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Everything Else / Re: How old are you?
« on: May 07, 2007, 04:40:34 am »
I'm 14 too.

Is it just me, or do we have a disproportional amount of younger members on this board?  ???

Possibly it's a mix of the target demographic for Spore and the youngsters being more likely to be impatient for the game.

Yes it's steamy breath. They're stuck in a freezer because there's no doorknob on the inside. It's one of those cheesy flashback episodes where they're passing the time by remembering things that happened in past episodes. It was funny because it was only their second episode so there was only one thing to flash back to.

[EDIT] After more consideration I recall that they're trying to use up more oxygen.

It's from the hilarious but short-lived pilot to the cartoon.

Just for those that care...

Everything Else / Re: Religion
« on: February 28, 2007, 03:12:42 am »
It may be accepted as truth by the scientific community but that does not actually make it so. In simple terms evolution is the choice of what they say is true because it makes the most sense regarding the origin of life. If they had as much evidence or it made more sense to them then god would be the truth to them. same can be said about aliens putting us here etc. Sorta like if i am a judge and i have 3 suspects in a murder case and one of the three has more evidence against him then the other. But thier are some major holes in the case so while it looks like he did it thiers a chance he diden't but as the other 2 have no evidence against them i decide this guy did it and throw him in prison.

The Theory of Evolution is so called because it has been scientifically proven before a scientific body of experts, otherwise it would be the hypothesis of evolution. They've got the gun and the fingerprints and a witness to the crime, it isn't guesswork anymore.
Galileo's proof that Venus was orbiting the sun did not provide 100% evidence that the heliocentric model was correct but it provided all the evidence so that anyone who would look at it with an open mind could see the truth. The church changed it's stance on this issue because more and more astronomers came to the same conclusion as Galileo and there wasn't any point in denying it any longer.

Geez i could simply say the majority of the church commuity accepts the existence of god as fact so its true. But how well would atheists take that?

No, the difference here is that your proof came from the belief of people who are experts in the christian faith, the Theory of Evolution was scientificly proven to a body of impartial experts. The simily would work better if an impartial board of Theologists all came together and agreed that your god exists.

In regards to homosexuality you seem to be saying that you cant compare us to the animals because we are so unique from them, that they dont really know what they're doing, but what about love? We dont have any conscious control over love just as the animals appear to make no conscious decision about engaging in a homosexual act. Why cant we find the qualities we most admire in someone of the same sex? When I'm listing off the qualities I most require in a partner their genitalia doesn't come into it until somewhere on the second page. You dont choose who you love, you just do. If you follow this line of thinking through to the end, why then can you not lust after someone for the same reasons?

Finally, I was reading through some history on Pope John Paul II and I know you're not Catholic but perhaps you can tell me if the Pope's beliefs have any baring on your own?

Quote from: wikipedia
John Paul II also wrote to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on the subject of cosmology and how to interpret Genesis:
    "Cosmogony and cosmology have always aroused great interest among peoples and religions. The Bible itself speaks to us of the origin of the universe and its make-up, not in order to provide us with a scientific treatise, but in order to state the correct relationships of man with God and with the universe. Sacred Scripture wishes simply to declare that the world was created by God, and in order to teach this truth it expresses itself in the terms of the cosmology in use at the time of the writer. The Sacred Book likewise wishes to tell men that the world was not created as the seat of the gods, as was taught by other cosmogonies and cosmologies, but was rather created for the service of man and the glory of God. Any other teaching about the origin and make-up of the universe is alien to the intentions of the Bible, which does not wish to teach how heaven was made but how one goes to heaven." (Pope John Paul II, October 3, 1981 to the Pontifical Academy of Science, "Cosmology and Fundamental Physics")

What is it that makes you believe the book of genesis should be taken literally? What is it that makes your belief differ from his? Understand that I can appreciate that you wouldn't just believe something because someone else said so and I commend you for making up your own mind about the issue but I was just curious to know what about that chapter rings true to you rather than just a metaphor or a fable .

