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Title: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on April 18, 2008, 12:02:36 pm
my friend cant tell the difference between WoW and real life...it's all he talks about and he gets picked on alot for it
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Ultramarine on April 18, 2008, 12:42:32 pm
Psychiatrist perhaps or a good talking to.
Seems like the only way to do it other than an intervention :P.

That's all I can offer, wish I could help your friend :(.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Serdun on April 18, 2008, 02:42:03 pm
my friend cant tell the difference between WoW and real life...it's all he talks about and he gets picked on alot for it

The weather is getting really nice out this time of year. Maybe you could take him to something fun outside, like an amusement park or something. Show him there are more interesting things to spend his time on than his overrated, addictive video game.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Kaizer on April 18, 2008, 05:50:15 pm
We live in derry an old foresty hick town filled with pedophiles nothing really to do but go out on the lake i live near



he always ditches me when i suggest doing something like that it's getting pretty bad...seriously his room is filled with the stuff and his parents just dont really care
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Ultramarine on April 18, 2008, 05:56:07 pm
Bad parenting could be one cause of his dilemma.
Or he just needs more of a social life.

Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Kaizer on April 18, 2008, 06:03:42 pm
most likely

but you know kids these days..they wont let people change and its always hard when your already labeled as something


also sucks since people think i play wow also...
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Yuu on April 18, 2008, 09:06:52 pm
              Try letting him join a forum. Let him socialize with the people there. Eventually, he might get an urge to share some things that he has with the rest of the forum, like taking pictures and stuff. Afterwards, you might be able to take him outside so he could go get some pictures of your town. While the two of you are taking photos, you can ask him to do some activities with you, like walking across the woods to take some pictures.

              Fixating him on a constructive hobby might help. It doesn't necessarily matter if it's an outdoor or indoor one. You might start with an indoor one and slowly introduce to him different outdoor hobbies that's related to his indoor one.

              That's all I can do, Kaizer. I haven't met him in person so I'm not sure if it'll work. :-\

              Still, good luck! :)
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Kaizer on April 18, 2008, 09:32:45 pm
i'll try that thanks
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Great Distance on April 19, 2008, 06:14:29 am
but you know kids these days..they wont let people change and its always hard when your already labeled as something

Hey, that's so true! I mean, I'm always quiet at school and people never seem to expect me to say anything. So I don't. For them, it would seem almost like out of ordinary if I ever talked. So I stay quiet and so they expect me to stay quiet and so on. Everybody just thinks I'm weird, ugly, quiet and boring. Who wants to talk with that kind of a person? People might think that they're weird, ugly and boring, too. Don't come closer to me or you might get infected! And then everyone will hate you, too! Of course, everyone wants to be popular, so they leave me alone. Ah, if only I had been funny, nice and talkative from the beginning...

Right, it can be pretty for people to change. You have been assigned a role and you must act by it. You sir, you are UNPOPULAR. Now you can proceed to be so for the rest of your life. No no, you can't change the role, sir. It has already been assigned.

Anyway, I hope things go well with your friend. Nice to hear that people still have friends who really care.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 19, 2008, 08:19:50 am
Thats crap. I used to be pretty unpopular in the early days of secondary school; now I am really popular. I don't think theres any sort of conspiracy to stop people being popular; if they desire such a thing. Ever considered that people sometimes don't like other people simply because they're not exceedingly likeable?

But no, obviously they're just terrified of losing social status. Maybe everyone really is that shallow.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: emmet on April 19, 2008, 08:23:56 am
If you want to be popular, become exactly like everyone else.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Ultramarine on April 19, 2008, 08:36:45 am
Er... great advice AW?
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 19, 2008, 08:46:51 am
Or...be generally quite charismatic and somewhat interesting? Being funny helps.

People who emulate each other are dull; and end up only friends with similar clones. Have fun.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Ultramarine on April 19, 2008, 08:56:26 am
The 'clone syndrome', god there's a lot of that at my school; mainly with females in mind

But that is closely related to 'cliques' in general school terminology, usually consisting of clone personalities and such. Unlike a 'group' of friends which doesn't ruin the group dynamic in normal terms by having multiple personality traits instead of the same dull one in 'cliques'.

That's how it is with me anyway.
Honestly I am kind of like the x factor when it comes to friends, with my mainly passive attitude I can become friends with just about everyone I meet. I am popular in my own way, just about everyone I see during school days (I mean EVERYWHERE) knows me some how. In the terms of highschool popularity (hollywood like status) I am in no means popular. The main reason why people are attracted to me is for my friendliness and my cool Al Roker like voice (Also do a good impression of Cleveland from family guy too. Also I sound like the more stereotypical white teenager with a slightly deeper voice; I say this because I am African American).
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Great Distance on April 19, 2008, 11:07:44 am
Thats crap. I used to be pretty unpopular in the early days of secondary school; now I am really popular. I don't think theres any sort of conspiracy to stop people being popular; if they desire such a thing. Ever considered that people sometimes don't like other people simply because they're not exceedingly likeable?

But no, obviously they're just terrified of losing social status. Maybe everyone really is that shallow.

Yeah, you're right. Maybe I put it wrong in my post, but I can't be bothered to check because... well, the whole post just sounds too stupid now... But I suppose I just needed to get all the stupid thoughts out of my head for once. I mean... if you just think about something too long, it will eventually turn out a bit disproportioned, you know what I mean?

I agree that it's most likely me that is causing my own problems. Being overly paranoid about everything probably doesn't make one much more likable. But it just bothers me a bit when I'm the first one to come sit at my pals' regular bench and then they walk right past me and go sit somewhere else. And then they talk about "us 5" when there's 6 of us. They probably think I'm just incredibly stupid for not getting the message already.

Aw crap, just forget that I said anything.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Gungnir on April 19, 2008, 11:13:52 am
but you know kids these days..they wont let people change and its always hard when your already labeled as something

Hey, that's so true! I mean, I'm always quiet at school and people never seem to expect me to say anything. So I don't. For them, it would seem almost like out of ordinary if I ever talked. So I stay quiet and so they expect me to stay quiet and so on. Everybody just thinks I'm weird, ugly, quiet and boring. Who wants to talk with that kind of a person? People might think that they're weird, ugly and boring, too. Don't come closer to me or you might get infected! And then everyone will hate you, too! Of course, everyone wants to be popular, so they leave me alone. Ah, if only I had been funny, nice and talkative from the beginning...

Right, it can be pretty for people to change. You have been assigned a role and you must act by it. You sir, you are UNPOPULAR. Now you can proceed to be so for the rest of your life. No no, you can't change the role, sir. It has already been assigned.

Anyway, I hope things go well with your friend. Nice to hear that people still have friends who really care.
Hmm..I'm the "Geeky" kid in our school. Only one that plays dnd, relatively up to date with video game news (thanks to this place), grammar nazi, straight a's, bad hair (not like my 7th grade jewfro, but getting there), reads a book a day, etc. Somehow though, I'm not shunned at all. Except by rednecks, who i refuse to speak with anyway, because their only purpose at my school is to make fun of people who don't drive trucks.

Oh well. That's a good thing.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: emmet on April 19, 2008, 11:28:26 am
Or...be generally quite charismatic and somewhat interesting? Being funny helps.

People who emulate each other are dull; and end up only friends with similar clones. Have fun.

I find that the people who do this are usually the ones considered popular.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: blitzonator on April 19, 2008, 12:14:21 pm
my school:

1) Abusing animals is always good.
2) Take drugs daily.
3) Abuse anyone that stands out.
4) Wear garbage.
5) ???
6) Popularity!
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 19, 2008, 12:25:06 pm
Thats crap. I used to be pretty unpopular in the early days of secondary school; now I am really popular. I don't think theres any sort of conspiracy to stop people being popular; if they desire such a thing. Ever considered that people sometimes don't like other people simply because they're not exceedingly likeable?

But no, obviously they're just terrified of losing social status. Maybe everyone really is that shallow.

Yeah, you're right. Maybe I put it wrong in my post, but I can't be bothered to check because... well, the whole post just sounds too stupid now... But I suppose I just needed to get all the stupid thoughts out of my head for once. I mean... if you just think about something too long, it will eventually turn out a bit disproportioned, you know what I mean?

I agree that it's most likely me that is causing my own problems. Being overly paranoid about everything probably doesn't make one much more likable. But it just bothers me a bit when I'm the first one to come sit at my pals' regular bench and then they walk right past me and go sit somewhere else. And then they talk about "us 5" when there's 6 of us. They probably think I'm just incredibly stupid for not getting the message already.

Aw crap, just forget that I said anything.

Then those people are dicks and should be ditched anyway. You'll find better friends elsewhere. I think a huge amount of it comes down to confidence.

Yeah, Clone People are popular, but generally only amongst other clones. Developing your own personality and interests is preferable. Enjoy being the envy of the Clone people for your freedom.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Kaizer on April 19, 2008, 02:42:23 pm
Or...be generally quite charismatic and somewhat interesting? Being funny helps.

People who emulate each other are dull; and end up only friends with similar clones. Have fun.

I find that the people who do this are usually the ones considered popular.

Thats what they think is popular go make your own definition of the word
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: emmet on April 19, 2008, 02:46:15 pm
You realize you can't define popular, as who's popular is defined by the popular definition?

(Ouch, brain pain)

Anyway, I don't support what I am saying, or am moaning about it in any way. Just stating the obvious.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Inkling on April 19, 2008, 03:17:15 pm
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/popular

Do I win something?
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: Daxx on April 20, 2008, 03:10:39 am
Cliques happen. Form your own.

EDIT: Without meaning to sound harsh, it's not like you don't have any friends at all, is it? And if you're hanging around with people who ignore you, are they really your friends? You should hang out with people who like you, or not at all.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on April 20, 2008, 07:07:23 am
I split this off as it seemed to warrant it's own thread since there is much discussion about teens and friend problems.

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This morning there is another story of a group of teen age girls beating up another girl and posting it on YouTube. Then follows a story of a rise in underage drinking for teen girls. Videos and pictures of drunk girls also get posted on myspace and facebook. It seems like peer pressure with a dose of utter stupidity make for a very bad combination. What happened to common sense?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Celdur on April 20, 2008, 07:12:05 am
a while ago there was this thing on the news about young girls having sex with random people who would buy expensive clothes for them if they did
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 20, 2008, 07:13:36 am
This morning there is another story of a group of teen age girls beating up another girl and posting it on YouTube. Then follows a story of a rise in underage drinking for teen girls. Videos and pictures of drunk girls also get posted on myspace and facebook. It seems like peer pressure with a dose of utter stupidity make for a very bad combination. What happened to common sense?

It never existed. Teenagers have been disruptive and idiotic from the beginning of time.

a while ago there was this thing on the news about young girls having sex with random people who would buy expensive clothes for them if they did

Ah, that goes back to the dawn of time as well >_>
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on April 20, 2008, 07:20:48 am
Another story? I thought there was only one occurrence of these events ???.

I guess the teen population is getting more violent with the hormones raging and what not.
I do agree with you KS teenagers were always like this, but it seems with the modern times acts of violence among teens seems to be more excessive and more and more violent.

When will it stop?!
(likely never)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on April 20, 2008, 07:24:37 am
Teens have always done stupid things but it seems to be worse with the internet available. These things won't go away, it will be there to haunt them much later. Back in the past kids who went drinking would not video it, they went to great lengths to hide it. I don't remember girls grouping up to beat up other girls. The guys did it sometimes but that was after school or on the way home.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on April 20, 2008, 07:31:58 am
Well the internet is a gateway to other horrible things but at least we know what goes down in the videos. With out the videos (applies to some cases) evidence could be hard to get as most teens would rather hide things from adults. Examples: bad report cards, bullying, internet threats etc.

Video taping is one of the stupidest things to do, plus putting it on youtube, or any other video hosting website, is even worse. The reason for it is popularity, but I don't see how beating up some one who didn't want a fight in the first place and posting it on the web makes you popular.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on April 20, 2008, 07:48:59 am
I had a classmate during my first semester who decided it would be a good idea to take pictures of herself naked, and send them to her then-boyfriend. Well, he sent them to his friends, then they to theirs...and so on. Fortunately I never got them; I don't really want to be involved. People even took the pictures, made a fake myspace for the girl, and made the pictures the profile images. Anyway, I think she got ISS and that was about it.

One week later: I'm watching the news, and I see that in Pennsylvania pretty much the same thing happened, except that instead of ISS for the girl, everyone who may have gotten the pictures had their phone confiscated by police to see if they had deleted the images, and if they didn't comply they'd be tried for possession of child pornography.

Yeah..people do strange things.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Serdun on April 20, 2008, 07:55:39 am
Teens have always done stupid things but it seems to be worse with the internet available. These things won't go away, it will be there to haunt them much later. Back in the past kids who went drinking would not video it, they went to great lengths to hide it. I don't remember girls grouping up to beat up other girls. The guys did it sometimes but that was after school or on the way home.

It's not so much that more teens are doing these things because of the internet, but that we hear about these things more because of the internet.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 20, 2008, 07:58:38 am
Indeed. Its like when people claim homosexuality is on the rise when the likelyhood is that people are just being more open about it because there isn't such a huge stigma about it.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on April 20, 2008, 08:15:17 am
Teens have always done stupid things but it seems to be worse with the internet available. These things won't go away, it will be there to haunt them much later. Back in the past kids who went drinking would not video it, they went to great lengths to hide it. I don't remember girls grouping up to beat up other girls. The guys did it sometimes but that was after school or on the way home.

It's not so much that more teens are doing these things because of the internet, but that we hear about these things more because of the internet.

Agreed, it's not called the information super highway for nothing ::).
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on April 22, 2008, 01:33:09 pm
My mother has fallen into one of her occasional funks about how the family conspires against her, she doesn't get enough respect, nobody ever lifts a finger for her in any way, et cetera. Long story short, she said I never do anything for her, and so yesterday I didn't. Now she's having my computer and TV taken out of my room and hidden somewhere. Don't expect to see me on often for a while, she doesn't listen to reason, and she doesn't like being called on her lies; It's disrespectful.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on April 22, 2008, 01:39:30 pm
I feel for you Brandon, my moms like that but I understand how she feels.
She never gets her word in so she acts like a lunatic with a cynical smile and laugh to boot
Like you, she threatens to take the tv and or computer out of my room for late nighters during the week.
It's getting ridiculous with the threats, just because she has an inferiority complex doesn't mean she has to take it out on me.

Good luck, you'll need it :(.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on April 22, 2008, 01:42:39 pm
Be grateful...My father took my signed hockey stick (worth alot of money somewhere in the thousands) and used to to smash in my tv, ps2, computer, and gameboy. all because I had failed chemistry.




Theres other bad crap I could say but eh...thats all you need to hear

Edit: Oh forgot to mention...I'm still recuperating from it   :'(

(so much of my hard earned cash spent on those...gone GONE!!!!)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: emmet on April 22, 2008, 01:46:04 pm
Wow. That really sucks, but I am kinda sure there has got to be more to it than that.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on April 22, 2008, 01:46:50 pm
Whoa WTFBBQ!?

How the hell does he get away with that?! That's pretty extreme, make sure he doesn't try hitting you man :o.

Not to criticize but jesus bad parenting, I think he needs anger management.
And I thought it couldn't get any worse.

pm me about it if you want Kaizer
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on April 22, 2008, 01:49:54 pm
I dont think he's a bad parent mainly since his father died when he was 3 and his mother at 13. I dont blame him so much for his anger problems and he did try anger management but his drinking is what is his problem (been trying to get him to stop.)


I also figure the fact my mother is even more cold hearted (another very sad story) is why




lastly....trust me my life was a living hell from ages 3-13. I'm actually grateful it's gotten better.



If I get around to it i'll post the full story in the news for your blues thread.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on April 22, 2008, 01:53:35 pm
We'd love to hear it.

But you could also take up my suggestion in my previous post if that helps at all.
Just sayin.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on April 22, 2008, 02:42:16 pm
Indeed. Its like when people claim homosexuality is on the rise when the likelyhood is that people are just being more open about it because there isn't such a huge stigma about it.

Oh damn you, now all the ads are Gay Pairship sites.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on April 22, 2008, 02:43:53 pm
Well finished typing it up. It's posted now

Damn longest thing I ever posted (could have been longer but left out some things)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: MetallicDragon on April 22, 2008, 08:36:53 pm
I'm lucky to have really nice and relatively lax parents, but I think part of it is that they trust me not to get in trouble or do stupid stuff, which I honor.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on April 22, 2008, 08:53:10 pm
My parents are separated and I openly admit that I hate my father. I kinda resent the fact that I'm stuck with his last name, actually.

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yannick on April 23, 2008, 11:25:38 am
Lulz, I cut my wrists-s-s.




On a more serious note, I have strict parents when it comes to computer time. I get a time limit, and every minute I go over that time limit is a day without computer.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Veraal on April 23, 2008, 12:28:17 pm
Yeah. i like to cry and punch the mirror.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: martyk on April 23, 2008, 12:34:58 pm
I am happy as my parrents are fair and just.  I've had to work hard to earn many of the rights I now hold, but iz good.

I just wish my mom wouldn't be so persnicketty about some of the games I play.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: emmet on April 23, 2008, 01:14:53 pm
I live every day thinking about the next.

It's depressing.

Angst! ;D
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 23, 2008, 01:47:42 pm
Well, I can't say I have much of a history with teen problems. Although I have been feeling depressed on and off lately, come July it won't be a teen problem any more.
Yay... no longer a teenager.  :P
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on April 23, 2008, 03:19:01 pm
I don't have any problems with school, besides some people not liking me I'm cool with it because I have a pretty good group of friends. I do have one question, what do you guys think about 13/14 year olds smoking weed?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on April 23, 2008, 03:24:59 pm
I don't have any problems with school, besides some people not liking me I'm cool with it because I have a pretty good group of friends. I do have one question, what do you guys think about 13/14 year olds smoking weed?

This comic explains the effects of drugs in general:

(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8498/lsdme7.png)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Little on April 23, 2008, 04:45:58 pm
I don't have any problems with school, besides some people not liking me I'm cool with it because I have a pretty good group of friends. I do have one question, what do you guys think about 13/14 year olds smoking weed?

This comic explains the effects of drugs in general:

(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8498/lsdme7.png)

Those comics(Cyancide and Happiness) are hilarious. They update daily.

My only problems are marks.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: /lurk on April 23, 2008, 04:48:31 pm
Weed isn't the same as LSD. Considering that C&H actually did a comic strip about Cannabis, that's just straightforward misinformation.

But honestly 789, I'd say that you should at least wait until you're of legal age to smoke tobacco and have given the whole issue of smoking various thing some more thought. Or better yet, wait until you're legally an adult and people who told you to do drugs on the internet can't possibly be considered responsible for the consequences.

Then go nuts.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on April 23, 2008, 05:17:53 pm
I have several 13/14/15 year old classmates who not only smoke and drink, but they do various drugs as well. Mainly marijuana, but I'm pretty sure a few do cocaine.


Now, the really STUPID thing about this (besides the drugs being unhealthy) is that some kids will bring pot to school (and ask around for a lighter). Anyway, they don't seem to realize that a school is a government owned building. Why the hell would you bring illegal substances onto government property?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on April 23, 2008, 05:22:04 pm
Because they are idiots who become more idiotic from the drugs?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 23, 2008, 05:23:57 pm
Why the hell would you *own* illegal substances anyway? :P

Seems to me that you're already breaking the law just from being in posession of the stuff, it doesn't exactly make it worse that you're standing on government property.

Anyway, drugs are bad, mmkay?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on April 23, 2008, 05:29:39 pm
It doesn't make it worse, it's just as bad, but it's stupid on their part because it is more likely that they get caught.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Draugr on April 23, 2008, 05:32:26 pm
Drugs suck. I have smoked weed before, and contrary to popular belief, it does not feel that good. Smoking tobacco makes me cough so I don't like it at all. Drinking makes me do **** I don't know about, so I hate it, plus its more fun to mess around with your drunk friends than to get drunk yourself. The only substance I do use that is illegal for me to use is dip. I love it, it can give you some crazy head buzzes, but I don't recommend doing it unless you control yourself as it can be addicting and it can cause cancer and give you diplip, so your dentist WILL know you dip. Plus you can do it in class, and nobody will ever know. Once again though, I do not recommend trying it.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Hammerman58 on April 23, 2008, 05:34:44 pm
I got a good one for you guys. My one friend is a heavy stoner. We were in the library one day when they brought the drug dogs to check out one of the hallways. He was carrying that day so he pulled a bag of weed out of his jacket and just ate it right on the spot.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Draugr on April 23, 2008, 05:42:53 pm
That is quite hilarious.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on April 23, 2008, 05:44:58 pm
I don't have any problems with school, besides some people not liking me I'm cool with it because I have a pretty good group of friends. I do have one question, what do you guys think about 13/14 year olds smoking weed?

I think they're being stupid. Same goes for drinking at that age. Taking things that mess up your thinking and judgment. It's hard enough to stay healthy without doing things to mess that up on purpose. You don't need to do drugs and it doesn't make you cool. 
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 23, 2008, 05:45:57 pm
Dip?
According to wikipedia the only thing I can imagine you're referring to is a weird type of snuff that you put in your mouth but don't chew. God knows, I wouldn't do it :P
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on April 23, 2008, 05:46:19 pm
I got a good one for you guys. My one friend is a heavy stoner. We were in the library one day when they brought the drug dogs to check out one of the hallways. He was carrying that day so he pulled a bag of weed out of his jacket and just ate it right on the spot.
Hah. wow...I'm surprised the dogs didn't catch the scent anyway. If they had though, then he'd not only be having problems with possession, but also with being under the influence.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on April 23, 2008, 05:56:00 pm
Dip is a tobacco that is placed in the bottom lip and just left there. Periodically the dipper spits out tobacco laced saliva, very nasty. It's very popular in Texas and I have an Uncle and two cousins who were bull riders and used dip all the time. It comes in a small round container that they carry in their back pocket.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on April 23, 2008, 06:31:26 pm
Never touched weed myself. But the fact that i know people who have since before i was born and it has had no adverse effects on them and the fact that it is legal in some places under some circumstances tells me its not harmful.

However i wouldn't say its self for people so young, I don't approve of young fold doing anything like that including smoking cigs or drinking.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on April 23, 2008, 07:50:13 pm
               In my hometown, it's called "nganga". They get a pinch of tobacco and a small mixture of different spices and wrap them around a small leaf, which they then chew. They then spit it out and it smells nasty. What's interesting is that some people say it makes your teeth stronger. :-\

               Weird.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on April 23, 2008, 10:47:16 pm
the only way I can see that happening is through the increased saliva output, which is actually good for teeth.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Danzik on April 23, 2008, 11:45:30 pm
Dip is a tobacco that is placed in the bottom lip and just left there. Periodically the dipper spits out tobacco laced saliva, very nasty. It's very popular in Texas and I have an Uncle and two cousins who were bull riders and used dip all the time. It comes in a small round container that they carry in their back pocket.
The thing about dip is that it rots that, after a time, the tobacco secretions rot the skin it's placed next to.

Alot of Marines used it when I was in, and a number of them had serious tooth/gum problems.  One of my friends could almost push the tip of his tongue through the skin below his lip.  It was disgusting.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on April 24, 2008, 02:44:36 am
Wow, you were a marine?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on April 24, 2008, 03:01:32 am
Weed isn't the same as LSD. Considering that C&H actually did a comic strip about Cannabis, that's just straightforward misinformation.

Perhaps because the cannibis one sucked?


Yeah, I never knew Danz was a marine either.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 24, 2008, 04:34:27 am
Weed isn't the same as LSD. Considering that C&H actually did a comic strip about Cannabis, that's just straightforward misinformation.

Perhaps because the cannibis one sucked?

I don't see how it could suck more than the LSD one.

I think the problem with teenagers today is their lower standards of entertainment. These Pokeyman sequel games and Emo Musics are deranging their brains and making them violent. I say we ban some things that kids love. That'll straighten them out.  ;)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 24, 2008, 09:38:08 am
Never touched weed myself. But the fact that i know people who have since before i was born and it has had no adverse effects on them and the fact that it is legal in some places under some circumstances tells me its not harmful.

However i wouldn't say its self for people so young, I don't approve of young fold doing anything like that including smoking cigs or drinking.

I used to agree, but one of my friend's boyfriends is utterly gone. You should bear in mind how much Marajuana he actually smokes before taking this to heart; but it has messed up his personality, destroyed his education and caused severe troubles in the privacy of said friend's bedroom.

But I think recreational use is fine. Also consuming it in Cookie form is awesome. But woe betide you smoke it in insane amounts.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on April 24, 2008, 11:04:27 am
Never touched weed myself. But the fact that i know people who have since before i was born and it has had no adverse effects on them and the fact that it is legal in some places under some circumstances tells me its not harmful.

However i wouldn't say its self for people so young, I don't approve of young fold doing anything like that including smoking cigs or drinking.

I used to agree, but one of my friend's boyfriends is utterly gone. You should bear in mind how much Marajuana he actually smokes before taking this to heart; but it has messed up his personality, destroyed his education and caused severe troubles in the privacy of said friend's bedroom.

But I think recreational use is fine. Also consuming it in Cookie form is awesome. But woe betide you smoke it in insane amounts.

Its possible. I don't know any one who uses its constantly in extreme amounts.

 Although it could be possible that that guy was doing other drugs along side weed. Thats ones of the biggest dangers of weed, You try weed and decided to get into some other drugs since weed didn't seem to have an adverse effect on you then you get addicted to the others drugs that are indeed dangerous.

But your are the one that knows him so you would have to tell me.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Draugr on April 24, 2008, 12:34:35 pm
Yea, as other people have pointed out, dipping is gross to those who have never done it, as you have to spit brown saliva into a container if you driving or indoors. I only like to it if I get a hold of some snus or pouches, which you don't have to spit with or if I'm playing football. Plus, if you swallow the saliva or dip, you will throw up.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Interitus on April 24, 2008, 09:24:39 pm
Chew/dip is nasty for everyone. Even if your outside there are disgusting pools of it. Forget stepping in it, the sight of a big puddle of it just makes me want to be sick.  Luckily I don't live near anyone who uses it anymore. In fact as much as I dislike smoking (lost my grandfather to throat cancer from it). I prefer it because Vancouver recently passed a bylaw requiring all smokers to stand 10 feet away from doors, windows and any air intake vents.

And while I've never used weed myself I've had to lower my views on people who do since I moved here. Mainly because many people do, on a very casual basis. And you wouldn't know it. But like it has been mentioned, those who I know who do use it constantly are very self destructive.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Hammerman58 on April 24, 2008, 09:43:33 pm
In my school all you see is people with bottles in their back pocket used for chew. Even a teacher keeps a chew bottle in his desk and offers it to students.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Draugr on April 26, 2008, 04:56:06 pm
I'm not sure if the teachers at my school are none the wiser, or are just looking the other way, but in almost every one of my class in a normal someone will be dipping. I never did it more than twice a week or so, but last week on the way home with a friend I put in three pouches of Skoal Mint after I hadn't dip in like two weeks, and so did my friend. We went to Sonic, and the buzz was kickin our asses. Now, let me just say this, while I am not the kind of person who generally changes when a pretty girl is around, I don't like letting any girl I'm even moderately attracted to know that I dip. So, anyone we are buzzin at Sonic and the sudden three girls from school pulled up beside us and started yellin for us to come over into their, so my friend spits out all three of his pouches and runs over cause he is totally tryin to get into one of the girl's pants, and I get pissed off cause he wasted the three pouches, and then out of the back of the girls' car leans the girl I had been talking to a lot (if it weren't for that one day we probably would be going out now). Shes sees me with my lip full and gets the most disgusted look on her face I have ever seen. The thing is I was buzzin so hard I could barely even go over to her and talk it out with her. I am still trying to get her to forgive me for that day and convince her I quit, which I did. I guess I just got what I deserved in the end. I'm sure if I was Christian I would believe it was God's way of getting me to stop, too bad I don't believe in the pleasant poetry of Christianity.   
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: huggkruka on April 26, 2008, 05:04:13 pm
On the first page there's an ad for Good Looking People's Club. Isn't that Family Guy? It looked serious here.  :(

Anyway, on topic, dip is disgusting. It's used a lot in Sweden, called snus(snuff)(at least it sounds like the same thing). A small paperish bag is put under the lip, giving a nicotin kick.  :-X  It's good in some ways, it can help you give up smoking, but at the same time it's disgusting and the little bags are everywhere. When the snuff users goes abroad, they have to bring supplies of it since it's not sold anywhere else and it's so addictive.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on April 26, 2008, 05:06:29 pm
I dont know if the kids at my school do dip but I know they do meth and heroin under the bleachers dubbed "drug corner"

I dont want anything to do with any drug in any form so I've stayed out of their way...gets pretty sad seeing them wacked out of their minds though

edit: I normally have crappy grades low B's and C's just noticed though I have 100-87 in all my classes at the moment...WOOT
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Danzik on April 26, 2008, 06:40:04 pm
I dont know if the kids at my school do dip but I know they do meth and heroin under the bleachers dubbed "drug corner"
Kaiser, are you in high school?  Either way it's still sad.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: PatMan33 on April 26, 2008, 06:43:58 pm
That's any public school! Nothing special.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Danzik on April 26, 2008, 06:45:57 pm
That's any public school! Nothing special.
:'(
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on April 26, 2008, 06:46:42 pm
well patman is right...

still is really despicable though
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Hammerman58 on April 26, 2008, 08:50:37 pm
Drugs are the same where i live. It may be a small town but most of the drugs that come to the area go through my town. I live near a big turnpike area. For such a rural area its pretty rampant. Their are federal agents and state police constantly watching for drugs. Not to long ago a person near my house died from a herion overdose. I dont know if anyone does the hard drugs in my school but weed and snuff are rampant. The other day another friend of mine brought a steam roller(a pot pipe) to school.

What are all the names do u people use for snuff? Dip, chew, snuff, and snuss are all used where I live.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Daxx on April 27, 2008, 12:41:42 am
Jeez, I knew that people smoked the odd spliff at school out back where no-one was watching, but meth and heroin? That's ****ed up right there.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on April 27, 2008, 07:47:22 am
To the extent of my knowledge, Marijuana is the only big thing at my school.

Though I did once find a syringe on the ground.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on April 27, 2008, 07:54:28 am
Smoking? Yeah, people at my school dig it.
Dipping? Nah they've never heard of it
Drugs? No, only "Sadoes" do drugs.


Pretty good seeing as I'm in Essex, retard central :-\
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on April 27, 2008, 08:35:35 pm
In year 10 or 11, can't remember now, during a graphics lesson, a couple of the other guys at our table would often discuss their little marijuana plantation. And I know that one of them is one of Perth's notable dealers. 
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on May 07, 2008, 07:03:38 pm
Alright, my mother is being a complete ass again.

She wants me to have all of the responsibilities of an adult, while being subservient like a child. She wants to have her cake and eat it too, leaving me with no cake. Just angry, angry crumbs.

I have to do everything short of physically paying her rent (My own laundry, prepare breakfast, lunch, and almost always dinner, buy everything of my own but food [Father helps with that] etc.); yet when she thinks I spoke with a tone to her, she sends my stepfather into my bedroom who manhandles everything electronic out. Recently she thought she would institute a "program" in which everyone does housework. In short, everyone has to do as much housework as her, but she's still in charge and doesn't even have a job. What happened to being a homemaker? She is, in essence, making us do her own job for her, while thinking we are still indebted.

Nothing has ever made me want to move out so badly. This crap just irks the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 07, 2008, 07:19:43 pm
I guess you've tried talking to her, which didn't work.  :-\ I dunno what you could do, short of move in with a friend or something.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 07, 2008, 07:48:49 pm
Do something spectacular for her on Mothers Day.
Then she might realize how much you love her and she might ease up and get her act together and become a better parent, most of all a better friend. Yeah the chances of her changing her dictator attitude are slim but it's worth a try on Sunday; put your efforts into this weekend if you'd like but it's still a slim chance.

Just trying to help, and you don't have to follow that idea.
Just a suggestion...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on May 07, 2008, 08:00:14 pm
She won't.

She doesn't know the meaning of reason or of diplomacy. She's right, everyone else is wrong, and my stepfather will back her up as fervently as bloated, mutant yes-man from the planet of superitorty.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 07, 2008, 08:14:00 pm
Well I tried...

But getting her off guard is a good way to start.
I'm not sure I can help anyway other than saying getting to know your parents is key to getting on their good side. Even if it kills you to try maybe you should take a liking to her interests and eventually you might learn that you both have something in common. That's just a take on how one out of the hundreds of scenarios that could happen so go with your gut feeling and do what feels right.

