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Title: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Noflunk on September 01, 2006, 09:48:54 am
Three new videos from GC
Creature 1- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7865997430722795611&q=spore (shows the export and 3d printer button at the end...if anyone cares)
Creature 2- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5725638166542710007&q=spore
Creature 3- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=954802545948231543&q=spore

enjoy
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: aquaman on September 01, 2006, 09:58:51 am
Hooray!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 01, 2006, 10:02:53 am
I'm angry after watching the first one. Why would you waste your 10 minutes making the dumbest looking thing you can imagine?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Noflunk on September 01, 2006, 10:08:21 am
It was frustrating to see him use the tools but im sure we'll all be there at some point. All in all i thought it was a new idea from the rest
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 01, 2006, 10:19:50 am
The third one: Ooh, bird with a pncer penis... Aren't you clever?

I'm angry right now. They were all very ridiculous things to make.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Behumat on September 01, 2006, 10:36:52 am
Actually, I thought the second one was rather well done. Too bad it crashed out on him before he had a chance to save it.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Ogianres on September 01, 2006, 10:41:09 am
The second one would have been pretty good if it had more legs or a much larger tail so it didn't look like it was about to just fall forward on its face. Since that is not the case, these three people need to stop wasting everybody else's time. If I were standing in line waiting for my 10 min. while watching these idiots make their crappy-looking creatures I'm sure I would have a strong impulse to hit them in the throat. Of course, somebody had to make a creature even worse looking than either number one or number three, in which case I would probably have an aneurysm.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Behumat on September 01, 2006, 10:43:13 am
Well, if you ever bump into a creature named sporeonline.de, you'll know to destroy it.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 01, 2006, 10:45:29 am
why do retards always get to use the editor?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Slife on September 01, 2006, 10:49:17 am
why do retards always get to use the editor?

and who would record them?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 01, 2006, 10:53:45 am
other retards,

i hate people like that

i wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.


they let him save the bird with a penis, why did they do that?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Behumat on September 01, 2006, 11:05:58 am
other retards,


I have to agree with that. The camera work was exceptionally shoddy. Clearly a retard.
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h112/dvsvision/retard.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: papaboom on September 01, 2006, 11:12:59 am
There is also another demo video up now - which I assume is the same presentation as the other Leipzig demo but it seems to be better quality then that one.. Once again - this is basically the same as E3..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8809539988910655165&q=SPORE&hl=en
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Bastardman on September 01, 2006, 11:16:35 am
Grr! How dare they make the creatures they want to make?! How could Maxis allow them to do such a thing?!

So we've already seen our first penis creature...  :-\
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Holiace on September 01, 2006, 11:18:31 am
This ongoing new vids all the time keeps you hyped! ^^
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Nazzul on September 01, 2006, 11:20:04 am
I sense alot of hate in this thread.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: huggkruka on September 01, 2006, 11:33:14 am
Are you kidding me? No.1 rocked! ;D CAn't you just see it chasing you, shouting "I'm coming to grab you!"
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: ishkibable on September 01, 2006, 11:34:45 am
would the third one be taken down for "inappropriate content"? also someone there should have taken a removable hard drive to steal the program like in a dream i had last night, i really don't think it would have been that hard, it seems really crowded.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: DarkDragon on September 01, 2006, 11:53:10 am
Anyone noticed the aquatic creature parts are still there? :X

Also when he changes the creature name you can see it has a *.crt extension so we know we will have a file for each creature :P
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Bastardman on September 01, 2006, 11:59:03 am
Anyone noticed the aquatic creature parts are still there? :X
All I saw was that crest and those frilly fin-things. Both of which were in the decorative items palette.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Nazzul on September 01, 2006, 11:59:43 am
Whoever said that they were taking out water creaures?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Bastardman on September 01, 2006, 12:03:09 pm
Whoever said that they were taking out water creaures?
Will Wright did.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Nazzul on September 01, 2006, 12:04:33 pm
No he said that sentiant water creatures may be cut. People have overblown that statement to all water creatures.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 01, 2006, 12:08:47 pm
Grr! How dare they make the creatures they want to make?! How could Maxis allow them to do such a thing?!

Since I have to watch every spore video, I'd appreciate it if the people making it didn't have to be so dumb.

"Tee hee! Let's make a big ball creature! Hey, look how big I can make the hands and how small I can make the feet! I'm clever as hell!"

And then it took them 2 minutes to get something exactly the way they wanted just so they could take it out 10 seconds later, they didn't understand the extremely intuitive controls (the person was screwing around with the ring rotator thing for about 10 seconds dragging it off screen and all this other crap. How could you screw that up?), and they just tried to make the dupiest looking creature possible. I imagine my little cousin would make something better than that if I let him play with it when I get it.

If you want to make something stupid, do it on your own time.