Portable Games / Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
« on: February 27, 2007, 10:17:11 pm »
also, all the new pokemon are ugly. All of them. They used to be cute now they're just freaks.

Everything Else / Re: Religion
« on: February 27, 2007, 10:03:11 pm »
I'd just like to take this opportunity to back KS up on that point. A theory in science is a proved hypothesis. The reason Evolution is allowed to be a theory is because it is recognised by the scientific community (for better or worse and regardless of my personal oppinion) as scientific truth. A theorem in maths is a proposed idea that is proved but the proof is based on assumptions.

The argument that the "Theory of evolution" should be treated as just a 'theory' in the sense that it is just a hypothesis is incorrect because it has already been accepted as truth by the powers that be in the scientific community.

There was a time when galileo was severely punished for claiming the earth was not the center of the universe, now that is a known fact. Sooner or later the church (all churches) will have to recognise that the majority of the scientific community has accepted evolution as truth, just as the church eventually came to concede that everyone but them believed Galileo had it right and stopped flogging people for saying it.

Everything Else / Re: Religion
« on: February 22, 2007, 03:22:20 am »
I dont see how this thread was so horrible before Daxx necro-ed it...Syphonbyte made some fair points on the side of christianity as did others. I can understand if you didn't want to be 'The enemy' in any such debate about christianity but that isn't what we were trying to do. If you follow that debate and even this one people debate both sides of the issue because it isn't about what's right or wrong, its about what you think.

I'm not atheist, I'm not christian, I'm not pagan or buddhist or any other religion you like because I dont think limiting yourself to a category of religion is productive in finding the final answer. You believe in one god, well there's plenty of religions that do that too and they aren't so different from yours except in the fine print. In most religions now and in any time in history you'll find the same basic principles which govern the 10 commandments. What makes christian beliefs more right than Jewish or Islamic beliefs? The answer is nothing because in the end it all comes down to interpretation anyway. Be a decent person, dont steal or cheat or lie or kill people needlessly...if you follow these basic principles what need is there for God - any god - to have any reason to hate you or to punish you for all eternity?

And for a bit of tongue in cheek. If i am wrong and i die i just die. If your wrong and you die you burn in hell  ::)

I know you were joking here but this is how religion is perceived these days. Pick the right one as you would pick the right racehorse and hope to see it across the finish line first but to me they're all just facets of the same deity. If I never kneel before your god but make the world a better place then why would he judge me poorly? Does he not love me as I'm told?

Do you know whats seprates christans god from other religions? The fact we have a relationship with god. I never bring this up because i cant make you see, hear, and feel what i do. But god talks to you. I could be lieing or crazy but then all christians are lieing or crazy

What makes you so sure that my god doesn't talk to me? You speak of what you dont know just like you claimed that KS was doing.

Things i meant were blasphemy were crap like we don't believe in doctors because prayer heals people..wheres your education? Your speaking of things when you know nothing about them

This is what most of us beileve. God cannot just throw huge logic defying miracules around..if he did his existence would be obvious destroying the point of our freewill. Were supposed to come to god on our own. Why? Because is it real love when your forced? Now god does do those miracules sometimes..but rarely noticed but heres the big one. God often works through us be it doctors or an everyday mailman. Some actions are your own some are with his help.
Be it being in the right place at the right time. Or something more spectaular. I find it amuseing that some sciencetists can believe in things such as telekinsis. Ghosts. Aliens. Premonitions. But the thought of god is absurd and yes some actually research those said things. Whether you do or not is not revelant

Throughout this section of your post you speak as if you are representative of the majority of the Christian body but I dont really think this is entirely accurate is it? After all you seem to be a creationist (please forgive me if I've misinterpreted) and yet this seems to be only a minority of the worldwide Christian religion despite its popularity in the US. Again, this information is just what I've found on the web so please correct me if I'm wrong. I've known Christian families that haven't taken their sick children to the doctors or immunised their children on religious grounds so dont claim that Christians just dont do it although I will accept that it's a minority of christians.