If anything don't try running away or moving in with a friend (it's not worth it and you're better than that I know for sure), unless the situation gets to intense and very undesirable for you. I doubt that calling social services or anything in the emergency services would help but counseling could; family counseling specifically speaking. Still, I hope the home life gets better for you my friend.

PS. it could just be mood swings or is she menopausal? possibly involved but it's just a thought, unless she acts like that all the time.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on May 07, 2008, 11:36:50 pm
               Hmmm, that is quite a problem.

               Its just a suggestion, but you could try and look at things in her perspective. Maybe you could find out more on how certain things can affect her mood. Try talking to her relatives or to people she knows. Maybe theres something that happened way back when that shaped her into the person she is today. Upbringing, relatives, work, friends or certain events in life. Dig up on some of her history, you might just find the right thing that could turn things around. And if all else fails, always look towards the future.

               Other than that, good luck, Brand.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 08, 2008, 06:20:03 am
She won't.

She doesn't know the meaning of reason or of diplomacy. She's right, everyone else is wrong, and my stepfather will back her up as fervently as bloated, mutant yes-man from the planet of superitorty.

That's part of being the mom. It sounds like she's teaching you responsibility and how to take care of yourself. When you do leave, you'll know how to cook and do laundry. Not what you want to hear but that's what I see. She'll be proud of you when you leave home and can do all those things. Parents are regular people too, they have ups and downs and problems like anyone else, they're not infallible or perfect and are flawed like anyone else. Maybe she feels stressed and unappreciated. Just because you don't have a day job doesn't meant you don't do a lot of work for everyone else. Taking care of a family is a lot of work. No one wants to be the one to cook and clean all the time, there is no fun in that at all. Try talking to her at a time when she's not in a bad mood. Maybe tell her how you feel and let her tell you how she feels. I hope it gets better.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 08, 2008, 07:20:21 am
But it doesn't seem like she's giving brandonazz's opinions or feelings the slightest consideration.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on May 08, 2008, 12:53:54 pm
LadyM, I already know how to do those things, and she knows it. She's doing this because she doesn't want to do it herself. She's probably stressed and feels like she doesn't get enough respect, [it's a recurring theme whenever she goes on one of these power trips] but that isn't any excuse. She should tell us with words, not take it out on us.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 08, 2008, 01:43:18 pm
I'm sorry you're having such a hard time, you know better than I do what happens in your own house. Communication is a big problem between teens and parents.  :-\ Respect should happen both ways.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on May 08, 2008, 01:45:30 pm
I'll get over my anger soon enough. She usually gets over these mass power demonstrations in a week or two.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 08, 2008, 01:51:59 pm
Probably a bad idea but when I lived with my mother she would try to make me do everything for her (mind you not cooking since my cooking will kill you) and every time I tried to speak out she would leave me to keep the house in working order while she went out to her boyfriends house for weeks at a time. When she and her boyfriend started fighting she then turned to taking away my electronics but of course mental instability is a funny thing and told me to persevere and to this day I have never had to do anything for my mom since nothing she does to me will matter. (of course I live with father now and I do the chores since he respects what I do and shares the work)


Probably not going to help since my little war on her made her boyfriend actually get my gameboy SP and nintendo 64

but that is always an option if you have no other options and are fed up
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 08, 2008, 01:54:09 pm
No offence, but your mom seriously sounds like a complete ass, Kaiser.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 08, 2008, 01:55:03 pm
none taken I'm still looking for a hitman ways to make her life more pathetic
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 08, 2008, 01:57:59 pm
I'm pretty sure forcing her to move to Southend in the poor districts would be revenge enough.

Or maybe thats too harsh. I'd give her five months until she starts having her house literaly coated in drugs?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 08, 2008, 02:00:31 pm
 :D
she just got lime disease

 ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D


(fyi: if any of you think I'm horrible for hating her...she was ordered by the court to take me out at least once a week...that was over 9 months ago and I'm still waiting)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 08, 2008, 02:03:36 pm
You are a complete ass, Kaizer.

I like you.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 08, 2008, 02:05:09 pm
I hope she has a near death expeirance and sees that she screwed you and your family's life up badly and she wants to make amends.

And if she doesn't then I don't blame you for changing your name.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Serdun on May 08, 2008, 02:47:28 pm
Mother's Day is on Sunday!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Hammerman58 on May 08, 2008, 02:57:02 pm
Hey another instance of drugs in my school. 6 people were suspended for using Xanex or some spelling of it. Anyhow the dealer is going to juvie and got 10 day school suspension for dealing the drugs so is her mother because the girl lied and said her mother gave her the pills. 4 people got suspended for using the drugs and buying them in school and 1 of those girls over dosed by taking like 8 time what you should take. Also 1 girl was suspended for 3 days for saying she was going to kill this one girl who told the principal a lot of information after the 5 girls were busted. The 5 girls got 3 day suspensions. The funny part is the one girl was the dealer got busted because she was dealing in English class in front of the teacher and she was counting her money.

Boy ain't high school fun ;D !!

I did my best to try and not make that confusing. I didn't want to use their name and it was hard to type with out them .
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on May 08, 2008, 06:41:16 pm
Well, at least she ODed xanax and not tylenol..
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 08, 2008, 06:42:06 pm
... Uh... That's just sad. ODing on a over the counter drug like Xanex.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 08, 2008, 10:35:45 pm
You know what sucks? when you try to attract the attention of a girl in your class but you only succeed in attracting the attention of her friend.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: PatMan33 on May 08, 2008, 10:37:21 pm
Getting in with the friends can be a good way to get closer to your true target. I think the Spice Girls said something about that once.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 08, 2008, 10:41:51 pm
Getting in with the friends can be a good way to get closer to your true target. I think the Spice Girls said something about that once.

*If you wanna be my lover you gotta get with my friends. Love lasts forever friendship never eeeennnnddds.

Don't look at me like that.... >:(
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: PatMan33 on May 08, 2008, 10:45:39 pm
Hey, I'm not looking at you. Spice World has its merits.

Actually also (I can't believe I'm pointing this out), you got the lyrics wrong.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 08, 2008, 10:53:42 pm
Hey, I'm not looking at you. Spice World has its merits.

Actually also (I can't believe I'm pointing this out), you got the lyrics wrong.

*looks it up*

Oh its *make it last forever friendship never ends*...doh...

So uh ..pat ..were pretty manly huh?.

Hmm..i don't actually have any teen problems so i better mosey on out of this thread...

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: PatMan33 on May 08, 2008, 10:59:23 pm
Bah, say what you will, there's nothing wrong with knowing and enjoying that stuff. Heck, in my experience my knowledge Sex and the City has gone over quite well with members of the opposite sex. The fact that I also happen to love the show is just a bonus for me. I can't wait for the movie! :)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on May 09, 2008, 08:36:15 pm
Pat doesn't have anything to prove. His masculinity is a natural premise

*Wipes nose thoroughly*
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on May 10, 2008, 01:00:26 pm
You know what sucks? when you try to attract the attention of a girl in your class but you only succeed in attracting the attention of her friend.
Be happy that someone is actually attracted to you.

Although, actually, at the moment, I want no girl attracted to me. It's not that I'm going out of my way to ensure that, but I'm not actively trying to encourage girls to like me. I don't really care that much, honestly..
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 10, 2008, 01:14:06 pm
You know what sucks? when you try to attract the attention of a girl in your class but you only succeed in attracting the attention of her friend.


Why do you want to attract the attention of a girl in your class?

If things go sour you'll have to deal with her the whole school year  :P

If you want to attract a girl's attention, just compliment her and then go from there =}
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 10, 2008, 01:15:58 pm
The girl I'm trying to get with is pissed at me.

I am SO good at women! Ugh....
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 10, 2008, 01:19:27 pm
The sick girl or another girl?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 10, 2008, 01:23:19 pm
The sick one. And yea, they figured out that she DOES have cancer...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 10, 2008, 01:25:22 pm
Thats bad. :(

What kind, is it the kind that you can cure by surgery or is that bader kind where you have to be exposed to rediculous amounts of radiation?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 10, 2008, 01:27:10 pm
Lung cancer. Apparently, they can treat it, but it's hard and dangerous.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 10, 2008, 01:31:25 pm
I had a lung infection a year ago, but the only bad thing about it was the cracking in my chest at night and I was more likely to die from sleep deprivation than the infection.


When you're diagnosed with cancer, you're basicly screwed, you either die or are seriously effected by it, or you die or are seriously affected by the treatement. The seriously effected in the former is usualy living the rest of your life stuffed with radioactive energy, or the loss of limbs. Unless theres no problems other than the loss of hair. No way am I shaving off my 'stauch, I spent 3 years on this thing.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 10, 2008, 01:33:22 pm
heh 3 years....i been grooming mine for 5 so its a bigger loss to me
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 10, 2008, 01:35:33 pm
Well, are you sure you want a girl who's in quite a edgy phase of her life? =\

Even if she likes you - which we have no idea - she'll be sick for quite some time and we have no idea if, your feelings for her, if you have any, will survive until her recovery.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 10, 2008, 01:37:02 pm
My facial hair is bigger and grows faster thanks to my Viking heritage and my family having lower body fat for some reason so we are generally more hairy. Except for the females where everyone can not have a haircut until they're eight and still have shortish hair.


Anyway DoctorZ, hope she turns out alright. All your work would into chatting her up would be ruined if she died. :(
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 10, 2008, 01:38:29 pm
I think it has something to do with my liking women in distress. I kind of have a daddy-complex.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 10, 2008, 01:40:50 pm
She might start to like you weeks before her treatment. Maybe she'll realise that she might as well spend her possible last days with a boyfreind, unless she has a different reaction which she probably will because I am no expert on girls. We need LadyM for this.

The odd hug may help.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 10, 2008, 01:51:21 pm
I think it has something to do with my liking women in distress. I kind of have a daddy-complex.


I think most guys have that ' protect the lady' impuse. The more the female is at distress, the more we want to help her out. To look good, I guess :P



I hate facial hair too =\.

 Mine grows fast <.<
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 10, 2008, 01:52:59 pm
Yea, I know. But my daddy-complex is REALLY developed.

So much so that most of my relationships turn into the "Daddy/Baby-girl" variety.

I try to hug her. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 10, 2008, 02:02:40 pm
Complicated issue.  You must think of how much your life will be affected if you develop a relationship with that kind of female. It might make the 'daddy' complex to at least cool down enough for you to not get involved. You're not a shrink, you can't really help them. Only they can help themselves, them and professional doctors.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 10, 2008, 04:11:05 pm
... Uh... That's just sad. ODing on a over the counter drug like Xanex.
Xanax isn't over the counter, it's prescription and very hard to get, even in Mexico.

We need LadyM for this.
Someone wants my advice? cool.  :) Be her friend and don't try for anything more. Anyone who is sick needs a friend and someone who cares. Don't put pressure on anything but don't run away because she is sick. If things go bad, it will hurt a lot later but you'll have memories. If she gets better, she'll be thankful to have had a good friend and who knows, it might turn into more. The best relationships are built on a good friendship. Remember, you can't "fix" her so don't try. Just be there to listen.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 10, 2008, 04:21:25 pm
I know all that. I don't put pressure on her... well, I try not to. And I definitely wont run away.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 10, 2008, 08:22:55 pm
Actually LadyM, while your still here, how would I go about getting this chick to at least talk to me? We have the exact same phone, and same brand of sunnies (Ray-Ban ftw!) so there are conversation starters available, but actually initiating conversation is the hard bit. Damn it, I wish this was 60 years ago, so she could leave her glove behind then I could go and give it back to her.  >:(

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 10, 2008, 08:30:45 pm
Well, I found out the problem!

Apparently, I told people that me and her were going out already, and I don't believe her about the cancer, and that I think she's only doing it for attention! I never said any of that. In fact, the only person I even talked to her about was to a friend named Dustin, and only about how she was mad at me.

So, I told her that. And she doesn't believe me, at least I'm pretty sure she doesn't. I asked her to do me a favor, and that is for her to not believe what she hears about me in the future. Her response? "I may, may not."

She's as fickle as a southern colloquialism makes no sense!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: 762 on May 10, 2008, 08:44:59 pm
Actually LadyM, while your still here, how would I go about getting this chick to at least talk to me? We have the exact same phone, and same brand of sunnies (Ray-Ban ftw!) so there are conversation starters available, but actually initiating conversation is the hard bit. Damn it, I wish this was 60 years ago, so she could leave her glove behind then I could go and give it back to her.  >:(

I assume you have at least one class together? Just ask her a simple question to break the ice and then start talking to her. It's really much simpler than you make it out to be. I've done this with many people*, including many girls, and it works. Ask if you can borrow her pencil one day, the next ask her if she could help you with something, the next say hi to her in the hall, the next have a conversation with her. It seems like it will never work, but it will. If you're too nervous, practice on a girl that you aren't interested in.

*I should point out that I'm not bisexual, my intent was mainly to be friendly and more extroverted.
Title: My life is over :'C
Post by: SporeGames on May 10, 2008, 11:31:29 pm
I think I’m having a moment, everything is crashing around me this has been one of the happiest times of my life and it’s all coming to an end. Saturday morning cartoons lost there fun, videogames don’t please me. My Saturday night pilgrimages to borders lost there magic and my dads going to be the father of my half-sister. On top of that my trademark eagle bone necklace has broken (I’ve NEVER taken it off EVER) my moms house is getting remolded we have new person living here. On top of that I just finished watching Bicentennial Man one of which’s messages are change is inevitable. And the forum games I've come to love have  all but died. MY LIFE IS BEING DESTROYED!!! :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: My life is over :'C
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 11, 2008, 12:13:53 am
Which general area do you live in? There is absolutely no way you can live in a worse place then me, where everyone will swear at you and punch you in the face should you barely touch their soldier should you be passing them in the street, where people will steal your TV and then the next day they will tell you how nice it is. Of course the police don't lift a finger and care more about insurance fraud, just while people take crack in the streets and throw things at passers by, and you can't do anything about it because they always hang around and if you get one on your own, they say "I'll get mah dad/mate on you". Stupid bastards.

In general, there is absolutly no way you have a worse life than me, killing yourself because nothing seems fun anymore is plain retarded. It's one of the facts of modern life, you're not a kid anymore, you're now living in a bland, boring world. Why don't you get a job or something?
Title: Re: My life is over :'C
Post by: Danzik on May 11, 2008, 12:21:36 am
Everyone has times when things just don't seem like fun anymore or too many things just seem to be going wrong to handle.  Just give it time and have some patience.  Like you said, change in inevitable.
Title: Re: My life is over :'C
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on May 11, 2008, 12:38:09 am
Whenever somebody says there life has problems they forget that somewhere, someone else's life is all ways worse. Problems suck, but its something you need to over come personally. Yesterday I was really depressed to, lots of family problems and I kept screwing things up, but you can really get over anything. Its a matter of perspective and discipline. I recommend posting this in the "How do you look at life?" or "Teenage Problem" thread.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 01:14:15 am
Actually LadyM, while your still here, how would I go about getting this chick to at least talk to me? We have the exact same phone, and same brand of sunnies (Ray-Ban ftw!) so there are conversation starters available, but actually initiating conversation is the hard bit. Damn it, I wish this was 60 years ago, so she could leave her glove behind then I could go and give it back to her.  >:(




You can start by not refering to her as "chick". She's not a chiken.. Girls do not like that and respect goes a long way. Everybody loves respect. Especially the ladies.


Well, it's not that hard. All you have to do is to talk about your phone since she has the same brand.


What kind of girl is she?

Girly girl?

tom boy girl?

Casual girl?


In any case, you start it all with casual talk. Small talk. Trivial things like how what she does for a living, which school she goes to etc. The key here is comfortable. The more a girl is comfortable with you, the more open she is to your advances. But I would advice to start it all off, with the intent of friendship. that way you don't get dissapointed if things don't go like you want them to go and you build the foundations for a strong, durable relationship.

if you are just interested in casual dating, you need to find out what this girl wants in terms of a private life. Either she wants a relationship or not. As long as both of you are in the same page, everything is fine.

And mate. It's all about self - confidence. Present yourself with confidence, in yourself and chances are, she might see you with good eyes.


One last thing.

Most guys never figure this out, no matter how many years they live and how many girlfriends they have. Luckly, I was born gifted  :P so I'll give you this very precious advice on how to deal with girls, when you are in a relationship with them:


Talk to them. Really talk to them.

Be open about your feelings. Share them. What women love the most is an emotional bound with their partners. They crave for it like teenager boys crave for video games. What happens when your lot gets to play video games?

What's the result?

That's the same result women get when they have a good communication(communication #1 rule of relationships).

They win, you win.

When they are happy, they make you happy.


And don't forget about romance.

Now. Relationships require A LOT of work. You need to constantly feed it's circuits with gentle energy of romance, friendship, caring etc.

It is, the most demanding profession in the world, to be a partner. But... it is also, the best job in the world :)


Good luck.

 :-* :P


And yes, I'm the young version of Dr. Phil  ::) :P
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SporeGames on May 11, 2008, 01:16:02 am
Bah, say what you will, there's nothing wrong with knowing and enjoying that stuff. Heck, in my experience my knowledge Sex and the City has gone over quite well with members of the opposite sex. The fact that I also happen to love the show is just a bonus for me. I can't wait for the movie! :)

OMG theres a movie?(does wiki check)OMG theres a movie!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 01:20:46 am
Sex and the city is a good example on how many relationships, are pretty much messed up, lol. I don't get it, I mean. What's fun about that. ??? ::)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on May 11, 2008, 01:36:35 am
                  Just remember, when in a conversation, always give her time to say what she wants. They want to be comfortable with being around you and one of the steps to achieving this is through letting her speak out whats in her mind/feelings. The key to a good friendship is trust and communication. :)

Whenever somebody says there life has problems they forget that somewhere, someone else's life is all ways worse.
                                   
                  Sadly, this is quite true. And to add to this, I actually know a place where if you're a boy and you just happen to be walking by with your girl friends (not girlfriends.) who lives there, be prepared to run as fast as you can because they will try and shoot you because they think you're hitting on your friends, which they claim to be "their's". As far as I know, there have already been three or more deaths there. The killer hasn't been found. But judging by how things go there, you could guess who did it. Pretty screwed up if you ask me. :(
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 01:47:19 am
What? :o they shoot people because they think the fella is doing a move on their friends? :o
Title: Re: My life is over :'C
Post by: SporeGames on May 11, 2008, 01:54:58 am
Which general area do you live in? There is absolutely no way you can live in a worse place then me, where everyone will swear at you and punch you in the face should you barely touch their soldier should you be passing them in the street, where people will steal your TV and then the next day they will tell you how nice it is. Of course the police don't lift a finger and care more about insurance fraud, just while people take crack in the streets and throw things at passers by, and you can't do anything about it because they always hang around and if you get one on your own, they say "I'll get mah dad/mate on you". Stupid bastards.

In general, there is absolutly no way you have a worse life than me, killing yourself because nothing seems fun anymore is plain retarded. It's one of the facts of modern life, you're not a kid anymore, you're now living in a bland, boring world. Why don't you get a job or something?


Thiis is especialy hard on me becuse I am what you would call "Extra-Human" and if the police don't lift a finger why don't you go Punisher on there asses
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 02:08:05 am
Extra - human? why, do you have 2 bodies?

Or just looking for attention ?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on May 11, 2008, 02:17:22 am
What? :o they shoot people because they think the fella is doing a move on their friends? :o

Yup. And apparently, that place is a criminal's paradise. I usually don't walk when I go out because here, people don't stick a gun at you and ask for your money. Here they just outright stab/shoot/kill you then get your belongings. The fun part is that the police are usually involved in these things. If you ever complain at the station, chances are they'll "take you out", just in case you might have discovered some info regarding their "deals" with the local drug dealers/snatchers. Its really hard to find an officer that you can trust these days. :( Well, at least here. lol. This place sucks, though I'm sure some places are worse than this.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 02:19:33 am
man, I hope you get out of there as soon as you can. I'm always paranoid(seriously) whenever I'm outside of my house, during the night, I can't imagine what's it like to live in that place.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SporeGames on May 11, 2008, 02:23:11 am
Extra - human? why, do you have 2 bodies?

Or just looking for attention ?
My mind has delpd to the point wer I can
a. read peoplkes emotions unless they make a consou efort to block them
b. see past ruses and falsitie sothe rpeoiple are affected by
c. free my min dof ALL limtion sto the point wgre I can make things so of the wall it's insane
d. My cretive capcity is so hgigh i have 16 seson sof on eparticular show of a 20 yer ;ong channel all in my head i hav ealso composed rock songs in my head in minutes and have wriiten entire story arc sof rpgs/comics/etc. in seconds(in my head)
e. i am immune from most guilt
f. i have an I.Q. of 160
g. ive designed an neire star strek-esque tv show complet with  20+ sesons/spin offs nultiple movies both animated an live action along with an entire movie francise erly today
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 11, 2008, 02:25:24 am
Extra - human? why, do you have 2 bodies?

Or just looking for attention ?
My mind has delpd to the point wer I can
a. read peoplkes emotions unless they make a consou efort to block them
b. see past ruses and falsitie sothe rpeoiple are affected by
c. free my min dof ALL limtion sto the point wgre I can make things so of the wall it's insane
d. My cretive capcity is so hgigh i have 16 seson sof on eparticular show of a 20 yer ;ong channel all in my head i hav ealso composed rock songs in my head in minutes and have wriiten entire story arc sof rpgs/comics/etc. in seconds(in my head)
e. i am immune from most guilt
f. i have an I.Q. of 160
g. ive designed an neire star strek-esque tv show complet with  20+ sesons/spin offs nultiple movies both animated an live action along with an entire movie francise erly today

So....

I really don't see what your getting at, you feel bored because you have high IQ? Does not compute.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 02:26:48 am
This is the teen Problem discussion. Not the  -  a super - man epic imagination - kind of thread.

Not that I don't believe you. Of course. :)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SporeGames on May 11, 2008, 02:30:40 am
Extra - human? why, do you have 2 bodies?

Or just looking for attention ?
My mind has delpd to the point wer I can
a. read peoplkes emotions unless they make a consou efort to block them
b. see past ruses and falsitie sothe rpeoiple are affected by
c. free my min dof ALL limtion sto the point wgre I can make things so of the wall it's insane
d. My cretive capcity is so hgigh i have 16 seson sof on eparticular show of a 20 yer ;ong channel all in my head i hav ealso composed rock songs in my head in minutes and have wriiten entire story arc sof rpgs/comics/etc. in seconds(in my head)
e. i am immune from most guilt
f. i have an I.Q. of 160
g. ive designed an neire star strek-esque tv show complet with  20+ sesons/spin offs nultiple movies both animated an live action along with an entire movie francise erly today

So....

I really don't see what your getting at, you feel bored because you have high IQ? Does not compute.

Obviosluy you havent read anything i said
This is the teen Problem discussion. Not the  -  a super - man epic imagination - kind of thread.

Not that I don't believe you. Of course. :)
super - teen epic imagination
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 02:34:49 am
Alright then. But, would you be kind enough to start your own "Epic teen imagination" and leave this thread to it's original purpose  :-* ?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 11, 2008, 02:35:49 am
Extra - human? why, do you have 2 bodies?

Or just looking for attention ?
My mind has delpd to the point wer I can
a. read peoplkes emotions unless they make a consou efort to block them
b. see past ruses and falsitie sothe rpeoiple are affected by
c. free my min dof ALL limtion sto the point wgre I can make things so of the wall it's insane
d. My cretive capcity is so hgigh i have 16 seson sof on eparticular show of a 20 yer ;ong channel all in my head i hav ealso composed rock songs in my head in minutes and have wriiten entire story arc sof rpgs/comics/etc. in seconds(in my head)
e. i am immune from most guilt
f. i have an I.Q. of 160
g. ive designed an neire star strek-esque tv show complet with  20+ sesons/spin offs nultiple movies both animated an live action along with an entire movie francise erly today

So....

I really don't see what your getting at, you feel bored because you have high IQ? Does not compute.

Obviosluy you havent read anything i said


Seriosuly, I can't see how any of those traits could make you feel like you want to kill yourself. Stop whinning.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 02:40:17 am
Plank of wood:

You can't see, true.

You can't also see that that guy has none of those attributes.

Do you think someone with an IQ of 160 would write like that? Do you have any idea what an IQ of 160 is? lol. Only a handful of humans have an IQ of 160 and those don't quite really write or come up with the kind of talk that fella comes up.

What he's doing is quite easy to understand. He's saying all that stuff, to get attention.

You get it now?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 11, 2008, 02:43:04 am
I thought the IQ was complete BS, but a few of the others seemed reasonable.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 02:46:38 am
Quote
My mind has delpd to the point wer I can
a. read peoplkes emotions unless they make a consou efort to block them
b. see past ruses and falsitie sothe rpeoiple are affected by
c. free my min dof ALL limtion sto the point wgre I can make things so of the wall it's insane
d. My cretive capcity is so hgigh i have 16 seson sof on eparticular show of a 20 yer ;ong channel all in my head i hav ealso composed rock songs in my head in minutes and have wriiten entire story arc sof rpgs/comics/etc. in seconds(in my head)
e. i am immune from most guilt
g. ive designed an neire star strek-esque tv show complet with  20+ sesons/spin offs nultiple movies both animated an live action along with an entire movie francise erly today



Only option E would be possible and you don't need to be an Einstein to achieve that.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 11, 2008, 02:49:43 am
B is easy if everyone is like me, starts laughing for no reason why I lie. And C is possible, hell a lot of people can do it, give me 5 minutes in the bathroom and I can come up with a story line for a film trilogy.

G is complete crap though, if would did come up with a 20+ season tv show, why are you mingling with us when you could be swimming in a pool of cash?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: B.A.S. on May 11, 2008, 02:50:24 am
I find talking to Women and others in general is reletively easy. I think the most important thing you have to remember is, Women are Humans to there not some sort of anomaly that requires a different strategy. Talk to Women, you dont have to be a smooth talker some Women find it cute when you arent the best speaker out there. But most of all be fun and humourous thats what will make you different than the other guys (Its worked wonders for me). I dont know what else to say, how to strike a conversation? Simple maybe pair up with her for something, ask to borrow a pencil and give it to her later. Dont know what else to suggest at 2:48 in the morning.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SporeGames on May 11, 2008, 02:51:49 am
Alright then. But, would you be kind enough to start your own "Epic teen imagination" and leave this thread to it's original purpose  :-* ?
i meant sense you siad this was for teen agst and i am a teen(although super) and i have angst
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 02:52:44 am
B is easy if everyone is like me, starts laughing for no reason why I lie. And C is possible, hell a lot of people can do it, give me 5 minutes in the bathroom and I can come up with a story line for a film trilogy.

G is complete crap though, if would did come up with a 20+ season tv show, why are you mingling with us when you could be swimming in a pool of cash?

B is possible now that I take a better look at it but C, he's saying "No limits". There are limits for everything.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SporeGames on May 11, 2008, 02:53:30 am
Extra - human? why, do you have 2 bodies?

Or just looking for attention ?
My mind has delpd to the point wer I can
a. read peoplkes emotions unless they make a consou efort to block them
b. see past ruses and falsitie sothe rpeoiple are affected by
c. free my min dof ALL limtion sto the point wgre I can make things so of the wall it's insane
d. My cretive capcity is so hgigh i have 16 seson sof on eparticular show of a 20 yer ;ong channel all in my head i hav ealso composed rock songs in my head in minutes and have wriiten entire story arc sof rpgs/comics/etc. in seconds(in my head)
e. i am immune from most guilt
f. i have an I.Q. of 160
g. ive designed an neire star strek-esque tv show complet with  20+ sesons/spin offs nultiple movies both animated an live action along with an entire movie francise erly today

So....

I really don't see what your getting at, you feel bored because you have high IQ? Does not compute.

Obviosluy you havent read anything i said


Seriosuly, I can't see how any of those traits could make you feel like you want to kill yourself. Stop whinning.


again you did not reda all my posts a an extr-human I can see the values of suicide insted of having the 'normie" reaction of OH NOES K11LING EES BAD!!!1111!!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SporeGames on May 11, 2008, 02:55:14 am
Plank of wood:

You can't see, true.

You can't also see that that guy has none of those attributes.

Do you think someone with an IQ of 160 would write like that? Do you have any idea what an IQ of 160 is? lol. Only a handful of humans have an IQ of 160 and those don't quite really write or come up with the kind of talk that fella comes up.

What he's doing is quite easy to understand. He's saying all that stuff, to get attention.

You get it now?

typing skills have NOTHING to do with intelgence they have EVEYTING to do with PSATIENCE,DISECPL;NE AND WORK ETHIC and i am lackin gon those impropper litery skils are actully quite common in geniousess

B is easy if everyone is like me, starts laughing for no reason why I lie. And C is possible, hell a lot of people can do it, give me 5 minutes in the bathroom and I can come up with a story line for a film trilogy.

G is complete crap though, if would did come up with a 20+ season tv show, why are you mingling with us when you could be swimming in a pool of cash?
same reason i cant type properly , laziness, forgetfulness, and  gneral difficulty confering my thoughts to the 'Non-Me Land" world.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 11, 2008, 02:57:18 am
Extra - human? why, do you have 2 bodies?

Or just looking for attention ?
My mind has delpd to the point wer I can
a. read peoplkes emotions unless they make a consou efort to block them
b. see past ruses and falsitie sothe rpeoiple are affected by
c. free my min dof ALL limtion sto the point wgre I can make things so of the wall it's insane
d. My cretive capcity is so hgigh i have 16 seson sof on eparticular show of a 20 yer ;ong channel all in my head i hav ealso composed rock songs in my head in minutes and have wriiten entire story arc sof rpgs/comics/etc. in seconds(in my head)
e. i am immune from most guilt
f. i have an I.Q. of 160
g. ive designed an neire star strek-esque tv show complet with  20+ sesons/spin offs nultiple movies both animated an live action along with an entire movie francise erly today

So....

I really don't see what your getting at, you feel bored because you have high IQ? Does not compute.

Obviosluy you havent read anything i said


Seriosuly, I can't see how any of those traits could make you feel like you want to kill yourself. Stop whinning.


again you did not reda all my posts a an extr-human I can see the values of suicide insted of having the 'normie" reaction of OH NOES K11LING EES BAD!!!1111!!

You did not say that in any way, if you did, quote it, and don't worry, I'll know if you edited it ;)


Fine, kill yourself, if you think you're so much better than us because you're "special", even though if you were as smart as you said you were you'd at least try to use decent grammer, or take the time to type out a decent post. I have read all your posts and you're just trying to make me look bad by implying I ignore all of your posts as if I'm a troll.

Bad memory and lazyness have nothing to do with typing skills, your "Intellegance" means nothing if no-one understands you.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 02:57:39 am
Oh yes, Einstein wrote like a 3 year old.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 11, 2008, 03:00:04 am
Oh yes, Einstein wrote like a 3 year old.

Zing! *high fives*
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on May 11, 2008, 03:01:44 am
Warning - while you were typing 15 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post. :P


               Anyway, don't worry guys about back then. I'm used to this kinda thing. It wasn't really like this back in the 90's, when I was about 5. It probably has something to do with the entire country's current condition. :-\ With all the corruption going on in the local and national scene. Try picturing GTA then apply it to the government here. That about sums things up. :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/World_Map_Index_of_perception_of_corruption.png

               Look for the human shaped thing near China. That's my country. It is currently listed as the #1 most corrupt country in the world, surpassing China just last year, making China #2.

               If only the government wasn't so obviously corrupt, as in someone in the first family covering the smuggling operations down at SMBA and the DOA stealing the money which was supposed to be used for the farmers' fertilizers. I mean, the farmers here have been working the fields since Spanish occupation, which was over 300 years ago, and they still don't get to own it because of the DAR's slowness. One of the former presidents here own an extremely large Hacienda (they provide a large percentage of the capital region's supply of sugar.) and they seem to be immune to the Dept. of Agrarian Reform's agenda. It's just insane, it's almost unrealistic. Ridiculous. :P It's sucks so much that the local movie industry actually made a movie for it. :P No kidding.

               If it weren't for that, I would actually stay here. But things aren't looking pretty bright and I'm not one to risk my safety in case they try and declare martial law, again. So yup, once I'm able to support myself, I'll be leaving.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 11, 2008, 03:04:06 am
Move to Australia! When I'm old enough I move there. I want to be as far away as possible from Essex at this current point in time.