Nazzul, it's been said by some Aussie or Brit or someone who works for maxis that you get out of the cell stage by rolling onto land as a slug-like blob.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Nazzul on September 01, 2006, 12:11:21 pm
Again your miss qouting soemone thats not even a maker of the game. If there are still flying creatures what is the reason for taking out water creatures?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 01, 2006, 12:13:55 pm
Again your miss qouting soemone thats not even a maker of the game.

He works directly for maxis, he's probably a PR guy. Just because he's not Will Wright doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's talking about.

If there are still flying creatures what is the reason for taking out water creatures?

We don't know, but just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean that they'll include the feature.

Stop trying to rationalize, they're probably taking out water creatures. Boo hoo.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Bastardman on September 01, 2006, 12:14:19 pm
No he said that sentiant water creatures may be cut. People have overblown that statement to all water creatures.
He didn't say sentiant, sentient, or even sapient water creatures. The exact quote was: "You start out underwater, at the molecular level, so it's just a matter of whether or not you're forced out and onto land."

Which strongly implies forced out onto land after the molecular (tide pool) phase. On top of the fact that the editor doesn't have any fins apart from the decorative ones.
If you want to make something stupid, do it on your own time.
Pretty difficult, seeing as how the editor isn't available to the public, wouldn't you say?
You all make it sound as though these people don't have the right to be tinkering with the creature editor unless they're willing to take it dead serious. I want to get my hands on the editor as much as the next man, but you don't see me going around complaining about the people who did get the chance, and how they didn't use it make what I would consider to be a cool creature.

Again your miss qouting soemone thats not even a maker of the game. If there are still flying creatures what is the reason for taking out water creatures?
He does work for Maxis, actually. And there's been no evidence of flying creatures in the recent demos, either.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 01, 2006, 12:15:32 pm
Are you kidding me? No.1 rocked! ;D

it looked like a pickled bollock with legs and 2 huge arms

look,

(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/2426/thingrx2.png)

and did you hear that guy giggle when he gave his creature a penis, he is clearly a retarded pervert
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 01, 2006, 12:18:28 pm
You're right, bastardman. They have every right to play with the editor the way they want.

I also have every right to get pissed off at them for making the dumbest thing I've ever seen. And giggling every time they make it look dumber...
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 01, 2006, 12:20:31 pm
one of them made a appendaged bollock and the other one made a penis with a bird attached to it, i think we have a right to say that they are dumbarses
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Bastardman on September 01, 2006, 12:21:51 pm
Fine.

Actually, I'm sure I could have made a far superior penis creature to theirs...
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 01, 2006, 12:25:29 pm

"Actually, I'm sure I could have made a far superior penis creature to theirs..."


you could and i woudn't hate you as long as you didn't giggle when you made it.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: aquaman on September 01, 2006, 12:28:07 pm
hehehehehe......penis....*giggle*.....people have those......hehehe.....im soooooo funny  :D



*Tumbleweed*
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 01, 2006, 12:30:47 pm
ever noticed how things get funnier if you imagine someone doing it while you read it?

do it, it works

what aqau man said me me laugh when i imagined a nerd at his computer doing it
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: aquaman on September 01, 2006, 12:33:01 pm
Well all I have to do is look in the mirror  ;)
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 01, 2006, 12:38:56 pm
i have prepared a noob joke for you all

(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1927/thinggh3.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: SpecialBrownies on September 01, 2006, 12:46:20 pm
I don't see the problem with the first one, if I saw their planet, I would befriend them, or at least I wouldn't destroy them, I might put them in a zoo.

The second was was pretty good, too bad it crashed. But for some reason I just don't like the 2 mouths thing on that one.

The third one was just, stupid, LOLZZ 1T5 G0T A P33N1Z!!1!1ONe!!one1!11
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 01, 2006, 12:49:55 pm
The final product of the first one isn't so bad, I actually like the eye/mouth combination. but they way they made it pissed me off.

"Ok, let's make a big balloon. Ok, add some legs that are way too high and off center... Actually, these would look better as arms. Ok, add hands... Make them REALLY big... Alright, now back down... That's good. Now, let's try to move our mouse over the rotate wheel... Didn't work, how did I **** that up? Oh well, let's try the exact same thing for 15 more seconds and hope it starts working... Nope, lemme do this again... There we go..."
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: SpecialBrownies on September 01, 2006, 12:59:14 pm
Yeah, the creature's fine, the way they made it just makes me angry.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Deep Lee on September 01, 2006, 01:12:50 pm
After seeing all the creature editor videos, it makes me wonder if symmetry is required. I mean, do you think I can put one arm on the left side only? It seems like it has to be in the middle for it to be single, otherwise the editor automatically assumes you want 2. Anyone else notice this?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: huggkruka on September 01, 2006, 01:13:36 pm
According to Hydro there's a symmetry button.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 01, 2006, 01:16:13 pm
It would be hard to make a script that allows a creature to walk if one foot is monstrous on a long leg and the other is tiny on very very short leg...
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: aname on September 01, 2006, 01:35:20 pm
It would be hard to make a script that allows a creature to walk if one foot is monstrous on a long leg and the other is tiny on very very short leg...