Please remember these are questions and not attacks on you personally. I just want to know a bit more about what makes you think the way you do.

Sorry to nitpick, but the harvestman wasn't actually the spider I was talking about

Quote from: Wikipedia, the source of all knowledge!
Confusion often arises because the name "daddy longlegs" is also applied to two other unrelated arthropods: the harvestman and the crane fly.

Unfortunately after a bit more research I discovered that the real daddy longlegs isn't actually that poisonous either, thankyou myth busters.

It still will take care of your spider problem though

Quote from: Wikipedia, the source of all knowledge!
Pholcus phalangioides has the habit of shaking its web violently when disturbed. This is probably to blur the vision of a predator. They can easily catch and eat hairy house spiders, mosquitoes, and other insects. When food is scarce, they will prey on their own kind.

sorry for the spider lesson, carry on!

Yes, daddy longlegs are spiders but they're as close as a spider can come to being 'nice.' They are one of the most deadly spiders in the world but fortunately they cant ever bite humans having short fangs and so they only use their poison on other spiders. They move very slowly and they like to live in webs in corners. It would be a nice ecological way to solve your spider problem but if it were me I would probably surface spray the doors, windows and cracks as well just to keep them out once the daddy longlegs kill off the hunters, then the daddy longlegs will just live off your flies and bugs instead of the spiders.

It does sound like a bit of an irrational fear if you shake after killing one though. There are a few techiniques you can try but one way to try to overcome the situation is to look at pictures of spiders and videos of spiders and monitoring your heartrate. Try to remain calm while watching the video, try to control your breathing and over time when you get the hang of that you can try it on real spiders.

and Patman, neoadept, there's no reason to fight - you can both be freaks.  :D

I wouldn't call it a phobia, I'd call it common sense. People who aren't afraid of spiders get bitten, people who get bitten (in australia) might die. You said they were hunters? I've never heard of a hunter but here we have a huntsman spiderwhich is highly aggressive if not particularly poisonous. The bite is very painful because the spider can grow to be larger than your hand particularly in areas with lots of food for them. If it's these spiders crawling around your room I cant blame you for being afraid, waking up to bites from these spiders would be very frightening. The best suggestion I can make is either to get some Daddy Longlegs spiders if they're in your area and put them in the corners of your room where they'll build a web (they dont move about) and eat your hunters coz they mostly eat other spiders but cant bite people because their fangs aren't long enough or you can get yourself some powerful surface spray and cover all your windows, cracks and doors with it.

Although I agree with you that your fear is not unfounded, finding some randoms on the internet to affirm your story isn't going to make things right with your dad. Explain to him why your afraid and maybe ask him to help you solve the problem of all the spiders in your room. Give him some suggestions of what you can do about it, then he will see you're afraid but trying to take responsibility for the problem by resolving the issue, yes?

Everything Else / Re: Is Gaming Steve in Prison?
« on: February 11, 2007, 01:51:02 pm »
Steve is alive and well. He has not forgotten about the forum, the site or the podcast. He doesn't have a place to record a podcast right now but that is being solved soon. Remember he said that in the last podcast? Well with a new baby, there is no where quiet in his apt. to do that. There will be more podcasts when he gets a place to record.

Have patience and faith, things will get back to normal.  :)

That's the third time I've read that message from you, LadyM. I think the real question is not whether or not Steve is in prison but whether or not LadyM is a bot. (DA DA DAAAAAA)

Everything Else / Re: Moral Dilema
« on: February 09, 2007, 02:41:59 pm »
Keep the gifts and reconsile. 10 years from now whatever harm they've done you will be unimportant, no longer being in contact with some good friends will be regretful.