Wait, you live in Burma?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 03:05:33 am
I complain about my country, all the time. Compared to UE countries like Sweden, Germany, denmark etc, we are a third world country but I do really need to open my eyes because this is selfish of me. I bet you don't whine half as much as I do, and you live under those conditions. I must give it to you, I don't know if I could handle all of that.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SporeGames on May 11, 2008, 03:10:55 am
Extra - human? why, do you have 2 bodies?

Or just looking for attention ?
My mind has delpd to the point wer I can
a. read peoplkes emotions unless they make a consou efort to block them
b. see past ruses and falsitie sothe rpeoiple are affected by
c. free my min dof ALL limtion sto the point wgre I can make things so of the wall it's insane
d. My cretive capcity is so hgigh i have 16 seson sof on eparticular show of a 20 yer ;ong channel all in my head i hav ealso composed rock songs in my head in minutes and have wriiten entire story arc sof rpgs/comics/etc. in seconds(in my head)
e. i am immune from most guilt
f. i have an I.Q. of 160
g. ive designed an neire star strek-esque tv show complet with  20+ sesons/spin offs nultiple movies both animated an live action along with an entire movie francise erly today

So....

I really don't see what your getting at, you feel bored because you have high IQ? Does not compute.

Obviosluy you havent read anything i said


Seriosuly, I can't see how any of those traits could make you feel like you want to kill yourself. Stop whinning.


again you did not reda all my posts a an extr-human I can see the values of suicide insted of having the 'normie" reaction of OH NOES K11LING EES BAD!!!1111!!

You did not say that in any way, if you did, quote it, and don't worry, I'll know if you edited it ;)


Fine, kill yourself, if you think you're so much better than us because you're "special", even though if you were as smart as you said you were you'd at least try to use decent grammer, or take the time to type out a decent post. I have read all your posts and you're just trying to make me look bad by implying I ignore all of your posts as if I'm a troll.

Bad memory and lazyness have nothing to do with typing skills, your "Intellegance" means nothing if no-one understands you.

Don't you think I know that , dont you think it haunts me every day of my goddam life to have and inteligence on par with einstein and yet be unable to utilze it and create solid effect, you dont think i dont feel the pain when i have to physicaly strain my fingers to move fast enough to type? You dont think that I dont cry becuse people make fun of how I shake pencils and twigs. You dont think it annoy sme when people dont let me borrow there pencils because I'd 'eat them" well it does and until you walk a mile in my shoes i dont want nay more crap from you

this line :
again you did not reda all my posts a an extr-human I can see the values of suicide insted of having the 'normie" reaction of OH NOES K11LING EES BAD!!!1111!!

was menat to be twodifernt points

again you did not reda all my posts.
 a an extr-human I can see the values of suicide insted of having the 'normie" reaction of OH NOES K11LING EES BAD!!!1111!!

Oh yes, Einstein wrote like a 3 year old.

He did.

Warning - while you were typing 15 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post. :P


               Anyway, don't worry guys about back then. I'm used to this kinda thing. It wasn't really like this back in the 90's, when I was about 5. It probably has something to do with the entire country's current condition. :-\ With all the corruption going on in the local and national scene. Try picturing GTA then apply it to the government here. That about sums things up. :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/World_Map_Index_of_perception_of_corruption.png

               Look for the human shaped thing near China. That's my country. It is currently listed as the #1 most corrupt country in the world, surpassing China just last year, making China #2.

               If only the government wasn't so obviously corrupt, as in someone in the first family covering the smuggling operations down at SMBA and the DOA stealing the money which was supposed to be used for the farmers' fertilizers. I mean, the farmers here have been working the fields since Spanish occupation, which was over 300 years ago, and they still don't get to own it because of the DAR's slowness. One of the former presidents here own an extremely large Hacienda (they provide a large percentage of the capital region's supply of sugar.) and they seem to be immune to the Dept. of Agrarian Reform's agenda. It's just insane, it's almost unrealistic. Ridiculous. :P It's sucks so much that the local movie industry actually made a movie for it. :P No kidding.

               If it weren't for that, I would actually stay here. But things aren't looking pretty bright and I'm not one to risk my safety in case they try and declare martial law, again. So yup, once I'm able to support myself, I'll be leaving.

Immune to guilt. Remember? Besides comparing our problems is liek apple and oranges. when you get deep enough how do you kno wthsi stuff doesnt affect me as much as Buram sucking affect you?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 11, 2008, 03:19:34 am
Extra - human? why, do you have 2 bodies?

Or just looking for attention ?
My mind has delpd to the point wer I can
a. read peoplkes emotions unless they make a consou efort to block them
b. see past ruses and falsitie sothe rpeoiple are affected by
c. free my min dof ALL limtion sto the point wgre I can make things so of the wall it's insane
d. My cretive capcity is so hgigh i have 16 seson sof on eparticular show of a 20 yer ;ong channel all in my head i hav ealso composed rock songs in my head in minutes and have wriiten entire story arc sof rpgs/comics/etc. in seconds(in my head)
e. i am immune from most guilt
f. i have an I.Q. of 160
g. ive designed an neire star strek-esque tv show complet with  20+ sesons/spin offs nultiple movies both animated an live action along with an entire movie francise erly today

So....

I really don't see what your getting at, you feel bored because you have high IQ? Does not compute.

Obviosluy you havent read anything i said


Seriosuly, I can't see how any of those traits could make you feel like you want to kill yourself. Stop whinning.


again you did not reda all my posts a an extr-human I can see the values of suicide insted of having the 'normie" reaction of OH NOES K11LING EES BAD!!!1111!!

You did not say that in any way, if you did, quote it, and don't worry, I'll know if you edited it ;)


Fine, kill yourself, if you think you're so much better than us because you're "special", even though if you were as smart as you said you were you'd at least try to use decent grammer, or take the time to type out a decent post. I have read all your posts and you're just trying to make me look bad by implying I ignore all of your posts as if I'm a troll.

Bad memory and lazyness have nothing to do with typing skills, your "Intellegance" means nothing if no-one understands you.

Don't you think I know that , dont you think it haunts me every day of my goddam life to have and inteligence on par with einstein and yet be unable to utilze it and create solid effect, you dont think i dont feel the pain when i have to physicaly strain my fingers to move fast enough to type? You dont think that I dont cry becuse people make fun of how I shake pencils and twigs. You dont think it annoy sme when people dont let me borrow there pencils because I'd 'eat them" well it does and until you walk a mile in my shoes i dont want nay more crap from you

If you have such good imagination or mental abilty see it from my point of view, basicly what you've done is said you want to commit suicide, which is no more than a cry for attention on the internet, then when everyone tells you to deal with it, you blame it on a mental problem, once again no more than cry for attention if done on the internet, then of course you blame it on the person who's telling you to grow up. Have you ever considered typing slower, rather then writing badly and then throwing a hissy fit whenever someone tells you how bad it is.

My handwriting in real life sucks too, and I chew pens like no tommorow. Seriously, if you want people to listen to how bad your life is, posting it on an internet forum is not the way to go.

Essex.


???

The place where everyone is a drug taker, a comeplete bastard or a chav.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 03:24:03 am
Warning - while you were typing 15 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post. :P


               Anyway, don't worry guys about back then. I'm used to this kinda thing. It wasn't really like this back in the 90's, when I was about 5. It probably has something to do with the entire country's current condition. :-\ With all the corruption going on in the local and national scene. Try picturing GTA then apply it to the government here. That about sums things up. :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/World_Map_Index_of_perception_of_corruption.png

               Look for the human shaped thing near China. That's my country. It is currently listed as the #1 most corrupt country in the world, surpassing China just last year, making China #2.

               If only the government wasn't so obviously corrupt, as in someone in the first family covering the smuggling operations down at SMBA and the DOA stealing the money which was supposed to be used for the farmers' fertilizers. I mean, the farmers here have been working the fields since Spanish occupation, which was over 300 years ago, and they still don't get to own it because of the DAR's slowness. One of the former presidents here own an extremely large Hacienda (they provide a large percentage of the capital region's supply of sugar.) and they seem to be immune to the Dept. of Agrarian Reform's agenda. It's just insane, it's almost unrealistic. Ridiculous. :P It's sucks so much that the local movie industry actually made a movie for it. :P No kidding.

               If it weren't for that, I would actually stay here. But things aren't looking pretty bright and I'm not one to risk my safety in case they try and declare martial law, again. So yup, once I'm able to support myself, I'll be leaving.

Immune to guilt. Remember? Besides comparing our problems is liek apple and oranges. when you get deep enough how do you kno wthsi stuff doesnt affect me as much as Buram sucking affect you?


Dude. You made your point clear. If you want attention, I advice you to stop being like that. This kind of attention, tho it might seem to feed your hunger for any attention is not positive.

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on May 11, 2008, 03:40:24 am
Not Burma guys, here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines) :)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 03:43:44 am
The phillipines? Really? My best friend is half phili half Danish and he's currently residing in the philipines, for the duration of one year. He says he'd rather live down there because people despite not having much money, are very happy.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 11, 2008, 04:09:51 am
Good grief, what the heck happened here overnight?  ??? Teen slumber party?

#1 Leave Sporegames alone. It is possible to have all the things he mentioned. There are very high intelligent people out there with other problems including motor skills. There is no need to give him a hard time here if he gets it else where. We are a community not a lynch mob. You don't have to reply to everything.

#2 No talk of suicide should be on this forum. It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem and should never be considered or encouraged.

#3 Everyone has times of extreme despair, it's a personal emotion that others may not understand. You have to allow time to let it pass and it will.

#4 @SBD - Just talk to the girl, say "hi" and you could mention the phone and glasses, maybe ask where she got them and go from there. Say "hi" to her every time you see her. Maybe ask a question or compliment something about her. Most important if she does talk to you, listen. If you can, giver her a little eye contact when you say hello and a smile.

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on May 11, 2008, 04:28:58 am
               I guess the place is quite cheerful. Though, it's just that I kinda prefer some place a bit less stressful where you don't have to worry much. Maybe go back every now and then. The country is nice as far as the community's morale goes, but the atmosphere is kinda dangerous here. You have to be careful with what you do and say about the people in power, which is what I'm worried about. Especially the random crimes here and there, which have somehow rose along with the percentage of jobless folks.

               If ever I plan to build a house here, I'd prefer to distance it from where I am now, maybe place it in the provinces where its a bit more peaceful and I can distance myself from most of the issues here at the city.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Mr. Consideration on May 11, 2008, 04:52:37 am
LadyM saves the day once more.

But please, if you're really intelligent, don't go around telling people. Try proving it instead.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Draugr on May 11, 2008, 05:21:09 am
Ha, I'm kinda glad you guys are confronting him about it. Perhaps, the reason people find you hard to get along with is the fact that you come a off as intellectually condescending. Yet, as you said on the "Who Are You?" thread, you are falling the ninth grade. I think you need one of two things, either to knock ego down a few (about 10) notches , or you should seek help in the form on an administrator to see if they can provide an off campus class in teaching how to get your supposedly genius ideas out, while you also work on not voicing the fact that you are a genius. You should also be ready to find that much of your "genius" ideas have already been devised, as far as political theory. Good luck, I know some off this sounded venomous, and I apologize.

Also, you want Hilary to win the election, no room for that in this world...

p.s.- Attacking atheist by saying you hate pretty much all of them is a very very foolish thing to do. Especially here.

And a good day to you Mr. "Einstein"
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 11, 2008, 01:38:52 pm
#1 Leave Sporegames alone. It is possible to have all the things he mentioned. There are very high intelligent people out there with other problems including motor skills. There is no need to give him a hard time here if he gets it else where. We are a community not a lynch mob. You don't have to reply to everything.

Please see #1 above and move on to something else.
Title: Re: News for your Blues
Post by: PikMini on May 11, 2008, 07:08:47 pm
              Try letting him join a forum. Let him socialize with the people there. Eventually, he might get an urge to share some things that he has with the rest of the forum, like taking pictures and stuff. Afterwards, you might be able to take him outside so he could go get some pictures of your town. While the two of you are taking photos, you can ask him to do some activities with you, like walking across the woods to take some pictures.

              Fixating him on a constructive hobby might help. It doesn't necessarily matter if it's an outdoor or indoor one. You might start with an indoor one and slowly introduce to him different outdoor hobbies that's related to his indoor one.

              That's all I can do, Kaizer. I haven't met him in person so I'm not sure if it'll work. :-\

              Still, good luck! :)

Or you could trash his PC if it gets way out of hand.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: PatMan33 on May 11, 2008, 07:15:57 pm
You guys too, time to call it quits in here. It's been reported, it will be removed with any luck, and it won't happen again.

Move along.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on May 11, 2008, 07:20:00 pm
I believe ladym has told us once already to leave the guy alone. Back on topic please?


Ok, how do you guys deal with incompetent teachers? My french teacher...can't speak french. Well, she's also kinda senile. Fortunately, she plays favorites, and I've done enough sucking up that I'm not one of the kids she hates.

Now, the problem here is...She might be my teacher next year. And I don't want to not learn anything for 2 years in a row.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: DarkDragon on May 11, 2008, 07:21:28 pm
My programming teacher knew less Java programming (if any at all) than me after being self-taught for 2 days... I dealt with it by learning from books and the internet by myself.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 11, 2008, 07:22:41 pm
is she the only french teacher your school has?

I once had an old lady as my teacher. Since she was the only teacher for that subject, we rarely had class  ::)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: 762 on May 11, 2008, 07:23:09 pm
My programming teacher knew less Java programming (if any at all) than me after being self-taught for 2 days... I dealt with it by learning from books and the internet by myself.

Same thing with my microsoft application teacher. I knew more than her about Word than she knew about Word, Access, Powerpoint, and Excel put together.

She was so bad, in fact, that on more than one occasion I just printed off the templates she gave us and got 100%'s on them.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 11, 2008, 07:55:08 pm
For the last time, the discussion about Sporegames needs to stop now. Any further discussion will be deleted and that includes posts from SG.

I'm sure there are other teen problems to talk about.

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Hammerman58 on May 11, 2008, 08:42:52 pm
So i really want to ask out this girl. She is in my World Cultures class and math and she is really nice. I am so afraid to try to talk to her. Especially when her friends are always around. I keep trying to think about what to say but it all sounds to corny.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 11, 2008, 08:48:37 pm
I'm no expert in relationships but the basic rules apply:

1. If you haven't already done so introduce yourself, be friendly and don't sweat it if you mess up. Some girls actually find it funny (in the good way) to see you act silly. Just don't pull out those cheesy pic up lines, they have a knack out of making someone look like a jackass. The Fonz can do it but I suggest you don't try to >.>

2. Make sure she isn't taken, could lead to unnecessary verbal and physical acts of violence. Not worth it id she has another guy, or she's playing with more than one.

3. Becoming friends with her is key first, better yet become friends with her group of close friends.
Don't just jump into the "will you date me?" game right away unless you're confident about it.

4. Lastly, never fake being someone else, that's the corniest thing you could do. You're lying to yourself and her, and if she finds out it's just a charade than she won't be able to trust you. Worst scenario end up hating you.

Hope that helps guide you on the road to love :-*!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Legodragonxp on May 11, 2008, 08:59:35 pm
So i really want to ask out this girl. She is in my World Cultures class and math and she is really nice. I am so afraid to try to talk to her. Especially when her friends are always around. I keep trying to think about what to say but it all sounds to corny.

Just plan ahead a little.
1. If she says yes, what do you want to do? If you have no idea or want her to come up with an idea you've already lost the initiative... however meeting people should not be a race of a competition (it turns out to be, and if 20 years of social and work interaction has taught me anything, the competative types will only stab you in the back).
2. If she says no, deal with it and move on. Don't be and @$$hat and cop an attitude about it. Some people use no as a guage to see how you react. There might be a chance for round two, there might be someone else watchign inthe wings you don't see (ARGH! Flashback moment... I'm better now)
3. Either way consider the fact that you might not get along beyond being friends (or even not at all). That happens. It is the way things go.
4. Don't let your friends, or her friends, dictate your actions. YOU make the choice and SHE makes the choice.

Ask her to a movie, ask her to talk, ask her for help if there is something that she can help with (school topic, trivia game, whatever) maybe she is known to be knowledgeable about something... ask her something on that topic. It gives you a chance to listen and her a chance to show herself to you.

Oh, and expect a total turn off result. Just because it looks nice or appears nice, doesn't mean it is. I knew a girl once, totally hot, seemed great, then I had a chance to talk to her alone over dinner... ... ... ... I'm sure she made someone a beautiful trophy wife to wear on an arm.

Maybe this is on topic, maybe it isn't... I'm not going to go back a couple pages to even bother figuring out what everybody was ticked off about in this thread. LadyM can nuke this if I'm off topic.
-Lego
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 11, 2008, 09:04:35 pm
Nope, not off-topic at all, so don't worry about it.
Also I pretty much explained the same exact thing but you put it in better detail :P.
Still good job, and true; analyze here speech and behaviour before getting into a full on relationship with her hammerman. You'll regret it if she turns out to be a total bitch, I discovered that too late with my ex and I'm still paying for it now :-X.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Legodragonxp on May 11, 2008, 09:05:54 pm
I'm no expert in relationships but the basic rules apply:

1. If you haven't already done so introduce yourself, be friendly and don't sweat it if you mess up. Some girls actually find it funny (in the good way) to see you act silly. Just don't pull out those cheesy pic up lines, they have a knack out of making someone look like a jackass. The Fonz can do it but I suggest you don't try to >.>

2. Make sure she isn't taken, could lead to unnecessary verbal and physical acts of violence. Not worth it id she has another guy, or she's playing with more than one.

3. Becoming friends with her is key first, better yet become friends with her group of close friends.
Don't just jump into the "will you date me?" game right away unless you're confident about it.

4. Lastly, never fake being someone else, that's the corniest thing you could do. You're lying to yourself and her, and if she finds out it's just a charade than she won't be able to trust you. Worst scenario end up hating you.

Hope that helps guide you on the road to love :-*!

Just to follow up:
1. Be yourself. Acting isn't what you want to do.
2. It takes two to tango, if you are going after someone that is spoken for be wary of the potential for headaches (My halo is supported by horns)
3. Given the age range here, friends first should be almost mandatory, but it is possible to be friends with someone and be hated by all their peers. 'Dating' is a very subjective term, friendship may not happen, spending time with someone is not a prelude to marriage. Just hang out.
4. Same as #1 overall. Don't lie, you'll lose. If you find yourself losing alot, relax, things WILL change. Age benefits me with the Wisdom to say that. Too many people assume that a couple bad dates is the end of the world... it isn't... not by a long shot.

-Lego
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Hammerman58 on May 11, 2008, 09:06:45 pm
We are kinda friends. I think that you would have to be friends if one day we were laughing around and she said she will rape me to death. Also i made the mistake of asking her for her friends numbers that was last summer i got 2 but i couldnt read my hand writing. She also gave me hers but i never called it.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 11, 2008, 11:46:46 pm
Yeah, why must girls always travel in herds? That annoyed me especially so at school socials.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 12, 2008, 12:42:06 am
Because females are social butterflies.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 12, 2008, 12:49:54 am
More like yaks.  :P


Joking! JOKING!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 12, 2008, 12:56:09 am
Their best friends might be.. :P Especially when they hound you, when their friend is interested in you. Ah..good old days.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 12, 2008, 03:24:19 am
Yeah, why must girls always travel in herds? That annoyed me especially so at school socials.

I'm sure women find it intimidating that guys hang out in groups as well. :P

But yeah, the whole herd thing is really off putting. So is the giggling. Oh god! The giggling!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 12, 2008, 12:07:18 pm
My ears still bleed at night...

Thankfully, I'm a lone wolf. Or a bear... I'm certainly big enough. Do bears travel alone? I'm pretty sure they do.

Anyway, don't ask me for relationship advice. If you follow what I say, you'll probably end up stabbed in an alleyway by munchkins.

I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about. Just listen to Lego and Spore.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gunner on May 12, 2008, 12:26:09 pm
The girl I like thinks of me as a friend, while every other girl in the class likes me.
If there is a god, this is proof that he don't like me.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Draugr on May 12, 2008, 12:30:30 pm
I believe ladym has told us once already to leave the guy alone. Back on topic please?


Ok, how do you guys deal with incompetent teachers? My french teacher...can't speak french. Well, she's also kinda senile. Fortunately, she plays favorites, and I've done enough sucking up that I'm not one of the kids she hates.

Now, the problem here is...She might be my teacher next year. And I don't want to not learn anything for 2 years in a row.
LOL. we may have the same french teacher! I hate French and last teacher recognized that, and realized I was only there because two years of foreign language is required at my school. This new teacher, however, is mentally unstable and constantly trying to get me to the see the light of the beauty of french. I just ignore her it normally works well.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on May 12, 2008, 01:22:33 pm
Yeah, why must girls always travel in herds? That annoyed me especially so at school socials.

I'm sure women find it intimidating that guys hang out in groups as well. :P

But yeah, the whole herd thing is really off putting. So is the giggling. Oh god! The giggling!
You forget the shrieking. That high pitched eek noise that makes me want to slam something through a wall.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Draugr on May 12, 2008, 02:58:34 pm
Yea, I agree about the whole group giggling bit, but the most annoying things is who they constantly say that they hate a hate a person, yet the moment the said person is present they get all nice about them. Seriously, if your gonna talk **** at least be able to also do it their face.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 12, 2008, 04:57:52 pm
I'm sure women find it intimidating that guys hang out in groups as well.


We do?  :o

I never really noticed that. Most of the games used to, minimum, walk around in "groups" of two, while girls, used(and I'm sure still do) are like a wolf pack  ;D, we loose count of how many there are in a specific pack.

giggling? aha!

Try having the girl that fancies you and the girl that you fancy, talking about you with her pack of girls, and giggling. I miss being embarrased  :P
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: PatMan33 on May 12, 2008, 06:20:22 pm
Again, we should all take a page out of the book of the mighty Spice Girls.

*Speaks an incantation*

Amen.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on May 13, 2008, 01:34:14 pm
What I never understood was the whole thing about going to the bathroom in groups of five....
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 13, 2008, 01:35:49 pm
In case theres the off chance a genie will give each of them 3 wishes as long as they are in a group with higher numbers than 10, and I happens to live in one of the cubicles.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 13, 2008, 01:59:55 pm
I read that post...


What?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Draugr on May 13, 2008, 02:05:52 pm
What he is trying to say is...
They travel in group of 10 or more just in case they come upon a magical stall-dwelling genie that grants three wishes to groups of 10 or more.
Is that right plank?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 13, 2008, 02:24:26 pm
Y'know... he was joking so does it really matter all that much?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on May 14, 2008, 01:17:57 am
Maybe it has more to do with if they run out of toilet paper when... you know.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 14, 2008, 01:38:43 am
When the red river flows?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 14, 2008, 06:29:47 am
No, no, no.. don't go there. *glares at SBD*

Girls are social, they like having friends and people that like them. They like to feel part of something and they hate being disliked. They also get braver in a group rather than alone. They empower each other. They like to have the opinions of the other girls to what they do. Most of it is probably a lack of self confidence. It's also possible to destroy a girl's self esteem with a few words. They feel they have to live up to the Barbie image, they have to be pretty enough, thin enough and good enough because they know that guys are only interested in how they look. It's a rare young woman who has enough self confidence at an early age to not need a gaggle of friends. They go places together because they don't want to go alone. (the social thing) The friends also console each other when something goes wrong and they listen to each other.

Guys are raised to be self confident and able to do things on their own. Most don't have the need to seek approval from others, don't need to talk things out and don't need consoling. That's the major difference. (and all guys don't fit this)

If it makes a difference though, I also hate the giggling and shrieking :P Also, they are sneaky and manipulative to get what they want. ;)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Mr. Consideration on May 14, 2008, 08:48:59 am
LadyM speaks the truth. Do you think it is a thing imposed by society, or something caused by nature?

Although, interestingly, Males are starting to be more susceptible to poor self-image due to the advent of more focus on attractive males in advertising and other media. This can cause extreme efforts, similar to anorexia, to become more attractive. This could create a similar effect in males.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Haseri on May 14, 2008, 10:47:54 am
Well, school just ended for me. To celebrate, everyone went to this field far away from everyone. Being teenagers, there was alcohol and cigarettes. And to some lesser extent, weed.

I'm not accustemed to the whole drugs thing, we don't have any at home and I'm a sociaphobe, so I don't get out much, but in three hours, I had been genuinely turned off any drug for good, unless a man in a white coat and a degree told me to.

When I got there, one kid was allready off his face. He seemed to like the floor a lot more than a sober person, and whenever a friend told him there was something on his back, he'd reach round to get it, regardless of whether anything was there.

The night progressed. I had many people offereing me alcohol. Now I know that a lot of it I don't like. I had a conversation with one girl:
Girl: Do you want a spliff?
Me: Umm, no thank you.
Girl: Go on, you only live once.
What I should have said: Yes, but I'd like it to be as long as possible.
What I actually said: Nnnnnngggg

She did get the message in the end.

Some where around nine o'clock, depression started to set in. I hadn't had enough alcohol for it to happen. I think it might have been the girl I fancied (who, like many, haven't told. But other people know.*) smoking, or at least it looked like she was. Or it could have been people acting in ways I certainly have never seen. I started getting more and more upset. To which comes the moral of the story: Make friends with as many people as possible. Being nice gets you places. The amount of people who saw that I was was visibly upset and tried to comfort me helped me through that paticular spout of depression. And to all who have girl problems: You have all the time in the world.

*Before it got dark and people were considerably more drunk, I was talking to someone from my maths class, while another guy was chatting to his girlfriend beside me. My own little Foot In Mouth situation
Guy: Hey <girl I fancy who was sitting behind the guy's girlfriend>, shall I try and get <Me> to admit he like you.
Guy's GF: <Guy>! *Makes a face*
Guy: What?
Me: I'm sitting right here!
Hilarity didn't ensue.

Well, so much for me not having enough energy to write...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Interitus on May 14, 2008, 11:31:39 am
I think there are few situations here.

One is the girl you like. I had a look at your profile and saw you're 15. As hard as it might seem right now to accept this girl will probably end up as a footnote in your life. All the people I do know that married their highschool sweethearts dated then when they were 17-18. Right now you are still figuring out the entire relationship process. And things aren't going to work out all the time. The best thing to do with that is learn from it and move on. Find out what didn't work, what did. And moving on doesn't mean start looking for someone new the same night.  It's okay for things to hurt for a bit, but don't dwell on them.

Yes, you didn't have a relationship with thie person yet. So some of that is irrelevant. But go for it. Whats the worst that will happen, she rejects you.  Rejection is normal, everyone goes through it. Or she might go out with you.  And I wouldn't worry about anything people said, even though they weren't really drunk, at that age it doesn't take much for people to forge what happened last night.


Now the other is "Depression" . I put it in quotes because while it's still depression it's just a temporary feeling caused by the current enviroment. Given the nature of this thread people have to deal with actual (Clinical) Depression so we don't want to make theirs, which is much more serious, seem trivial. Smoking, drinking and drugs together in a large crowd bring out personalities you may not have seen in people before. People can get flirty, they can get loud they can get violent,  they can get goofy, they can get relaxed. It's all over the place.  In my experience I've found it best not to judge people on how they act during this time, for the most part. If someone is violent, or starts becoming very sexual I wouldn't hold it against them, but would remember how they acted for next time.

As for this girl, you saw her acting in a manner you might not really like. I would take this oppertunity to stop myself and consider WHY you like her. If it is completely physical, then the relationship won't go anywhere. I personally don't remember anyone in high school or anyone who got married based simply off physical attraction. Try talking to this girl, if you don't already. Find out if maybe she is a party girl or if she was simply trying things out. You may not agree but you can't hold a grudge over trying something out.  If you do get to the point where she asks you out, wait a few months. See if she repeats that behaviour and sit down and talk to her about it.

I realize I'm getting far ahead of myself, but don't stress over things that are ultimately futile. Try and step back and look at the big picture, is this girl really worth getting depressed about? How do you know for sure? 
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Celdur on May 14, 2008, 12:17:58 pm
what do you do if your parents are doing the wrong thing...as parents...

like...handing out punishments when you need there help or something
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 14, 2008, 12:31:02 pm
Confront them about their fallacy's, or counseling if it becomes necessary.
Just talking to them at the right time is key, dinner, car rides, somethin.


Help shouldn't really be an issue unless their busy with other tasks.
Busy parents usually end up not having time for you but try and convince them that you're really in need of their help; it's give and take so you do for them they have to do for you. It's not just one way around.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 14, 2008, 12:32:44 pm
So many of you have love problems just know you'll find the right girl....I did then I had to bloody move away...DAMN YOU CRUEL CHRISTIAN GOD!!!..:(
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 14, 2008, 12:36:58 pm
Might lose my gf because of the long distance thing. Eventually she'll be moving and I'm not sure if we can handle a long distance relationship :(. I feel you Kaizer, it'll get better eventually. And don't blame god (or Jesus), these things happen; I'm not saying hate your parents but it is their fault you moved away in the first place.

Still, not encouraging you to loath your parents it's just how I see the facts...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Interitus on May 14, 2008, 12:42:50 pm
I'm not saying hate your parents but it is their fault you moved away in the first place.

What if someones parents get transfered? Given the choice of having a job or staying in one place to keep your child happy. The RESPONSIBLE thing is to move. It isn't their fault, sometimes things have to be done so that they can put a roof over your head. And don't think it's always easy for a parent either. You don't lose the ability to make friend when you grow up, adults lose friends when they move also, and they miss them.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 14, 2008, 12:45:10 pm
Well Interitus it is my mothers fault she got a boyfriend and decided to go live with him at his mothers house....did I mention hes 48 and lives with his mom?...yeaa. I had to choose between going with her or moving up with my dad so I had no way of staying with my friends
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 14, 2008, 12:53:10 pm
Asuming this is the boyfreind that took crack right in front of you, it was a good choice to live with your dad.

My hook up chances are screwed anyway, I've given up all hope of finding someone here who has a pesonality behind looks, actualy thats not true, but all the decent girls are taken.

I know someone who is fat, ugly, a complete bitch, and sometimes she will interupt conversations between people she doesn't even know and call them both gay. Everyone haates her and she still does not admit she is any of the above.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 14, 2008, 12:54:15 pm
heh that sucks plank you gotta get it through her thick skull that shes annoying and rude
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 14, 2008, 12:58:52 pm
I'm not saying hate your parents but it is their fault you moved away in the first place.

What if someones parents get transfered? Given the choice of having a job or staying in one place to keep your child happy. The RESPONSIBLE thing is to move. It isn't their fault, sometimes things have to be done so that they can put a roof over your head. And don't think it's always easy for a parent either. You don't lose the ability to make friend when you grow up, adults lose friends when they move also, and they miss them.

Oh, wait I didn't mean that at all. I meant to day the whole transfered thing but I didn't add that in my post; you're right though Interitus. My bad, and my post is kinda pointless now :P.

Asuming this is the boyfreind that took crack right in front of you, it was a good choice to live with your dad.

My hook up chances are screwed anyway, I've given up all hope of finding someone here who has a pesonality behind looks, actualy thats not true, but all the decent girls are taken.

I know someone who is fat, ugly, a complete bitch, and sometimes she will interupt conversations between people she doesn't even know and call them both gay. Everyone haates her and she still does not admit she is any of the above.

Don't worry Plank, I felt the same way; things will brighten up in the love department.
And with that other annoying girl, she needs a rude awakening. Sometimes I feel like people like that don't deserve to be a part of society, but that's kind of mean isn't it?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 14, 2008, 01:01:27 pm
You are silly to believe that I have not already tried to cram it in with a Rounders bat through her ear.

Seriously, she's not even popular, hell, if she was born a guy she'd receive daily beatings from everyone because no-one likes her, and it's well deserved, but since she's female she's literaly untouchable. So in the meantime she'll imply that anyone who doesn't like her (eg: EVERYONE) likes it rough from hairy men, while we attempt to find a way to make her SHUT THE HELL UP!

Fun fact: We got so sick of her douchebaggery that someone started calling her "The Beaver" due to the fact that she has a serious case of overbite. And she sounds like she takes heluim EVERY DAY, for the past 7 YEARS.

Sporelover, personaly I think people should have permits to breed nowadays...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 14, 2008, 01:12:41 pm
what do you do if your parents are doing the wrong thing...as parents...

like...handing out punishments when you need there help or something

Have you tried telling them that you need their help not their anger? Have you said "I want you to listen and help me". If they won't verbally listen, can you write it in a letter to them? If they are too stubborn, not much you can do. :(
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Celdur on May 14, 2008, 01:18:41 pm
well they are too stuborn...they dont even take me seriously...they just blame anything there is left to blame...and then they just deal out punishments

i think my pc will be gone soon

i didnt do anything wrong...i just dont think the way they want me to think
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Interitus on May 14, 2008, 04:42:37 pm
well they are too stuborn...they dont even take me seriously...they just blame anything there is left to blame...and then they just deal out punishments

You can be equally stubborn. If they truely do not take notice, calmly point out that they are being unreasonable, you can keep a running tally if you want on how many times a day or week or month that you needed to talk with them and for whatever reason they aren't there to help? 

