many days.

The second coming? I fear it cannot last.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on November 29, 2007, 10:43:05 pm
Two updates in as many days.

The second coming? I fear it cannot last.
Doubt not The Steve.

Quote from: Gaming Steve
November 29, 2007
Popular Gamespot Reviewer Fired Over Kane and Lynch Review?
Penny Arcade Gamespot Take

A very interesting story has been zipping across the Internets today concerning video game "journalism" and review scores. According to the rumor, Jeff Gerstmann, a very popular and well known editor at Gamespot, was fired because he gave the game Kane and Lynch a score of 6.0. Eidos, which just happened to have an enormous marketing campaign plastered all over the Gamespot site right now, was not too pleased with his review and demanded the score to be changed.

But why would Eidos want the score changed so badly? Well it seems that Cnet, the owner of Gamespot, promised a certain "type" of score in exchange for their marketing dollars and that "understanding" didn't come through. Of course, Cnet didn't exactly promise a specific score, but rather a "positive tone" to the review. Gerstmann refused to change his score/review so he was fired. No official word has been made at Gamespot, and no word from Gerstmann so this is all hearsay and speculation at this point, but Gerstmann has not been on the site or in his regular Gamespot segments for several days now.

Could this rumor be true? Who knows ... but it should be pointed out that Gamespot has changed scores in the past. Last year Gamespot reviewed Company of Heroes and gave it an 8.9, but a few days later changed their score to a 9.0 and gave the game an "Editors' Choice" award (the official word is that they changed the score because of an SLI issue that was fixed, but that seems a bit too convenient).

But the real question is this, do gaming publications trade good reviews for exclusive access, marketing dollars, behind-the-scene interviews? Could the influx in thousands of dollars in ad revenue in any way shape and form affect the so-called "game reviews" that you read? I mean, what are the chances that upsetting one of the few big-game publishers in the industry could possibly hurt your chances at future access to their games and content?

(Please note, the previous paragraph should be read with a tone of heavy sarcasm to get the full effect. Thank you.)

All I have to say is this -- Gamespot Perfect Dark Zero review ... final score, 9.0 and an Editors' Choice award during the launch of the Xbox 360 and an enormous Microsoft marketing campaign at Gamespot. Amazing coincidence ... or was Perfect Dark Zero, the launch title for the Xbox 360, just that good of a game. You decide.

Oh yes, bonus fun at Penny Arcade with their take on the rumor.
Front page quoted in case it seems to be not working for anyone else.

Also, the tone of this post really made me miss Steve's straight forward attitude from the podcasts.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Mr. Consideration on November 30, 2007, 12:48:41 am
I'm really quite irritated by the utter lack of intergrity on GameSpot's part. This basically proves to me that I should never trust GameSpot reviews.

In an act of defiance, we should boycott GameSpot! Thus, the marketing ploy will fail if we encourage enough people to simply never use GameSpot again.

I'd be boycotting too, but, as I never use Gamespot, thats not so difficult.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 30, 2007, 06:33:17 am
I also posted this in the comments section on the front page, but it bears repeating.
Gamespot members are voting with their feet and panning Kane and Lynch simply to flip gamespot and Eidos the bird: http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/kanelynchdeadmen/players.html?tag=readerreviews%3Balluser
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on November 30, 2007, 07:27:15 am
Holy hell. Look at all those player reviewers giving it a 1/10 over the event. That's insane and wont be good for the game. A pity, all the work put into a game and it's effectively ruined by corrupt companies and bored teenagers. But then again, I s'pose Eidos didn't help any.

Oye... need a facepalm smiley...
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Plank of Wood on November 30, 2007, 09:01:06 am
ITSA BEEN UPDATED AGAIN!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gorman Conall on November 30, 2007, 11:35:10 am
Due to the recent updates you now know why i always said NEVER trust professional reviewers listen to the players the ones who buy the game to play it.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on November 30, 2007, 12:06:26 pm
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ITSA BEEN UPDATED AGAIN!

Holy hell, Steve. Three updates in three days. Making up for lost time now.

Anyhow, those curious about the controversial interview but too lazy to go look it up:

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The Good
Interesting multiplayer mode
You'll see a variety of different scenery as you play.

The Bad
Artificial intelligence is quite lacking.
Weapons don't feel right
Characters and storyline do everything in their power to drive you away from the game
No online co-op mode.

Io Interactive is best known for its stealth-focused Hitman series, but there's nothing quiet and sneaky about its latest release, Kane & Lynch: Dead Men. This time around, the developer put together a crime-themed shooter that starts out with a couple of simple, heist-like objectives and then rapidly spins out of control until, without much warning, you're gunning down soldiers in the middle of a foreign revolution. While the journey sounds interesting at first, and has a few bright points, it's weighed down by bad storytelling, a real lack of character development, and a host of gameplay-related issues. The end result is a game that squanders much of its potential and just doesn't come together as well as it probably should have.

Kane and Lynch don't get along--not in an especially interesting way either.
The story mode opens with you in the role of Kane, a death row inmate on his way to his execution, apparently convicted of being a very savage criminal as part of a notorious gang called The7. You're on your last ride with a quirky guy named Lynch who tells you to cover your head. After an explosion, you're both busted out and on the run. That might sound great, but it's a fate worse than death. The surviving members of The7 have busted you out to force you to recover something they think you stole from them. They consider you a traitor and will kill Kane's family if he doesn't comply. Lynch is sent along for the ride to watch over Kane and report in if anything weird happens. Circumstances change over time and the back half plays out like a revenge tale, but it's a revenge tale where you don't actually care if anyone actually gets their revenge. Every single person you play as or encounter is despicable and wholly abrasive; thus, it'll probably be tough for you to find anyone to latch onto and care about, even if you typically go for this sort of crime drama on TV or in movies. You can play through this story alone or with a friend in co-op mode, though this mode is only available locally and takes place on a vertically split screen that makes it difficult to follow the action, even on a widescreen TV.