I'm assuming thats why its taking so long to get the game out.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Gungnir on September 01, 2006, 01:38:40 pm
WOOOO!!!! I just noticed something in the first one. Hands like a human!!
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: aname on September 01, 2006, 01:47:14 pm
WOOOO!!!! I just noticed something in the first one. Hands like a human!!

um.... yah. its pretty obvious.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Sub on September 01, 2006, 01:48:35 pm
The first one was hilarious
The second creature was really cool
Third one was retarded...


This game is going to be amazing, as long as everyone doesn't make bad creatures like the last one.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Luminar on September 01, 2006, 02:17:07 pm
Creature #1: If there was ever a personification of the concept of a slap, that's it. Though why it gets so much hate here is beyond me, I thought it looked cool.
Creature #2: SPINDLY KILLER FISH!
Creature #3: ... *sigh* well, someone had to make a start -_-
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Bastardman on September 01, 2006, 02:19:36 pm
There's a split second in the first video when they're resizing the mouth and it looks like a Furby...

I hope I never come across sentient Furbies in game...  :-\
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Behumat on September 01, 2006, 02:25:01 pm
I'm honestly not all that worried about running across annoying or obscene content in the game. I figure it just gives me something to war with, and mess about on, all without any guilt.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Dragon_Reborn on September 01, 2006, 02:27:17 pm
The second one looks intresting unlike the penis bird...
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: aquaman on September 01, 2006, 02:29:06 pm
Everyone knows what to do when coming across furbies....

...put them in a microwave (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/47578/Furby_In_Microwave.html)!
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Hydromancerx on September 01, 2006, 03:56:47 pm
Oh the poor bird creature! I wonder if it would get banned or not sicne it was a weapon on the end of that. Also i noticed when you put on an attack weapon the power bars go up. I wonder if that is linked to power.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Fatalfist on September 01, 2006, 04:05:39 pm
i just thought about something while watching these. does any one know if its bin stated or hinted at if you can split the spine or pull out new spot to make extra tails or necks? kinda like if i wanted to make a hydra could i pull out a few new necks from the blob or would i have to use arms as necks or something. the only thing i can think of is the "Debug Squid" pic or the spore site but nothing from any recent footage or interviews that i know of.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: shadowlord18 on September 01, 2006, 04:28:26 pm
1:very intrestin
2:also cool
3:ok bit i liked the others better
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: GrapeFruit on September 01, 2006, 04:38:54 pm
Well, nice vids, but the fact that arms don't make a single move while walking was terribly obvious in the first one. You know, it just looks like it has steel arms to hold those huge hands. I really hope they fix that, otherwise I'll be pissed (and nobody at EA will care  :))

*sigh*, that's so depressing... I know I shouldn't be, but I makes me feel bad. Maybe we should resurrect the "anti-sporessimistic" label again   :)
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: DaMuncha on September 01, 2006, 05:18:27 pm
In regards to Vid 1. Actualy, I think you guys have all been brain washed, either that or your very small minded children. Its Spore, your given the ability to make immaginative creature you want and you all seem hell bent telling people what they can and cant build. Creature One looks like the kinda thing my dad would make. Its imaginative, it looks kinda cartoony, the only problem I have is that he made it 1 size too big. It looked pretty cool when the body was big, but then he made it even bigger and kinda spoiled it. But im sure given the time he woulda made it look good. The texture fits it well too, cool shade of blue.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 01, 2006, 07:19:10 pm
In regards to Vid 1. Actualy, I think you guys have all been brain washed, either that or your very small minded children.

*sigh* You're right, we are all retarded. Our opinions differ, so we must have some kind of brain defect. What else could it possibly be?

v_v
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: luke on September 01, 2006, 07:24:30 pm
Dont you think they should release a early creature editor i mean ok it will have some bugs in it yes but who cares it's not like its the creature editor whats gonna be in the game the game one would be better but at least if they release a early one people will get Some idea of what the editor is capabale of well thats what i think any way and it would bring back the hype as well.

Im geting angry at every one here whineing about some of the creatures that are being made get over it already jesus ok you dont like it fine but that doesnt give you the right to abuse the person/people who made the creature.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Ash on September 01, 2006, 07:33:24 pm
It could be you are acting bitchy bescause you are jealous that you haven't used editor yet.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 01, 2006, 07:40:05 pm
It could be you are acting bitchy bescause you are jealous that you haven't used editor yet.

Oh yeah! Thanks for reminding me why I come to the Spore forum less and less.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Slife on September 01, 2006, 08:15:45 pm
Seems like the baby creature procedural walking isn't done yet.  They all seem to scuttle sideways.


This sporeonline.de people actually did a great job on their video recording of the Leipzig presentation.  They zoomed in at the right times and had pretty good quality throughout - minus a few seconds towards the beginning, and the camera problems at the end.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Chickenman297 on September 01, 2006, 08:50:54 pm
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/chickeman297/meatwad.png)
.....
....
...
..
.
nm :P

I think the second one would have been better if the legs and arms were changed over, but thats just me.