Try saying that you understand they are having problems with ___________ but that is something they have to deal with, there is nothing you can do to help (unless you can actually do something). Then say but right now, you need to act like a parent, I need yo talk to you about __________.

My dad wouldn't shout at me he was just always very busy, so I never had time for him. So whenever we were at a formal dinner, usually with other families and someone asked me how I was I would politely explain how I had problems with something and my dad was so busy he wouldn't listen.  My dad would get on the defensive and I would  calmly point out that I would get a response like this rather then any actual help with my problem

and it worked.

You'll find many people are too wrapped up in their own lives to worry about a parent, sibling, friend or child. Sometimes you have to verbally point out to a person they are losing their temper or not helping a situation with their comments.  Sometimes you have to embarass them in public for them to get the message (like I did). When dealing with your parents someone shouldn't have to go to these measures, and I wouldn't normally encourage it. But it is a parents responsibility for the care of their child.  So I say, if you have a problem, and your parents won't listen, find a way that they can't help but see that yes you need help with whatever.  Different parents need to be approached differently. To my father public image is very important to him, so I damaged his.

It might not be the best way about it, but when parenting goes there really shouldn't be excuses.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on May 14, 2008, 06:35:43 pm
You are silly to believe that I have not already tried to cram it in with a Rounders bat through her ear.

Seriously, she's not even popular, hell, if she was born a guy she'd receive daily beatings from everyone because no-one likes her, and it's well deserved, but since she's female she's literaly untouchable. So in the meantime she'll imply that anyone who doesn't like her (eg: EVERYONE) likes it rough from hairy men, while we attempt to find a way to make her SHUT THE HELL UP!

Fun fact: We got so sick of her douchebaggery that someone started calling her "The Beaver" due to the fact that she has a serious case of overbite. And she sounds like she takes heluim EVERY DAY, for the past 7 YEARS.

Sporelover, personaly I think people should have permits to breed nowadays...
I've had a problem with someone annoying me for a long time this school year. eventually what I did was I got the people who he annoyed most to completely and utterly ignore him. It's been going on for two months now. Doesn't really annoy me much anymore. Also, since you aren't doing anything to the person you'd be ignoring, you aren't actually breaking any rules. Unless you have to work with the person in class.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Hammerman58 on May 14, 2008, 07:22:09 pm
I have got a kid like that in my school. He is 17 and he based on the way he acts he is 12. He restates everyones statement but in question form. He is the only person that teachers and students want to strangle because of the obvious things he states and annoying nature. He is also asks some pretty weird questions. Such as whats it like to look at porn.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on May 14, 2008, 07:33:46 pm
Yeah, that's kinda like the kid I'm ignoring. Cept with runescape. And touching. I mean, shoulder grabbing and poking, not the other kind. And near constant nagging.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 15, 2008, 05:35:16 pm
This sucks I apparently have an illness (I'd rather not say what it is) it's not fatal or anything but it's a pain in the arse. The doctor says that I should stop eating yummy junk food and my other life sustaining supplements along with my precious caffeine  :'(. on top of that I have to mix this medicine with water (that makes it taste like a rotten lemon thats been puked up by Satan himself) its horrible... What sucks more is the fact it's ugh...sort of an embarrassing illness which if got out would ruin the few strands of reputation I have. :'(
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 15, 2008, 05:38:03 pm
Diabeetus?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 15, 2008, 05:50:40 pm
...>.> It's not an incurable thing just has to do with my eating and junk
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on May 15, 2008, 06:28:38 pm
Well I might as well add my angst to the pot of everything so here it goes. I am in a science class right now that is full of complete and utter *******s and morons! I swear, every single kid in the room has either anger issues or a case of dumb blond syndrome. I get at least 7 pencils or pens thrown at me every single day, the teacher is a total pushover when it comes to rules, I have been both verbally and physically abused at least once a week for the past 6 1/2 months, and some of the questions the students ask are so obvious and retarded that I just want to scream "HOW THE **** CAN YOU NOT KNOW THAT!?!" Besides that, the tests and work the teacher gives are so freakin' easy! I can bull**** my way through at least 80% of tests questions and still get an A on it. Meanwhile, while I'm getting an easy A in the class, everyone else is so dumb and shallow that they are dragging down the class average to a D-, A D MINUS! I hate the class so damn much that if those stupid idiotic excuses for human beings do one more thing to me, I swear I'm going to go berserk in frustration, storm out of the class, and refuse to come back even if I'm threatened with 6 months of Saturday school and enough detention to rival the time of most jail sentences! BTW, I have talked to my counselors and a couple administrators about it and they haven't done jack ****! Go figure!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 15, 2008, 09:35:38 pm
High cholesterol/ blood pressure? 
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on May 15, 2008, 10:29:48 pm
Shouldn't they be in another section, Andrew? That's gotta suck. :(


@Kaizer: Well, good luck on recovering from that thing. Remember, however much it sucks right now, when you finally recover, its gonna feel awesome! :) Hang in there, pal! :)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Hammerman58 on May 16, 2008, 12:28:58 am
I have to start work soon. At a place that takes advantage of the lack of jobs in the region. Teens have virtually no choice where to work and the only place that hires mainly teens. They have us working 40+ hours a week and barley min wage.. It day work to 12-10 which really kills the summer working that time. You would think a amusement park that is highly recognized would pay better. It was ranked up there next to disney for a few categories. I cant recall them at the moment which. Anyhow its ruthless it steals your innocence and soul. They make you work in stands that build up heat and they give no fans at all and you have to wear a kind of heavy cotton shirt.

I had some bad experiences in a lemonade stand. I worked in a shack by myself for over 2 weeks.  :'( It was the most busy weeks of the summer. I had constantly a line that was at least 30-40 feet long all day. The sticky counters and the bees or lord the bees. I got stung almost everyday, some times more the twice.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Great Distance on May 16, 2008, 02:56:37 am
I know someone who is fat, ugly, a complete bitch, and sometimes she will interupt conversations between people she doesn't even know and call them both gay. Everyone haates her and she still does not admit she is any of the above.
Seriously, she's not even popular, hell, if she was born a guy she'd receive daily beatings from everyone because no-one likes her, and it's well deserved, but since she's female she's literaly untouchable. So in the meantime she'll imply that anyone who doesn't like her (eg: EVERYONE) likes it rough from hairy men, while we attempt to find a way to make her SHUT THE HELL UP!

Fun fact: We got so sick of her douchebaggery that someone started calling her "The Beaver" due to the fact that she has a serious case of overbite. And she sounds like she takes heluim EVERY DAY, for the past 7 YEARS.

I was just wondering... Did everyone start hating her first or was she like that from the beginning? Though I guess there should be a reason why everyone started hating her in the first place... but could it have been something else? If she feels that everyone hates her, I think it's kind of understandable that she would hate everyone, too. Calling her names isn't certainly going to help. Maybe you should just tell her what exactly is the problem you have with her? It might be that she is the one who is causing the problem, but she might not see it that way. She might just think that everyone hates her because she is, like, fat and ugly and has an overbite. And the only way she can defend herself is being hateful towards others, too.

Now, I'm just saying this because I have feeling that I might be a bit like her in some people's opinions. Except that I'm just a grumpy-looking bitch with zits that never talks to anyone because she thinks that she's just too good for them. Though in reality everyone knows that's she's a completely pathetic little wimp who just doesn't seem to understand when her company isn't appreciated.

Anyway, it's just... I dunno, just reading this makes me wonder if that's the kind of stuff people talk about me, too.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 16, 2008, 05:00:16 am
Awwww, GD... You're a good person.


I'm sure they don't talk about you behind your back. :)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 16, 2008, 05:40:42 am
Well, not much at least.  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 16, 2008, 07:42:41 am
Awwww, GD... You're a good person.
I'm sure they don't talk about you behind your back. :)

She has a valid point and I can see why she might be concerned.

The girl was not described as being bitchy and intolerable, the first part of the description was fat and ugly which are really irrelevant to the girls attitude to others. Later it was an overbite and her voice, more physical features. It further confirms that to males, beauty and weight are important issues which make girls feel more low self esteem if they don't measure up. I'll guarantee that girl has been teased all her life for her weight and later her looks, maybe even by her own family. As a self defense mechanism, she has become what others told her she was and she plays the part now. If she can be hateful to others first, then she blocks the chance for them to hurt her.

She is probably in dire need of a friend but I doubt she'll trust anyone. People should really stop calling her names and show some kindness.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 16, 2008, 07:49:16 am
I think LadyM is pretty much right. Still doesn't explain to me that on my first day here in like, the first few hours she's went up to my face and called me an ******* that has no freinds, despite the fact that, at that point, she had never seen me before. Well, perhaps it does, but I'd hate to know what she'd have to have gone through to insult people she doesn't even know.

I think the main differance between people's attitudes here and peoples attitudes in other places can be explained in the below video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70TG4oRBPPc


Yes, I do have to deal with those kinds of people every day, no wonder I'm so cranky :'(
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on May 16, 2008, 12:31:22 pm
His accent is so thick.

He makes the chavs seem somewhat unpleasant, to put it lightly.

EDIT: Quid = Pounds eh? I learned something today.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Draugr on May 16, 2008, 12:51:38 pm
12:26, sounds like the aliens from Signs, sorry had to say it. Anyway, it was a good informative video, glad I don't have to deal with them. The guy in the video is hilarious to me English accents make everything so much more funny and profound. All I can say is carry a knife and at least its not the Russian mob...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 16, 2008, 12:53:09 pm
He makes the chavs seem somewhat unpleasant, to put it lightly.


Trust me, he's understating. :-\

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: emmet on May 16, 2008, 02:38:59 pm
EDIT: Quid = Pounds eh? I learned something today.

Well considering thats used here too, it's more just Quid=Money.

But you must have heard that before...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 17, 2008, 05:11:32 am
It further confirms that to males, beauty and weight are important issues which make girls feel more low self esteem if they don't measure up.


Beauty and weight are important issues to females too. not only their body image but the body image of the males. No one is going to be with someone unattractive, no matter how many other qualities the person might have. No attraction = no physical spark = no future for the relationship.

Now the problem with women and their self - esteem is that they can be the most beautiful girl around but they still feel like other pretty women are more pretty than them. A woman's self esteem is never your concern unless you are Dr. Phil. Doesn't matter if you love them, you didn't sign up to make her issues go away.


I do agree that the comments "fact and ugly" were rude  >:(
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 17, 2008, 05:17:28 am
As she wasn't rude to everyone else first? ::)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 17, 2008, 06:03:35 am
If someone shoots you in the leg, are you going to shoot him back?


Being more mature than someone is to avoid doing what makes that person immature.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 17, 2008, 06:43:23 am
If someone shoots you in the leg, are you going to shoot him back?

Yeah, why wouldn't I?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on May 17, 2008, 06:47:27 am
Actually, I'd probably shoot them somewhere that'd prevent them from shooting me again.

Depending on the circumstances, of course.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 17, 2008, 06:54:27 am
I must've have chosen the wrong set of words.

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 17, 2008, 07:07:53 am
It further confirms that to males, beauty and weight are important issues which make girls feel more low self esteem if they don't measure up.


Beauty and weight are important issues to females too. not only their body image but the body image of the males. No one is going to be with someone unattractive, no matter how many other qualities the person might have. No attraction = no physical spark = no future for the relationship.

Now the problem with women and their self - esteem is that they can be the most beautiful girl around but they still feel like other pretty women are more pretty than them. A woman's self esteem is never your concern unless you are Dr. Phil. Doesn't matter if you love them, you didn't sign up to make her issues go away.


I do agree that the comments "fact and ugly" were rude  >:(

Beauty and weigh are instilled in girls at a young age by many sources, parents, media, peers. Her self esteem isn't your concern unless you become her partner and then yes, it is your problem. The issues come with the girl and it will affect you as long as you have a relationship with her. My comments above were more to help you understand why she probably acts that why, not to fix her.

It's not true that people aren't with someone who is unattractive. Women might initially be attracted to looks but ultimately it will be the personality and how they are treated that will make them fall in love. There are many ugly men that have beautiful women because they know how to treat them and not be shallow about it. There is more to life then a pretty face. Looks and physical appearance are not that high on my list. Many an attractive man is also egotistical, conceited and self centered. There is also many men who are with unattractive women but because they love them, they will make them feel like they are the most beautiful woman on earth. That is a quality man.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 17, 2008, 07:24:03 am
It further confirms that to males, beauty and weight are important issues which make girls feel more low self esteem if they don't measure up.


Beauty and weight are important issues to females too. not only their body image but the body image of the males. No one is going to be with someone unattractive, no matter how many other qualities the person might have. No attraction = no physical spark = no future for the relationship.

Now the problem with women and their self - esteem is that they can be the most beautiful girl around but they still feel like other pretty women are more pretty than them. A woman's self esteem is never your concern unless you are Dr. Phil. Doesn't matter if you love them, you didn't sign up to make her issues go away.


I do agree that the comments "fact and ugly" were rude  >:(

Beauty and weigh are instilled in girls at a young age by many sources, parents, media, peers. Her self esteem isn't your concern unless you become her partner and then yes, it is your problem. The issues come with the girl and it will affect you as long as you have a relationship with her. My comments above were more to help you understand why she probably acts that why, not to fix her.

It's not true that people aren't with someone who is unattractive. Women might initially be attracted to looks but ultimately it will be the personality and how they are treated that will make them fall in love. There are many ugly men that have beautiful women because they know how to treat them and not be shallow about it. There is more to life then a pretty face. Looks and physical appearance are not that high on my list. Many an attractive man is also egotistical, conceited and self centered. There is also many men who are with unattractive women but because they love them, they will make them feel like they are the most beautiful woman on earth. That is a quality man.


We are individual beings and as individual beings our problems and issues belong to us only. We must deal with our problems, not the person we are with. No one should be in a relationship if, problems are present. Of course if this was so, there wouldn't be many relationships but the existing relationships would be far less stressful and demanding.

I solve my own problems. Therefore I except my partner to solve her own. Every person should think like that. It solves a lot of energy and time since, the only person that can solve problems, is the person that has the problem in the first place. No partner can help her self - esteem, only her can. Saying otherwise, as in, "the partner has to deal with it", it's the same as saying that "when you go out with your buddies friday night, I am left feeling unloved, my self - esteem suffers".

So what is a guy to do, avoid altogether social interaction with his buddies even though, he spends only one night with the fellas and every night with the girl, because of her self - esteem?

Plain manipulation. As simple as that. Do not put up with that, guys. You are not, their fathers, their brothers or their shrink.

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It's not true that people aren't with someone who is unattractive. Women might initially be attracted to looks but ultimately it will be the personality and how they are treated that will make them fall in love.

But are they physically attracted to the person?

Love alone will not keep a relationship strong and stable if the physical components are lacking.


About the ideal of beauty and such that women are fed since they are infants: that is really not my problem.

Society feeds this ideal of men must be muscular and buff and what else, while I'm thin as a stick and I could care less.

I don't go near my girlfriend and tell her "oh, I can't feel good about myself because I weight 50kgs instead of weighting 90kg sof pure muscle."


Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 17, 2008, 08:33:22 am
Self esteem issues is not a constant problem, it's an underlying issue that crops up now and then. If your looking for someone without problems, good luck. Everyone has them. If all you want is a pretty face, good luck with that too. It's an individual agreement what you do with your buddies and your girl, everyone is different. It has nothing to do with her self esteem.

Physical attractiveness varies in individuals too, so yes, I think there can be. To truly love someone is to love faults and all. Love alone might not keep things together but a strong foundation of friendship and respect will.

I really don't know why you seem so hostile, I'm trying to give insight to what a female thinks but if you think I don't know what I'm talking about I can just stop posting. My posts were not intended to be against males.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 17, 2008, 12:20:35 pm
Sorry sasha but i am with LadyM on this one.

It all comes down to individual people though. Everyone is different so you can't just generalize everything.

Physical attraction is important but a relationship won't fail without it and many times physical attraction is only important for sex and a relationship can actually live without that too. And a partner should not have to deal with their problems alone. Thats part of the point of a relationship you help and care for each other through everything.

I have been with a person for almost 3 years. We live together

She is very pretty and quite physically attractive. Do i find some other women more attractive? unfortunately yes and i wish i did not because it hurts her. Would i ever leave her for a super model? not a chance.

I had extreme self esstem issues and to a point still do. I grew up somewhat skinny with acne since the age of 10 and i still have that acne. I never had a girlfriend growing up they always told me i was ugly so when me and my SO started dating i was extremely controlling out of fear of losing her.

She put up with it because she cared and she gave up a few things she loved doing. She quit the debate team and school plays and would stay away from guys unless i was around so i wouldn't worry.

In the end i gave up most of my high school friends so i could spend more time with her and i also ended my dream of going in to the army.

But we are both very happy. If she got disfigured my feelings would remain them same toward her. If for some reason we could never have sex my feelings would remain the same for her.

Relationships are give and take.

Low self esteem is not something to be taken lightly. Its a big deal.

I get hit on every now and then now though. I still have acne but not as much due to proactive. If i stop using it my face and back gets covered again. I'm not some gym rat of a hunk that the girls pass out over but I'm not horribly skinny ether. Ether way i do not care every girl i attempted to date was not worth my time since they only seen with their eyes and not their heart. Corny that may be but its none the less true.

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 17, 2008, 02:30:14 pm
I'm with LadyM.

If you want physical attractive, buy a hooker.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 17, 2008, 02:31:13 pm
Hookers are physicly attractive?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 17, 2008, 02:31:53 pm
Well, buy an attractive one.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 17, 2008, 04:43:32 pm
Alright enough with the hooker talk...
Even though he's right

But when it does come to love, physical attraction isn't always everything; it is a major component for a relationship but not the strongest point of it all.

Speaking of relationships here's my conundrum:

Basically, I've been with my girlfriend for about 2 months now; 3 next week.
I love her with all of my heart and vice versa, here comes the problem.
*Takes deep breath*

She's moving homes, which isn't very far from her previous one, but with that in mind goes the combination of transferring schools as well. She's officially moving schools on the 12th of June, which gives me nearly a month left with her. So my solutions are: Ride it out until either one of us breaks it off at the last minute, or make it quick and end it now stopping this charade. The latter of the two sounds like the more logical selection but I love her so much it would be hard for me to do it... In a sick way I'd rather her take care of things since I think I can handle the break up process better than she could; but again that would be dragging things out.

Ending it quickly sounds better due to the fact that she doesn't want a serious relationship until she analyzes the situation (handling a long distance relationship, break up, or staying within the school system). No serious relationship means: lack of kissing, barely any hand holding, etc. It's like subconsciously she knows it's going to end but in the first mind she keeps the relationship together, in a sense. And ironically, I've been subconsciously flirting with other girls a couple of my female friends to. I'm guessing it's a mental relapse from the lack of everyday relationship rituals.

I love her so much but I don't know how it's going to end, many scenarios are playing out in my mind but I don't truly know the real outcome of this endeavour. I...I could use some advice, or at least the sentiment.

(And if anyones known me long enough, I use emoticons/smileys in most of my posts but this one lacks any. That means I'm in a serious tone, not joking around...if anyone wanted to know is all.)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 17, 2008, 05:55:54 pm
Wait, she's only moving to another school? In the same town? Not enough to break it off. There still many ways to keep in touch, email, IM's , phone. Or is she moving far away like another state? I don't see a reason to break up until you know how it's going to go. If you like her, why break it off? That doesn't make sense. Give it a try and go from there.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 17, 2008, 06:08:28 pm
Problem being her really.
She lives far away enough as it is, about and hour from my house and 1 1/2 to and from school when traffic is fair. Not saying giving a long distance relationship isn't a good try it's just that we've been on and off about relationship status since things usually happen with long distance.
(Oh and not in the same town, she lives like 2 towns away as it is)

Good example being either one of us cheats on one another and ending up hating each other.
Just an assumption but the whole story isn't very clear for me. She tells me that she wants to leave the school system currently in place for various reasons; mainly for a better education (and other criticisms) but then she also mentioned that she has to wake up and hour earlier to get to school. (from the new school or the old school not sure which) Yeah I could give it a try, problem with that being I want to get serious but she's still unsure about it  which I can understand but also trifles my judgement as well. Many possibilities, not sure what to do.... But thanks for the advice anyway LadyM, it combersome...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 18, 2008, 07:56:25 am
This is just bull**** my dad messed up his computer (everything is in japanese or something) and so he blames it on me! I haven't even been near his computer!! if anyones to blame its my sister and her boyfriend who used it last night to watch pirated videos!!!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 18, 2008, 08:00:32 am
And you'll try to argue this, but he won't listen, or even tell you off for trying to blame it on your sister.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: 762 on May 18, 2008, 08:02:51 am
This is just bull**** my dad messed up his computer (everything is in japanese or something) and so he blames it on me! I haven't even been near his computer!! if anyones to blame its my sister and her boyfriend who used it last night to watch pirated videos!!!

My dad used to pull that **** all the time. I got a laptop in September and didn't touch the family computer since then. A few months later, the family computer starts booting up really slow and my dad blames me for it. More specifically, it's all those games I've been loading on it slowing down the performance. I tell him I've done nothing with it, and it eventually deteriorates into almost complete uselessness. He buys a new one and after a few months it gets a bit laggy and he once again blames it on me. I literally have spent maybe 20 minutes on it and that's only to load up a movie to watch on the projector that it's hooked up to.

You're not alone, dude.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on May 18, 2008, 08:10:59 am
               That I can assure. Sometimes, even bosses act like that.

               Maybe she did something to the computer's character map in order to put subs on her dvd or translate a site or program. My bro's the knowledgeable one in that field, though. Wish the best of luck on you, Kaizer.

               I Hope things brighten up on your side too, Kaizer. :)


To SL:

               From what I hear, it seems that, deep inside, you really want this relationship to last, SL. Though, I'm not sure about her. If you decide to break it off right now, some sentiments might still remain in both of your minds. This can get very troublesome, especially when outside, the two of you have already broken off.

               Try and ask someone she knows about how she talks to them. It might help a lot in understanding her current mood about this.

               It would be for the better if the two of you had a long nice conversation. Don't rush her about it, though. Just let the topics flow, just like always. Throw away everything else for a while. ;) It's your private time with her, so the trappings of this world should be put aside for a while. :) Try and gauge how the both of you feel along the way. It might give you an idea on how things are between the two of you. Remember, its not how your hearts beat that measures your feelings. Its something deeper, something thats physical and not physical at the same time. You'll know it when you feel it. :) Only you and her can test if it's strong enough.

               Once you get a general idea, you can start from there. Try and write down the factors. Transferring thoughts onto paper helps a lot in clearing your mind of stress, which hampers decision-making.

               In the end, only the two of you can decide which way to go. Though, the gang here's supporting you along the way. :)

               In any case, dragging it longer will make it more and more difficult. Both of you have to do your part in taking care of each other's hearts and most importantly, in making decisions like these. Your not just partners, but also friends, very close friends. Close enough that you've gotten this far. Right? :) A friend you can lean on in times of loneliness. :)

               Maybe your parents or other relatives have stories they can share about their relationships that are similar to this. Everyone is different, but it can give you a general idea. :)

               Hope you two find what choice will make you both happy in the end, all in mind about the other's. :) Either way, the future is vast! :) Don't let current problems let you down. Handle them, but don't let your sight of the horizon be clouded by too many problems. You've gotten this far, you can make it past this! There's always the future, as long as the both of you can hold on. Of course, this depends on the decisions today. That, I wish you all the luck I can give you, pal! :)

               I hope it turns out good for the two of you. For the happiness of both of you. :)

               I hope I could've helped you more, SL. So I'll just wish for the best of the both of you! Good luck out there! ;) :)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 18, 2008, 08:28:58 am
Problem being her really.
(Oh and not in the same town, she lives like 2 towns away as it is)

Yeah I could give it a try, problem with that being I want to get serious but she's still unsure about it  which I can understand but also trifles my judgement as well. Many possibilities, not sure what to do.... But thanks for the advice anyway LadyM, it combersome...

I'd suggest don't try to get serious but don't break it off yet if it's that upsetting. Just let it ride for a bit and see what happens. Living two towns away is not that far and dating can be done on weekends. At least your not two states away or two countries away. Though chances are good it won't last (just being honest) it might. You won't know for sure if you abandon it now.

This is just bull**** my dad messed up his computer (everything is in japanese or something) and so he blames it on me! I haven't even been near his computer!! if anyones to blame its my sister and her boyfriend who used it last night to watch pirated videos!!!
Has anyone run a spyware program recently? They are notorious for slowing down a computer. If you don't have one tell him to get a free one like Ad-Adware or Spybot Search and Destroy. It's different than anti-virus and you need both. Any time a computer slows down, check that out. If settings are messed up, then do a system restore to an earlier date. I had to do that today on my laptop because for some reason it went wonky yesterday. Could have been anything that made the change but watching pirated videos sounds like a breeding ground for spyware or viruses.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 18, 2008, 01:29:09 pm
Problem being her really.
(Oh and not in the same town, she lives like 2 towns away as it is)

Yeah I could give it a try, problem with that being I want to get serious but she's still unsure about it  which I can understand but also trifles my judgement as well. Many possibilities, not sure what to do.... But thanks for the advice anyway LadyM, it combersome...

I'd suggest don't try to get serious but don't break it off yet if it's that upsetting. Just let it ride for a bit and see what happens. Living two towns away is not that far and dating can be done on weekends. At least your not two states away or two countries away. Though chances are good it won't last (just being honest) it might. You won't know for sure if you abandon it now.

Great advice, and don't worry about being honest that's the only thing that I can expect anyone to say.
Riding it out is my current plan, breaking it off between us is only a possibility I've been dwelling on for quite some time. I'm just confused because the whole thing worries me is all; riding things out is the only thing I can do for now...

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on May 18, 2008, 07:34:27 pm
Well, good luck then! :)

?Hope the two of you end up happy with whatever choice you make. :)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 18, 2008, 07:37:40 pm
I'm hoping so  :-\.
For both of our sakes, just have to wait it out now...

*sigh*

Thanks for the support Yuu.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on May 20, 2008, 07:32:09 pm
Problem being her really.
(Oh and not in the same town, she lives like 2 towns away as it is)

Yeah I could give it a try, problem with that being I want to get serious but she's still unsure about it  which I can understand but also trifles my judgement as well. Many possibilities, not sure what to do.... But thanks for the advice anyway LadyM, it combersome...

I'd suggest don't try to get serious but don't break it off yet if it's that upsetting. Just let it ride for a bit and see what happens. Living two towns away is not that far and dating can be done on weekends. At least your not two states away or two countries away. Though chances are good it won't last (just being honest) it might. You won't know for sure if you abandon it now.

Great advice, and don't worry about being honest that's the only thing that I can expect anyone to say.
Riding it out is my current plan, breaking it off between us is only a possibility I've been dwelling on for quite some time. I'm just confused because the whole thing worries me is all; riding things out is the only thing I can do for now...



Just try not to break up with her because of communication issues if you don't get serious. I know a lot of long distance relationships (much longer then yours) that lasted for a long time. If you can't communicate, find a better way to communicate rather then getting problems in your relationship.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 20, 2008, 07:55:19 pm
Thanks for the advice.
Well anything hugs and texts is something not to complain about all that much anymore.
If anything I'm lucky to get any sort of affection at all. Honestly speaking I consider myself at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to sex appeal at my school (hard for you guys to know since you haven't seen a glimpse of me). Not mega ugly but not what the average loner with little good looks. Nope, I'm not trying to impress anyone it's just that's how I view myself.

A lonerish teenager with slightly smooth to rough skin in the pimple area, black curly "pube" hair with really dark brown eyes, some what like the stereotypical Caucasian esque voice, and a too realistic attitude (depending on time and place.) That garnered with the fact I'm African American doesn't really help with my intelligence compared to my fellow white class mates, (which take up nearly 92% of my school population)doesn't really help my love or social life.

The main issue I have is that I come off more like a friend rather than boyfriend material (yeah relationshps start out with being friends but most want it to stay that way, that pissing me off).
Yeah I kinda get a tad nervous around girls, even with the ones I know very well.
In essence I'm kinda of socially shy actually-but back on topic.
The fact that I'm more friend material and I actually have a girlfriend makes me happy I have at least something; I'm surprised she asked me out in the first place. But I did feel something the first day we met, the spark was always there. I'm still a little aggravated that we can't get serious (groping, kissing etc.), very aggravated, but I can deal with it for now. No break up on my mind, so I'll still have to ride this out. For better or worse.

**Recap**
With my recent posts and more posts to come let me just say this. I'm not saying that my problems are worse than anyone else's. I am not saying that everything bad has to happen to me, nothing like that of the sort. It sounds like I was complaining but I was explaining my current situation, I don't do serious posts like this often so don't also assume I've become an ass-hat. Just saying that we all have problems, and I posted one (or more) like anyone else in this thread. If you don't want to hear my sob story then skip it. Take it or leave it, that's how I see it.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SporeGames on May 29, 2008, 06:26:34 am
what do you do if your parents are doing the wrong thing...as parents...

like...handing out punishments when you need there help or something

Have you tried telling them that you need their help not their anger? Have you said "I want you to listen and help me". If they won't verbally listen, can you write it in a letter to them? If they are too stubborn, not much you can do. :(

LadyM you seem rather motherly both in the way you keep after teh forums and the way you talk to members.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 29, 2008, 06:27:33 am
There's something in the female make - up that makes them act and feel motherly, for people of their own blood and non family.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 29, 2008, 11:15:15 pm
Slightly off topic, but during a stats lecture me and a friend concluded that the worst possible way to break up with someone would be to send a text message saying "breaking up, lol"
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 30, 2008, 05:46:36 am
Nah, the worst way to break up with someone would be to propose, then on the wedding day when they ask the whole 'do you?' bit say "Psyke!"
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 30, 2008, 06:52:11 am
Slightly off topic, but during a stats lecture me and a friend concluded that the worst possible way to break up with someone would be to send a text message saying "breaking up, lol"

The "lol" part might fall bad on her gut  :P
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Werechicken on May 30, 2008, 06:54:10 am
A real break up text I saw was"I don't want to go out with you anymore!" I thought the exclamation mark was a tad cruel and unnecessary, plus she was really nice, good looking and overall great to hang around with, while the guy who sent the text was a complete prick.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 30, 2008, 07:21:47 am
Slightly off topic, but during a stats lecture me and a friend concluded that the worst possible way to break up with someone would be to send a text message saying "breaking up, lol"

The "lol" part might fall bad on her gut  :P

Huh?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 30, 2008, 07:23:45 am
Slightly off topic, but during a stats lecture me and a friend concluded that the worst possible way to break up with someone would be to send a text message saying "breaking up, lol"

The "lol" part might fall bad on her gut  :P

Huh?


"lol" might induce her to think you're laughing at her.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on May 30, 2008, 07:41:17 am
Thats the whole point. It's a really bad way to break up with someone.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 30, 2008, 07:44:47 am
Every single way of breaking - up is really bad but you don't, when you have the person in front of you, "laugh", and "Lol" is considered laughing. That's why I said it wouldn't go well on her.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Axelgear on May 30, 2008, 07:48:27 am
I say let yourselves drift apart. Then, when it finally comes time to break up, neither of you love each other anymore and it doesn't hurt so much. It sounds horrible, I know, but it's really the only way to avoid the pain.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on May 30, 2008, 08:45:05 am
I say let yourselves drift apart. Then, when it finally comes time to break up, neither of you love each other anymore and it doesn't hurt so much. It sounds horrible, I know, but it's really the only way to avoid the pain.

That actually is a good way. One time I broke up with some one just by saying "Hey, this isn't really going any where is it?"

"No not really... should we break up?"

"Yeah probable"

"Thank God"

"I know!"
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on May 30, 2008, 11:28:22 am
had to do it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbad22CKlB4
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 30, 2008, 12:32:42 pm
I officially spite you with a fiery passion LadyM.

jk


I say let yourselves drift apart. Then, when it finally comes time to break up, neither of you love each other anymore and it doesn't hurt so much. It sounds horrible, I know, but it's really the only way to avoid the pain.

That actually is a good way. One time I broke up with some one just by saying "Hey, this isn't really going any where is it?"

"No not really... should we break up?"

"Yeah probable"

"Thank God"

"I know!"