The core gameplay in Kane & Lynch is your standard third-person shooter with cover elements and a light dusting of squad tactics. You can fire from the hip, but it's somewhat more accurate to fire while aiming. Unfortunately, even when you're aiming, hitting your targets is more difficult than it should be because your automatic fire has a wide spread on it. Kane is supposedly a badass arch-criminal; he should be able to hit his targets with short, controlled bursts. You're able to get behind cover and either blindfire or pop out for aimed shots, but there's no easy way to stick to walls. You don't press a button or anything; instead you sort of get up against a wall and turn sideways. Then after jiggling the controls back and forth a bit, you'll eventually snap into place to get behind cover. It's such a pain that you'll rarely want to use it, and it seems like you're always snapping into cover behind something at the most inopportune times, making the game quite frustrating. There's no health meter, but if you go down, you don't die immediately either. You can be revived by one of your teammates with an adrenaline shot. If you get that shot too frequently, you'll overdose and die. If your teammates don't reach you in time, you'll die too. Also, if one of the guys on your crew gets dropped, you have to make sure he gets revived. If he dies, the game ends. Between your poor accuracy, the enemy's sharp accuracy, and the boneheaded AI from your squadmates, this all adds up to you keeping your squad on a very short leash.

When you've got a team with you, you can order team members around individually or order the team all at once by telling it to regroup to your location, move to a specific spot, or attack specific targets. Telling team members to move to locations is the most effective move because you can keep them close and revive them when they get shot down. Sending them after targets results in your squad running around aimlessly and trying to get too close to targets. That leads to them getting dropped in the line of fire, where you probably won't be able to rescue them. So whether you're doing the shooting yourself or hanging back and letting your men do the dirty work, the game is a real disappointment, especially when you consider how well this same sort of stuff worked in the developer's previous squad-based game, Freedom Fighters.

There's only one multiplayer mode in Kane & Lynch, and it's a great idea. Unfortunately, the idea doesn't translate into a great or long-lasting experience. It's called Fragile Alliance and puts up to eight players in one team of criminals. Then, it sets the team off to steal money, cocaine, and jewels from various locations seen in the single-player game. So you might start out in front of a bank, run in, collect a bunch of cash, and then escape from in a van out back. The catch is the way the money is split up among teammates. If you all work together, the money is split evenly. But at any point, a player can go rogue and gun down one of his teammates. This brands you a traitor; thus, any money you collect and escape with is yours to keep. Of course, this also means that other players who are still part of the team will try to waste you before you escape with their hard-stolen loot. So every round is a tentative affair where you always expect the worst--you're just never sure when someone's going to finally turn on you. When you die, whether it's from the AI that opposes you or another player, you respawn on the other side of the heist. Now you need to stop the heist by eliminating the other players and you earn money by collecting it before the criminals collect.

It's a bummer that the multiplayer is mucked up by a few different things. First, you're still playing Kane & Lynch, so all of the inaccurate firing issues and poor cover tactics from the single-player still apply. But another problem is that you can see the names of the other players over their heads from a distance and through walls, even if they're on the other side. While you can run while crouched to make your name disappear, it's pretty weak that you can see the names of the police team members as they head your way. There's no element of surprise. Also, there are only a handful of different scenarios for this, and they play out the same way every single time. The security guards are always in the same positions in the bank and the cops are always waiting for you right outside, so it gets old fast.

While it might seem like a basic heist game, Kane & Lynch does a good job of moving the action around, and you'll see a variety of different environments and situations, ranging from banks, to prison breaks, to full-scale conflicts in the middle of illicit poppy fields. It also has some good-looking player models, with Kane and Lynch both looking appropriate as over-the-hill criminals. And even though their faces don't animate much in-game, they still look good. Most of the animation isn't so hot, though, and you'll see a few ugly textures here and there too. Some of it looks a bit unfinished, like the way you see guys go through the motion of hitting you with an adrenaline shot, but their hands are actually empty.

The multiplayer mode is a really cool idea that leaves you wondering who's going to turn traitor on you, but it isn't strong enough to make you forget the game's other problems.
The soundtrack is probably the best part of the whole game, delivering some tense music when the game calls for it. There's a lot of voice acting in the game. The voices are appropriate for the characters, but the dialogue is hokey and filled with gratuitous cursing. The good ol' F word is certainly appropriate, given the nature of what these guys are doing, but when it's every third word out of every character's mouth, it comes across as a crutch that drags down the rest of the game a bit. Lynch frequently responds to your squad-orders by just shouting "F*** you!" Things like that just make the game feel purposely abrasive, and not in a "gritty" or "cool" sort of way.

The game is available on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 as of this writing, and the differences between the two versions are minimal. Both games have occasional frame rate issues and the control issues with finding cover and hitting targets are noticeable in both. The only real difference is that the PlayStation 3 version doesn't seem to have voice chat support. The multiplayer mode only really clicks when you can talk things out with other players and try to convince them that you're not going to turn traitor--only to turn traitor on them and then laugh about it. Without that, the whole experience feels a little dry. The Xbox 360 version also has the standard set of 1,000 achievement points, a few of which reward you for specific moments in co-op, like having the player controlling Lynch put a few cops out of their misery, rather than leaving them to writhe on the ground.

Kane & Lynch: Dead Men is a premise with promise, and if you've been waiting patiently for a game to really dive into the whole "crew-based heist tale" concept, you might be able to look past some of the story flaws. But when you consider the nearly ridiculous number of extremely high-quality shooters available recently, there's not much room for something like Kane & Lynch, even taking into account the somewhat unique nature of its story. That said, the multiplayer is a smart idea that's worth seeing, even if playing it makes you wish that it was used in another, better game.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Tesla on November 30, 2007, 12:11:47 pm
ITSA BEEN UPDATED AGAIN!

All these updates and still no podcast...

>.>
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on November 30, 2007, 01:22:53 pm
He's making progress, maybe a podcast is next.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Tesla on November 30, 2007, 02:47:19 pm
I know, I was only kidding. It's great to see him updating again so frequently.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Plank of Wood on November 30, 2007, 02:49:08 pm
Gaming Steve, stop neglecting your kids by updating your site  ::)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on November 30, 2007, 05:55:20 pm
He's making progress, maybe a podcast is next.

It is next. I have an interview done (a really cool one that nobody else has) and now I just need to do the show around that! I plan on doing the show sometime next week.

In the meantime if you can help the site sort of "come back to life a bit" by perhaps looking at this Digg for the main site and if you like it, Digg it. Believe me, it helps:

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Kane_and_Lynch_Video_Review_that_Got_Jeff_Gerstmann_Fired
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on November 30, 2007, 07:28:05 pm
Dugg.
If Kane and Lynch is as bad as Mr. Gerstmann says, the score seems should have been around 4.0, not 6.0.