At least we know what to expect from the masses when the game is released.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Talkc on September 01, 2006, 09:11:54 pm
Is it me, or does the first creature have flowers for breasts?

I find that highly disturbing.  :-\
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Full_Metal on September 01, 2006, 10:22:28 pm
I don't understand the elitist hate going on here. All too soon you'll all have spore and nobody's creatures could possibly live up to your impossible expectations. Will you spend your days hating each other's creatures?

Seriously, watching these people struggle with the editor, its obvious that the controls are not as easy to learn as you would make them out to be. And whoever made the first creature appeared to have a clear vision of what they were trying to accomplish (something cute/humorous), searching for parts that resembled what they intended. IMO it looked bad primarily because they were inexperienced with the editor and didn't have time to get things right. Creature 2 was getting pretty cool, before it crashed on them.

Just chill, people.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: gutwrencher89 on September 01, 2006, 10:58:46 pm
The only thing I liked about the first video was the godfather song in the background about halfway through.  He wasted his time on rotating the hands for about 3 minutes which frustrated me, but I understand that it was his first time with the editor.

The second one was probably the only good creature, too bad it crashed.

The third one...well...it was childish.

I dont know if anyone else noticed, but on the editor some parts would randomly change sizes and parts of the body would temporarily dissapear.  They will probably have those problems worked out, but once again the bodies are looking stiff while the creatures are walking.  I also was puzzled by how there is another person there that keeps telling you to do stuff on the editor and pointing at the screen.  I would get so pissed at the person if I was in that position.

Is it just me, or does everyone choose the texture from the first column?

EDIT: I really hope this isn't a sign of creatures I'll see in the game.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: STIG on September 02, 2006, 01:19:24 am
I dont know if anyone else noticed, but on the editor some parts would randomly change sizes

it is because when they were scrolling the mouse wheel to change the part they were on, they moved the mouse to that part on accident, hence changing the size of that part instead
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: STIG on September 02, 2006, 01:20:34 am
damn it i cant do the quote thing!!!  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: aquaman on September 02, 2006, 02:30:35 am
damn it i cant do the quote thing!!! >:( >:( >:(

You mean this?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: huggkruka on September 02, 2006, 02:47:25 am
I noticed a flaw in the first one. When he models it, the hands change size every now and then(and NOT because he changes it).
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: STIG on September 02, 2006, 02:50:11 am
ye aquaman how do i do it?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Eöl on September 02, 2006, 02:52:53 am
You know I'm sure they were trying to make the one hand rise up but didn't know how to make the symmetry button work...

 ;)
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: aquaman on September 02, 2006, 02:57:44 am
ye aquaman how do i do it?

To quote a previous post:

1) Click reply to get to the post screen.
2) Scroll down to the person you want to quote and click on Insert Quote  This should insert their message in the box.

OR

1) When viewing a post, click on (http://gamingsteve.com/blab/Themes/default/images/english/quote.gif) in the top right hand corner of their post.  This should bring you to the post screen with the quote inserted for you.

OR

Click on the small quote symbol (2nd from the right, bottom row) in the list of symbols on the post screen.  This should bring up 2 quote brackets.  These do not contain links, dates or names though.

 ;D

Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: STIG on September 02, 2006, 03:01:02 am
ye aquaman how do i do it?

To quote a previous post:

1) Click reply to get to the post screen.
2) Scroll down to the person you want to quote and click on Insert Quote  This should insert their message in the box.

OR

1) When viewing a post, click on (http://gamingsteve.com/blab/Themes/default/images/english/quote.gif) in the top right hand corner of their post.  This should bring you to the post screen with the quote inserted for you.

OR

Click on the small quote symbol (2nd from the right, bottom row) in the list of symbols on the post screen.  This should bring up 2 quote brackets.  These do not contain links, dates or names though.

 ;D



yay!!! thanks aquaman  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: aquaman on September 02, 2006, 03:03:26 am
No problem STIG   :)
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 02, 2006, 03:04:13 am
He  is a Stig
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: STIG on September 02, 2006, 03:08:50 am
 ??? what is a stig?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 02, 2006, 03:13:47 am
a name for topgears race car driver and any other race car driver
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: STIG on September 02, 2006, 03:56:34 am
o ye i know about the guy off top gear i thought you meant something eles
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Cmendel on September 02, 2006, 04:40:16 am
I wouldn't mind watching my creature drag the carcus of that first one around haha

Anyone notice it's face go inside the body when it does the attack animation? It's only for a split second.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Kezz on September 02, 2006, 06:32:09 am
Three things to contribute:

Firstly, the third creature did not have a penis. It had a large tail that swept forward. I'm afraid I can't speak for the rest of you, but MY penis does not have a large sickle-shaped claw on the end of it just waiting to dice some poor prey to pieces. You are seeing what you want to see when you see a penis.