Everything Else / Re: Magic: The Gathering
« on: February 07, 2007, 06:10:34 pm »
Anyone else play or played? Any advice for a newbie?

Well, though I hesitate to admit my true nerdiness, I was quite the magic buff back in the day. I can offer you a few pieces of advice if you're interested.

Building a deck: Did you say you're building a blue/red deck? I wasn't quite sure. In any case, pick a colour and stick with it. It's nice to have a deck full of all the best cards from all the colours but in a game you're rarely going to see more than 60 of them anyway and in many tournaments the deck is only allowed to be that big. So keep it small and keep it simple. The benefits of just choosing one colour are as follows:
If you're holding the most awesome green card in the world in your hand and so far the only land you've got infront of you is mountain then it's a useless card.
Coloured cards can often effect all players with a certain colour, if you also have that colour then you'll hurt yourself
There are often bonuses given to players with a one coloured deck such as the black deck having rats that can call out all the other rats in your deck, if you dont have other rats it's a useless card.

However, there is for certain colours an advantage in having two colours - one to support the other. This is most evident in black and white decks. Black decks will kill; it will kill you and everyone else around you. White decks give you life and protective shields, so if you have a powerful black spell it's nice to have a few life giving spells to support it or a shield to protect you. Green decks have oodles of creature cards and relatively few spells so it's better to support it with black, white who both have reasonably spell-oriented cards. Red Decks and Blue decks are usually all rounders and would make good first decks for a beginner.

Constructing the deck is where you win or lose and there's plenty of tournaments where each player is handed a brand new starter deck and a couple of booster packs and has to build a new 60 card deck to play with out of them. You need to keep enough land in there to ensure you have enough to cast with but if you put too much in you're going to pick up land every turn and never get any cards you can use. Try to avoid filling your deck with creature cards as spells often fly over the head of all of them anyway and also try to avoid spells or creatures that are only effective if a certain other card is in play because I guarantee you wont get it when you need it.

Strategy when actually playing the game depends on the player and I'm sure you're smart enough to work it out on your own but even a great strategy wont be available every game when you may not get the cards you need. Keep a few counter spells in your deck for those nasty spells that you want to avoid.

The best piece of advice I can give you is keep an eye out for rare cards (there are sites that will tell you what's rare) when you find one, go to a store that sells magic, the owner will be a collecter and he will want that card, it is better to go to a tournament with it though because there'll be lots of collectors there and they'll give you hundreds of common but useful cards for one really rare but probably useless card. The card I traded for over $200 worth of cards was a 2/2 creature valued at $60.

Spore: General / Re: Will Wright in Texas
« on: January 30, 2007, 05:20:09 pm »
Ah, I see how you could see my post as being aggressive if you were sensitive to the issue. Let me explain. When I said they never think to provide me with a map I was referring to movies based on civil wars or something like road trip I guess where distances travelled etc are important. You guys dont need a map to understand these significant landmarks but the movies are released here as well and I have often thought that a quick flash of a map on the screen would help understanding, even if it was only for non-american viewers, just as I would expect a movie made for worldwide viewing but set in the middle east to at least give me a point of reference. As a result I've needed to grasp at least a rough knowledge of states and cities in America to better understand the film. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

Spore: General / Re: Will Wright in Texas
« on: January 30, 2007, 04:38:10 pm »
Goddamn, calm down buddy...take deep breaths. All I was saying is we know the states so I doubt anyone woulda had trouble with the definition I was unaware at the time that the title had been changed though so there's no need to get yourself in a ruffle about your country, my only point was we've learned your states from your movies, ok?

Spore: General / Re: Will Wright in Texas
« on: January 30, 2007, 01:48:08 pm »
Speaking as a 'foreigner', The shortening of Texas to TX is not a huge jump, particularly when the subject of the thread is Will Wright in TEXAS.

Additionally, many foreigners know lots about the geography and the names of the American states because you keep spamming us with movies about your country and dont think to give us a map.

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