If a 5 would be an average run of the mill shooter, and K&L is worse than that, the 6 is unwarrented.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on November 30, 2007, 07:34:53 pm
I digged it too.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on November 30, 2007, 08:07:52 pm
More stuff! (http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/alleged-gamespot-employee-spills-guts-on-valleywag-328797.php)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 01, 2007, 04:44:37 am
I don't use digg, but I did give it a thumbs up on stumbleupon  ;)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on December 01, 2007, 08:12:23 am
I don't use digg, but I did give it a thumbs up on stumbleupon  ;)

I signed up when Aquaman posted his request but I don't normally use it. Comes in handy though for times like these.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on December 01, 2007, 09:44:11 am
Quote
News: Send me your viewer questions for next week's Gaming Steve podcast! Send me an email or audio file (30s or shorter please) to feedback at gamingsteve.com. First come first answered on next week's show!
Next week should be great :)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Tesla on December 01, 2007, 11:46:37 am
I made a digg account just now to digg it.

All that trouble for you Steve!

(Trouble because my connection is so slow so sign-ups are a real pain)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Bosnique on December 01, 2007, 06:29:15 pm
Steve is back finally :)

Also just registered on that site so I can dig it ;)

Can't wait for the podcast. I hope you'll talk about all the great games that came out in the last few months.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Cobra on December 01, 2007, 09:27:08 pm
Did some digging for you Steve.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on December 02, 2007, 11:03:18 am
Another front page update today!!  :)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: TotalSandwich on December 02, 2007, 11:21:02 am
I am compelled. One more step towards a universal gaming corporation.

 :P That ship would be rigged with fails.

I am eager to see what Blizzard-Activision churns out, though.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Tesla on December 02, 2007, 01:09:39 pm
Activision Blizzard? Wow, cool merge, stupid name.

They should have merged with a totally cool name, like Sharksgunsblood.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 02, 2007, 01:17:42 pm
The correct name for the merger is Blizz-o-vision.
Then they can market freeze-ray sunglasses.


I'm not surew I'm ecstatic at the prospects of publishers forming these supermassive blocs, but I guess business is business.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Cobra on December 02, 2007, 06:06:38 pm
Activision - Blizzard bah we know the real story here is "Steve updates 4 times in one week!"
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: ilikesanta on December 02, 2007, 07:38:09 pm
"Steve updates 4 times in one week!"

(head explodes)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Hizzah on December 04, 2007, 02:15:30 pm
and we finally get our very own advertisements just like all the other forums!! ;D!!!1!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on December 04, 2007, 02:25:35 pm
and we finally get our very own advertisements just like all the other forums!! ;D!!!1!

Are you seeing advertisements on the forums? Let me know what you are referring too please.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on December 04, 2007, 03:43:53 pm
I think he means the main page, the banner ad at the top. There is nothing on the forum itself that I can see.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on December 04, 2007, 04:25:20 pm
I think he means the main page, the banner ad at the top. There is nothing on the forum itself that I can see.

Ah, that has been there for years. I just changed the setting so that it can now accept "image" advertising as well as text. Got it.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Hizzah on December 04, 2007, 08:33:40 pm
Oh, didn't mean to shout "fire" in a crowded theater... :-X

Anyways, I'm loving all the updates...especially the opinion ones (worst game ever, etc). Is this gonna be a regular thing?

Haven't listened to the podcast, in case it's mentioned there...
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on December 04, 2007, 09:56:38 pm
Even more news on the front page.  I might actually pick up one of these figures, if it actually looks good.

I also submitted it to digg because, somehow, Steve was able to get the pictures that are currently being obscured by the banner and his is the best writeup that exists thus far.  Feel free to digg the story here (http://www.digg.com/pc_games/Convert_your_WoW_character_to_a_3D_Model).
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Celdur on December 04, 2007, 11:37:36 pm
damn i dont even play wow but id like to see one of those on my desk
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on December 05, 2007, 07:31:31 am
Thousands of hours is probably pretty accurate. I'm was at about 90 days of actual log in time on my Warlock alone.

90 days is 2160 hours.

Probably add about 25 days for alts.


Quit last april. Almost 8 months sober.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on December 05, 2007, 07:41:52 am
I can digg it, you can digg it, we can digg it.... can you digg it... baaabbby.... 

It has been dugg. Updates daily, I love it!!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: stuck on December 05, 2007, 01:40:38 pm
I feel like we've forgotten something...

Wait, what's this? OMG it's EPISODE 64 buried in the rubble!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on December 05, 2007, 01:57:34 pm
Wee.. another update today too.  :)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: gec05 on December 05, 2007, 02:58:49 pm
I find this method a little unhealthy to your sanity. Heck, it's bad enough that you sleep outside a store to buy a system on release.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on December 05, 2007, 03:01:06 pm
Prepare for a possible surge of people...

Kotaku links to GamingSteve (http://kotaku.com/gaming/world-of-warcraft/turn-your-wow-character-cash-into-3d-miniature-330323.php).
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on December 05, 2007, 03:28:00 pm
People have been joining all day long.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on December 05, 2007, 06:08:41 pm
Wow, that's great.  The more the merrier.  We've got 21 new memberships thus far today.

Also, I'm really looking forward to this D&D 4th edition.  Sounds like they've streamlined it enough that even people with my patience level can play.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 05, 2007, 06:41:13 pm
It looks good, but it also looks like its going to be wringing money out of people left right and centre with half-arsed and overpriced Knights of the Nine style not-quite-expansions.
But having a virtual game board and a decent mapmaker would make DMing a helluva lot easier.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Cobra on December 06, 2007, 03:40:53 am
It it me or this thread almost redundant in that there is a daily update pretty much now.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on December 06, 2007, 07:11:42 am
It it me or this thread almost redundant in that there is a daily update pretty much now.

Rejoice. This seems to have gone from the "OMG an Update for the first time in months" thread to a "Discuss the latest update" thread.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on December 06, 2007, 08:34:05 am
This thread is better than a bunch of idiots having a mad dash to be the one to make a new topic for each update. :P
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Xenomorph on December 11, 2007, 07:20:41 am
OMFG! I WIN! :D :D :D *dances like a maniac*

i didn't even knew about the prizes! :)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Huckbuck on December 11, 2007, 08:15:30 am
Congrats Xeno! :P
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Xenomorph on December 11, 2007, 08:19:26 am
Congrats Xeno! :P

thanks huck!

i'm sorry i'm so hyped but i never win ANYTHING! :D
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 11, 2007, 08:23:33 am
Good show. I didn't even get third and I spent 3 hours thinking up and writing that review..  :'(
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Didero on December 11, 2007, 11:25:27 am
Did you win the 'Name that Game'-contest, or the 'Worst game you completely finished'-contest? I'm confused...
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Xenomorph on December 11, 2007, 11:41:18 am
Did you win the 'Name that Game'-contest, or the 'Worst game you completely finished'-contest? I'm confused...

dont panic, its the last one.

me? winning the name that game contest? I WISH! ;)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on December 11, 2007, 09:03:05 pm
Gratz Xeno
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Celdur on December 13, 2007, 03:06:54 am
world of....south park?i really dont get the picture...did steve mean to put a picture from the wow episode?
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Cobra on December 13, 2007, 03:31:58 am
I suspect more of a red herring.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Daxx on December 13, 2007, 06:50:47 am
world of....south park?i really dont get the picture...did steve mean to put a picture from the wow episode?