Secondly, I believe the second creature crashed because the creator -somehow- created pieces that were floating in midair. He attempted to delete one, but he missed another in his haste to go to the animation screen, and I believe that is why it crashed.

Finally, if you watch closely the pieces do resize, but only during an animation. This leads me to believe that instead of using the EXACT sizes and such of pieces, the editor uses approximations in the final product. I believe the game will ever-so-slightly modify your creature to make it more aesthetically pleasing, and also to make it easier to work in-game. I haven't said anything of this so far (but then again, I've only actually started talking on this forum recently), but evidence of this goes all the way back to the GDC '05 video. If you watch closely, the Willosaurus in-game has a much more rounded tail than the Willosaurus in the editor, whose tail was squashed and a bit kinked. Many other creatures have subtle changes between the editor and the game as well.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: huggkruka on September 02, 2006, 07:19:54 am
The GDC05, I think we've all agreed, used different save-points. So Will had to make the Willosaur look so and so, otehrwise people would notice right away that he just loaded another game. That's why there's differances(like the beak on the stomach bird he made during E3, he used the exact same design every time)
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 02, 2006, 08:52:19 am
Hey everybody!

I didn't like the first creature. I laid out reasons why not. Just because you have a different opinion than me doesn't mean that I'm an ***hole or a crackhead. It just means that I have a different opinion. Last I checked, that's allowed.

So don't say "The first creature was fine, stop being a dick." Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm wrong.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: gutwrencher89 on September 02, 2006, 09:37:08 am
Hey everybody!

I didn't like the first creature. I laid out reasons why not. Just because you have a different opinion than me doesn't mean that I'm an ***hole or a crackhead. It just means that I have a different opinion. Last I checked, that's allowed.

So don't say "The first creature was fine, stop being a dick." Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm wrong.

I agree.  Its all about personal preference; I didn't really like the first one either, because I would be going more for a realistic creature than something funny like that.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 02, 2006, 09:48:16 am
Firstly, the third creature did not have a penis. It had a large tail that swept forward.

the guy giggled when he gave it a penis, he added the claw as not to seem like a total prick
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: edspore_91 on September 02, 2006, 10:54:25 am
Don't you think they should release a early creature editor i mean OK it will have some bugs in it yes but who cares it's not like its the creature editor whats gonna be in the game the game one would be better but at least if they release a early one people will get Some idea of what the editor is capable of well thats what i think any way and it would bring back the hype as well

I can see what your saying here as Will did say that all theeditors are pretty much finished. So why couldn't they just release the creature editor, well for starters they would have to waste time producing the demo and releasing which will put the release date for Spore  even further. Also this isn't the real place to talk about demos and there has been 100s of topics on this already, and it has been genrally agreed as a bad idea.

Back on topic.
I think the first creature is cool in a humorous, the second was cool is a more serious way, the third one however was just stupid and waste of time, he could of a least put more stuff on it to show more features of the editor.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: gutwrencher89 on September 02, 2006, 11:53:47 am
Don't you think they should release a early creature editor i mean OK it will have some bugs in it yes but who cares it's not like its the creature editor whats gonna be in the game the game one would be better but at least if they release a early one people will get Some idea of what the editor is capable of well thats what i think any way and it would bring back the hype as well

I can see what your saying here as Will did say that all theeditors are pretty much finished. So why couldn't they just release the creature editor, well for starters they would have to waste time producing the demo and releasing which will put the release date for Spore even further. Also this isn't the real place to talk about demos and there has been 100s of topics on this already, and it has been genrally agreed as a bad idea.


They are probably waiting to release the creature editor (if they even will) till they have a more solid idea of a release date.  How bad would it be to get the creature editor early only to have something happen while they are finishing it up which makes all of the creatures you created unuseable?  They would probably wait till a month or 2 before the game is released before they release the creature editor, and thats if they even do.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 02, 2006, 12:06:58 pm
There were a few strong indications that they'll release it early, but I can't find them so boo.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Lualmoba on September 02, 2006, 12:13:38 pm
Finally, if you watch closely the pieces do resize, but only during an animation. This leads me to believe that instead of using the EXACT sizes and such of pieces, the editor uses approximations in the final product. I believe the game will ever-so-slightly modify your creature to make it more aesthetically pleasing, and also to make it easier to work in-game. I haven't said anything of this so far (but then again, I've only actually started talking on this forum recently), but evidence of this goes all the way back to the GDC '05 video. If you watch closely, the Willosaurus in-game has a much more rounded tail than the Willosaurus in the editor, whose tail was squashed and a bit kinked. Many other creatures have subtle changes between the editor and the game as well.

I think I read an interview somewhere where Will said that the editor would change the creatures a little to make them look better.

Also, has anyone noticed how, when the creature was made bigger, the screen zoomed out a little to show the whole creature?

And why are people calling it a Willosaurus, I thought it's name was Willosaur.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Myshuno on September 02, 2006, 02:44:18 pm
The first one is funny becuase you hear machine guns and german people talking then you hear like a steam train move up then you hear people bagging for mercy.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Protoavis on September 02, 2006, 03:46:55 pm
So why couldn't they just release the creature editor, well for starters they would have to waste time producing the demo and releasing which will put the release date for Spore  even further.

