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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #315 on: May 06, 2011, 05:34:23 am »
Has anyone else ever wondered if the ocean is sentient?  The pressure differentials in that much water potentially offer vast amounts of computation power, and it's existed longer than life has.  Any emergent self perpetuating patterns in it would be enormously fragile as compared to coherent life, but are still theoretically possible.

*ponders the possibility of communicating with the ocean*
Our minds had to evolve to do what they do, there's no way a structure capable of generating a complex consciousness like that would just emerge out of ocean currents.

So now this comes down to a debate between free will and determinism.

As neo has already said, free will doesn't factor into the question of whether or not i exist.

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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #316 on: May 11, 2011, 10:02:52 pm »
Finally took the quiz.
Twas interesting.

Existentialism    
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Utilitarianism    
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Hedonism    
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Divine Command    
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Justice (Fairness)    
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Kantianism    
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Strong Egoism    
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Apathy    
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Nihilism    
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No way dude, you're trolling me.

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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #318 on: June 06, 2011, 05:36:54 pm »
I was split between functionalism and epiphenomenalism, eventually i went for the former.

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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #319 on: June 06, 2011, 05:38:23 pm »
I like functionalism and cognitivism.

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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #320 on: June 06, 2011, 05:41:38 pm »
I'm basically a reductionist. I don't remember what I put, but I know Functionalism and Cognitivism were two of them.

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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #321 on: June 06, 2011, 05:46:59 pm »
Oh, guys, remember you can pick 3.
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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #322 on: June 06, 2011, 05:51:32 pm »
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You're a Functionalistic Identity Theorizing Emergent Dualist

I chose the ones I most agreed with, but there were two or so I would have picked if more had to be chosen.

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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #323 on: June 06, 2011, 05:58:03 pm »
                                                                 You're a Functionalistic Identity Theorizing Higher Order Theorist



Sure, sounds about right.

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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #324 on: June 06, 2011, 06:23:22 pm »
Everyone is on pretty much the same level, so it seems.
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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #325 on: June 06, 2011, 10:54:51 pm »
Epiphenomenalistic Quantum Conscious Buddhist

This kinda just shows what our argument was from before (for those that participated).

I'm still really up in the air about this. I've read several religious texts on Buddhism which actually coincide with recent studies in the psychology of humans that actually suggest the mind has the ability to change the brain itself (see neuroplasticity). This essentially eliminates the possibility of any dualism being correct, simply because it is not a 'one-way' causation that psychologists and neurologists have believed to be true for the past one hundred years or so (basically, that the brain creates the mind, but that the mind has no effect on the brain).

The Mind and the Brain by Jeffrey Schwartz was a very interesting read (and where the place where I learned most of the stuff I know on this topic) and I recommend it to anyone that wishes to further pursue this area of study. One of the interesting points that it brought up was that for the past several decades, scientists and the like have been trying to describe the actions of the brain using Newtonian physics, when that simply doesn't work. Quantum theory, and further study in the area, is necessary before we can even start to comprehend the complex reactions that occur in the brain.

And yet I can't get over the fact that there is a very strong possibility that consciousness is just an evolutionary fluke that actually has no effect on the course of the universe. Sure, it's nice and all being able to think that we are conscious and that we can actually influence our actions, but the truth of the matter is, that whatever happens, will happen. There is no getting around that fact. And that's why I chose epiphenomenalism as well.

Alongside all of this sits the idea of Buddhism, which actually circles around back to my first choice. It was Schwartz's practice of Buddhism that led him down the track of actually challenging the psychological dogma that the brain created the mind. There is some truth behind Buddhist practices.

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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #326 on: June 07, 2011, 12:59:22 am »
Functionalist, Identity Theory, Emergent Dualism.
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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #327 on: June 07, 2011, 06:23:30 am »
I'm an Emergent Dualistic Higher Order Theorizing Buddhist.
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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #328 on: June 07, 2011, 06:36:28 am »
Quantum Conscious

Quantum doesn't mean "magic." I'm serious: Stop believing this.


PROTIP: When someone invokes "Quantum" to explain something happening in the human body it's safe to stop listening to them.
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Re: What's Philosophy Do You Follow? (Quiz)
« Reply #329 on: June 07, 2011, 06:58:18 am »
I'd also like to point out that the buddhist explination is completely at odds with modern physics, because it needs an entirely new set of physical prinicples to actually make sense.