What's more bizarre is that that picture isn't from the WoW episode, it's from Fun With Weapons.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Celdur on December 13, 2007, 03:57:25 pm
i know daxx...but i mean that maybe he made a mistake or something
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Daxx on December 13, 2007, 07:45:47 pm
Indeed.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Celdur on December 15, 2007, 04:15:23 am
the image name is this: http://www.gamingsteve.com/images/WoW_south-park.jpg

now I'm sure! steve is merely a human  ;D
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on December 22, 2007, 08:23:16 am
i know daxx...but i mean that maybe he made a mistake or something

Actually that was to show what the "next" game was supposed to look like. I was going to use the WOW-related South Park image, but I just used it in a prior post and I thought it this image was funnier.

The image is actually a homage to those Japanese animated cartoons and what the guys from South Park would look like if they were drawn in that style.

Not a "mistake", just a choice to go a different way! ;D
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Tesla on December 22, 2007, 10:10:19 am
Oh yeah, Steve, we all believe you...

*Cough* ;)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Celdur on December 28, 2007, 11:44:56 am
new update  ;D that was fun...

although i think steve replaced 'gravity gun' with 'portal gun' >_>
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 28, 2007, 02:45:45 pm
Moar Update!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on December 31, 2007, 01:24:23 pm
There's three updates on the main page today, all by our new writer, Diggler.

Three in a day is a little more than I can handle but hey, an update is an update is an update.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on December 31, 2007, 01:35:29 pm
His taste is interesting.

Will he spend any time in our forums?
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on December 31, 2007, 01:36:05 pm
Dunno.

I already searched for his handle but couldn't find anyone. Hopefully he shows up soon.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on December 31, 2007, 02:05:24 pm
His taste is interesting.

Yes, it is! But I believe his tastes are fairly similar to mine, but yet different enough so that you will always get a consistent "voice" for the site. Plus it's always fun to have a "British" point of view from the world of gaming.

He will probably be on the site. How much he posts I am unsure as that is up to him. But leave your comments and welcome him!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on December 31, 2007, 02:14:34 pm
His taste is interesting.

Yes, it is! But I believe his tastes are fairly similar to mine, but yet different enough so that you will always get a consistent "voice" for the site.

I believe it was Wrigley who said:
Quote
When two men in business always agree, one of them is unnecessary.

I'm look forward to hear more from you, Diggler.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on December 31, 2007, 02:17:33 pm
Welcome Diggler, look forward to seeing your updates. Hope you join the forum soon and share in the community fun.  :)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Matt Robinson on December 31, 2007, 05:19:39 pm
Hi guys, thanks for the warm welcome. I've been lurking around here for a while now  8)


Happy new year from me and my fellow Brits - speaking to you from the future.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 31, 2007, 05:49:53 pm
Hi guys, thanks for the warm welcome. I've been lurking around here for a while now  8)


Happy new year from me and my fellow Brits - speaking to you from the future.

Hi.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on December 31, 2007, 10:31:40 pm
You signed up promptly and responded! Good man, glad to have you aboard.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: gec05 on December 31, 2007, 10:44:37 pm
Hey Steve, give this guy a special rank. Maybe site writers could have a leaf or feather powerup icons.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Cobra on January 01, 2008, 12:55:40 am
Hi guys, thanks for the warm welcome. I've been lurking around here for a while now  8)


Happy new year from me and my fellow Brits - speaking to you from the future.

Damn I was so hoping to sign up as Diggler to start messing with people. In all seriousness welcome to the site can't wait to hear more.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Daxx on January 01, 2008, 05:09:44 am
Hi, nice to meet you. :)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on January 01, 2008, 05:48:17 am
Hey Steve, give this guy a special rank. Maybe site writers could have a leaf or feather powerup icons.

Hum, good idea. I have about a million things to do on the site but I'll get to that one.

Soon there will be so many "special" icons that people won't be able to tell what is what anymore...
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on January 01, 2008, 07:46:16 am
The feather sounds good... because it's a Mario power up and  it's also what people used to write with!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on January 01, 2008, 08:38:09 pm
Hi guys, thanks for the warm welcome. I've been lurking around here for a while now  8)

and I was searching all over hell and creation for the name "Diggler" in the memberlist.

As with all new members, I strongly suggest the "Babylon" forum theme. Easier on the eyes.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: gec05 on January 02, 2008, 01:36:16 pm
Hey Goombas! :D

An unexpected but nice choice of icons Steve.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Luminar on January 02, 2008, 01:38:51 pm
Huh. To think I thought about doing some Goombas to add to the icon list then thought "Nah, it's not an item". Having said that, neither is a metroid... ah, my contradictory train of thought, where did you go so wrong? =|
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on January 02, 2008, 01:45:23 pm
Yeah, but everybody loves Metroids.

They are the life suckers of love.

(http://www.411mania.com/game_article_pictures/407.jpg)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on January 02, 2008, 03:35:04 pm
Hit the front page people.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Luminar on January 02, 2008, 03:39:34 pm
Useful... I could use that to make more icons, even if I have quite a few mario items covered at this point.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on January 02, 2008, 07:06:00 pm
Hey! Goombas! :D

I thought Matt was the only with Goombas so far. But with SoulVision posting in a thread, just flaunting those Goombas...  :P

I decided to look up the people with the "Contributor" rank.

Matt Robinson (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?action=profile;u=3280)
SoulVision (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?action=profile;u=1514)
Pfellah (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?action=profile;u=6)
Rax Dakkar (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?action=profile;u=3144)
rpgchuck (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?action=profile;u=3279)

Would you care to explain, Steve, how the others are contributors? Or they can do it themselves if they are on.