Erm, what to you suggest these people are using to create their creatures?

Penes don't have bones, even without the claw thing, it's not a penis unless you want it to be, I saw no testicles/scrotum.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: DaMuncha on September 02, 2006, 04:16:07 pm
and it was attached to its ass, like a tail. WHICH IT WAS. Thankfully MY spine doesnt grow through into my penis.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: gutwrencher89 on September 02, 2006, 04:17:34 pm
So why couldn't they just release the creature editor, well for starters they would have to waste time producing the demo and releasing which will put the release date for Spore  even further.

Erm, what to you suggest these people are using to create their creatures?

Penes don't have bones, even without the claw thing, it's not a penis unless you want it to be, I saw no testicles/scrotum.

I know now not to download any of your stuff.  It was the placement and shape which suggested that it was a penis, and the fact that he was giggling like elementary school kids saying poop.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: aname on September 02, 2006, 04:23:24 pm
So why couldn't they just release the creature editor, well for starters they would have to waste time producing the demo and releasing which will put the release date for Spore  even further.

Erm, what to you suggest these people are using to create their creatures?

Penes don't have bones, even without the claw thing, it's not a penis unless you want it to be, I saw no testicles/scrotum.

I know now not to download any of your stuff.  It was the placement and shape which suggested that it was a penis, and the fact that he was giggling like elementary school kids saying poop.

he giggled more when the creature seemed to grab it when it roared.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Chickenman297 on September 02, 2006, 05:54:07 pm
Human penes don't have bones, even without the claw thing, it's not a penis unless you want it to be, I saw no testicles/scrotum.
*Fixed*
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Protoavis on September 02, 2006, 05:57:11 pm
It was the placement and shape which suggested that it was a penis, and the fact that he was giggling like elementary school kids saying poop.

from behind to the front made from a spine? ZOMG PENIS!

Their giggling is irrelevant, you see what you wanna see.

It's like with

http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lionking.htm
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/mermaid.htm

You see what you want to see, I think your comment about shape is kinda redundant because it didn't get fatter at the end despite the ability to do that. It's shape really wasn't different from half of the creatures limbs and tails we've seen, thus the only real issue is its placement between the legs, even though having a limb and weapon there could be a valuable asset particularly when it's the furtherest thing that's sticking out of the creature.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Bastardman on September 02, 2006, 06:16:01 pm
Words.
So, by that token, the legs aren't REALLY legs, because they don't have bones, OR muscles in them!
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Protoavis on September 02, 2006, 07:32:13 pm
Pretty much, technically they're just limbs of undetermined nature until you attach a foot or hand or whatever else attachment to them completing it's function. They can also become extra necks...so pretty much whatever you want to make them, it's all in the interpretation and since once actually in the game you wont be seeing or hearing from the creator of the creatures it further becomes whatever you want to see. Maybe I'm just less perverted and can see something other than a penis on an entirely fictional alien character, how weird is that.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Kezz on September 02, 2006, 08:21:10 pm
So, by that token, the legs aren't REALLY legs, because they don't have bones, OR muscles in them!

Well, since in all technicality the creatures of spore are made from silly putty, sunshine, and farts, whether or not they classify as anything is debatable.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: HolsteinCow on September 02, 2006, 09:33:58 pm
at least we know that you can make penises
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Deep Lee on September 03, 2006, 01:35:49 am
It was probably made to be a penis-like instrument, but that doesn't mean it's neccessarily offensive or an unnatural occurance among aliens.
Right now, for REAL, there could be an alien race in the universe that looks something like that.

I thought it was a valid enough creature not to be immediately flagged as offensive, if I was going to flag any creature I come across.
looks like an upside-down scorpion or something. I'd probably give that creator the lowest rating possible, so that I wouldn't recieve anymore of his creatures...

That makes me think about the rating system, like Will was saying, it acclimates to the individual user, a lot like the way Amazon.com works.
So that means we probably have the option on each species/planet/plantlife we encounter to give 1-10 stars or something like that...
I wonder if thats in the "Creature Encyclopedia" menu, that lists with cards the stats of every species you encounter. hmmmm

how do you guys think that will work?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Bastardman on September 03, 2006, 06:51:07 am
I cannot believe what this thread has become.

We're actually debating whether or not someone made a penis. Are you happy now, Protoavis? Are you?!
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Brutus on September 03, 2006, 09:39:40 am
he made it, giggled and then added a claw on the end so he didn't look like a total arse hole, end of the matter.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Protoavis on September 04, 2006, 01:15:47 am
We're actually debating whether or not someone made a penis. Are you happy now, Protoavis? Are you?!