Interesting break up plan, mutual breakups are hard to do but it's great when it works.
Never done it myself but it seems fated to happen eventually *sigh*.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 30, 2008, 02:01:58 pm
Haha i think i can top a couple of those. This one actually happened to me when i was..15 i think.

So you get your first ever girlfriend right. You decide to go bowling one day and give your cousin a call someone you grew up with you best friend somebody who has been there for you through everything including all the rejections that happened before. He is estactic to meet you first girlfriend and is very happy for you.

Anyways your bowling with your girl when he finally gets to the bowling ally. As you get stop to get food you come back seeing your cousin with a puzzled look on his face.

(me) Whats wrong.

(Him) Er..that girl the one right there *points* shes your girlfriend right?.

(me) Yep why

(Him) I asked her how long you guys have been dating and she said you are not her boyfriend.

Your cousin leaves to the bathroom so you can sort this out. She has an uh oh look on her face.

(Me) whats wrong?

(Her) you are going to be so mad at me

(me) what...

(her) I like your cousin.

She then proceeds to walk up to him and ask him out on the spot right before my eyes. My cousin swiftly and rudely rejected her. To this day my cousin hates her for that because he felt like it was his fault a bit even though i assured him it was not.

That sucked bad.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 30, 2008, 02:07:38 pm
He was a good guy to do that, it's not his fault at all.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 30, 2008, 02:08:01 pm
How could she....
>:(

And your cousin shouldn't blame himself for that, things like that happen.
I mean the attraction for someone else in a relationship, not the asking out of someone else on the spot. THAT is just rude, heartless, and stupid of a thing to do; hope she gets what she deserves >:D
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LuceroJuarez on May 30, 2008, 03:23:11 pm
I say let yourselves drift apart. Then, when it finally comes time to break up, neither of you love each other anymore and it doesn't hurt so much. It sounds horrible, I know, but it's really the only way to avoid the pain.

It's a pansy way of doing it. Grow a pair.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 30, 2008, 03:24:33 pm
I say let yourselves drift apart. Then, when it finally comes time to break up, neither of you love each other anymore and it doesn't hurt so much. It sounds horrible, I know, but it's really the only way to avoid the pain.

It's a pansy way of doing it. Grow a pair.


You are gonna get a heap of hate in a minute from roughly the entire forum so I'd advise you to GTFO ASAP.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LuceroJuarez on May 30, 2008, 03:26:41 pm
You are gonna get a heap of hate in a minute from roughly the entire forum so I'd advise you to GTFO ASAP.

Oh, I am quaking here. Not a horde of lonely Internet people!  ;D

Take the advice. It's the truth. If you have to rely upon such a pathetic way of breaking a relationship, perhaps you shouldn't attempt to have a relationship in the first place.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 30, 2008, 03:27:55 pm
Why would he get hate from the forum?

He's being honest and let's face it. If you were dating someone and that person saw the relationship was leading nowhere, would you prefer her to string you along, like nothing is wrong and one day approach you with the break - up, or would you prefer a direct, clean resolution?

For adolescent relationships, the method of  avoiding the conversation is acceptable, I guess. But you lot won't be teens forever.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 30, 2008, 03:28:58 pm
Where I'm from if you want to dump someone you have a mafia type thing on your back, the girl who you have just dumped will have her freinds heap abuse at you in every way possible. Seriously, nearly every swear in the book, sometimes in other languages. German, french, latin, it's all good.

Why would he get hate from the forum?

He's being honest and let's face it. If you were dating someone and that person saw the relationship was leading nowhere, would you prefer her to string you along, like nothing is wrong and one day approach you with the break - up, or would you prefer a direct, clean resolution?

For adolescent relationships, the method of  avoiding the conversation is acceptable, I guess. But you lot won't be teens forever.

It's not what he said, it's the way he said it, he made it seem as if he was a bastard by saying that Axel should "grow a pair".
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 30, 2008, 03:30:24 pm
Better avoid dating until those peoples mature emotionally or move to another place?

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It's not what he said, it's the way he said it, he made it seem as if he was a bastard by saying that Axel should "grow a pair".

Well, that last part wasn't really necessary but, he has a point. If a person can't even face a break - up, face, to face, then it's better not to start dating. Relationships require loads of courage and effort to work, long - term.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 30, 2008, 03:33:03 pm
It's the curse of England, chavs are infecting everyone, seriously, one day she could be a perfectly nice girl, the next day she'll start wanting to hang out on the street with 50 other people, the day after that she'll start drinking Alchoholic cider and then they're lost, forever.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 30, 2008, 03:35:31 pm
Ah, she'll grow out of it. The question is, will she come out of it undamaged.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 30, 2008, 03:39:06 pm
I gave up caring about whether the chavs will grow out of it a long time ago, because, quite frankly, and with the least amount of rudeness, they should burn in hell.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 30, 2008, 04:27:05 pm
Chavs are indeed the scourge of all England.

If they were to suddenly all die, and this is the truth, England would be a far, far better place.

There would be an almost 100% decrease in crime, for starters.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: The Time Traveller on May 30, 2008, 04:28:28 pm
Would the population change be noticable or not?  In America sometimes it feels like removing all the idiots would kill most, other times it seems like most people are pretty smart.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 30, 2008, 04:35:25 pm
Oh it'd definitely be noticeable.

Well...there are different levels of chav.

There is the chav who just dresses like a tw@ and says stuff like "brap"

Then you have proper chavs, who carry knives and stab people for dirty looks (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3105799.ece).
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 30, 2008, 04:54:19 pm
Well, my country has loads of African people but what's the point of whinning and complaining of the crime a percent of those africans do?

None. So, forget about the chavs, whatever those are, and just work your way out of your location.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Axelgear on May 30, 2008, 05:04:17 pm
I don't understand why people of African descent cause more crime. Asians, Japanese people especially, have been discriminated against just as much, if not more, in the past 50 years. In both Canada and America, they lost EVERYTHING and had to start over from scratch, something most Black people can't say happened to them in the last 50 years, and immigrants from China are much the same. They still managed to thrive, so we know it's not poverty. Could just be the culture that's been perpetuated throughout Black parts of society, but still...

Well, that last part wasn't really necessary but, he has a point. If a person can't even face a break - up, face, to face, then it's better not to start dating. Relationships require loads of courage and effort to work, long - term.

Yeah, boy do I know that. For me, though, break-ups have always resulted from the girl not communicating with me or becoming interested in someone else. That, and distance...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 30, 2008, 05:15:10 pm
Because they have no academic Education. At least, valid in Europe.  Their only option is construction work and even that, has a limit. Do remember that the construction business has already quite a few Ukranians, Brazilians, Polish, Russians etc.

They end up turning to crime because they cannot get jobs, plus, many are here as illegal aliens. They don't speak the langauge(regardless of the place they come from was a Portuguese colony) and they aren't ready to fit in an European Society.

It's already quite hard for a born Portuguese with academic Education to get a job(heck, most people with University diplomas cannot get a job in here), what makes you think that Africans over here, would have it easier or in the same equality of the native population?

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That, and distance...

Long - distance relationships are really hard. Experienced people, older by far than me have a hard time with it, but you know. Every couple is different. I've been 3 years long - Distance with my girlfriend and the distance and lack of physical contact made us talk a lot, a lot more, share our feelings etc, easily, since, conversation, is basically all we had, lol.


You know, funny story.

I used to go to a run off the mill middle school. A really bad location. I went to that school for at least 2 years. I was assaulted there by an african man. Fast forward years, a couple of teen blacks, well dressed, tried to assault me at the bus stop of the High school. Fast forward another year, and another two black teenagers tried to steal my Mp3 player, at yet, another bus stop lol.

What prevented that assault was my observations. I was checking out both of the kids with the corner of my eyes. The moment I look to a car in front of me, I sense movement and heck, those two teens were moving like a cheeta does, when has prey in it's mind... I turned, they stopped and I moved to the other side of the street, lol. They forego the robbery and went, I guess, home.

It's just funny, you know. I've interacted with some bad characters in my life(white), a drug addicted lived in my building(who's mother was really good friend's with mine) and the only time my physical integrity has been in risk, was because of black people.

I'm not saying that they should be prevented from coming here, only that the govt. should let in people worthy of coming to my country, not the deadbeats that I've seen in public night schools(and trust me, they are full of black kids who go there just to play football and pass time).

bottom line, the next generation of africans over here, get no education, thus, they will turn to crime to survive...oh, and that woman right up my street who got stabbed over 50 cents by a black guy, might have a worse opinion ;)

I dunno, but seeing so many Africans and Brazilians, sometimes does pisses me off. I'd just like to put my foot outside the building(but hey, even my building is full of Africans and Brazilians and a polish couple,  nevermind those 5 ukranians that lived here last year) without feeling I am in Africa, minus the palm trees and the awesome beaches.

Plus, a lot of people are scared of going out during the night due to the crimes etc. Myself, I've been approached three times, during the night by guess who, blacks, for silly reasons like "do you have hours?" (obviously he wanted to see if I had a cell phone) or, that other fella who called on me from a long distance to ask me, where the nearest mac restaurant was. Heck, it was 10 meters away, but mkay...)

 ;)


Oh yeah, during the first years of my childhood in school, there were really few africans or foreigners. I remember, from grade 1 to grade 4, I only had 1 black in the entire school and that guy, he ended up making the teacher have such a mental break- down(he actually beat her up too)that she can't talk, move, or eat on her. For life. He's now in jail and has been for some years >_>.

I dunno, do they have the right to come here? Yes, they do. But what for..? :-\
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 30, 2008, 05:49:54 pm
Well, my country has loads of African people but what's the point of whinning and complaining of the crime a percent of those africans do?

None. So, forget about the chavs, whatever those are, and just work your way out of your location.

Well chavs isn't a racial thing. It's a sect of society, like goths, emos, skaters.

Except these ones spend their entire time terrorizing people, shoplifting and vandalising stuff. When they aren't doing that they're out getting pregnant at 13 and binge drinking at 10.

Seriously, it's one of the major problems for Britain.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sasha on May 30, 2008, 06:41:30 pm
Ah. I understand now. I thought chavs was some kind of foreigns. My country has something similar to chavs, we call them "Mitras". they basically try to imitate the whole hip - hop culture, same clothing style, mentality, life choices etc. We have problems with those, because of their anti social tendencies and in some cases, violence against people. They tend to associate more with people under their conditions of upbringing, so they tend a lot to be with black people.(but they are white).
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Haseri on June 03, 2008, 11:56:55 am
Where I'm from if you want to dump someone you have a mafia type thing on your back, the girl who you have just dumped will have her freinds heap abuse at you in every way possible. Seriously, nearly every swear in the book, sometimes in other languages. German, french, latin, it's all good.

Chavs can speak latin? That would actually be quite funny. The best way to deal with them, Plank, is to know you are better than them in each and every way. Then run as far away as you can, whenever you get the chance.

Me and my friends were going to do a mockumentary based on chavs this summer. And by mock, I mean MOCK
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: emmet on June 03, 2008, 12:00:42 pm
Do it!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on June 03, 2008, 12:34:39 pm
father smashed in my computer may be gone for long time since now he is making me buy a new one and pay for electric bill
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on June 03, 2008, 12:35:37 pm
I'm sorry but what the hell is wrong with your family?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: HanianKnight on June 04, 2008, 04:03:12 pm
Is the Chav subculture a new thing in Britain? Because (in the U.S.) I've grown up with the whole "gangtsa" subculture and have never felt this much hate for them. Yes they're stupid, but thats where I stop caring about them.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on June 04, 2008, 04:04:49 pm
From what I understand, chavs are like ganstas, but they aren't all talk. They actually are thugs and delinquents.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on June 04, 2008, 04:07:57 pm
Is the Chav subculture a new thing in Britain? Because (in the U.S.) I've grown up with the whole "gangtsa" subculture and have never felt this much hate for them. Yes they're stupid, but thats where I stop caring about them.

You'll start caring when they come after you like they did me!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: The Time Traveller on June 04, 2008, 04:08:35 pm
father smashed in my computer may be gone for long time since now he is making me buy a new one and pay for electric bill
Seriously, I suggest you call 911.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on June 04, 2008, 04:15:47 pm
From what I understand, chavs are like ganstas, but they aren't all talk. They actually are thugs and delinquents.

Well they kinda model themselves on Gangstas. It's in the new English dictionary. Some people joke it's an acronym for "council housed and violent."

Basically, they're wannabe ganstas.

They wear tracksuits, carry knives, write graffiti and listen to hiphop on their mobile phone speakers whilst using words like "blud" for mate. They walk up to people that give them "dirty looks" and ask them if "they're startin'." Basically, they're a bunch of absolute w*****s.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: HanianKnight on June 04, 2008, 04:25:13 pm
They use the word "blud" for a friend? They totally stole that from the Blood gang in the U.S.! At least be original.


Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on June 04, 2008, 04:34:02 pm
They use the word "blud" for a friend? They totally stole that from the Blood gang in the U.S.! At least be original.




They also use "book" for cool, because it comes up on predictive text.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on July 13, 2008, 08:10:28 am
Did I do something wrong, or is he blowing it way out of proportion?

Last night, I was talking to a mate on msn. He told me that later that night he was going clubbing with these female twins we both know. Now, these girls aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, me and this guy have a running joke going that conversations with them on msn are always painfully short.
Anyway, tonight I decided to attempt talking to one on, and I asked her if she had fun last night with her sister and our mutual friend. As usual the conversation was clinically dead after 5 lines, and I told my mate about it. I basically paraphrased the conversation, which basically went like this:
Me: Have fun last night?
Her: Huh?
Me: didn't you go clubbing with *mutual friend*?
Her: yeah

This is where it gets odd.
He is basically having a hissy fit, it was basically him saying stuff like "how could you that" etc, and how I should get social skills and stuff. He then went off line, and may or may not have blocked me.

So, did I do something really bad, or is he taking this really out of proportion?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultramarine on July 13, 2008, 08:16:08 am
No, I don't see it as you doing something wrong.

And having those girls being not the brightest in the bunch it's probably there fault really.
Not saying it is but that's just a theory, sometimes you're just not compatible with others; trust me it happens :P

As for your friend, if he isn't a prick, I doubt he would put you on his block list.
Him throwing a hissy fit is just ridiculous though, if he did, he might have just wanted to get offline.
Who knows but don't draw the conclusion that it's your fault, not enough evidence and it's not good to pin the blame on yourself.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on July 14, 2008, 02:48:19 am
What SL said.

That was barely enough a reason for someone to get mad at you, in my opinion. I mean, that was a completely normal conversation you had there. :-\

You better ask him why he got upset when you get the chance.

Things like this can grow into ridiculous proportions sometimes.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Daxx on July 14, 2008, 06:11:08 am
Perhaps you should try to find out what exactly was the problem. You may have said something you're not telling us that you think is innocent, or you may have said something that got taken the wrong way. Alternatively you may have done something you shouldn't, or not done something you should. Asking someone what the problem is, is almost always the best option.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on January 22, 2009, 04:37:53 pm
Hey folks, I'm lonely!

And I don't mean that in the "I don't get invited to parties" way. (http://This is not a trap.)

Now someone continue the tradition of asking a personal question to receive terrible advice, as was meant to be in this thread.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on January 22, 2009, 04:41:27 pm
Yo dawg, I herd you liek girls so I put a girl in yo girl so you can make out while you make out.

Or other things, dawg.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 22, 2009, 04:50:19 pm
okay I got a problem....I got a splinter and it hurts  :'(
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on January 22, 2009, 05:00:05 pm
*kisses it* There, all bettah.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on January 22, 2009, 05:00:31 pm
Option A: Get a needle (preferably sterile) and pick it out. Suturing needles will work. Seriously.
Option B: Knife. Careful with this one...ok, no don't use a knife. Very small tweezers?
Option C: Hospital. This step depends on how large the splinter is and how long it stays there. Larger, deeper, and the longer it stays painful...well, yeah.

Or just yank it out. I recommend needletweezers.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Null on January 22, 2009, 05:01:08 pm
Hey folks, I'm lonely!

And I don't mean that in the "I don't get invited to parties" way. (http://This is not a trap.)

Now someone continue the tradition of asking a personal question to receive terrible advice, as was meant to be in this thread.

What Z said. Internet cant help you with that kind of lonely. Well, this kind of site can't, anyway.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: eropS on January 22, 2009, 05:02:13 pm
Sure we can, we can provide internet support (thats the best kind of support).
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on January 22, 2009, 05:03:33 pm
I'd like to file a report with tech support.

My introvert unit is malfunctioning.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Null on January 22, 2009, 05:09:14 pm
So reroute power to the extrovert system to compensate.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: /lurk on January 22, 2009, 05:10:32 pm
Your cranial unit is clearly too cold.

Replace your insulation.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 22, 2009, 05:10:48 pm
Option A: Get a needle (preferably sterile) and pick it out. Suturing needles will work. Seriously.
Option B: Knife. Careful with this one...ok, no don't use a knife. Very small tweezers?
Option C: Hospital. This step depends on how large the splinter is and how long it stays there. Larger, deeper, and the longer it stays painful...well, yeah.

Or just yank it out. I recommend needletweezers.

Knifed it out since it seemed the most manly
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 22, 2009, 05:20:42 pm
I'd like to file a report with tech support.

My introvert unit is malfunctioning.

Remove 2/3s of your brain and call me back if you feel anything.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 22, 2009, 06:22:54 pm
Be more horrible to people. That will win them over.

>:D
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 22, 2009, 06:29:55 pm
Be more horrible to people. That will win them over.

>:D

How about we just be more horrible to you, that way you'll love us more!

>:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on January 22, 2009, 06:37:49 pm
Type Advice dog into a google image search and take you pick all the options seem pretty sound.

Alternatively if not happy with the amount of paties in your life you can throw your own party... with black jack and hookers. (heck a party with plenty of black jack sounds fun can I be invited?)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on January 22, 2009, 06:59:48 pm
Drug dealing is /obviously/ the best way to get friends as a teen.

(sarcasm)

Seriously...drugs are bad. mmmmkay?


edit: Speaking of which...I think only...5 people out of maybe 20 are not stoners in my bio class.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 22, 2009, 07:02:54 pm
Hey, I'm not a teen any more! I've got no more problems! Yaaaay!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 22, 2009, 07:05:42 pm
Now all you have to do is make it through your mid-life crisis and you'll be home free!  :D
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 22, 2009, 07:21:05 pm
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2856/ohgodoh1.gif)

OH GOD!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on January 22, 2009, 07:31:45 pm
It's alright Pat you just buy a convertible, start sleeping with your daughters best friend, pick up guitar and fancy your self the next Hendrix oh and when you start going bald you grow the rest of your hair into a pony tail.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 22, 2009, 07:33:53 pm
My hair is already going gray (and I love it). Soon enough I'll be able to play the crazy old man card and insult women and minorities!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on January 22, 2009, 10:53:03 pm
Heh, I'm always saying things like "When I'm a crazy old man (slight pause) in about five years, I'm gonna *insert crazy old man antics here.*"  I want to look like the Professor from The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe when I'm old.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on January 23, 2009, 12:21:43 pm
Now all you have to do is make it through your mid-life crisis and you'll be home free!  :D
That's a myth. After that comes death. ;)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 23, 2009, 02:18:11 pm
Oh noes! I better find a religion quick!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 23, 2009, 03:42:40 pm
May I suggest a religion where the afterlife involves being a ghost bound to my service?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Legodragonxp on January 23, 2009, 04:10:16 pm
Now all you have to do is make it through your mid-life crisis and you'll be home free!  :D
That's a myth. After that comes death. ;)
What? I want my unending train of Playboy bunnies!
-Lego
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on January 23, 2009, 04:14:42 pm
I'm telling your wife!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: emmet on January 24, 2009, 01:31:29 am
Sounds like Lego is looking for Islam.

*Hands pamphlet*
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 24, 2009, 01:32:46 am
Sounds like Lego is looking for Islam.

*Hands pamphlet*

*Dials phone*

Hello, operator? Get me the FBI.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on January 24, 2009, 06:42:49 am
May I suggest a religion where the afterlife involves being a ghost bound to my service?

Or turning into a pirate-penguin hybrid and becoming my loyal vassal for all eternity.  :)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 24, 2009, 06:46:47 am
That is a stupid religion Yuu. I hope you're ready, because I'm going Jihad on your ass.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on January 24, 2009, 06:50:37 am
Jihad?! Me?!

I'm a badass frickin' overlord!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: /lurk on January 24, 2009, 06:53:51 am
Jihad?! Me?!

I'm a badass frickin' overlord!

Dood! Don't hurt us dood!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on January 24, 2009, 06:55:11 am
*hangs out sign on the door*
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n100/GamingLadyM/forum%20photos/lucy-the-doctor-is-in.jpg)

Now tell me what your problem is today so we can get back on topic.

Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 24, 2009, 01:16:50 pm
okay I got one.

So I have to make an animation for biology class and friday me and my group rushed to finish the audio. I have the job of putting it all together for the dead line, monday. Only problem is the audio is so bad It's pretty much unusable. half the lines are cut off at the beginning or you can barely hear anything.


I cant ask for an extension since monday is the last day before finals start.



What the hell do I do :-\
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 24, 2009, 01:19:32 pm
Internet...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on January 24, 2009, 02:01:37 pm
okay I got one.

So I have to make an animation for biology class and friday me and my group rushed to finish the audio. I have the job of putting it all together for the dead line, monday. Only problem is the audio is so bad It's pretty much unusable. half the lines are cut off at the beginning or you can barely hear anything.


I cant ask for an extension since monday is the last day before finals start.



What the hell do I do :-\

Redo the audio.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 24, 2009, 02:15:37 pm
I am `considering that but the thing is, theres multiple characters girls, animals etc and I am not the greatest voice actor in the seven seas. and I dont want to hurt their feelings by saying our voice acting sucked
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on January 24, 2009, 02:26:11 pm
So call them and tell them the sound got messed up, and see if they can come back and do it again.  If not, then you're gonna have to redo it.

Also, this is more of a technical difficulty than a teen problem.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 24, 2009, 02:28:42 pm
it involves teen problems also since i'm probably going to have both of them hate me over this...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on January 24, 2009, 02:36:23 pm
Then they should have done it right the first time. Call them and say that it has to be redone. If they can't come help you then you'll have to redo it yourself and they can't complain. Sounds like your getting the brunt of the work.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: /lurk on January 24, 2009, 02:42:01 pm
Take helium. Record new voice track.


Replace end of video with Rickroll.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 24, 2009, 02:43:28 pm
bird of the word is playing during credits
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on January 25, 2009, 03:23:20 am
re-do what you can't salvage. Use what ever you can if u can get any of them in do that if not find voices where u can. mum/dad/computer voice synths(can't be any worse then hirhering Keanu Reeves).
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 25, 2009, 06:01:57 am
Tell your biology teacher to stop ****ing around and letting you do big elaborate videos instead of learning things <_<
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 25, 2009, 12:37:14 pm
But that's exactly how you learn things. It's how I managed to learn the deeper aspects of a Tale of Two Cities in only 5 minutes!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 25, 2009, 02:34:51 pm
I said screw it and used the bad audio along with minor tweaks. It's so bad I wanted to puke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiDD9zyaJ9Q
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 25, 2009, 02:38:44 pm
Wow... That's really bad...  :-X
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: C-4 Dude on January 25, 2009, 02:44:32 pm
If you get pasted all the crappy audio its actually pretty funny.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Veraal on January 25, 2009, 02:47:05 pm
I

LOVED

IT
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on January 25, 2009, 03:28:01 pm
I'd say you did very well considering technical difficulties.  However, it's a bit... silly.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on January 25, 2009, 07:15:48 pm
It's not that bad but the music lasts a long time.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: gec05 on January 25, 2009, 07:17:09 pm
Are you going to Rickroll the class? :P
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 25, 2009, 07:26:28 pm
I needed to at least make it seem long  ::)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on January 26, 2009, 02:56:21 am
It...

is...

beautiful!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: gec05 on January 26, 2009, 10:57:41 am
This is a high school level project, right?

Because that's the kind of quality they are most of the time.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yannick on January 26, 2009, 11:17:58 am
HOLY CRAP THE REFERENCES.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 26, 2009, 11:24:23 am
To be honest, I did an RE project on the Flying Spaghetti Monster. High School project really don't have to be good.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yannick on January 26, 2009, 11:28:24 am
I did my morals class on the IPU :D
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on January 31, 2009, 10:57:40 pm
I'm frustrated.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on January 31, 2009, 11:42:28 pm
The question is what? Booze, pot, women, the new Turtledove book? What?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: smjjames on February 01, 2009, 05:19:32 am
yea, what exactly are you talking about here?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Veraal on February 01, 2009, 06:36:05 am
Very rare Pokémon cards?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on February 01, 2009, 07:09:38 am
He might be exaggerating. I sent you a pm.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: /lurk on February 01, 2009, 10:57:13 am
Brandon can't get no satisfaction!
He can't get no girl with action!
'Cause he tries and he tries and he tries and he tries
He can't get no! He can't get no!
No no no!

Honestly Brandon there's only one thing anyone ever talks about like that.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on February 01, 2009, 11:02:05 am
Honestly /lurk.

You're mistaken.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 01, 2009, 11:03:20 am
Brandon can't get no satisfaction!
He can't get no girl with action!
'Cause he tries and he tries and he tries and he tries
He can't get no! He can't get no!
No no no!

Honestly Brandon there's only one thing anyone ever talks about like that.

Is that the mistake?

>_>
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Veraal on February 01, 2009, 11:07:12 am
Hoo, boy.

I'm leaving.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: gec05 on February 01, 2009, 11:07:51 am
You have a bad case of covetousness.

Prognosis, I suggest a healthy does of contentmentolivoxor.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: eropS on February 02, 2009, 07:37:10 pm
What he said.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: B.A.S. on February 04, 2009, 01:22:07 pm
Too many big words my mind is blown. My current problem is, I moved to my Dads place in Northern Alberta(Moneys good, so im here for 3 months saving up for School). I dont care that its -32 out but theres alot of things that have been bugging me that I just NEED to vent about.

First of all I usually dont discuss my problems online, but I dunno it seems easier to vent on here where nobody really knows me. So here I go.

All my friends are in British Columbia, I didnt really spend alot of time with my Mom or Dad. Lived with my Mom for most of my teen years and she has her problems so my Family was my friends and there family. So basically its like im gone from my Family.

My Dad really doesnt know me and he never has to time to really hang out with me and get to know me. So its tough.

Third, FortMcMurray the place im living, is an absolute mess. Now im not one of those gangster kids that thinks hes in some hell hole but this place really sucks. Theres alot of drugs down here and fights happen at the bars ALL the time. I remember my friend said "If your looking for a Fight go to one of the bars because your guarenteed to find one there". Now I dont mind a good tilly but I dont want to get stabbed afterwards, so this frustrates me greatly.

Fourth, the Woman I was having a relationship with before I left for FortMcMurray got it in her head to be with another guy. We had a big long talk and I said be with people and have fun but when I get back your with me again and we both agree'd to that but for some damn reason Im extremely angry with the whole situation. Partly because the guy was creeping around with her before I left and now he wants to fight me when I get back (Hes a punk, nothing the Muay Thai clinch wont handle), I dunno though the situation bugs me.

And thats about that, I should add I dont really go out anymore because im so damn...scared to go out. Ive heard stories of people getting sent to the Hospital and just alot of Chaos going on at parties, its ridiculous...so I think im getting a bit of cabin fever.

/Rant over...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on February 04, 2009, 02:15:31 pm
Spend the time to do some serious training when you get back have an offical bout against him and make sure he has to be carried out of the ring.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on February 04, 2009, 04:04:19 pm
I suggest you run away and move to California, it's warm over here and filled with hot girls...

/jk

Anyway, to be frank, you've got to tell this to your dad. He's the one with the power over you life and he can make things change. Tell him about your problems and such and tell him you want to leave. Talking is the first step of solving any problem.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on February 04, 2009, 07:38:11 pm
Except that he wants to be there to raise money for school.  I believe you that the place you're in now is a hellhole, but surely there's something to do in town that doesn't involve going to bars or getting stabbed.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on February 05, 2009, 05:07:39 am
It might be a good time to stay home and play video games. You might also save a lot of money by not going to bars. It's only 3 months.

As far as the girl it sure seems like a case of the "cats away". Not sure why you have to beat up the other guy, your girl made the choice to step out, takes two you know. It shouldn't matter if he was creeping around, she still went with him. Cut her loose and when you get back you might feel differently about her.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 05, 2009, 06:42:36 am
Yeah, ditch the girl. Seems like a classic case of "I've been having an affair so I think we should have an 'open relationship' as a prelude to me eventually dumping you".

Happens on tv all the time >_>
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Uroboros on February 05, 2009, 09:47:01 am
Cheating. Suspicious use of 'open relationship'. I second KS's verdict.
Some peoples simply aren't worth the trouble, and by the looks of it, you're better off with her gone. It sucks, but at least you found out her true colours sooner rather than later. Besides, the other guy sounds like a thuggish kid-nobody *******, when the eventuality of him cheating on her/dumping her/descending into a miserable relationship due to childish behaviour... she'll get her due come-uppance.

Blunt as it is : There are more fish in the sea.
Ones worth keeping, too.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on February 05, 2009, 02:11:20 pm
Blunt as it is : There are more sea-kittens in the sea.
Ones worth keeping, too.

Fixed. Other than that everyone has given far better advice than I have so go for the pre-emptive dump.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Null on February 05, 2009, 02:17:48 pm
As if his fighting you will make her suddenly like him or something... I would go so far as to say that if she has any knowledge of his/your intentions to fight and has not moved to intervene in any real way then she's playing you both and/or likes the idea of guys fighting over her... dump her.

Of what you have said on this I can't say I see any real convincing argument for keeping her in a serious relationship.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Legodragonxp on February 05, 2009, 02:39:50 pm
If someone wants to fight you over a girl and the girl thinks it is even remotely reasonable.... just walk away from both of them. It isn't worth it. -Lego
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on February 06, 2009, 11:42:18 am
So I've been stalking someone I like all week because I couldn't work up the courage to speak to them.

Seeing their reaction while they were telling their friends (who didn't see me standing in the shadows nearby) gives me the feeling I may have screwed up.

Maybe if I want to befriend someone, I shouldn't overtly creep behind them.

<_<
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on February 06, 2009, 11:44:57 am
Yeah, people generally don't like being stalked.  You probably shouldn't do that.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Haseri on February 06, 2009, 12:01:49 pm
Did that to a girl once...did not go down well...at least I'm back on speaking term with her now...and the flesh eating fungus has finally gone. Wait...that's something unrelated. Moving on!

Try to find something that you both share in common. Do you have any classes with her? Where do you see her?

Write her a note. Apologise for scaring her at least in the note. I didn't and...well, she just forgot over the summer.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on February 06, 2009, 12:13:07 pm
*cough*

Him.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Haseri on February 06, 2009, 12:19:50 pm
Oh. Well. Ah. Um. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlefrc5vfw02fb7

I think it still stands though. Notes are good. It's like telling somone something, but without speaking to them! Worked for me!

Despite the fact she didn't say anthing about it, but at least she read it.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Great Distance on February 06, 2009, 04:45:56 pm
Hey, nothing wrong with stalking people! I do it all the time!

Which is probably why everyone thinks I'm kinda weird and creepy.

I would say more but that would ruin the joke.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on February 06, 2009, 04:47:01 pm
Stalking isn't just fun, it's a way of life!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: /lurk on February 06, 2009, 05:34:36 pm
*cough*

Him.

Hey so I was right!

Outside of a minor matter of semantics.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 06, 2009, 05:37:56 pm
Hey Brandon, where did you get that shirt?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Legodragonxp on February 06, 2009, 06:59:59 pm
Ah yes stalkers. Last one I dealt with I left a live 357 magnum round on his windshield wiper with a note that read "You keep following her and these might start following you." He called the cops on me (he guessed it was me).

Mistake.

He said I was terrorising him (no proof).  I had ten people that could vouch for my whereabouts for the last full 24 hours. (paying for the beer helps :) )

He said that he was looking out for the girls safety. Cops asked the girl, she said that he wouldn't leave her alone and had been following her everywhere. When the guy confirmed it the nice police officer explained to him that his help wasn't needed and was issue a written warning to the effect of 'stay away from her' in municiple legalese.

Stalking laws are a little better now. Back then (1994ish) it was impossible to prove stalking without video camera and a dead body.

-Lego
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on February 06, 2009, 07:58:33 pm
Geez, and I thought I was protective.

-Note to self: never mess with any friend of Lego.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Null on February 07, 2009, 03:30:18 pm
So I've been stalking someone I like all week because I couldn't work up the courage to speak to them.