Just like to get to know them.  :)

Edit: For typos.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on January 02, 2008, 07:08:13 pm
I was just going to ask who the contributors were too but I guess Met found them all. I was surprised to see Goombas in a post by Soulvision.

Oh, I remember pfellah, he's been here a long time, when the forum first started.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: SoulVision on January 02, 2008, 08:13:46 pm
Indeed.  Glad you remember me LadyM!

Look forward to contributing some pretty exciting information for you guys soon.  Hope you enjoy!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on January 02, 2008, 08:23:46 pm
Indeed.  Glad you remember me LadyM!

Do you mean that you are 'Pfellah'?
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: SoulVision on January 02, 2008, 08:50:47 pm
Naw, I posted around on the boards a while back for a bit.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on January 02, 2008, 08:52:38 pm
So what do you write?
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Cobra on January 03, 2008, 02:21:59 am
How come they all get to start with 5 Goombas? shouldn't they have to work up to get them all?
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on January 03, 2008, 10:17:52 am
How come they all get to start with 5 Goombas? shouldn't they have to work up to get them all?

By your logic, Moderators should work their way through all 5 "cloud" things.

Don't remember their exact name...
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on January 03, 2008, 10:29:07 am
How come they all get to start with 5 Goombas? shouldn't they have to work up to get them all?

Those can't work on the "count" system. So I have to hardcode them in and the number. Otherwise I would do that...
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on January 03, 2008, 11:57:27 am
Another barrage of posts on the front page.

I'll read the first two, someone else read the next two, and another person read the next. We'll meet up and report our findings.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Tesla on January 03, 2008, 12:29:40 pm
A lot of new writers today! This is awesome!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on January 07, 2008, 10:07:06 pm
Bam, got an update.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gaming Steve on January 08, 2008, 07:03:36 am
Yes, lots of updates.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: LadyM on January 08, 2008, 10:35:31 am
Another writer!
Robbway (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?action=profile;u=2084) Welcome !!
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on January 08, 2008, 10:44:30 am
Very cool.  I know Robbway from another site.  He's a good guy.  We can expect some great articles from him.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on January 08, 2008, 05:57:43 pm
Concerning the latest headline Xbox Live Class Action Lawsuit Worth Pennies, Not Millions.

I think the latest CTRL-ALT-DEL comic sums it up quite well. Probably should google it since I can't post any links.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Oviraptor on January 08, 2008, 06:03:08 pm
You can't post that on the forum, not even using NSFW warnings.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: gec05 on January 08, 2008, 06:04:44 pm
Yes please. I can no longer access Gaming Steve from school computers due to it linking to malicious sites.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Met on January 08, 2008, 06:09:25 pm
Yes please. I can no longer access Gaming Steve from school computers due to it linking to malicious sites.

Well... I don't think we can consider Ctrl-Alt-Del Comics as a "malicious" site.

But I see your point.... though I swore I saw this earlier unchecked. Not SLT's that is either. But no matter. Apologies.

I made the comic safe for forums by replacing all naughty words with an adorable bunny.

When you see a bunny, just read it as "bunny".  :P

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/OmegaMet/Whatthebunny.jpg)
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Luminar on January 08, 2008, 06:10:42 pm
Well... I don't think we can consider Ctrl-Alt-Del Comics as a "malicious" site.

I can, maliciously self-absorbed and unfunny. It's like Tim Buckley wants to kill me with the sheer crushing force of his massive ego.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Aybraus on January 08, 2008, 08:58:57 pm
Yes please. I can no longer access Gaming Steve from school computers due to it linking to malicious sites.
I can no longer access Gaming Steve from school computers just because the people in charge of it are *******s.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: gec05 on January 08, 2008, 09:55:50 pm
Nice one Met. It's even funnier when it's censored. :D
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Mr. Wizard on January 09, 2008, 04:13:52 pm
Hey I noticed you used a "out of ten" ranking in the review. Would you be averse to using a ranking system that functions more as a summary of a review than a completely arbitrary rank?

Code: [Select]
The CGSI scale


9999 Scale
CGSI

Competetiveness: How well the game measures against others of its genre.
0- Derivative, unimaginative 
5- A solid addition to the genre, has most everything that came before, and does them well
9- Groundbreaking, redefines the genre
10-Created a new genre, if a game does, all other values are zero, as 10000 is the highest score.

Gameplay       : The quality of the mechanics, level design, difficulty.
0- Poor mechanics, overly difficult, cluttered and unintelligible levels
5- Smooth mechanics, rarely frustrating, nice understandable levels
9- Innovative and fun mechanics, can have fun while losing, levels crystal clear


Story          : The Quality of the Story.
0- pretentious piss, derivative dung, unimaginative urine; or just not existing.
5- Slightly cliche, but otherwise solid, entertaining, and not distracting
9- Would make great authors of history jealous. Comparable to Shakespeare if your into that.


Interface      : The smoothness and quality of control for the player.
0- Barely got needed info, cluttered, Graphics not communicating correct or useful information.
5- Necessary Info clear, needed info only displayed when needed, Graphics represent world well.
9- Info is at your finger tips, highly efficient, and graphics both clear and effective.

Benchmarks:

Half-Life        8866/10000
Half-Life2       8989/10000
Tabula Rasa      7665/10000
X3: Reunion      5542/10000
Oblivion         7766/10000
Mount&Blade      8857/10000
Morrowind        8657/10000
Sim City        10000/10000
Rogue           10000/10000
Golden Dolphin     12/10000
Civilization     8805/10000

Like that scaling system? (Which I had a hand in developing. :P) Basically each aspect is weighted a little more, with Competetiveness (a measurement of how well it stacks up to other games of its genre) in the "thousand's" range; counting more than its interface quality, which is in the "one's" range.

Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Danzik on January 09, 2008, 05:16:41 pm
What is this Golden Dolphin; I must play this.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: ilikesanta on January 10, 2008, 12:40:56 am
I like the idea of a school grade rating like A, B, C, D, and F. Because once a score goes under a 6, 60 or 600 it might as well have a 'don't buy me sticker' on it. Maybe have +'s but no -'s. Boo -'s.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Gauphastus on January 10, 2008, 01:16:18 am
I say toss all these scores and grades and ratings altogether.
What's more important to me is an interesting, well-written, critical article that goes over each area that composes the game. Things like story, character development, and emotional impact.
And then go over more technical things like gameplay, audio, and graphics.
Pros and cons are fun, but not that important.

