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Heh.  You're most welcome.  ;D  It's funny that I originally learned about asymmetry from someone who posted a guide here on Gaming Steve - Thanren - though I don't know if this players goes by the same name here.

I'm now trying to figure out how to do asymmetric hands, feet, and limbs.  GrandPeep apparently got it to work with this creature:

There's a hidden singular limb for the eye we see on the left.  If you take away the limb supporting the eye we see on the right, you'll find it.

Actually, I'm Thanren.  There was a bit of a mixup with my registration under my normal moniker (EA refusing to send my the account confirmation email), so I couldn't use that account. 

EDIT: Wow, his(?) Fiddler Crabathian is well done...

On average, this is a 1-vertebrae creature

Updated with animated guide.  Hopefully this will clear things up.

Spore: General / Re: Spore CC invisible limb glitch?
« on: August 08, 2008, 08:16:13 am »
I was talking about the link. The instructions are a bit confusing.

Yeah... I was a little sleepy when I wrote it.  Animated guide is up, so hopefully it will be a little clearer.

Spore: General / Re: Spoiler Data Hidden in Creature Creator
« on: June 27, 2008, 08:57:43 pm »
I beginning to not like this topic. Did they seriously leave in the script to the Galactic Campaign?
They know what they did.

Spore: Sporepedia Exchange / Re: [CC] Hydro's Creatures
« on: June 27, 2008, 07:47:58 pm »

Name: Fourworm
Creator: Hydromancerx
Date Created: June 27, 2008
Sporepedia: Rate & Comment
Concept Art: Pic1
Screenshots: Pic1

Since the asymmetry bug did not work on limbs i was stuck making this symmetrical. :/

Yeah, it's a real shame.  As is, the only asymmetrical thing you can make that effects animation is a mouth...

The game is very simplified. Physics don't seem to play any role.
There is no weight, no collisions, no calculations, no resistances, (no physics at all)

Size has some influence on jumping... or at least, my creatures with 5 trial version wings jump to different heights...

Spore: General / Re: Prima guide for Creature Creator
« on: June 26, 2008, 09:37:50 pm »
I think it's funny that their book on the making of Spore was SIX MONTHS IN THE MAKING.  Six months?  HA!

I would like to see a good, independent book or documentary on the making of Spore.  Something not sanctioned by anyone, not even Will.  Or even a different Maxis game.  There must be all sorts of intriguing stories at Maxis.

Be prepared for

"The making of the making of spore", an informative brochure.

Stats should not stack from the same item. That is wrong.
size and a weight factor should be implemented.

Do I need to say "Hear hear!" again?  ;)
Everything in the above post is what I should have said in my first post, as all his words are already in my mind too.
Things like this shouldn't be too hard to implement, and would drastically increase the fun of the game.
Yes, I'd like to see a large fox easily beat a small mole with the same "stats", but see a large group of moles beat that one large fox.
I'd like to see a whopping great bulky bear headbutt a mouse with the same charge "stat" and see the mouse come off much worse!
I'd like to see a gorilla thump a creature and do more damage than a chipmunk with the same paws and attack "stat".
The way it is at the moment, just.........isn't right!

I disagree.  Having an invisible size/weight stat will be annoying, and give an unfair advantage to people overcommited to system mastery.  Creature stats should be transparent - no unseen modifers.

Spore: General / Re: Prima guide for Creature Creator
« on: June 26, 2008, 02:09:31 pm »
I'm pretty sure I could have created the same guide (with the possible exception of screenshots), without actually playing the creator.

Feathers adding to jump? If you didn't know which parts added to what, you'd put that there, but that isn't how the game works.

It's has an extreme lack of information, but hopes nobody will notice because of the pretty pictures.

Reminds me why I don't buy strategy guides... :P

Spore: General / Re: Asymmetry seems to be in
« on: June 25, 2008, 09:40:43 pm »
If there is asymmetry, it isn't in the trial version.

It is. I discovered it once by accident, but couldn't reproduce it afterwards. I figured it was probably a bug - I think it had something to do with the arranging of arms.
Take a look at the first post.  It explains everything.

Spore: Sporepedia Exchange / Re: Slife's abominations against nature
« on: June 25, 2008, 12:38:02 pm »
So, I've been making one creature for a while.  That wasn't enough.

So then I created two creatures at once.  When that proved insufficient I moved onto three.

But even that was not enough.  In vain I struggled to resist, but in the end was forced to the next step.

Five creatures.

Eventually, though, the madness took me entirely.  I couldn't resist.  I made a seven-bladed razor a seven creature angry mob.

First things first, put an arm directly on top of your creature.  It should be in the exact center, a single arm. 

Next, split it at the elbow, so you have a T shape on the top.

Any tips on how to do either of those things?

I'm able to occasionally get a single LEG to appear, but never an arm.  You always get the V-shaped joint stuck to the edge of the body.

I don't know how to split them either.

Adjust the camera so you have a better angle.  If you're facing the creature head-on, put the joint onto the top.  That gives a V shape to the bottom part.  Then grab the elbow joint and move it to the middle of the screen.  It should suddenly switch from having two joints side-by-side to a single branching Y or T joint.  Move the wrist joints a little so it's more like a T than a Y.  The point of this is to expose the elbow joint while you have a part on it.

Grabbing onto the merged elbow joint lets you pull it apart by moving it left or right.

Spore: General / Re: Weird Galaxy Bug
« on: June 22, 2008, 11:02:40 am »
Yeah, I've been getting this for a while.  After making a couple of creatures, I upload one and restart the game, and everything's peachy keen.  If I don't quit before it gets too bad I eventually have to reset my computer to get the game to work (invisible menus are fail.)

Since I've never had this problem, and I keep my drivers up to date, I'm betting that it's a driver problem.

If you guys update your drivers I'm sure it will go away.
Well, given that my drivers and DirectX are up to date (or were last week, at any rate), I can safely rule that out.

Spore: General / Re: Weird Galaxy Bug
« on: June 21, 2008, 04:25:01 pm »
Yeah, I've been getting this for a while.  After making a couple of creatures, I upload one and restart the game, and everything's peachy keen.  If I don't quit before it gets too bad I eventually have to reset my computer to get the game to work (invisible menus are fail.)

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