Seeing their reaction while they were telling their friends (who didn't see me standing in the shadows nearby) gives me the feeling I may have screwed up.

Maybe if I want to befriend someone, I shouldn't overtly creep behind them.

<_<


 Yeah, you dont want to go from being "that guy" to "that creep"

I have never, ever understood what people hope to accomplish by following other people like that. Well, unless their goal is to freak that person out. In that they are undoubtedly successful.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: smurfslayer on February 07, 2009, 04:12:08 pm
So I met this girl a while ago and we became friends. She's really awesome. Extremely geeky (more so than I am), always honest, and very attractive. So we started hanging out. I wasn't able to see her that often because she lives sorta far away but we talked a lot. Unfortunately, right when it seemed like we were crossing the threshold from friends to being something more, she got a new job and became extremely busy. We still talk occasionally but I haven't seen her in over a month. She says she misses me and stuff, and I told her the same thing. So I was happy just being friends with her and waiting 'till she has some free time to see her again and then see what happens.

But then something totally unexpected happened. Another girl who I had a big crush on for years messages me on MySpace and basically asks me out. So now I'm just confused as hell. I really do like both girls. I have no clue when I'll get to see the first girl again and I don't even know if she likes me as more than just a friend. Then again I don't know if the other girl does either but it definitely seems like it. It's just so ridiculously ironic I cannot even wrap my head around it. Had this girl wanted to go out with me at any point before this I would have been ecstatic but now it's just making things complicated. I never asked her out because I used to have really bad self-esteem issues and basically no confidence. Well now that isn't the case and I'm much more outgoing. For years all I wanted was a chance with one girl. Now instead I have a chance with two and I'm not sure what to do.

For now I'm just going to roll with this and see what happens. I'm gonna call the second girl back tonight and confirm plans. Regardless of what happens, I like both of them as friends and if nothing happens with either, I'm okay with that. I'm just afraid that they both like me and then one of them gets mad and I end up losing both.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on February 07, 2009, 05:41:36 pm
Sounds like your in the middle of your typical lovers triangle.  :-\
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on February 07, 2009, 06:37:00 pm
Your situation reminds me of a song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir8ZIaPyYXE

So give me a try at describing just how difficult it is.
When you kinda love two girls to figure out which one you miss.
Stumble away from your stairway with your perfume on my clothes.
Well I kinda loved two girls but now I've kinda lost 'em both.

...Yeah, that doesn't help much, and I don't have any advice.  But on the plus side, I do love your avatar, Smurfslayer.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Little on February 07, 2009, 06:46:41 pm
Ah yes stalkers. Last one I dealt with I left a live 357 magnum round on his windshield wiper with a note that read "You keep following her and these might start following you." He called the cops on me (he guessed it was me).
-Lego

That is the most awesome way of dealing with that situation I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: smurfslayer on February 07, 2009, 07:26:35 pm
So yeah, it turns out what I thought was a date is really a group thing. Which is fine. It's actually kinda a relief. Honestly I really can't complain about the situation I'm in right now because it's pretty much a win-win. Worst case scenario, they both want to be me friend. Which means I get two awesome friends. Best case scenario, one of them does like me more than that and we hit it off.

And about the avatar, I got bored today and made it in photoshop. I think it turned out quite well.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on February 26, 2009, 09:48:41 pm
Well, I'm 22, so this is hardly a teen problem, but this seemed like the most fitting thread.  So I'm in this group at my college, and all the freshmen girls in this group, wishing they could still go to prom, have put together this "winter formal."  I think the whole thing is rather silly, but whatever. 

To go or not to go, that is the question.  One one hand, I don't dance and I can't say that I'm all that interested in any of the girls in the group, which is why this didn't go in the love thread. 

On the other hand, the girls keep asking me to come to the dance.  Do they just want more guys at the thing to even the numbers out? Do the want the senior guy to come?  Do they have a secret crush and I'm just thick? (Secret crush is doubtful, the fact that I'm painfully oblivous to such things is proven fact.)  Is it just small talk?  I dunno.  Apparently they're inviting a bunch of the foreign students, and foreign kids are fun.  If I don't go, I'll just sit around here playing tf2 or catching up on Heroes.

So what should I do, go to the dance and be awkward, or hang out in the dorm?  The formal is this friday, so answer quickly.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Uroboros on February 26, 2009, 09:59:00 pm
Go for it. You have the whole weekend to chill out, play games and catch up on TV. You never know, you might actually enjoy it. People don't exactly need to be looking for love to go to these things. Even if it turns out to not really be your thing, you might just be brightening up someones day, y'know? At worst, you could go just for the sake of morbid curiosity.

Besides, the scout update ensures the TF2 matches will be full of noobs and frustration.
Maybe this time i'll take screenshots of every person I find camping inside the spawnroom as a scout, just so they can grind their double-jump achievement... then send nasty psychic thoughts their way, willing them to destroy their mouse in a fit of ragequitting.

*steeples fingers*
Yes.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on February 27, 2009, 05:14:14 am
See if you can get a wireless signal from the formal bring your lappy and play tf2 at the formal you will be king of the night when everyone sees how well you "pwn n00bs". Alternativly just go and get drunk
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 27, 2009, 05:46:43 am
Alternatively just go and get drunk

This.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: B.A.S. on February 27, 2009, 06:31:53 am
I think you should go for it! It sounds like it has the potential to be alot of fun (Its dancing!). And who knows what could happen, it sounds like it could be something new and exciting so why not get away from the norm? You'll have plenty of time to play TF2 and what not as it will always be there, dances dont come up often. GOOOOO FOOORRR ITTT!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: /lurk on February 27, 2009, 07:52:52 am
If you own your own tuxedo, you might as well go and get some extra use out of it.

Though I must say I'm surprised that there isn't a ball that they could go to instead of having their own. Doesn't every university have a freshers ball, winter ball, graduation ball, may ball, a ball for every hall of residence and have basically every club throw their own formal event as well?

Or is my university just fetishistic about balls?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: emmet on February 27, 2009, 08:03:40 am
Oh! Oh! The second one!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on February 27, 2009, 08:10:47 am
Just to clarify: there will be no drinking at this thing, I have a desktop, not a laptop, I don't have a tux, but I have a coat and tie, my school doesn't throw any balls, there are plenty of frat parties that I ignore, but I would hardly call those balls.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: emmet on February 27, 2009, 08:14:48 am
1. Bring your own drink.
2. Buy a laptop.
3. Get one.
4. Meh.
5. THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Sinfulwolf on February 27, 2009, 08:22:19 am
Well I say go and enjoy yourself. You miss out in a lot in life if you just kick back in the dorm all the time. So, go have a good time, dance a little if you want. And you don't need to get drunk to enjoy yourself.

Unfortunately, I can't really say much about college or university. I'm 20, and decided at 18 to go to Afghanistan so I don't have experience in your particular environment.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on February 27, 2009, 10:36:46 am
Hey, hope everything's going well in Afghanistan, wolf.

So I think the girls have talked me in to going tonight.  Think I'll show up fasionably late.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on February 27, 2009, 12:30:33 pm
I'm late to this but you should go, you don't have to dance, just enjoy the music, talk to your friends and have fun. You don't have to stay a long time and if it gets boring you can leave.

We expect a full report in the morning btw.  ;)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Grangan on February 27, 2009, 04:20:02 pm
Speaking of stalkers...

I'm not a stalker, but I'm getting stalker-like habits lately.  When I'm attracted to a girl, I can't help walking slow circles around her.
What do I do to stop?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: smurfslayer on February 27, 2009, 04:21:47 pm
Stop walking circles around them?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Celdur on February 27, 2009, 04:30:03 pm
try to be more subtle than that >.>
 one angle is enough to look at <.<
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kishmond on February 27, 2009, 05:00:15 pm
I think I'd be kinda flattered if someone got to stalking me.


On second thought, no, that's creepy. I'd probably call them out early and ask if we can be friends. No stalking required!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Haseri on February 28, 2009, 01:11:14 am
As long as you're talking to her, I don't think she'd mind. But try not to do it all the time. Find something else to do. Don't just hang around her.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on February 28, 2009, 04:42:34 am
1. Bring your own drink.

Attention, everyone: the punch has been spiked. Don't worry. Your parents have been called and will be here to pick you up shortly!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on February 28, 2009, 07:14:30 am
As long as you're talking to her, I don't think she'd mind. But try not to do it all the time. Find something else to do. Don't just hang around her.
Agreed, if you're going to "stalk" someone at least talk to them. Just staring is sort of creepy unless you smile and throw in some other gestures to express interest. I briefly had a stalker once and he just did drive bys, never really talked to me. It was flattering but got kind of weird when he never said anything.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Null on February 28, 2009, 08:53:47 am
What is it with all the stalkers/stalkings here? I never heard of anyone I know in person experiencing either. Then again, its not something you usually share, but still.

*takes out cattle prod*

Just all of ya's stay on the other side of my computer screen, ya hear?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Celdur on February 28, 2009, 08:58:29 am
there is a diferance between stalking and just being shy to talk to someone >.>
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Null on February 28, 2009, 09:08:14 am
Sometimes, but sometimes that's the whole reason why too.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cow on February 28, 2009, 01:11:35 pm
If you ever consider stalking someone, don't. It just makes you seem creepy.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: MetallicDragon on February 28, 2009, 01:12:16 pm
I don't think anyone here would knowingly stalk someone.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Ultimatum on February 28, 2009, 01:13:17 pm
Stalking is likely to get you a Court Order,
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on February 28, 2009, 03:15:03 pm
Very few people stalk intentionally unless they're Special Forces members on a mission or FBI agents.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Crazen on March 01, 2009, 04:28:35 pm
I think I might have stalked people in the past...when I was a hopeless loser.

I love being this attractive
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: B.A.S. on March 01, 2009, 07:17:14 pm
What is it with all the stalkers/stalkings here? I never heard of anyone I know in person experiencing either. Then again, its not something you usually share, but still.

*takes out cattle prod*

Just all of ya's stay on the other side of my computer screen, ya hear?

I hear you Null it does seem like we have ALOT of stalkers on this place. Simple thing is if you simply go up and start conversation with someone no matter how CRAZY it seems to do such a thing, it will probably work out. If you think its weird going up to someone and starting a conversation its ALOT MORE WEIRD just starring at them and following them around...very weird.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on March 01, 2009, 09:38:01 pm
If you just keep watching from a far you can only ever hope to be a stalker with a crush and she will meet some other guy and dash any chances you had with her to begin with. Best you will ever hope for is being forever trapped in the friend zone. I've had the spend to long and losing her to another guy scenario it really is a repeted kick in the gut. Better off asking her worst case scenario she turns you down and you feel like you got kicked. If you miss your chance with her it's a kick in the gut (and while at it a few of those kicks feel like they landed a bit lower throw in a punch in the face or 2 while at it) everytime you see her with him.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Null on March 01, 2009, 10:19:26 pm
^ Yes, for sure. But its not like you're home-free if you land that person, either.

Actually, though I too am not a teen [21] this discussion is sort of related to something I am grappling with... there is this gal who likes me but it's not mutual. It has almost always been me liking them first and not vice-versa, and I don't know how to reject her without making her feel like she got emotionally kicked (or to make it feel less so). First I though I was just imagining it, then I was trying to ignore it but the last time we did something together she was wearing a small tee shirt with her belly showing and you could tell (clearly) her underwear had lace. Not something you usually see in winter, if you know? Its a girl so those things don't happen by accident. Plus she was sort of touchy, which was flattering and annoying at the same time

I have no idea how to, you know, let her down easy or something. She's nice but I'm just not attracted. She's waiting for me to ask her out or something, and girls don't usually take the initiative on this sort of thing so it is not a simple as saying no to an offer or anything. I am thinking of just saying "your really great and everything, but..." But that's still sort of harsh. I dunno, I have asked around and was just curious if you folks had a better suggestion because the consensus so far is either say that or ignore her until she goes away, so this post is in the off-chance someone here might have a useful suggestion.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on March 02, 2009, 04:27:59 am
A girl in the kebab line looked at me today. But it wasn't just a general "Hey, a random guy..." look, it lingered too long for that. Needless to say, I got a little excited, but I didn't do anything because A: I couldn't really think of what to do, and B: because I had physics work to do.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on March 02, 2009, 11:13:38 am
I have no idea how to, you know, let her down easy or something. She's nice but I'm just not attracted. She's waiting for me to ask her out or something, and girls don't usually take the initiative on this sort of thing so it is not a simple as saying no to an offer or anything. I am thinking of just saying "your really great and everything, but..." But that's still sort of harsh. I dunno, I have asked around and was just curious if you folks had a better suggestion because the consensus so far is either say that or ignore her until she goes away, so this post is in the off-chance someone here might have a useful suggestion.
This just hit a sore spot with me. I wrote more but erased it. Just be her friend and if you don't want to ask her out, then don't. You might be reading her wrong anyway. If she lets you know that she likes you then tell her then and tell her the truth. Yes, it's going to hurt but that's life. Being rejected hurts for any of us.

You might consider giving her a chance, you might actually like her.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Veraal on March 03, 2009, 04:57:20 pm
Just to change the topic,

Ergh.

I dunno, I'm feeling confused. My dad tells me that I have to get my maths grade up asap, or I'm toast when I get out of highschool, if i keep the same grade in maths i have now he says I will never get a job that i will enjoy.

He says that me playing video games all day long doesn't mean squat for my future, I guess he is right about that. He says no one is going to pay me for how good I am at playing video games. It all feels so fricking cold and cynical; having fun or doing stuff I like have no meaning at all, the only thing that matters is that i get out of highschool with absolutely heavenly grades, which seems very impossible.

My friend tells me my dad is stupid and I should just relax and pay attention to the present and not the future.
How would he know if that is a good idea or not anyway...

My sister recently got an email from some doctor university thing in england that she can come over and study there to become a doctor, good for her, made me jealous that she actually has a goal, I don't.

I have no idea at all what the hell I am going to do with my life, I think I've been nihilistic and emo a bit longer than I thought, I would think that would just pass and I'd live life to the fullest, but no, i feel that nothing matters at all.

And I thought Brandonazz was the only emo here.

I just have no idea what to do with my life, I guess(and hope) I am just thinking too much and should just relax.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: /lurk on March 03, 2009, 05:05:55 pm
Become an hero

Get good grades. It really is important - especially if you don't know what to do. No point figuring out you want to do if your grades are too rubbish to qualify for it.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on March 03, 2009, 05:09:50 pm
And I thought Brandonazz was the only emo here.

<grabs computer monitor and hurls it across the room>
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: gec05 on March 03, 2009, 05:11:05 pm
Just try to get good grades. Make that a simple goal. It won't matter if you still don't know what to do afterward, at least you have some qualifications.

You like to draw. Why not take some art classes? And then maybe be an artist for a game company.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Veraal on March 03, 2009, 05:41:38 pm
I guess.

But I also guess I'm just scared of the future and stuff. But yeah, get good grades seems good.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on March 03, 2009, 06:27:32 pm
At 17 very few people have a clue as to what they want to do with their life. Just focus on getting through High School with good grades but don't forget to have fun too. If you like video games there is nothing wrong with that. You have an outlet for stress, just don't let it dominate your life. Balance is good.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 03, 2009, 06:28:05 pm
Bah. Math-shmath. I suggest if you can't do it, try to do it at least. Just put your nose to the grind stone and keep going forward, then when the next term comes around you can always just level it down a bit or skip it altogether if you have the option.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Crazen on March 03, 2009, 06:59:29 pm
I had no problems at all! yea!

except when people called me a fag, or a retard, or a druggie, which is really kinda funny, cause I'm about the cleanest person in the whole town. and the ones calling me a druggie were the pot-heads. we live in the meth capital of America, god forbid.

         but really, those comments beneath what I register. I just learnt to pretty much ignore the meaningless insults, and just have fun with these people. thats why I laugh and smile so much.


Quote from: Stephen Lynch
If I could be a Superhero,
I would be Drug-Free Boy.
Telling the world of the evils of drugs,
and the lives that they destroy.
well I'd take all the junkies getting so high
With their needles and bongs and sticks made of thai
as I'd burn them alive and I would squeal with joy.
'Cause I would be Drug-Free Boy.


Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on March 03, 2009, 10:00:04 pm
I'm late to this but you should go, you don't have to dance, just enjoy the music, talk to your friends and have fun. You don't have to stay a long time and if it gets boring you can leave.

We expect a full report in the morning btw.  ;)

Oh, right.  Better late than never, right?

The thing started at 8, I meant to get there at 8:30, got there at about 9:00.  I kinda stood around awkwardly for a while, like I expected to do.  They started playing Thriller and about 8 people had learned the whole dance, it was spectacular.  They actually got me to dance on the last two songs, Shout and The Final Countdown.  Then a few of us went to Steak&Shake.  It ended up being pretty fun, despite awkwardness at the start.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on March 04, 2009, 04:10:38 am
Did anyone stand infront of a wind machine blowing a hanky into there face during final count down?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 04, 2009, 07:33:17 am
Que?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Inkling on March 04, 2009, 08:10:48 am
I don't remember seeing a fan in the room, but it is possible.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Uroboros on March 04, 2009, 09:33:27 am
My dad tells me that I have to get my maths grade up asap, or I'm toast when I get out of highschool, if i keep the same grade in maths i have now he says I will never get a job that i will enjoy.
Because all jobs that a person can enjoy require a straight A in maths, AMIRITE?
Higher grades are always good, and maths is really useful, but it isnt exactly necessary unless you plan to hit out in a job that it directly ties in heavily with. Programming, ugh.

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He says no one is going to pay me for how good I am at playing video games. It all feels so fricking cold and cynical; having fun or doing stuff I like have no meaning at all
It -IS- very cold. Yeah, he means well, trying to push you to put more effort in now, to give you a better head-start. You know, so you can 'hit the ground running', but when they start harping on at you too much and laying on the guilt any time you try to unwind or de-stress, that just makes things worse. As long as you make an honest effort in your studies, your relaxation time is fine. There are few people who can just work and work and work without a breather. If you study too hard, you'll eventually go into 'burnout' and make little progress, suffering endless brainfarts until you clear your head again. Whilst he might be getting on your back and sounding all judgemental and cold, you just have to remember that it would be much easier for him to say nothing and take no interest in your life, too. It can be hard to acknowledge, but : "Our parents do the best job they know how to do". Imperfect human beings as they are, that often means they have a habit of going about things the wrong way, even when their intents are good.
*sidesteps the issue of terrible parents, completely, to keep it on-track*
In the 'big bad world', most people get their jobs based on their experience, rather than their base grades. What you leave school with gauges how easy it is to get your foot in the door, so to speak. Even then, a good personality and a good interview can often do just the same for you, depending on what kind of job you try for. Still, you only get one shot at landing these grades, so if you can push them up a little more, it might be worth the effort.

Just remember that parents and siblings were invented for these reasons. To annoy the hell out of you. ;)
Don't grow to resent him, but feel free to get pissed off. Heh. Better yet, talk with your father about it, if he's the rational type (you know, not the "do as I say, not as I do" type).

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I just have no idea what to do with my life, I guess(and hope) I am just thinking too much and should just relax.
Being so young, it is hard to really get a handle on what you want to do with your life. Sure, you might have a handful of ideas of what you might want to do with it, but figuring out what you'll aim for is a different kettle of fish entirely. Still, think on it but try not to dwell. Feel free to worry, but -never- stress. ;)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Putspooza on March 04, 2009, 10:18:54 am
Actually there are people who will pay you for how good you play video games, it's called professional gaming, but I think you need to be pretty darn good at it to win all those Ubercore gamers at competitions
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on March 04, 2009, 10:22:35 am
I want to become a comedian, all I must do to get qualified for that is to cock around until I find something funny to talk about. Therefore I am writing a letter to Private Eye to see if I can get work expiance there. I doubt I'd get a job but it's worth a try,
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: MetallicDragon on March 04, 2009, 10:26:12 am
I guess I'm one of the few that really knew what I wanted to do from an early age. For at least 4-5 years (I'm 18 now) I've wanted to make video games. I initially had the dream of ultimately working for Blizzard Entertainment, and that's still my goal. I'm in college and I'm taking physics, math, and programming and they'll all help towards a future career as a game developer. All through high school I just kept my grades high enough to get into a good college (which I managed to do). What's great about getting a college degree is that with all the math and physics I'm learning, even if being a programmer doesn't work out for some reason (even though there's a very high demand for them), I could still pursue a career in robotics or physics or anything else that my education has prepared me for.

I think my point is that even though that math course may seem pointless, it opens the doors for what you can do later in life. It would suck finally knowing what you want to do but be unable to get a degree in it because you don't qualify for whatever college. I guess I'm lucky in that regard... I also have a nice grant to pay for college and parents to pay for everything else I need, for the moment.

 
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On another note, I really want to get a job but my house is far enough out of town that I can't really get a job. I could get a job on campus but I'm too scared to apply... I should go check what positions there are open, again.

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To play video games professionally and make a career out of it, you have to be REALLY good, like best-in-town just for starters.

There's also positions as video game testers, and a lifetime of playing video games would qualify you for entry level positions. It's probably not as fun as it sounds, though.


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If you want to be a comedian, join a comedy club at school and have stand-up nights and stuff. There was one at my school and there were a few people who are probably going to get a career doing that.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on March 04, 2009, 10:28:01 am
Oh come on, Private Eye!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Haseri on March 04, 2009, 10:54:16 am
You just want to get on QI don't you?

So do I...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on March 04, 2009, 10:59:39 am
QI won't be around when I'm 24 :P
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on March 04, 2009, 11:02:50 am
I want to become a comedian, all I must do to get qualified for that is to cock around until I find something funny to talk about. Therefore I am writing a letter to Private Eye to see if I can get work expiance there. I doubt I'd get a job but it's worth a try,
Being a comedian is harder than you think, I have a family member doing that now. It's not an easy thing to get well known.

As far as parents, remember that they are doing the best they can. Parents are not perfect and they don't know everything but they know things based on their life experience and probably do the best they can. If your dad is pushing you to get good math grades then maybe it's something he wished he had done. To be honest most employers are not going to look at your math grade when you are hired. They look to see if you graduated, if you went to college and what you did that relates to the job you want. They don't care that you played video games. If the job is one that requires good math skills then they'll expect you to know it when your hired.

College and degrees just open more doors for you. You can still make it in life but it might be harder.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Haseri on March 04, 2009, 11:35:28 am
Let's see, they're on series 6 "F". 20 more to go.

I doubt Stephen Fry will still be doing it towards the end though.

And I'm pretty sure they'll run out of things to find.

"And tonight, sticking with our 'V' theme for the series, we are discussing Vore. Alan what would you say if I offered you my..."

Something like that.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on March 04, 2009, 11:40:55 am
I want to become a comedian, all I must do to get qualified for that is to cock around until I find something funny to talk about. Therefore I am writing a letter to Private Eye to see if I can get work expiance there. I doubt I'd get a job but it's worth a try,

Hey, why the hell not?

That would be quality experience. But probably hard to then go to standup.

And if you can't think of something funny to talk about soon...then probably rethink your career choice.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on March 04, 2009, 12:01:02 pm
I would tell you one of the stand-up anecdotes that I already have planned. I would post it but I can't for two reasons:

A) It's not as funny typed out

B) Someone might steal it.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Great Distance on March 04, 2009, 12:26:08 pm
I'm planning to do all courses of math, physics and chemistry just because I don't know if I might need them some day. Everything would be just a lot easier if I knew what I was going to do after high school already. Right now I'm just concentrating on keeping all the doors open.

Getting to art school is an option, but those are rare and hard to get to in Finland, so I need to have a backup plan of some sort. I like psychology and biology, so something related to either of those would be cool. My dad apparently thinks I should become a doctor. Makes sense, I suppose, considering that I'm also going to take health education at school, but I don't think I've really got the guts for anything like that. I'm not too sociable, which I guess you would need to be to take care of dying sick people. My only reason to ever become a doctor would be watching too many hospital series on TV. I don't think that would fly well in an interview.

Also, the dilemma of being an artist because I want to or being a doctor because my dad wants me to is so hilariously cliche, I love it.

There are also other options than those two, of course. Just saying.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Legodragonxp on March 04, 2009, 01:01:53 pm
Playing videogames is how I made my living for the last 10+ years. :)

-Lego

OK, I suppose I should explain that.

While doing my 7 years as a school bus driver I worked from 5:30am to 5:30pm. When you are deal tired by 10pm everynight you do not have much of a social life (comparitively, I got myself in plenty of trouble anyways) so I played a lot of video games. When a new game was coming out that required a computer upgrade, I learned how to do it myself. When Y2k came along anybody that could work on a computer at all was hired.. and off I went, I learned the rest on the job.

Does this mean that you can too? Probably not.

Here is a little bit of busniess knowledge for you folks entering the job market. You know all those ads for computer training and computer careers you see on TV now? Those are being run by out-of-work computer trainers trying to drum up business for themselves. In most major cities the computer market is saturated. It is so bad right now that a good job at another company for me would be a 20-25% pay CUT.

For me Y2k was and emergency situation and I got in the back door.

-Lego
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: emmet on March 04, 2009, 01:22:13 pm
I got a 43% on my big maths test. A 40% is a pass. I'm glad, but my parent'll be pissed.

Does anyone else have the problem off repetition? My life repeats itself in the long term and it's horrible to think I'll be doing the same thing in a month or year. The things that keep me going are things I look forward too, but they come and go way too fast.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Veraal on March 04, 2009, 02:36:54 pm
Like what?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on March 04, 2009, 03:46:50 pm
I never had a good education..and i regret it, But its not preventing me from succeeding in life, Bad lucks doing that. All i have to do is get my license and GED and ill be on track, But i need money that requires a job, And for almost a year now nobody has called me in for an interview. No one.

Me and my girlfriend live with my parents and i hate mooching off them. When i do get money i try o help them out since they are pretty poor too.

I don't know what i want to do once i get on track. My only focus is getting on track.

For awhile..i wanted to be a cop.

For a long long time i wanted to be an actor...still do but every time i see on the news or TV shows how much they get followed around and bothered it reminds me how much i DON"T want that.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gungnir on March 04, 2009, 04:09:34 pm
Uhh...I got a B once...in Pre-Calculus. Err...right, good luck with that whole...thing.


Right, anyway, speaking of which...for those people who go to school in the US, in high school, is an A considered 90-100, or 93-100? In south carolina it's the second...B's are 85-92, C's are 77-84, D's are 70-76, 69 and below is an F.

How does it normally go? Because I'm pretty sure SC is unique about this..
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 04, 2009, 04:24:20 pm
100-90: A

89-80:B

79-70:C

69-60:D

59 and lower:F

That's also not counting the pluses and minuses.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on March 04, 2009, 06:22:28 pm
I've maintained near to a square one hundred all year in Pre-Calculus.

So nyah.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: MetallicDragon on March 04, 2009, 06:44:30 pm
Psh, Pre-calc is cake. Come back when you can integrate (x + 3)/(x^2 + 4x -5) using partial fraction decomposition.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on March 04, 2009, 06:46:00 pm
Yeah well I'm third in a class of like 500 - some people.

So there.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 04, 2009, 06:56:45 pm
Here is a little bit of busniess knowledge for you folks entering the job market. You know all those ads for computer training and computer careers you see on TV now? Those are being run by out-of-work computer trainers trying to drum up business for themselves. In most major cities the computer market is saturated. It is so bad right now that a good job at another company for me would be a 20-25% pay CUT.

For me Y2k was and emergency situation and I got in the back door.

-Lego

I'm hoping to get my foot in the door of am unexpected biotech explosion.

Employer: "This degree isn't very good, and its from a university that barely scratches the top 50 list"
Me: "Yes, but look, it says 'Microbiology' on it"
Employer: "WE'LL GIVE YOU AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU WANT"

Yup... here's hoping!  :P
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Kcronos on March 04, 2009, 09:17:58 pm
I'm dying over here.  I think I'm going crazy.  :'(

I have to take five AP courses this year, including Calculus AB AP, Chemistry AP (Oh God!), and Physics Mechanics AP!

Yesterday I had to cram for a five chapter test in World History AP, and I had to basically learn Rate Laws, Integrated Rate Laws, and Equilibrium for a Chem test today.  Today I have to prepare for a debate about "The Awakening" for English AP!

Not only that, but I have to prepare for Nationals for Acro (level 8), and I'm also scheduled to take the Trinity Piano grade 8 exam for this year.

Every time I slack off (when I have time), I am constantly reminded that I have five college exams to study for by May, and due to the economic depression, my college fund has been cut in half.  That means my parents are also on my case (If you don't get a 5 for the exams, you aren't getting a scholarship!), and frankly, I don't think I'm going to make it.  I have a pathological fear of working, which is only rivaled by my fear of failing.

Is there anyone else out there with a similar situation? (Probably not.  All the others probably aren't wasting their time posting on internet forums...)  :-\
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 04, 2009, 09:45:14 pm
Aye, I got a thousand word paper due Friday that I haven't even started and an oral assignment for Spanish, complete with poster and another full report due tomorrow. Thankfully, I'm good at cramming and bull****ting. By the way, which collage is this?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doomsday on March 04, 2009, 10:45:50 pm
I'm not a teen, far from it actually. I don't think I was really much of a teenager even when I was a teenager. But, if I put this anywhere else... people will complain... People are likely to call me emo, but they'd be wrong most likely. They don't know the meaning of the word. I have few emotions left. I know people don't particularly care, but it should be quiet obvious to some (maybe not anyone who posts in this thread particularly) that I've not been around much/at all lately. This should clarify things a little. Ignore the rambling.. ignore most of it... it's cut and pasted from a place where I go to write my thoughts and such.

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I don't function. I have periods of malfunction and disuse. I don't function as anything but a waste of space, energy, and matter. Or maybe I'm not. It is entirely possible that I don't exist at all. That none of this exists at all except in someone else's mind. It's a purely philosophical question/thought. Obviously physically, in the universe as we know it, we do exist but do we really? It's a worthless question, because the answer doesn't matter. Sometimes, it's not the answer or the outcome that is important, but what's in-between.

Something is not right. Something is broken. The world, humanity, and myself... or maybe it's just me that's broken. I have days/moments of lucidity. Clarity. Good days, where I'm able to function close to what people call "normal" (not that there is such a thing as normal). Then... there are the more common days that were less common for a while, but are back again. I can't focus... can't keep my thoughts on track. Don't even know my own thoughts. Days where the few things I'm able to feel, start digging at me, making my nerves raw. I only feel the negative. I don't know what happiness is... nor do I truly understand what's "fun". I have contentment and enjoyment, but I don't belief those to be happiness or fun. If they are, then they aren't all that they're hyped to be.

Some days, most days... I'm dull. Mentally, not personality-wise. I'm always dull personality-wise. I mean that I'm slow.. dim... not able to respond... stupid, if you prefer. I get trapped behind something... and it feels.. I can't quite explain it. I'm trapped in a cage... able to watch everything and think... but not act. As if there is a glass wall and my mind sees out, but can't interact. As if I'm some voyeur looking out through the eyes of someone else. My actions and responses are mine, but not me. I have days of total clarity and lucidity. I have days of dimness and fog. I'm probably broken more than I thought I was, and I've always known I was cracked.

I've been having difficulty hearing... or maybe it's not hearing but comprehending. I hear but don't hear... at times, I'm unable to put what was said togetherin a way that makes sense anymore.  But I don't hear too, sometimes. I've not been able to stay balanced, well in multiple ways but I mean physically now. I've always had pretty good balance... at least I never fall or trip. I'm not clumsy or anything... but lately... and especially on dim days.. I'm unable to function... to keep my balance sometimes. I still don't trip or fall, but I don't feel steady. Sometimes... I get vertigo/dizziness. it's better than the headaches. They don't come so often, or rather.. I don't feel them as much... I always feel the pressure and I probably always have a small headache going, but the migraines aren't so bad and don't come so often right now. Though, I wish I'd stop finding blood when I blow my nose, though that too comes and goes. Probably just the weather, though I never used to get bloody noses because of the weather... I never really got bloody noses before, and especially not due to my nose being dry or such. *shrugs* Still better than the headaches.

I have no energy. Things I want to do, things I should do, things I have to do. I don't do them. Short of forcing myself to work when I have it.. I've not been doing them. So many things I should do... and need to keep up with. I don't right now though. No energy. No drive. No reason. So time slips by... and I don't remember. My memories have been wacky lately too. Can't remember. Can remember. Don't remember. Do remember. Old things are like new, and are clear and crisp. New things are like old, faded and barely being able to recall them. So exhausted. No matter how much I do or don't sleep. So exhausted and sore. I don't want to do anything. I want to sleep and sleep and not wake up. Just to sleep... I don't dream often and I nearly never remember them, but I don't mind the emptiness. It's no different from being a wake really, except it's easier.