I'm more into reading reviews of games I've already played, however. So I tend to dislike the ones that are simply attempting to sell the game to me, or warn me away from it. I decide that entirely on my own, usually by locating player-made gameplay videos.
I don't merely want to hear someone else justify my purchase of a game.
It's more about understanding why the game and its many bits and pieces are either valuable or worthless, to the game itself, and to others in the genre.

I realize everyone enjoys writing the way they do, and by all means, continue.
Thems just a few things that make a review interesting to me, as a reader.
All for your information.


Of course there is a whole bunch of other stuff in my head that makes me decide a review is good, but I won't bother getting into all that. I'm sure I've blathered on enough for now.  :P
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 08:18:46 pm
There's another review up.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Rax Dakkar on January 11, 2008, 09:47:18 pm
Hello Gaming steve forum members.  I thought I should introduce myself here, being that your discussing the front page postings.  Hope to learn more about all your gaming interests as you learn about mine.
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Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 09:49:16 pm
Hey! Glad to see you in the forums!

Don't be a stranger, please come in and enjoy the rest of the forum. :)
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Post by: Met on January 14, 2008, 07:44:14 pm
Hey guys, just because we get updates more frequently, doesn't mean we should take them for granted. Shall we discuss the latest update?

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/OmegaMet/gizoogle1.jpg)
This image may or may not have been altered by Gizoogle (http://www.gizoogle.com/).
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Post by: PatMan33 on January 14, 2008, 07:46:26 pm
Well it's nice that someone other than myself knows about Crayon Physics.
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Post by: LadyM on January 15, 2008, 05:17:38 am
I think he wants us to notice that the words were changed by Gizoogle.

Trackmania... fun game !! I even made my own tracks.
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Post by: Celdur on January 15, 2008, 05:22:39 am
yeah i knew about 1 ups list...didnt know 2008 was already here

abstractiaca is very fun
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Post by: Met on January 15, 2008, 07:09:56 am
I think he wants us to notice that the words were changed by Gizoogle.

Aye, but I rather like Crayon Physics as well.
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Post by: Celdur on January 15, 2008, 07:37:53 am
well i dont...i mean the real version would be cool...but drawing squares isnt really much
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Post by: Rax Dakkar on January 15, 2008, 03:32:32 pm
For a second their I thought I wrote that post drunk or something.  Forgot about that gizoogle thing.




Also, I've been trying out more of those games.  Tactics 100 is a great browser based turnbased tactics strategy game, with multiplayer.  All of Battlezoo's games (makers of Echoes) are really worth trying.  Duotris is a great puzzle idea, Mono is beautiful to look at, in fact all of their games are really slickly designed, definetly check them out.  All of Battlezoo's games also work really well with an Xbox 360 controller.  Claustrophere would have benifitted from a stationary targeting reticle, but it's still pretty cool.  Protoganda is a classic Raiden or Gradius shooter with a really intersting style going for it. 

I'm going to try Minerva (mod for HL2) and Synaesthete next.
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Post by: Gaming Steve on January 15, 2008, 06:26:28 pm
For a second their I thought I wrote that post drunk or something.

Please don't tell me that!
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Post by: PatMan33 on January 15, 2008, 06:50:23 pm
I've been trying to push Minerva on this forum for over a year now... never really got any feedback from people. It's the best mod out there though, I'd venture far enough to say that it is better than Half-Life 2 even, it's that  good. You will love it.
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Post by: Hizzah on January 15, 2008, 06:55:39 pm
I think most people are gonna discuss the site updates in the comments sections...
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Post by: Rax Dakkar on January 15, 2008, 08:22:19 pm
For a second their I thought I wrote that post drunk or something.

Please don't tell me that!


Of course I was just kidding their.  That gizoogle thing caught me off guard, but it is definetly funny.
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Post by: Met on January 22, 2008, 07:20:33 am
Ah Steve, when you mentioned a Tetris movie, this immediately came back to mind.

http://onering.legendaryfrog.com/movies_or3_w.php

When it goes to the menu, hit trailers and watch the "Deleted Movie Trailer"

Also the "One Ring 3" teaser is pretty funny too.
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Post by: PatMan33 on February 15, 2008, 04:39:35 pm
HEY! Another podcast is up!
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Post by: PatMan33 on February 18, 2008, 08:21:30 pm
Yo, got a couple more updates for you all to look at. Steve's GDC itinerary is up.
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Post by: LadyM on February 19, 2008, 01:30:44 pm
I guess we'll have alot of podcasts coming up, probably starting tonight or tomorrow.  :)
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Post by: PatMan33 on February 19, 2008, 01:32:22 pm
That should be nice! I love it when we get into this mode, the events like GDC and E3 are always fun!
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Post by: LadyM on February 20, 2008, 06:41:01 pm
Lots and lots of news... Steve has been live blogging from the Spore meetings. Did anyone catch this?

Quote
2:46 – Got yelled at that I couldn’t film the talk, nice.

Steve got in trouble.  :o
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Post by: PatMan33 on February 21, 2008, 01:21:10 am
The videos are UP!

Go take a gander!
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Post by: Brandonazz on February 21, 2008, 01:25:13 pm
And a goose while you're at it.

I'm so glad they took Eno onto their team.
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Post by: PatMan33 on February 24, 2008, 08:47:54 pm
NEW PODCAST!

HIT IT!
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Post by: Oviraptor on March 03, 2008, 03:45:37 pm
What's going on? ??? There hasn't been any updates for a few days.
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Post by: Gungnir on March 03, 2008, 04:01:00 pm
I was starting to wonder that, but I'm sure Steve has a perfectly good reason even if he decides not to disclose the specifics of it. We'll probably get a podcast or at least an update when SSB:B is released...
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Post by: gec05 on March 03, 2008, 05:08:44 pm
I never heard Steve talk much about Smash Bros or if he is even interested in it. No doubt, the writers may post an article or review on it.