Oh yes, because I'm the one that's all "ZOMG PENIS PENIS PENIS!" Lets remember I'm the one that DOESN'T see penis on an entirely fictional 3D model alien creature. If that same protrusion was placed on the creatures head would you be yelling "ZOMG D!CKHEAD!"  Or if it was comming out of it's arm socket would it's arm be a penis to you? Even without the attachment. Seriously if you cut your penis off and stuck it on other parts of your body it's still gonna look like a penis..the same can't be said for this.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Bastardman on September 04, 2006, 06:41:12 am
We're actually debating whether or not someone made a penis. Are you happy now, Protoavis? Are you?!

Oh yes, because I'm the one that's all "ZOMG PENIS PENIS PENIS!" Lets remember I'm the one that DOESN'T see penis on an entirely fictional 3D model alien creature. If that same protrusion was placed on the creatures head would you be yelling "ZOMG D!CKHEAD!"  Or if it was comming out of it's arm socket would it's arm be a penis to you? Even without the attachment. Seriously if you cut your penis off and stuck it on other parts of your body it's still gonna look like a penis..the same can't be said for this.
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/694/penisdw0.gif)

NOTE: The above image cannot be deemed offensive, as there is no penis in it.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Khornel on September 04, 2006, 09:31:08 am
Human penes don't have bones, even without the claw thing, it's not a penis unless you want it to be, I saw no testicles/scrotum.
*Fixed*

Lol, great pun :D Human penes
...And your discussion is kinda lame, it's just drawing out the obvious and it has no constructive conclusion what-so-ever
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Chickenman297 on September 04, 2006, 09:54:10 am
Hehe... yes it does.  A lot of people were making the assumption that a penis doesn't have a bone when this is only true for humans.  Heck, even the point about it having a claw on the end is invalid because many insects have claws on theirs  :o
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: DarkDragon on September 04, 2006, 10:10:20 am
lol, when I made my Spiki creature someone asked if the third leg was a penis so ye, the "you see what you want to see" statement is valid.

Now I was thinking about the creature with the long spine that looks like a penis and wondered how the procedural mating of that will look like :S
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Deep Lee on September 04, 2006, 11:35:19 am
(http://www.mobileradicals.com/images/thumb/1/16/Toejam_earl.jpg/300px-Toejam_earl.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Gungnir on September 04, 2006, 12:14:22 pm
We're actually debating whether or not someone made a penis. Are you happy now, Protoavis? Are you?!

Oh yes, because I'm the one that's all "ZOMG PENIS PENIS PENIS!" Lets remember I'm the one that DOESN'T see penis on an entirely fictional 3D model alien creature. If that same protrusion was placed on the creatures head would you be yelling "ZOMG D!CKHEAD!"  Or if it was comming out of it's arm socket would it's arm be a penis to you? Even without the attachment. Seriously if you cut your penis off and stuck it on other parts of your body it's still gonna look like a penis..the same can't be said for this.
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/694/penisdw0.gif)

NOTE: The above image cannot be deemed offensive, as there is no penis in it.

Now that's hilarious...

What species is that? Phallus Magnus?

Edit: That is now what I am calling the "penis creature". Phallus Magnus.
I don't care if you say it's not a penis, it's still funny.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: HolsteinCow on September 04, 2006, 01:15:47 pm
(http://www.mobileradicals.com/images/thumb/1/16/Toejam_earl.jpg/300px-Toejam_earl.jpg)


the first thing i'm going to do in spore is blow up planet funkatron
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: DaMuncha on September 04, 2006, 05:52:57 pm
The phalic body part you speak of was its tail, didnt u see how he made it? And only a child would think that scribble has a penis. bloody children.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: shadowlord18 on September 04, 2006, 06:55:23 pm
these lot just are dity minded little people
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: 762 on September 04, 2006, 07:03:58 pm
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2789/myarmyb9.png)

Come on, guys. It's just my arm. Penises don't have femurs.

If you initially see it as a penis, there's only one explanation: You like seeing penises.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: shadowlord18 on September 04, 2006, 08:08:36 pm
thank you it is just a appenage like any other and any one who is not completly sexully opsesed can see this
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Xenomorph on September 05, 2006, 07:19:24 am

If you initially see it as a penis, there's only one explanation: You like seeing penises.

i see a t-shirt. am i seeing t-shirts and if so am i a freak then?   :D
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: DaMuncha on September 05, 2006, 03:40:12 pm
The answer is: yes
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Duke Rajko on September 05, 2006, 04:08:58 pm
What the hell is this debate? Everyone is petrified of people creating raving penis monsters until someone actually does it and then suddenly, "Oh, its not a penis! Its just a huge long non-jointed arm, sticking out from... between it's legs! la la la, not listening, la la la you are ill"
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: DaMuncha on September 05, 2006, 04:19:25 pm
I was thinking a single apendage sticking out of its groin, with a hand on the end. "Ahh its trying to grab my ass!"
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Genusaus on September 05, 2006, 06:38:06 pm
Three things to contribute:

Firstly, the third creature did not have a penis. It had a large tail that swept forward. I'm afraid I can't speak for the rest of you, but MY penis does not have a large sickle-shaped claw on the end of it just waiting to dice some poor prey to pieces. You are seeing what you want to see when you see a penis.