I've rambled. Extensively. I'm going to bed. I wish I could understand. That I had help.... why won't anyone help? Why doesn't anything help? What is wrong with me? It doesn't matter. It's probably just another philosophical question with no real answer. Ha. It's possible, it's not the answer that matters... I'm going to bed.

Ignore it. That's what's for the best. Never mind. Go about whatever it is this thread is normally for. Ignore that man behind the curtain.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Haseri on March 05, 2009, 12:40:35 am
Eh, we all have off days.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 05, 2009, 07:10:28 am
That reminds me of when I was in Elementary School and I wrote a full five minute song about how happiness is an illusion and asking is it really real?

Yah, my childhood was definitely not the best time of my life.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Legodragonxp on March 05, 2009, 07:26:21 am
Here is a little bit of busniess knowledge for you folks entering the job market. You know all those ads for computer training and computer careers you see on TV now? Those are being run by out-of-work computer trainers trying to drum up business for themselves. In most major cities the computer market is saturated. It is so bad right now that a good job at another company for me would be a 20-25% pay CUT.

For me Y2k was and emergency situation and I got in the back door.

-Lego

I'm hoping to get my foot in the door of am unexpected biotech explosion.

Employer: "This degree isn't very good, and its from a university that barely scratches the top 50 list"
Me: "Yes, but look, it says 'Microbiology' on it"
Employer: "WE'LL GIVE YOU AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU WANT"

Yup... here's hoping!  :P

Cellulosic ethanol - You might find a back door this way.

-Lego
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Null on March 05, 2009, 08:16:37 am
@ Doomsday - Humm, perhaps you should be Null instead of me. Anyways, judging from the content of some of your posts you are not a dim individual, because a dim individual would not be so introspective or analytical.

No. You are not dumb. Have you considered that some of the things that worry you could be nothing more than logical constructs that you use to explain away negative events?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on March 05, 2009, 09:02:29 am
Sometimes over thinking things will drive you crazy OP.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: MetallicDragon on March 05, 2009, 10:20:29 am
Doomsday, you sound like any normal person, except you are able to put your feelings into words while most people drum it off as a "bad day" or just being tired.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Veraal on March 05, 2009, 10:53:40 am
Yah, my childhood was definitely not the best time of my life.

What is your age?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Haseri on March 05, 2009, 12:03:22 pm
According to his profile, 111.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 05, 2009, 03:00:01 pm
Yah, my childhood was definitely not the best time of my life.

What is your age?


49 years after death.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Veraal on March 05, 2009, 03:11:30 pm
Just tell me.

I really want to know.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on March 05, 2009, 04:21:00 pm
He's probably 16 like everyone else around here.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 05, 2009, 04:22:49 pm
Hey! Seventeen! Check the age thread.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on March 05, 2009, 06:08:18 pm
I just checked the age thread, it seems that everyone is now 17.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on March 05, 2009, 06:13:10 pm
Ah to be 17 again.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Brandonazz on March 05, 2009, 06:53:35 pm
I just checked the age thread, it seems that everyone is now 17.

April 10th for me, and 11th for Mr C.

Then everyone will be 17.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Doctor Z on March 05, 2009, 06:57:06 pm
*pops head into* Whut?
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: MetallicDragon on March 05, 2009, 07:47:43 pm
But I'm 18!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: SBD on March 06, 2009, 01:05:46 am
I'm 19.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Yuu on March 06, 2009, 02:09:43 am
Sixteen until the twenty-seventh of June.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Cobra on March 06, 2009, 02:13:53 am
We already have an how old are you thread please keep this on topic.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on March 07, 2009, 04:14:23 pm
Psh, Pre-calc is cake. Come back when you can integrate (x + 3)/(x^2 + 4x -5) using partial fraction decomposition.

Now if you were asking me to differentiate, I could do it.

As it is, I have

Integral of((2/3(x-1)^(-1))+(1/3(x+5)^(-1)))

We've been taught the quotient rule, but I dunno if that works for integrating...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on March 10, 2009, 04:30:23 pm
No no, I solved it.

6ln(3x-3) + 3ln(3x+15)
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: MetallicDragon on March 10, 2009, 04:48:17 pm
I don't think that's correct, I differentiated it and got something else.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: /lurk on March 10, 2009, 05:43:51 pm
1/3 ln(x+5) + 2/3 ln(x-1) + C

Bona Fide has something like the right answer, but he needs to simplify it and add the constant of integration (you lose a mark if you forget it).




This is pie, babies. I did it in high school.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Veraal on March 10, 2009, 05:49:42 pm
I just checked the age thread, it seems that everyone is now 17.

April 10th for me, and 11th for Mr C.

Then everyone will be 17.

Whu-hat?

I always thought you were older.

Hm.

This is weird.
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: B.A.S. on March 11, 2009, 08:52:06 am
*Cough* Age Thread *Cough*

So three months until im free from this cold wasteland! Ive made alot of money though. My one problem though is when I updated my parents with where I would be staying they didnt seem to thrilled. They immiedietly bombarded me with all sorts of questions like "Are your friends Drinkers" (Of course..alot of people drink). "Do they do drugs" (A few do). All sorts of stuff, and they asked me what my friends do for work and all that stuff. I almost felt like saying, "Thanks for being caring but its my life, and my friends are my family".

I just dont know what to do. I almost have the feeling there going to try to keep me with them. I dont want to storm out in a fit of rage and simply move to BC I was hoping I could tell them about it and they would accept it. But they have this notion that myself and all the people I am close to in BC are unfit to begin there own lives and be independant. Which is very wrong.

Do you guys have any ideas on how I should try reapproaching this. Like I said I want to be able to come to an agreement with them or something!
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on March 11, 2009, 03:41:06 pm
Oh yeh.

+ C.

Always forget that...
Title: Re: Teen problem discussion thread
Post by: LadyM on March 11, 2009, 04:13:00 pm
*Cough* Age Thread *Cough*

So three months until im free from this cold wasteland! Ive made alot of money though. My one problem though is when I updated my parents with where I would be staying they didnt seem to thrilled. They immiedietly bombarded me with all sorts of questions like "Are your friends Drinkers" (Of course..alot of people drink). "Do they do drugs" (A few do). All sorts of stuff, and they asked me what my friends do for work and all that stuff. I almost felt like saying, "Thanks for being caring but its my life, and my friends are my family".

I just dont know what to do. I almost have the feeling there going to try to keep me with them. I dont want to storm out in a fit of rage and simply move to BC I was hoping I could tell them about it and they would accept it. But they have this notion that myself and all the people I am close to in BC are unfit to begin there own lives and be independant. Which is very wrong.

Do you guys have any ideas on how I should try reapproaching this. Like I said I want to be able to come to an agreement with them or something!
Parents are always going to be parents and they worry and care. If you really want to move and do things on your own, then you have to be insistent that they raised you well, reassure them that you'll be fine and tell them not to worry. Without getting mad at them, just tell them that just because your friends do those things, doesn't mean you do and if you do, then just don't tell your parents. Once they see that you do fine, they'll relax. The worst thing to do is storm out.
Title: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 25, 2009, 05:57:48 pm
Hi guys, don't know if you remember me, it's been a while!

I thought I'd pop in and share an annoyance of mine, in hopes of sympathy, or really just feeling better for having told the world, but not in such a way that the people involved will find out.

For those of you who don't remember me, or weren't here, some background information: I have Asperger Syndrome, a mild form of autism, the effects of which are a reduced ability to empathise, atypical speech patterns, taking things too literally, clumsyness, and having the government throw free money at you for no real reason. I'm not the only person on this forum with the syndrome, I believe one of the moderators also has it (I remember which one, but do not wish to be rude by 'outing' him). Of course, I imagine if that were my only problem, I would have gotten over it by now. However, the public school system has a way of ruining people's mental health. I was teased, bullied, beaten and ostracised for all five years of secondary school, ages 11-16. As a result, I'm a bit unstable; my mood changes a lot, and I was repressed to the point of thinking myself asexual until I came to college and things got a bit better.

A bit better. Now, at college, which I've just finished (well, I still have exams, but the lessons are over) I gained some social life. I have a group of friends now, infact I have a group of friends unconnected with my college as well. I'm kind of happy now, but there's one thing that just doesn't change. Back when I was in secondary school, my love life consisted of girls kissing me, talking to me, whatever, then using the attatchment to lead me into a situation where they could publicly humiliate me. Tell me there's no way they'd go out with me really, make everyone laught at me. I don't know if any of you have ever been in that situation, but it hurts. Still does. That was, I think, the reason I ended up repressed. I am no longer now, but people are still not interested. Not that I am surprised. I have kissed girls, in games of truth or dare. The exhange of saliva does make me a bit uncomfortable. So, anyway, I think that is enough background infromation for you to properly understand the situation that I have been confused and upset by.

There is this girl, let us call her C. She is in the year below me, and I have known her for a few months. She was 'going out' with my ex-friend, who we'll call M. M not only payed no attention to her, and never saw her outside of college, but was infact cheating on her with a fifteen-year-old girl. This ended a week or two ago. She has had two previous boyfriends, one of which she did non-PG rated things with. That was J, he taught her all she knows. Anyway. C has left M. I did not notice it at the time, but she cared far more about me than she did about M. She nagged me to stop smoking and not him, she instant messenged me to ask how I was, et cetera. Now, after she finally gave up on M, there was a gap of a few days. Then, there was a day, last wednesday, when she payed more attention than normal to me. Not that I noticed, but everyone else did.

So, the day after, last thursday, she came round my house. Not the first time this has happened, as I said, she was closer to me than to M. But last thursday was different. We didn't just talk. This is, I believe, a PG-13 forum. So, I shall only say that her saliva is not disgusting to me, for some reason, and that a bra is a lot easier to undo than I had thought. So, you may understand that I had, by this point, picked up the message that she likes me. I can read certain signals, they just have to be obvious. Now, at this point, I was in a state one of my friends calls "happy shock". I had, quite some time ago, resigned myself to the fate of dying alone, never having had a companion. This had, in a matter of hours, completely changed. Although this was a good thing, it left what was left of my emotional stability in tatters. C knew this. She seemed to understand, she knows me. She likes me, and it turns out, she loves me. She said so.

Now, so far, you'd be forgiven for thinking that this was a story with a happy ending. But no, the universe, or whatever may control it, insists on putting infuriating and confsing obstacles in my path. Me and C met again last saturday. I got more practice with her bra clasp. She said she couldn't continue this. "Oh," I thought, "she must not like me. My first relationship was a 3-day long rebound. Fantastic." But no, I asked her. She does like me. She does want to be with me. She's not just attracted to me, which would be unbearably shallow, but she considers me her best friend, and her "favorite person". So, then, why can we not be in a relationship? Because she just can't. Something which I cannot understand, but am prepared to accept. It makes things awkward. Thoughts clouded my mind, and not intellectual ones about the future of the relationship, but it was bearable. So then, she thought she could be with me, then realsied she couldn't?

No. She knew she couldn't maintain it. She knew it was going to be a one-shot thing. She knew, she didn't say. She knows me, she knows I don't understand humans, she knows I have emotional issues. So, why did she do this to me? She doesn't know. She knew it would hurt both of us. She did it anyway. It seems to be a common trait of humans, that they do things they know are bad ideas. They frequently have no explanation, no justification. And yet they act. Why? I wish I knew, I wish I could understand why humans act as they do, most of all I wish I could understand C.

I think I may just give up on you lot. I may have only met about 200 out of 6000000000 humans, but they've all been confusing and irrational so far, and I don't see them getting any better.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Raz on May 25, 2009, 05:59:23 pm
having the government throw free money at you for no real reason.

Before I read the whole thing, Whhattt??? Aspergers get free money?
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: PatMan33 on May 25, 2009, 06:03:11 pm
You gotta eat a lot of dirt before you find gold. You've got no reason to give up because you're not going through anything someone else hasn't gone through already and eventually succeeded with. Just keep on keeping on, it's all you can do.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Cow on May 25, 2009, 06:07:03 pm
Pretty much what Pat said. Just keep truckin', man. There's someone out there for everyone.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Raz on May 25, 2009, 06:12:42 pm
I still want to know if it's real that the government gives free money to people with Aspergers...

But, now having read it, I must say this, Humans are not confusing, they work like clockwork. Extremely simple clockwork, in most cases. Far too easy to manipulate.

But, yes, follow patman's advice, and I will add, that you should always keep your head up. Don't blitzkreig normal humans with highly advanced ideas. Consider a surface you, the one first encountered, and then a digging down as you know people, letting them see different sides, based on weither or not they'll be accepting. You don't go firing a gun near a herd of cows, the same metaphorical concept applies to humans.

Consider studying the basic human psyche/mind, Burrito. Read psychology, perhaps, or figure it out yourself. Some books on psychology that are there, are pretty full of bull though.

Also, sit and wait, patience with humans is key to understanding them. Their moods shift and their minds change at the drop of a hat, it's possible that her mind might also change, though I cannot give specifics, based on a lack of any real information.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 25, 2009, 06:18:24 pm
having the government throw free money at you for no real reason.

Before I read the whole thing, Whhattt??? Aspergers get free money?

There's a thing in britain known in Britain as Disability Living Allowance, or DLA. It's supposed to help those with disabilities buy equiptment they need, or pay for carers. In the case of aspergers... well, it's basically just free money.

Cow and Pat, thanks for the sentiment. I'm more annoyed at unpredictable humans than not getting laid, but it's nice of you to say that.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Raz on May 25, 2009, 06:20:10 pm
Grr... I want free money. Why can't the USA be more like Britain?
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 25, 2009, 06:31:53 pm
I still want to know if it's real that the government gives free money to people with Aspergers...

But, now having read it, I must say this, Humans are not confusing, they work like clockwork. Extremely simple clockwork, in most cases. Far too easy to manipulate.

But, yes, follow patman's advice, and I will add, that you should always keep your head up. Don't blitzkreig normal humans with highly advanced ideas. Consider a surface you, the one first encountered, and then a digging down as you know people, letting them see different sides, based on weither or not they'll be accepting. You don't go firing a gun near a herd of cows, the same metaphorical concept applies to humans.

Consider studying the basic human psyche/mind, Burrito. Read psychology, perhaps, or figure it out yourself. Some books on psychology that are there, are pretty full of bull though.

Also, sit and wait, patience with humans is key to understanding them. Their moods shift and their minds change at the drop of a hat, it's possible that her mind might also change, though I cannot give specifics, based on a lack of any real information.

No. No. Quantum, don't listen to Razonatair.
He's at that stage some smart kids get to where they think its cool to act all aloof and treat people they think are less intelligent than them like some sort of curious novelty to be patronised and condescended.


As for advice I'll just say count yourself lucky you got that far. Some people are too inept or unlikeable to get a girl for any period of time. So Kudos to you sir. Kudos.  :)
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: PatMan33 on May 25, 2009, 06:32:39 pm
I'm more annoyed at unpredictable humans than not getting laid

Oh, don't mistake. I could care less at whether or not you hit a home run. Let's just get down to it... you're different; in fact, most of the people here are different. That's probably why we're all so attracted to one another. You have a problem with "unpredictable humans"? Dude, get over yourself. The world is a crap shoot, strap yourself in and enjoy the ride because you don't get any other option. And know that I mean absolutely no disrespect toward you whatsoever; believe me, I know how difficult it can be sometimes. You've just got to roll with the punches. Nobody can tell with any certainty how something will unfold, and that's for certain. There's really not much else to say about it, what you see is what you get.

And hey, if you've got a problem with it you can get in line because you're not alone. It won't get you anywhere though and you may find that at the end of the journey you have a lot of regrets.

Also, one final thing (and this goes back to another topic), women are crazy but they can be reasoned with. Uhh... stay away from the Hispanic ones though. ;)
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Raz on May 25, 2009, 06:37:28 pm
What? I don't treat people any differently, even if they are dumber than me. Everyone is equal... Dumber people are funner to be around, in my opinion, anyway, just can't talk about complicated stuff with them. Maybe you need to re-think your thoughts, Krakow. I don't like how you're being condescending towards me, calling me a kid.

Quantum, my sayings come from an atleast somewhat shared perspective. I went through what you're going through over all these years, not too long ago. Just because I'm young doesn't mean I'm a teenaged fool.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Legodragonxp on May 25, 2009, 06:42:56 pm
Grr... I want free money. Why can't the USA be more like Britain?
Its called Social Security, and if you have worked in your life and paid your social security taxes you will build up to a point where, if you become disabled, physically or mentally, you can begin collecting Social Security. Some people scam the system, but part of the push for electronic medical records (and they don't want to admit this) is that they can find the scammers faster.

-Lego
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Raz on May 25, 2009, 06:47:12 pm
But Burrito receives money now, before he's old and actually disabled.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 25, 2009, 06:53:00 pm
I'm more annoyed at unpredictable humans than not getting laid

Oh, don't mistake. I could care less at whether or not you hit a home run. Let's just get down to it... you're different; in fact, most of the people here are different. That's probably why we're all so attracted to one another. You have a problem with "unpredictable humans"? Dude, get over yourself. The world is a crap shoot, strap yourself in and enjoy the ride because you don't get any other option. And know that I mean absolutely no disrespect toward you whatsoever; believe me, I know how difficult it can be sometimes. You've just got to roll with the punches. Nobody can tell with any certainty how something will unfold, and that's for certain. There's really not much else to say about it, what you see is what you get.

And hey, if you've got a problem with it you can get in line because you're not alone. It won't get you anywhere though and you may find that at the end of the journey you have a lot of regrets.

Also, one final thing (and this goes back to another topic), women are crazy but they can be reasoned with. Uhh... stay away from the Hispanic ones though. ;)

Yes, I really do need to get over myself, don't I? I guess it's the fact that I'm starting this now, at 18, instead of buildig up to it from the age of about 12, like most people do, that's caught me. And really, also, the sense of betrayal of having this done to me by a close friend. I mean, this might just be me being sappy, but it hurts even more that it was my first ever relationship that got ruined because of this. Plus it almost ruined that friendship.

Thanks for showing an interest, you are right, I'm sure. Well, I could nitpick a couple of points, but that would just be mean ;D

But Burrito receives money now, before he's old and actually disabled.

Well, actually, I don't, yet. I just found out about it through my friend, Cokehead Ryan. He has aspergers, gets £300/month for it. And yes, it gets spent on what you'd expect.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Raz on May 25, 2009, 06:56:13 pm
That's like, 450 dollars? Per month? God. It'd be like a second minimum wage job, but totally for free.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 25, 2009, 07:04:10 pm
The topic of this thread isn't the rather odd welfare system of Great Britain, its about women being hard to understand.  :P

Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Legodragonxp on May 25, 2009, 07:14:41 pm
The topic of this thread isn't the rather odd welfare system of Great Britain, its about women being hard to understand.  :P


Maybe so, but I'm pretty sure that the British economy is easier to understand than any woman.

On a serious note about looking for a femail companion, just keep looking, you will eventually find a match (I have a video game playing wife that is smart, sexy, intelligent (looks over shoudler...what else am I supposed to type here dear?), and lets me still be me!

-Lego
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: MetallicDragon on May 25, 2009, 07:27:45 pm
At 18, I have yet to be involved with anyone romantically. Hmm...
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: smurfslayer on May 25, 2009, 07:35:18 pm
My advice to you, and keep in mind that this is coming from someone in not all that dissimilar of a situation, is just keep trying. It's the hardest thing in the world sometimes, but just do your best to keep up hope. Remember that the struggle is what makes you strong. Some people get everything handed to them. You don't and as painful as that may be, you are better for it.

If you really want to be with this girl then don't give up. She might not be ready to be in another relationship now and there is nothing you can do about that. Just be her friend and be there for her and she'll either come around or she wont.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Doctor Z on May 25, 2009, 08:12:57 pm
The topic of this thread isn't the rather odd welfare system of Great Britain, its about women being hard to understand.  :P


Maybe so, but I'm pretty sure that the British economy is easier to understand than any woman.

On a serious note about looking for a femail companion, just keep looking, you will eventually find a match (I have a video game playing wife that is smart, sexy, intelligent (looks over shoudler...what else am I supposed to type here dear?), and lets me still be me!

-Lego

I love you man.

On a somewhat serious note: Try men?

On a totally SRS note: Yer ****ing lucky she said such a thing within the week, rather then waiting months or even years.

Try and use these people for practice getting used to humanity, for when you get the real deal.

That's all I gots.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Uroboros on May 25, 2009, 08:49:28 pm
In the end, you've got two ways you can look at it. Positively and negatively.
Maybe you got used as a comfy rebound, and it stings a bit because it reminds you of the obnoxious things you've suffered before, but you were the first choice of rebound, right? Relationships, no matter how long or short, always have their unanswered ifs and buts, the wondering whys, the self conscious grimaces when you think back, and often a few stages of sadness, anger, longing, and oh god why do even simple relationships get complex? In the end, for better or worse, you had an experience. Life is full of them, and not all of them can so easily be tagged into the good or the bad pile. Some things make you smile, but simultaneously make you feel uneasy. I guess this'll be one of those things.

To be honest? I don't really see how your Aspergers fits into this. This is something that the most world-wise people can spend years pondering over and never really finding the answer they're looking for. Even if you had more general aptitude for socialising, it wouldn't make he relationship side of things much clearer. We're all doomed to be baffled by this kind of thing, by and large.

As for the bull**** you faced in school? Yeah, that stuff can stick with you, but you're already doing the best thing you can do : Keep yourself open.
Looking for "the one"? Aren't we all? Heh.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Doomsday on May 25, 2009, 08:52:57 pm
I could insult DocZ and attempt to explain to him that that's not exactly how bi/homosexuality work... but it's not the place and it's a wasted effort.

All I can say really is good luck. I'm 24, and the more you understand people, the less you understand. The more you try to understand, the stranger they get. Like with everything, there are patterns with people. People themselves are fairly easy to peg, but understanding them? People are irrational, especially when it comes to emotions or impulses.

I suppose I'm not really one to talk. For most of my life (even now), I've had the opposite problem. I used to empathize with people to easily. Get attached to people, and become invested in their problems. I pick up the traits of others and I used to be able to pick up on others' emotions and stuff fairly quickly (and it was sometimes overwhelming). So, it's not like I don't understand emotions to some extent... I've always been rational... when I first started getting picked on in the first grade it was by two transfer students (they were twins), I knew even back then that it was more to make themselves feel better and fit in. I was a kid so of course it hurt, of course it bothered me, but I understood on some level that it wasn't completely personal. I understand too much, but not enough. I'm not ignorant/stupid enough to be happy and I'm not smart/strong enough to not let it get to me. I take things personally, still do (to a limited extent). So, I don't talk to people about nearly anything... I continue conversations in my head... if I talk about anything someone else brings it up first (though sometimes I put into a conversation if it's something I'm adamant about), so I avoid people. My view is largely pessimistic though... Ahh bugger. I've rambled off about myself, again, like the retard I am.

The point was that even if you understand, even if you know the whys or hows, even if you peg people perfectly you still wind up not knowing very much in the end. People don't usually like to be around people like that for very long, so it's better to just to not try and understand everyone you meet, even just some. Keep moving forward is about all one can do. To keep on keeping on. Don't try to understand people, just accept them for all their faults.. all their insanity... just let the dice fall were they may. That isn't to say give up on people or meeting new people, just don't try and understand them. I imagine that's something that's difficult for you to do, but it's better than the alternatives... well, at least one alternative. It's better than ending up like me at least.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Inkling on May 25, 2009, 09:00:18 pm
I have said it before and no doubt I'll say it again, but Gamingsteve probably isn't the best place for relationship advice.  But hey, we're here to listen and to throw out what advice we have.

My two cents would be to still try and be her friend.  I make no claims to knowing what is going on inside your friend's head.  She might not know either, if she was torn up emotionally from breaking up with her boyfriend.  But don't let it ruin a good friendship.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 26, 2009, 05:51:40 am
"Oh," I thought, "she must not like me. My first relationship was a 3-day long rebound. Fantastic."

I think you hit the nail on the head here mate, she was on the rebound, excessively emotional and such. She wouldn't have been thinking about any consequences of actions, just immediate benefits. And then after a while she got thinking and decided she didn't want it.

So yeh, after that, just give yourself the usual pep-talk "plenty more fish in the sea" "somebody for everyone" yada yada yada.

One thing I'[m thinking of though, aren't you feeling just a little guilty for taking M's girl so soon after they finished? I noticed you said ex-friend, so is that anything to do with this incident?
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 26, 2009, 06:40:36 am
One thing I'[m thinking of though, aren't you feeling just a little guilty for taking M's girl so soon after they finished? I noticed you said ex-friend, so is that anything to do with this incident?

Well, firstly he's done it to other people and said there's nothing wrong with it. Secondly, yes, I've stopped being friends with him because of what he did to C. No contact outside of college, payed virtually no attention to her, then he cheats on her.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 26, 2009, 06:54:29 am
Some of this may seem harsh but i don't mean it to be please do not be offended.

Before i even finished reading your post i knew that the girl was..um...a whore. Obviously that's all perspective based on the way each person views it. Generally a girl like that is okay to be friends with and obviously good for something else as you found out. But attempting any kind of serious relationship with a girl like that will just result in you getting burned as you did.

This may sound cliche...but the best thing you can do is forget about her and find someone else. You are in collage there should be a thousand women around you.  I don't have your exact problem but i did suffer some issues when i was younger that made me completely unsuccessful with women. But now is different becuase i made it so and you can do the same. You don't have to abandon this girls friendship, But i would leave it at just that.

Have confidence in yourself and don't be afraid of rejection. If you see a girl you like talk to her, If she rejects you blow it off and find another.

Humans are confusing, Especially the female variety, Trying to understand how each of them work will just drive you insane. All you can do is go with flow QB.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Yannick on May 26, 2009, 07:47:02 am
Life:

Get in. Have fun. Get out.

Love:
Get in, have fun, get out soon enough.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Huckbuck on May 26, 2009, 08:15:25 am
That's like, 450 dollars? Per month? God. It'd be like a second minimum wage job, but totally for free.

Start paying taxes for real and you will have things like that. In Sweden every child gets like 120$ from the government every month up untill they are like 18. After that you get a higher sum if you are still studying.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Inkling on May 26, 2009, 08:43:43 am
The topic of this thread isn't the rather odd welfare system of Great Britain, its about women being hard to understand.  :P


Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 26, 2009, 10:40:03 am
Some of this may seem harsh but i don't mean it to be please do not be offended.

Before i even finished reading your post i knew that the girl was..um...a whore.

Fair point. this is the girl who tried to bribe me to loose weight with what the victorians called a 'below job'.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 26, 2009, 10:44:52 am
Are we talking about the same Victorians here?


Yeah, I'll say the same as everyone else and go with the more fish in the sea anology.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 26, 2009, 11:05:38 am
Could this topic technically go in the teen problems discussion thread?
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Detoxicated on May 26, 2009, 05:07:29 pm
Some humans are simple, some are complex...
i would never ever try to put any living human being in a caste. She may suck on your below, and she may do crazy things and act irresponsible, but after all you're friends with her. You don't seem like an ***hole, and you don't seem stupid either, so why would she hang out with you if she was a whore? She obiously has a more complex problem than that, and even though youre not the cause for her mental troubles you will have to live with it. You can always be a good friend for her, and ask her to tell you whats really wrong with her... you might learn a thing or two, as well as you might help her getting her to talk about it. Dont drop her, stay friends with her and be as nice as ever.

You had bad luck in the past to find sh*t examples of women to treat you like that simply because youre different from the horrendous masses, but i tell you not too many are such evil ones. Human beings make alot of bad decisions but usually mean no evil. The modern society made them into what they are now. if you want me to emphasize pm me.
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: /lurk on May 26, 2009, 05:37:19 pm
Could this topic technically go in the teen problems discussion thread?

Yes.

Can we get a mod to merge them so that I don't have to look at the "Oh look at me I'm so edgy talking about humans in third person" thread title anymore?
Title: Re: Humans. Are. Confusing.
Post by: Grazony on May 26, 2009, 05:57:15 pm
Quantum Burrito, after reading your post I wanted to go to a school and kick some underage ass.

Anyway just do what the people with good advice tell you to do. Also, someone alert the mods to merge this topic. I would, but I'm lazy.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doomsday on May 26, 2009, 06:01:44 pm
Merged and renamed, not everyone who posts a problem here is a teen, so I changed the title.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 27, 2009, 06:18:10 pm
Sorry for not posting in here originally, I didn't know the thread existed. Also, I've found out at least part of the reason she was acting a bit wierd. I have aspergers, one of the things we're known for is disliking physical contact; when I went to college, I resolved to get over that. And I did. A little too well. I'm quite a tactile person now, and I touch my friends a little more than usual. Most of my friends like the attention, we get on well. One thing about C is that she doesn't, normally. She's kinda gotten used to it from me, now, but she seemed to stil be quite ticklish. I thought that was a bit odd, what with her being 17, slightly above the age where you get over that. But up until today, that's what she'd maintained.

She came clean, turns out that the shuddering when I stroke her is not tickilishness. I've been accidentally putting her in the mood more or less every time we've met. Oh well, live and learn.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on May 27, 2009, 06:25:47 pm
Wait, you turned her on by you stroking her shoulder? Man, the girl must be really horny or something.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Raz on May 27, 2009, 06:35:11 pm
I think he does more than touch shoulders, Ryan.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 27, 2009, 06:35:28 pm
Wait, you turned her on by you stroking her shoulder? Man, the girl must be really horny or something.

Cough Cough.

Some of this may seem harsh but i don't mean it to be please do not be offended.

Before i even finished reading your post i knew that the girl was..um...a whore.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on May 27, 2009, 07:04:20 pm
Because any woman who gets intimate impulses is a 'whore' AMIRITE?
Lay off, man.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doomsday on May 27, 2009, 07:40:28 pm
Andrew, Gorman may I suggest that you grow up? Uroboros made a point and I'm going to expand on it.

People experience sensations differently, and touch can be particularly tricky. If touched in certain spots and certain ways, it is not unusual for sensual feelings to arise. Each person is different though, so how susceptible one is towards certain sensations, and how one responds to it are varied. Generalizing and stereotyping someone you don't know as a whore simply because of how their body physically reacts to natural stimuli is unfair, whether it is true or not of her overall personality and actions (and I'm don't have an opinion one way or the other about that). People's sensitivity towards stimuli vary, and your unfairly characterizing someone you don't know based on one person's story and one person's side.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on May 27, 2009, 07:48:47 pm
Hey, I didn't say she was a whore I just said she must be horny. In my experience, most women aren't that sensitive to get turned on just by mere normal touching. The conclusion, she must either be sensitive or horny and, once again, in my experience, it's mostly horny.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doomsday on May 27, 2009, 07:52:29 pm
*shrugs* Why can't it be both? I don't see why, especially at 17 when hormones are still swirling around, it's a big deal if a healthy women gets aroused.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on May 27, 2009, 09:00:10 pm
Wait, she's 17?  Isn't that young for college, or does college mean something else in the UK?

Also, if a girl I liked gave me a shoulder massage, I'd be a pretty happy guy.  But yeah, I guess Quantum Burrito has the Magic Touch.  We can only hope that he does not use his powers for evil.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doomsday on May 27, 2009, 09:06:46 pm
On a completely different note, my patience is about up. I don't know if anyone else has to deal with a relative that has Alzheimer's but it is extremely trying.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 28, 2009, 07:00:14 am
Because any woman who gets intimate impulses is a 'whore' AMIRITE?
Lay off, man.

No it was everything else that made her that way. I just pointed it out a second time when Andrew seemed baffled that she got turned on by her shoulder being touched. I said earlier it was all perspective anyway.

If you don't believe promiscuous women to whores then that's okay.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on May 28, 2009, 07:14:55 am
On a completely different note, my patience is about up. I don't know if anyone else has to deal with a relative that has Alzheimer's but it is extremely trying.