But yeah, I'm getting fed up seeing that Wipeout screenie.
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Post by: Oviraptor on March 03, 2008, 05:10:28 pm
Heh, it's still nothing compared to when it was that Maplestory article. :P
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Post by: homez99 on March 03, 2008, 05:49:55 pm
Sorry for lack of updates on my end guys, I've been away at home celebrating my nan's 60th birthday, and thus haven't had much time to write. Hopefully tomorrow I can write my review of Professor Layton and the Curious Village on the DS and get that published, as well as cover any news stories that may crop up. Aside from that, does anyone have any recommendations of things they want me to look at? My rental copy of Burnout Paradise will arrive on Wednesday so I can do something on that, but I'm not sure if that's all old news these days. If anyone has any ideas for editorials or things they would like me to investigate or look into, I will take your ideas on board, alongside some other things I already have planned. Just don't expect any Smash Bros coverage from me for a while, I live in PAL land and I'm still waiting for the Wii Freeloader to be tested before I order it and a US copy of Smash.
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Post by: PatMan33 on March 03, 2008, 06:18:35 pm
Hmm, thank you for posting that! :)

+5 points for homez99
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Post by: ilikesanta on March 03, 2008, 06:20:19 pm
You could test free loader, and write about that :P
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Post by: homez99 on March 03, 2008, 06:27:01 pm
You could test free loader, and write about that :P

I would do, but my personal funds are looking quite strained recently, and I plan on purchasing Bully (360), Vegas 2, Mario Kart Wii, and GTA IV in the space of two months, so to waste money on an unproven product would be dangerous.
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Post by: gec05 on March 03, 2008, 07:14:14 pm
Well let's not burden you of such an undertaking. Overall, we just haven't seen any new stuff posted from anyone.
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Post by: PatMan33 on March 24, 2008, 08:46:22 pm
Got two updates by Mr. Ashley on the front page.
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Post by: Rax Dakkar on April 01, 2008, 10:40:12 am
Steve has been very busy of late, but I still enjoy writing about video game news, so until he returns I've created a little personal blog.  It can be found at:

http://raxdakkar.wordpress.com/ (http://raxdakkar.wordpress.com/)

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Post by: Danzik on April 01, 2008, 10:48:20 am
Steve has been very busy of late, but I still enjoy writing about video game news, so until he returns I've created a little personal blog.  It can be found at:

http://raxdakkar.wordpress.com/ (http://raxdakkar.wordpress.com/)


Hmm...Could be a rickroll
*Clicks anyway*
Nope, it's legit.
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Post by: Rax Dakkar on April 01, 2008, 08:08:52 pm
Oh man, I didn't realize I had such a good chance their...
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Post by: ilikesanta on April 02, 2008, 02:09:45 pm
three different stories by three different writters in one day!
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Post by: PatMan33 on April 02, 2008, 02:32:06 pm
Yeah honestly, could you guys maybe do something about posting so many stories on the same day? Does Steve have to actually post them or do you all happen to do this by accident? It's really annoying and I just end up ignoring some of them.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Rax Dakkar on April 11, 2008, 11:52:23 pm
Steve was very busy for a while, then managed to get a couple posts we had sent in on the site, and know he seems very busy again.  I've put up what posts I've sent to him on my blog in the interim.  I imagine he'll be back soon.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: PatMan33 on April 22, 2008, 02:27:39 pm
There is a new review up.

Go check it out, there are spoilers though so watch out.
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Post by: Cobra on April 22, 2008, 07:42:47 pm
Not too much you have to worry about when it comes to Mario Kart spoilers just characters and tracks which too me is a selling point fo the game. It's not like they are giving away Snap Killed Dumbledore, still if you want to find out unlockables and stuff for your self becareful.

Still good write up and may actually make me get them game in the end I have been wondering if it is worth getting seeing the DS version is so good I wasn't sure if this would offer anything new still seems worth the price of admission.
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Post by: Gauphastus on April 22, 2008, 08:31:21 pm
I still say the score at the end is unnecessary, but whatever.
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Post by: PatMan33 on April 24, 2008, 06:31:28 pm
Hit the front, another update.

And since Steve is around to approve stuff there could be more.
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Post by: Gauphastus on April 24, 2008, 08:20:08 pm
That is so damn cool.

Nice stuff, Spore team.
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Post by: ilikesanta on April 24, 2008, 09:36:12 pm
That was a sweet update that Steve put up.
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Post by: Brandonazz on April 25, 2008, 11:55:20 am
That's the sort of thing that makes me happy to be part of this community.

Great stuff.
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Post by: Ultimatum on April 25, 2008, 11:57:32 am
Cool update :)

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Post by: LadyM on April 25, 2008, 11:58:32 am
Me too. I think our community remains a big part of Spore development ideas. :)
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Post by: ilikesanta on April 28, 2008, 06:54:45 pm
Front page got updated by Steve again. In this exciting update, Steve asks: Anyone not buying GTA IV?
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Post by: PatMan33 on May 09, 2008, 12:36:27 pm
Steve has updated the front page, go check it out! It's about Spore!
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Post by: Plank of Wood on May 09, 2008, 01:53:18 pm
It took hell and beyond, but we finaly made him update  ;)

You heard Caryl, get back to your creature concepts, you have nothing to see here.

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Post by: PatMan33 on May 19, 2008, 09:53:24 pm
Ahoy! Got another update for you!
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Post by: Cobra on May 19, 2008, 11:25:31 pm
I noticed and a quick 2 cents I'll join the if you don't show your games at e3 you don't get to enter side of the fence. If developers don't like not being in the comp then all they have to do is set up a booth at e3.
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Post by: PatMan33 on May 21, 2008, 10:03:13 am
There's a lovely review up on the front page for your viewing pleasure.
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 21, 2008, 10:13:38 am
Just a qeastion;when is the next podcast?
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Post by: PatMan33 on May 21, 2008, 10:24:22 am
Don't ask... then you won't be as disappointed when it doesn't appear on the front page. :-[
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 21, 2008, 10:26:15 am
Oh and whats happened to the contributers?
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Post by: Mr. Consideration on May 21, 2008, 11:48:27 am
Interesting article..

But how does Dungeons and Dragons have online play?
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Post by: Gaming Steve on May 21, 2008, 12:06:57 pm
Interesting article..

But how does Dungeons and Dragons have online play?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aLXuMb6WWw
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 21, 2008, 12:11:41 pm
Hahha thats brilliant!
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Post by: Gungnir on May 21, 2008, 01:04:47 pm
Interesting article..

But how does Dungeons and Dragons have online play?
*awesomeness*

Damn...that is seriously cool! But given how much I play DnD, I dunno if I actually wanna pay for that. Then again, the reason I play DnD so little is because almost no one in my area even knows what it is, those that do ridicule it.
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Post by: Celdur on May 21, 2008, 02:31:20 pm
hey...people have online dnd matches already...people like me...gamingsteve has quite a few campains going yknow?
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Post by: Gungnir on May 21, 2008, 02:41:03 pm
Well, I know. But with (3D) digital dungeon maps, voice chat, built in die-rollers, and customizable-posable-digital-mini's? I dunno about that.