Secondly, I believe the second creature crashed because the creator -somehow- created pieces that were floating in midair. He attempted to delete one, but he missed another in his haste to go to the animation screen, and I believe that is why it crashed.

That's correct, everyone acted so childishly about the "Penis" because it's not a penis alright? Also, if you believe that others do not have the right to expression, it would be as if I take away your right to expression and never give you a chance to play Spore because I dislike your editing skills and what you believe is "funny". I put two eyes next to my tail does that mean when I laugh I'm perveted because I think they are testicles, or do you think they are testicles and make fun of me by your own prejudice, for your thought is always mine and I never noticed they were like that?
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Deep Lee on September 05, 2006, 08:19:27 pm
ok. ENOUGH.  END IT NOW!!!!
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: LadyM on September 06, 2006, 05:59:11 am
ok. ENOUGH.  END IT NOW!!!!

Agreed. Discuss something else please.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Dauntless on September 06, 2006, 08:04:22 am
These videos are really cool. The first one was hilarious ;D Second was very cool ;) Third one freaked me out :D Still all good though  ;)
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: rayofash on September 06, 2006, 12:19:05 pm
All you people insulting the guys in the videos using the editors are jerks. They have never used it before and are still learning the controls. And its hard to think of something on-the-fly. Especially with all the noise in the backgrounds, and the people behind you wanting to use it too. Unless you have used it before, know how it works, and have something already in mind, you arent going to create a masterpiece.

Also, I thought the creature was pretty cool.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: DaMuncha on September 06, 2006, 04:07:09 pm
I can and I will.
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: CosmicD on September 06, 2006, 07:36:47 pm
jee, are we all becoming spore nazi's befor we actually play the game ? Why are people being called retared to add a penis or to try to make a ball....

Is robin williams a retard too, making a creature that kisses it's own ass or can call to himself ? I smell double standarding out of jealousy here ...

Since when do we have to be so uptight about a piece of entertainment that's intended to create goof and entertain us ?

I'd like to know if those who have critics would be so painty in an exposition with pressure all around you to not spend hours and hours to get to know this thing ? I've been to my share of fairs alot so I can tell how it feels, you don't really have the feeling of learning all this from the confort of your own sofa, you have to let others play, people are watching you... and then it's only natural that you are happy with the slightest satisfaction that you can get from playing

Don't be so serious about it

For me, all I was concerned about a bit was to why creature 1 actually didn't use his hands, It was placed in a weird spot but I wonder if this determines if it's gonna be used or if it's just used as "sexual display"....

With creature 2 I wonder if it would be possible to pronounce the legs more as insect or spider legs and configuring them as such so they would behave like that..

And yeah, I'd definitely ask whoever was assisting me from maxis if you could make a ball with spikes and if it would roll :)
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Therewolf on September 06, 2006, 07:46:27 pm
Has anyone else noticed that people don't seem to try to manipulate the spine directly?
I mean they dlete and remake the spine, but no one has dragged it around like in the RW video,
It seems to lead to a lot of creatures that wipe their ass (look ma, no hands) as they walk.
just an observation
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Helvetica on September 07, 2006, 02:03:52 am
I'm angry after watching the first one. Why would you waste your 10 minutes making the dumbest looking thing you can imagine?

wait till spore goes gold :D
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Luminar on September 07, 2006, 04:23:30 am
The ball dude was cool and there was nothing wrong with making it if it's what you wanted. DISCUSSION OVER
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Khornel on September 07, 2006, 04:34:56 am
Lol! F*ck spore, this is entertainment enough; seeing people going crazy over other people having fun with a G-A-M-E!!!! For crying out loud... You don't HAVE to be serious about games, you can do whatever you want to with it. Games are created so people can have fun, no matter who they are, mostly. "Every creature is valid" as it has been said...
WW would be ashamed of you! Being angry with people enjoying "his" game >:(
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: Chickenman297 on September 07, 2006, 04:43:27 am
The ball dude was cool
Agreed.  It reminded me of Meatwad from Aqua Teen Hunger Force :D
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: DaMuncha on September 07, 2006, 07:21:56 am
Meat Wad gets the money, see
Meat Wad gets the honeys, she
driving in my car
living like a star
ice on my fingers and my toes and im a tard
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: TheChaos7 on September 07, 2006, 10:10:56 am
holy crap. i am mighty disapointed in the community here!!  the premise of the editors was for players to be able to make whatever they want. there is no right or wrong creature. and now you guys are having a fit because of what people made FIRST TIME EVER PLAYING

i think its time to grow up
Title: Re: 3 New Creature Editor videos
Post by: HanianKnight on September 07, 2006, 01:11:02 pm
Meat Wad gets the money, see
Meat Wad gets the honeys, she
driving in my car
living like a star
ice on my fingers and my toes and im a tard

its taurus, at the end of that part of the song he says taurus