And as for GS campaigns..maybe in the summer, once I have a bit more time. That's 2 weeks or so.
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Post by: PatMan33 on June 24, 2008, 09:11:22 am
Greetings dudes and dudettes, the front page has been updated and some of you are going to freaking love it!
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Post by: gec05 on June 24, 2008, 09:14:56 am
About time.

Now we nees' a podcast.
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Post by: Gungnir on June 24, 2008, 12:26:38 pm
Yeah. Wow, 'bout time. Unfortunately I never played any diablo games.

And yeah, a podcast would be kinda nice.
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Post by: Ghidoran on August 31, 2008, 05:26:39 pm
is very outdated.
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Post by: LadyM on August 31, 2008, 05:29:51 pm
We know that.
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Post by: Ghidoran on September 01, 2008, 07:20:33 am
We know that.

Heh, well atleast the forums are good.
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Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 02, 2008, 08:35:39 pm
We know that.

Heh, well atleast the forums are good.

Here here!

*Raises mead stein*
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Post by: Daxx on September 04, 2008, 07:16:00 am
Where, where?

We know that.

Heh, well atleast the forums are good.

Hear hear!
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Post by: Brandonazz on September 06, 2008, 07:04:39 pm
Where, where?

...

Hear hear!

(http://www.extrememortman.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/Rim Shot Johnny Utah.jpg)
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Post by: PatMan33 on April 08, 2009, 05:12:53 am
Front page updated! (http://www.gamingsteve.com/archives/2009/04/not-dead-yet-follow-me-on-twitter.php)

Try to guess what it's about... come on, just one guess! :D
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Post by: Oviraptor on May 31, 2009, 09:05:27 pm
Check out the front page now!
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Post by: PatMan33 on May 31, 2009, 09:06:34 pm
Four years of clicking in (nearly) the same place every day... this is gonna take forever to get used to. :P
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Post by: Oviraptor on May 31, 2009, 09:07:28 pm
I know, now I have to scroll. :P
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Post by: gec05 on May 31, 2009, 09:09:46 pm
I always bookmark directly to the forum index. Now I have to put another for the new widget he added.
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Post by: Sub on June 02, 2009, 10:07:24 pm
I'm not a fan.  If we want to follow you on twitter, we'll click the twitter link, we don't need the huge block there that forces us to scroll down for the forum.
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Post by: Gauphastus on June 02, 2009, 10:25:57 pm
I think it's just temporary for E3 anyway.
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Post by: LadyM on June 03, 2009, 10:02:32 am
I'm not a fan.  If we want to follow you on twitter, we'll click the twitter link, we don't need the huge block there that forces us to scroll down for the forum.
The purpose for that is so people can read updates who don't follow twitter. Many people still read the front page. If you want to go directly to the forum, you can bookmark the forum url. That's how I usually do it.
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Post by: martyk on June 03, 2009, 10:28:03 am
Or, if you're super cool like me, homepage it.
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Post by: Didero on June 03, 2009, 11:10:22 am
I just leave the tab open. Since Firefox can remember sessions, I always have the GamingSteve tab. :)
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Post by: Tesla on June 03, 2009, 01:18:11 pm
Or, if you're super cool like me, homepage it.

Me too.
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Post by: Gunner on June 03, 2009, 03:49:01 pm
Or, if you're super cool like me, homepage it.

Me too.
I have the HOI3 dev-Twitter as my homepage.
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Post by: Sub on June 04, 2009, 04:09:37 am
I'm not a fan.  If we want to follow you on twitter, we'll click the twitter link, we don't need the huge block there that forces us to scroll down for the forum.
The purpose for that is so people can read updates who don't follow twitter. Many people still read the front page. If you want to go directly to the forum, you can bookmark the forum url. That's how I usually do it.

How does that make any sense?  If I'm not following him on twitter, it's because I don't want to follow him on twitter.  Twitter is a largely useless fad.
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Post by: LadyM on June 04, 2009, 07:08:17 am
It makes sense because if you want gaming updates or information from Steve then he is doing it through twitter now. If you don't use twitter, you can read it on the front page. If you don't want to read those updates then change your opening link and bypass it.
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Post by: gec05 on June 04, 2009, 08:06:29 am
Plus you sound really silly right now. :P
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Post by: Sub on June 04, 2009, 09:54:05 am
I still maintain that if we wanted to follow him on twitter, we would, you know, follow him on twitter.  I don't even care that it's on the front page, I care where it is on the front page.  It should be in a news post or on the right hand side of the page or below the forum link.  Forcing us to either scroll down and deal with it or change our opening link sucks.  You can argue that I'm being an ******* right now, but you really can't argue that it's not in a bad spot.  Whatever, I guess. 
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Post by: gec05 on June 04, 2009, 11:09:45 am
All you need to do is bookmark the forum page, not the front page. The forum has a link back to the front page at the top. No scrolling required.
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Post by: PatMan33 on June 04, 2009, 11:52:43 am
I think Sub's point is that he likes to go through the front page so that he can see if there are any updates and that Twitter is made it slightly more time consuming to get through. It's only an extra second or two though.
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Post by: LadyM on June 04, 2009, 03:06:54 pm
You can argue that I'm being an ******* right now 
I'll agree with this one. It's not that big a deal. I thought it was a good thing myself. A few extra secs aren't that big a deal.
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Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on June 05, 2009, 04:35:53 pm
You can argue that I'm being an ******* right now

Not gonna lie, it doesn't take a whole lot of arguing.

Personally I've always had the forums bookmarked. I never go to the homepage.
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Post by: Didero on June 06, 2009, 12:53:24 am
I only go to the front page if this topic has a new post :P
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Post by: Kenobro on June 27, 2009, 12:45:26 pm
I don't get why people care so much that they have to scroll.


If you want to go to the forum just bookmark the forum.  If you want to look at the front page go to the frontpage.

That's what I do.  Leave the forum open and if I want to the gaming Steve homepage I click the button that says Back to the Gaming Steve homepage.
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Post by: Gauphastus on June 27, 2009, 02:21:08 pm
That whole thing was pretty much resolved three weeks ago.
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Post by: Cobra on June 27, 2009, 07:34:35 pm
Who has the slowpoke image they can post.
Title: Re: Front page updated!
Post by: Skyward on June 27, 2009, 09:20:22 pm
Here you go Cobra:
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm225/SkywardDescent/slowpoke.gif)