Don't give up man. At least you don't have to deal with an insane depressic every couple of hours.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on May 28, 2009, 09:55:24 am
If you don't believe promiscuous women to whores then that's okay.
Yes there are promiscuous women, but being on the rebound doesnt make you a whore. It was far from the first time she got a rub from him. It was one of those "one thing led to another" moments. Guys get those too, y'know. It helps if you remember guys are far more susceptable to getting turned on by those little things, so it really just looks like it boils down to a "If a women has a moment, she's a whore, if a guy has one, he's just a normal guy". You jumped the gun, big-style, and it made you look like a major "women should be chaste" prude. :P
(bare in mind, I said 'look')

Just came off in bad taste, IMO.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 28, 2009, 10:47:33 am
I don't know if it's entirely just "one thing leads to another", as now every time we meet, worse ansd worse things happen. I'm really not sure I like were it's going, given that she left in a hurry yesterday, and was crying when she got home  :-\

I have no clue what I did, and I don't want to be a bad person.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on May 28, 2009, 11:35:59 am
Urgh, the BAD kind of rebound.
It sounds like she's still pretty badly cut up about it all, and she doesn't know whether she's coming or going.
You're going to have to be the one to stop it from happening. Hopefully you can talk to her about it, ask her to be totally honest about it, and mention  her crying and such. You pretty much know this isn't going to turn into a relationship, and the terms you keep meeting on are really bad mojo. She's a mess right now, and it appears she's trying to use intimacy as a way to deal with the heartbreak. Some rebounds aren't as simple as just being with someone, then realising it was just a rebound. Sometimes they can be complex...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on May 28, 2009, 01:15:10 pm
On a completely different note, my patience is about up. I don't know if anyone else has to deal with a relative that has Alzheimer's but it is extremely trying.

My grandfather has it. He usually cuss us all out, pees his pants, takes a nap for an hour, wakes up screaming about people trying to invade the house, grabs what he believes is a rifle(a cane), and then stays up for the rest of the day looking for his shoes. Damnit Alzheimer sucks.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 28, 2009, 04:14:06 pm
Wait, she's 17?  Isn't that young for college, or does college mean something else in the UK?

Also, if a girl I liked gave me a shoulder massage, I'd be a pretty happy guy.  But yeah, I guess Quantum Burrito has the Magic Touch.  We can only hope that he does not use his powers for evil.

College is ages 16-18. High school you do GCSE's until 16, and then college you do your A-Levels. What you call "college" we call university.

If you don't believe promiscuous women to whores then that's okay.
Yes there are promiscuous women, but being on the rebound doesnt make you a whore.

No, but giving in when you're on the rebound may.

We all get urges, it is not following them through that shows restraint.

On a completely different note, my patience is about up. I don't know if anyone else has to deal with a relative that has Alzheimer's but it is extremely trying.

My grandfather has it. He usually cuss us all out, pees his pants, takes a nap for an hour, wakes up screaming about people trying to invade the house, grabs what he believes is a rifle(a cane), and then stays up for the rest of the day looking for his shoes. Damnit Alzheimer sucks.

It really does. I volunteer at an old people's home, most of whom have dementia. It's really sad, just imagining that these people used to be in their prime...

There's a group of 3 ladies who have the same discussion word for word - wondering who on earth I am - every time I'm there.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 28, 2009, 04:23:18 pm
If you don't believe promiscuous women to whores then that's okay.
Yes there are promiscuous women, but being on the rebound doesnt make you a whore.

No, but giving in when you're on the rebound may.

We all get urges, it is not following them through that shows restraint.

I have a question - what exactly is inherently wrong with a woman approaching a man with sexual intent? I know Gorman's pushing his repressive fundamentalist morality again, but what I see here is you lot calling a girl a whore for being interested in a man and making a move. So, is this hypocrisy, misogyny, or simply not thinking about what you're saying?

And to add to rational discussion about the shoulders thing - lots of people have idiosyncrasies like that. It's not completely unusual, especially for women, to be aroused by touching areas that aren't normally considered erogenous zones.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 28, 2009, 04:31:01 pm
If you don't believe promiscuous women to whores then that's okay.
Yes there are promiscuous women, but being on the rebound doesnt make you a whore.

No, but giving in when you're on the rebound may.

We all get urges, it is not following them through that shows restraint.

I have a question - what exactly is inherently wrong with a woman approaching a man with sexual intent? I know Gorman's pushing his repressive fundamentalist morality again, but what I see here is you lot calling a girl a whore for being interested in a man and making a move. So, is this hypocrisy, misogyny, or simply not thinking about what you're saying?

And to add to rational discussion about the shoulders thing - lots of people have idiosyncrasies like that. It's not completely unusual, especially for women, to be aroused by touching areas that aren't normally considered erogenous zones.

I said she could possibly be a whore. Not that I don't like whores.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 28, 2009, 06:06:22 pm
If you don't believe promiscuous women to whores then that's okay.
Yes there are promiscuous women, but being on the rebound doesnt make you a whore.

No, but giving in when you're on the rebound may.

We all get urges, it is not following them through that shows restraint.

I have a question - what exactly is inherently wrong with a woman approaching a man with sexual intent? I know Gorman's pushing his repressive fundamentalist morality again, but what I see here is you lot calling a girl a whore for being interested in a man and making a move. So, is this hypocrisy, misogyny, or simply not thinking about what you're saying?

And to add to rational discussion about the shoulders thing - lots of people have idiosyncrasies like that. It's not completely unusual, especially for women, to be aroused by touching areas that aren't normally considered erogenous zones.

Was wondering when you was going to show up...

Here i will say it a third time its all perspective. Also in my eyes anything that i would classify a girl a whore for doing i would do the same to a guy. If a guy approaches a girl with sexual intent he is a sleezebag and a whore at least in my eyes.

Also don't bring up my so called *fundamentalist morality* at everything i say.

I may be Christian but i am far far from a model one. I don't do everything my religion says i should. I live with my unmarried girlfriend and have sex. I cuss like a sailor and i solve aggressive actions with fists instead of words.

My religion does not run my opinions or even my actions. My mindset is because i am who i am not because a church or book told me so. That does not mean i don't believe in god nor does it mean i wont defend my religion. what it means is you need to stop associating everything i say as if it was coming from a pastors mouth.

Anyway if me and me girlfriend broke up and she went and had sex multiple times with a friend of hers with the excuse that shes upset. Any chance of getting back together would be gone becuase in my eyes that's complete BS.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 28, 2009, 06:14:53 pm
Your personal failings aside, it's amazing how you can characterise normal and natural human behaviour as whorishness. It might well be your opinion, but that doesn't mean it isn't disturbingly ignorant and regressive.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 28, 2009, 06:20:46 pm
Your personal failings aside, it's amazing how you can characterise normal and natural human behaviour as whorishness. It might well be your opinion, but that doesn't mean it isn't disturbingly ignorant and regressive.

Even if it is normal human behavior (and i may not believe that it is.) Humans have a lot of urges and wants that we obviously restrain from doing. That's what makes us human and not animals.

Animals kill each other over senseless things, If i did that would i be a murderer or would i be exhibiting normal and natural behaviors?

Animals sometimes eat their young if they are sick. If i did that would the be normal and natural?.

Its having the restraint on those primal urges that makes us what we are. Why is it okay to act on one but not the others?. Well i will tell you why, Because that's how you view it to be. You view it to be ok.

I don't. The difference is you call my opinion disturbingly ignorant and regressive.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: B.A.S. on May 28, 2009, 06:23:12 pm
Stealing another Human beings life is one thing. Having sex with another Human being is generally very pleasing and good for ones self and the other.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 28, 2009, 06:26:10 pm
Most animals by nature are polygamous. Durgon would you be okay with your girlfriend sleeping with other men?.

If not then why?.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: B.A.S. on May 28, 2009, 06:27:28 pm
If we broke up I would be totally fine with it. Its not like shes my property or anything, if she feels better about herself doing it than I wouldnt stop her and I would expect the same kind of respect from her.

As for my reason. Im not sure, to me Sex is Sex. Its special and all but I wouldnt get jealous or frustrated to an extreme amount. When im 30 and married chances are my Wife isnt the only one that I have had sex with throughout my life, so why make a big deal out of someone im not involved with having sex with someone else.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 28, 2009, 06:30:24 pm
If we broke up I would be totally fine with it. Its not like shes my property or anything, if she feels better about herself doing it than I wouldnt stop her and I would expect the same from her.

Thats not what i asked.

If your still together and she slept with other men would you care?. Our nature is to be polygamous, If you go by our natural behaviors you have no reason to care if she sleeps with other men while shes with you.

Its only sex after all and its only natural. Its her instinct.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: B.A.S. on May 28, 2009, 06:33:53 pm
I'd be a Hypocrite if I said I would care. It would get to me a bit yeh. I'd talk to her about it, but I wouldnt flip out about it. Sex to me isnt anything personal.

Im still not really sure what your WHOLE point is about this though.I joined this conversation under the impression that some were saying Sex is relatively bad. Mind filling me in?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 28, 2009, 06:38:08 pm
Unfortunately for you, you fail at both constructing strawmen and understanding ethical theory outside of a dictatorial and oppressive religious conservative mindset.

You are characterising the sexual urge as being destructive by comparing it to filiaphagia and murder, but I challenge you to actually demonstrate that it is - I don't believe you can, because most reasonable person wouldn't recognise consenting sexual activity between adults as destructive; certainly not in the region of your hyperbolic strawmen. My ethical system suggests that actions that harm are morally objectionable, and that actions that do not are not - if you want to suggest some other system that proves your statement without resorting to "God said so" you are most welcome, but I think you will be unsuccessful.

Oppression of women and other forms of societal domination through restrictions on sexual activity have been running themes in the history of humanity. It is a deeply conservative and backwards mindset that suggests that sex is a "bad" thing, and that all sex outside a totally committed monogamous long-term relationship is unnatural or wrong, especially since those positions have never been substantiated without resort to divine law or some other intractable origin. Your own self-loathing only serves to prove the point.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: B.A.S. on May 28, 2009, 06:39:19 pm
^^^What Dax said...without the negativity.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 28, 2009, 06:56:04 pm
I'd be a Hypocrite if I said I would care. It would get to me a bit yeh. I'd talk to her about it, but I wouldnt flip out about it. Sex to me isnt anything personal.

If she continued would you stay with her?. Basically would you stay in relationship with a girl that had sex with different men at her own leisure.

I said three times now its perspective. If you would be okay with that then that's you. I know of one other forum member that would be okay with it too. But i highly doubt many others could say the same.

My point is you cant use natural behavior as an excuse. Theirs plenty of natural feelings and urges that humans don't exercise. If they did others would think what they did was wrong. And in many cases they would be arrested.



You are characterising the sexual urge as being destructive by comparing it to filiaphagia and murder, but I challenge you to actually demonstrate that it is - I don't believe you can, because most reasonable person wouldn't recognise consenting sexual activity between adults as destructive; certainly not in the region of your hyperbolic strawmen. My ethical system suggests that actions that harm are morally objectionable, and that actions that do not are not - if you want to suggest some other system that proves your statement without resorting to "God said so" you are most welcome, but I think you will be unsuccessful.

Aside from possibly pregnancy and STDs it can be destructive in other forms as well.

In the United States its not uncommon for a man to divorce his wife because he is unable to deal with her past.

If you were to have slept with my girlfriend before i met her it would have hurt me today, I'm not the only one who feels and thinks this way. Religion has nothing to do with it.

Perhaps i would have been unable to deal with it and we would not be together today. That's possible destruction for what reason?.

So you both could have an hour of pleasure?.

You can rant and rave about sex being meaningless all you want, But if your not okay with your SO nailing other men then it has to have some meaning to you somehow. The reason is not relevant.

If its meaningful enough that you wouldn't be okay that Then why is it not meaningful enough not to have one night stands and excise frequent sexual activity's with people that have no real meaning.

Your assumption about my morals being god driven is laughable.

People have different minds. Not everyone is hurt or bothered by the same thing. You are an athiest, Do you not break the law because you fear the punishment?. Or do you not break the law because it conflicts with your morals? Regardless of how you got them.

Even in the extreme of murder. Why should it be wrong?. Its natural in animals but i am sure its not just the law stopping you Daxx?. Is there some moral? Something in you that for whatever reason tells you its wrong?. Maybe you would feel bad for taking anothers life or the pain their loved ones would feel. But why?. Your morals obviously aren't god driven. But mine automatically are becuase i am Christian?.

If you think about it. Nothing matters, Nothing but your own survival. But we as humans gave things meanings. And things mean different things to different people regardless of whether they believe in god or not.

Obviously sex means something to a lot of people. If you would be upset that your SO is doing the hanky panky with the neighbor then sex has meaning to. It just has even more meaning to me.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 28, 2009, 07:05:35 pm
Predictable argument, but you would have noticed if you had actually read my post that I already precluded it. The comparison between the two is unsustainable at the best and deliberately disingenuous at the worst. Please address my point rather than ignoring it.

On a different tangent, let's entertain one question you asked (though it's irrelevant and in fact only serves to prove that you didn't read my post) because it's interesting.

Why not murder? Some deep "feeling" telling me it's wrong? A conscience? No. Neither God-given morals nor arbitrary line-drawing prevents me from going out and murdering people for whom I have no use. Rather, social contract theory and game theory, mixed together in an interesting re-enforcing cocktail of survivalism, are my "guide". I do not murder because I fear punishment and repercussions. I do not murder because social survival strategies often rely on co-operation and mutual trust. It's also possible that I do not murder because I am psychologically disinclined due to millions of years of natural selection pre-programming my brain. I do not believe in arbitrary ethical judgement calls, because whilst rules of thumb are useful, they are not necessarily consistent.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: SerenityGrace on May 28, 2009, 07:17:22 pm
I actually agree with gorman. If my man slept with another woman it would upset me. Most women agree with me, matter of fact my bf just had a huge fight with her husband because he was secretly talking to his ex. Only talking. If sex wasn't a big deal then why do so many people divorce over infidelity,
why would there be entire shows based on catching cheaters. Because deep down it hurts when the person you care about has sex with some one else. If you believe in god or not it still hurts.


So let me get this strait dax if it wasn't illegal would you kill some one in your way of success?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Josasa on May 28, 2009, 07:18:36 pm
But Daxx, the general definition of a whore is someone who sleeps around a lot. That person, by definition, is correctly being termed a whore. It all depends on whether or not you have a negative connotation associated with the word.

You have made several assumptions at this point, some of which may have been right, others which have been wrong. You are more of a troll than anything by pulling Gorman's religion into it, something that he didn't mention beforehand.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 28, 2009, 07:20:29 pm
But Daxx, the general definition of a whore is someone who sleeps around a lot. That person, by definition, is correctly being termed a whore. It all depends on whether or not you have a negative connotation associated with the word.

Actually, you might want to run "define: whore" in Google, Jo.

Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Josasa on May 28, 2009, 07:22:02 pm
"Sleeps with them for money," I know, but the general use of it today, and in this current discussion is not of that nature.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 28, 2009, 07:24:54 pm
"Sleeps with them for money," I know, but the general use of it today, and in this current discussion is not of that nature.

Uh, that's not how I interpreted it at all. Regional differences in language use, maybe? I'm fairly certain that the most prominent use of the word "whore" in a religious/ethical context is the prostitute definition.

EDIT:
pulling Gorman's religion into it

Of course. His religious beliefs are pervasive in his morality, as we have seen in every single discussion he's been involved in which deals with philosophy and ethics. If you don't frame his posts in terms of his religious belief, you're missing context. I wouldn't expect people to deal with my posts without taking into account my professed opinions.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Luminar on May 28, 2009, 07:27:24 pm
If it was specifically prostitution that was being talked about, "hooker" would more likely be the term thrown about. "Whore" these days is more generalistic towards women who are viewed to violate some most often arbitrary standard of monogamy.
The sooner we kick all differences aside the biological to the kerb, the better.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Josasa on May 28, 2009, 07:28:20 pm
Good point, I shouldn't have assumed that this use would be prevalent everywhere. My mistake.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 28, 2009, 07:29:33 pm
Even in the extreme of murder. Why should it be wrong?. Its natural in animals but i am sure its not just the law stopping you Daxx?. Is there some moral? Something in you that for whatever reason tells you its wrong?. Maybe you would feel bad for taking anothers life or the pain their loved ones would feel. But why?. Your morals obviously aren't god driven. But mine automatically are becuase i am Christian?.
Well, this part? Animals kill animals of OTHER species.

And to be frank, so do we.

It's all serving the propagation of the species. The species wouldn't be very good if we just kept killing each other, eh?


Edit: Shoulda read Daxxs response, he basically covered this!

D:

Edit: About the word stuff, Whore and Slut have basically melded in most peoples vocabularies. Or so I've seen.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on May 28, 2009, 07:30:30 pm
Can we please stop talking about whores and go back to discussing problems. This is turning into an argument and not going in a good direction.

QB had a problem and was looking for some help, maybe we can focus back on that. Thanks.

Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 28, 2009, 07:33:20 pm
Good point, I shouldn't have assumed that this use would be prevalent everywhere. My mistake.

Well, maybe I just got it wrong, it seems like the US use is more towards your interpretation. Nevertheless, he's still throwing a needlessly negative light on natural sexual activity, which I believe is backwards and smacks of historical oppression.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Josasa on May 28, 2009, 07:37:33 pm
Good point, I shouldn't have assumed that this use would be prevalent everywhere. My mistake.

Well, maybe I just got it wrong, it seems like the US use is more towards your interpretation. Nevertheless, he's still throwing a needlessly negative light on natural sexual activity, which I believe is backwards and smacks of historical oppression.

True. I actually agree with you on this point. Sexuality is something that should be embraced rather than constrained. The only thing I was truly disagreeing with was dragging Gorman's religion into it when there was no precedent for it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 28, 2009, 07:46:55 pm

Of course. His religious beliefs are pervasive in his morality, as we have seen in every single discussion he's been involved in which deals with philosophy and ethics. If you don't frame his posts in terms of his religious belief, you're missing context. I wouldn't expect people to deal with my posts without taking into account my professed opinions.

You have not seen my religious beliefs persuasive in ANY discussion i have been in outside of religion discussions. You just assume it that way. I guess i should assume your atheism dictates all of your opinions outside of belief in god eh?.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 28, 2009, 08:06:25 pm
Let's go through the list.


All trawled up from your posts, mostly in the Religion thread. I could go on, but it's 4am here and I'm going to go to bed now.

Oh, and the word is "pervasive".
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 28, 2009, 08:22:20 pm

Not because i am religious.


Not because i am religious.


Not because i am religious.


Partially because of my religion yes.


Depends what you are talking about.


You made that up. I have nothing against contraceptives at all. In fact i am all for them.


You also made that up. Amusing because i used to be goth.



3 of those were assumption. 1 of them was obvious. And 2 of them were flat out wrong.

Try again.

Oh, and the word is "pervasive".

Have a cookie.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 28, 2009, 08:48:07 pm
But in every instance you have used the "appeal to God" in your reasoning whenever you have been challenged on it. Of course, after the first couple of times you were called on it you just refused to explain. ::)

Therefore, I think it's reasonable to characterise your morality as being heavily influenced by your religion (possibly as an equivalent alternative the highly religious culture you profess to have been raised in). Taking your religion into account as context for your philosophical and ethical views is therefore completely justified.

As for those last two - the goth one is taken from this post (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=355.msg542016#msg542016). The contraceptive issue was taken from someone quoting you, but I cannot now find the original post. It's possible you may have been misquoted. I'm more than happy to retract it if you like, since my point (and my earlier post, which still has not been addressed) still stands without it.

But less about your religion (which in itself, as I've noted, only provides context - your focus upon it is only a red herring designed to distract from the original point): are you still maintaining the strawman that murder and sexual dishonesty are moral equivalents when taken from a naturalistic perspective, or have you abandoned it?

EDIT: 5am now. Really bed this time.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on May 28, 2009, 09:18:56 pm
Oh hey, my massive summary is right under that post.

Good times, good times.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on May 29, 2009, 09:49:00 am
Ok, just so Daxx and Gorman are aware, I am very uncomfortable with you two in these kind of discussions.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: /lurk on May 29, 2009, 09:58:31 am
But it's funny! It's like watching a matador.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 29, 2009, 01:06:54 pm
Okay, now, she has demonstrated to me, yet again, why I find humans* confusing. After I ended up at third base today, she left. She left amicably this time because, well, I'd put her in a good mood. She said she didn't want to risk going further. Now, so far, fine. That's a completely logical way to act, assuming she gives sex with me negative weight. So she is not coming round my house again.

Anyway, we're talking on MSN after the fact, and she says she's having problems commiting herself to it, because she loves me and separating herself from me is painful. She asks for the logical conclusion. I think for a bit, and tell her that as both separating from each other, and making things awkward are about equally painful, which is why she has trouble making the choice, the pleasure gained from what happens when we meet up would appear to tip the scales in its favour.

Now, maybe my logic is flawed, I find it difficult to apply to social situations. However, her response is not any chalenge to my logic, no argument, but merely that she "cannot do that". Why? Because there's a part of her that won't let her; her "logical side". Can she explain this logic to me? Of course not.


*well, okay, non-autistic humans, for nitpickers like /lurk
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 29, 2009, 01:53:36 pm
Which one is third base again?

A special handshake? >_>
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 29, 2009, 02:03:41 pm
Which one is third base again?

A special handshake? >_>

Well, the female equivalent, yes.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 29, 2009, 03:38:19 pm
Wait...I thought you two had stopped and that was the problem...??

You were together again?

Edit: Btw, I use whore as another word for slut, and I'm British...so yeh.

I think whore for a prostitute died out of most people's vocabulary years ago.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 29, 2009, 04:15:33 pm
Wait...I thought you two had stopped and that was the problem...??

You were together again?

Well, nominally, we've stopped. We're not in a relationship. But... things keep happening! It's really confusing  :-\
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Saganmaineiac on May 29, 2009, 04:23:00 pm
and how old are you?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: B.A.S. on May 29, 2009, 05:12:38 pm
Sounds like she just wants to be a friend with benefits AKA: Have sex with you and not have to be in a relationship with you.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Quantum Burrito on May 29, 2009, 05:22:51 pm
and how old are you?

Eighteen, why do you ask?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 29, 2009, 05:41:21 pm
Ignore him QB....

He is a tad bit...well you will see if you choose to stick around.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on May 29, 2009, 07:34:03 pm
You're only proving what Gorman Conall said. -_-'


Anyway, I think Durgon is right on the money with his post.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on May 29, 2009, 09:16:19 pm
At first it sounded like just a rebound.
Now? Now it sounds like she's a typical teenage "doesn't know what she wants and gets hyper-emotional over it no matter what you do".

This is your warning : The relationship to her will make absolutely no sense.
Her reactions will appear nigh-on random. You may get blamed for things. She may beat herself up over nothings. She'll be cold then hot then cold then hot.
The "I like you so much I can't be with you" thing doesn't work. You need to talk to her, a real heart-to-heart, and be honest. You need to know if she wants to be with you, but not have sex. She may just be doing all of this to avoid that one thing. You need to know if she wants intimacy but not a real relationship. Well, you need to know as much as you can, with as little sugarcoating and sideways hints as possible. Then finally, you need to decide whether you're willing to put up with the constant social acrobatics just to have anything to do with her at this point.

If you decide to give it a try, I hope you can muster enough stamina. These kinds of people are incredibly tiring without the extra complications of an autism topping. I'd say the wiser thing to do is stay your distance, but there is always the "nothing ventured nothing gained" side of it...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on May 29, 2009, 10:22:09 pm
Man, I stop paying attention to this thread and a Daxx throwdown happens.  QB's update on the situation lets me give the advice I was going to give anyways.

Drop the physical part of this relationship.  At the very least, until things get sorted out.  What physical pleasure you and/or she may have gotten out of this is being overwhelmed by emotional pain.  Having an honest, heart-to-heart talk about this whole thing is a good idea, as Uro said.  But it sounds like she might not know what she wants, either.  It might be that she wants a friend with benefits.  You'd have to decide then if you want that kind of situation.  But I don't think those setups actually work, especially with someone like you and a person as apparently emotional as her.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on May 29, 2009, 10:49:18 pm
Why not murder? Some deep "feeling" telling me it's wrong? A conscience? No. Neither God-given morals nor arbitrary line-drawing prevents me from going out and murdering people for whom I have no use. Rather, social contract theory and game theory, mixed together in an interesting re-enforcing cocktail of survivalism, are my "guide". I do not murder because I fear punishment and repercussions. I do not murder because social survival strategies often rely on co-operation and mutual trust. It's also possible that I do not murder because I am psychologically disinclined due to millions of years of natural selection pre-programming my brain. I do not believe in arbitrary ethical judgement calls, because whilst rules of thumb are useful, they are not necessarily consistent.

So Daxx, are you like a robot or what? What your basically saying here is that you have no care for human life other than that you need other people to further you own survival. Really? You care for no one? You have no conscience at all? On the slightest level? ...Really? There is absolutely NOTHING in you that prevents you from killing your, say, mother or brother or friends other than the fact that it would hinder your own survival? I find that hard to believe, but if that's true then jeez.   Plus, MILLIONS of years of natural selection? I'm pretty sure that we Homo sapiens are roughly 200,000 years old so...

Also you should leave Gorman alone for simply standing up for what he believes in considering he said multiple times he was just expressing his own belief and not trying to change anyone else's. If he wants to call the girl a whore, why not, you dont know her, he can judge her all he wants, though it doesn't make it right. After all you're post seems to characterize you as somewhat of a liberal person so why suddenly pick on Gorman for that comment? I dont really see a reason for you to butcher his arguments or antagonize his post other than for sheer spite.

And Durgon, REALLY? If your girlfriend went out and had sex with every one of your friends and you confronted her and she continued you would stay with her? Your opinion of her wouldn't change at all? According to you its just sex.



And Burrito. This girl has some issues it looks like to me. Do you want to be with her that badly and deal with all the baggage she comes with? There has to be some other girls you are interested in. Or perhaps you could just leave her alone for a bit and just be her friend until she calms down. If you think the patients will be worth the effort anyway.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on May 29, 2009, 11:30:53 pm
Alright, we're gonna approach this at a new angle. This is all pretty silly because most of you are coming here for some kind of relief and all you're finding is more conflict. Getting an answer in this topic is like pulling a fish out of a river with your bare hands; it can happen but do you really think you'll live to accomplish such a feat? Answers are hard to come by and you can't expect the likes of some of our more... vocal forum members to supply a valid answers for every question (though not for a lack of trying).

So here's what we're gonna do. I've got a lot of time on my hands lately; work is thin and summer classes are spaced out pretty well. Send me a PM with your issue. I'll be happy to read it and, if you'd like me to, I'll even offer my own two cents on it. At worst, you'll be able to get whatever is inside of you out into the ether, and maybe you'll feel a little better; at best, maybe we can have a nice discussion and you might come to a conclusion (and with any luck I'll learn some new things too). Expect to land somewhere in the middle.

Am I tooting my own horn? Absolutely. I can say with confidence that I'm better at dealing with "people problems" than most of the folks here. Yeah you might think you know me but I can say that about four of you have actually taken the time to have a one-on-one with me. Dealing with me in a group atmosphere is vastly different than taking me on head-to-head. If I can do anything to stop the stupid bickering and whining in this topic I think we'll all sleep a little easier. And who knows? Maybe we can all learn something in the process. Don't waste your time with the loudmouths in this topic; they don't want to help you, they just want a debate.

My door is always open and any one of you can send me a PM or an email or reach me on MSN whenever you want. If I'm not there I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I give you my word that I'll listen to what you have to say and that I will be respectful (even when I'm laying the cold, hard truth down on you). You got a problem? Talk to me because I promise that I'm better than the fools you've been dealing with in here.


**EDIT**
By the way, I'm not responding to any problems in here. If you help you know how to get in touch. Do yourself a favor... call me!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on May 29, 2009, 11:43:13 pm
If you just call me; Call me (if you need a friend); Call me (call me); Call me (if you need a friend); Call me (if you ever need a friend); Call me (call me); Call me; Call me (if you need A friend)

Im sorry, but for some reason Bill Withers just.... called to me.

*knee slap*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on May 30, 2009, 01:21:14 am
Which one is third base again?

A special handshake? >_>

The base system explained. (http://xkcd.com/540/)

Yes, it's a little late, but I couldn't help myself.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 30, 2009, 02:00:31 am
I was wondering whether anyone would follow this thread of discussion. If the mods want, the discussion of this can be split off and merged into a different thread of their choice - to help with that I'll split my response in two.

Why not murder? Some deep "feeling" telling me it's wrong? A conscience? No. Neither God-given morals nor arbitrary line-drawing prevents me from going out and murdering people for whom I have no use. Rather, social contract theory and game theory, mixed together in an interesting re-enforcing cocktail of survivalism, are my "guide". I do not murder because I fear punishment and repercussions. I do not murder because social survival strategies often rely on co-operation and mutual trust. It's also possible that I do not murder because I am psychologically disinclined due to millions of years of natural selection pre-programming my brain. I do not believe in arbitrary ethical judgement calls, because whilst rules of thumb are useful, they are not necessarily consistent.

So Daxx, are you like a robot or what? What your basically saying here is that you have no care for human life other than that you need other people to further you own survival. Really? You care for no one? You have no conscience at all? On the slightest level? ...Really? There is absolutely NOTHING in you that prevents you from killing your, say, mother or brother or friends other than the fact that it would hinder your own survival? I find that hard to believe, but if that's true then jeez.   Plus, MILLIONS of years of natural selection? I'm pretty sure that we Homo sapiens are roughly 200,000 years old so...

You misread me entirely. I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying, and drawing conclusions based on a false premise. Let's go back and read my post again.

Neither God-given morals nor arbitrary line-drawing prevents me from going out and murdering people for whom I have no use.

This is a discussion about murder in the abstract. Perhaps there was a better way to convey this, but I thought it was obvious in the context of the discussion: social attachment hasn't been brought up because that wasn't what we were talking about. We were in fact talking about the moral compulsion to not murder other people in general terms, and how that moral code was constructed.

In any case, social attachment is indeed another pressure on me not to murder. I would again attribute this to a mixture of learned psychological attachment and genuine desire not to murder out of the benefit that I gain from having that person around. But that's all it is - psychology. You can't conjure morals out of mid-air and expect people to believe that they're justified - they need reasoning. And when you get down to it, all human moralising is an attempt to rationalise (or otherwise) codes of behaviour drawn from our psychology.

As for the millions of years: evolution of the brain didn't start with the appearance of homo sapiens. A species which kills its own members suffers a penalty to its own survival (there are of course exceptions, but those are usually of the "let's breed lots and kill the weak to make the remainder strong" variety). I could try to explain this in more detail if anyone likes but I suspect a biologist could do it better than I could.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 30, 2009, 02:06:44 am
Also you should leave Gorman alone for simply standing up for what he believes in considering he said multiple times he was just expressing his own belief and not trying to change anyone else's. If he wants to call the girl a whore, why not, you dont know her, he can judge her all he wants, though it doesn't make it right. After all you're post seems to characterize you as somewhat of a liberal person so why suddenly pick on Gorman for that comment? I dont really see a reason for you to butcher his arguments or antagonize his post other than for sheer spite.

I disagree with Gorman. The implication of his post is that natural human sexual behaviour is morally wrong and to be avoided, and he is (in my view unfairly) judging the person involved. Because I disagree with him I am explaining why, and explaining why I believe he is wrong. I do not want to continue discussing this as I believe the argument is over and I had let it go. You are only dragging the level of the discussion down by focusing on a red herring and attempting to criticise tone rather than substance.

Kindly read this handy pyramid before commenting on a discussion again:
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7207/grahamshierarchyofdisag.jpg)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 30, 2009, 02:47:40 am
Sounds like she just wants to be a friend with benefits AKA: Have sex with you and not have to be in a relationship with you.

AKA: JACKPOT!!!!


Anyway yeh, here's a bit of advice for you.

Advi.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Saganmaineiac on May 30, 2009, 05:19:45 am
o_0
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on May 30, 2009, 12:46:23 pm
You see, this is why you should never argue with Daxx.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 30, 2009, 12:59:25 pm
Yeh, you need a diagram now or you lose...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on May 30, 2009, 01:41:21 pm
Well, you cleared up the whole I have no conscience point.


I disagree with Gorman. The implication of his post is that natural human sexual behavior is morally wrong and to be avoided, and he is (in my view unfairly) judging the person involved. Because I disagree with him I am explaining why, and explaining why I believe he is wrong.


Fine; go ahead and argue with Gorman for standing up for what he believes, wrong or right, he wasn't trying to pass his beliefs on to any of us. Just becasue you disagree with someone doesn't mean you go balls to the wall and annihilate every point they make becasue he simply stated what he thought, under the cover of im explaining why I believe he is wrong.  And this is a different issue so I'm not sure what that whole diagram has to do with the fact I'm standing up for Gorman's right to state a fact without being assaulted.  I just dont see why you felt the need to dissect and explain why Gorman is wrong considering his opinion should not have affected any of us once so ever because it was his opinion to state and hold.

Im not responding to the tone of your previous argument here; I'm contradicting your need to explain why Gorman's opinion is wrong.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 30, 2009, 01:54:51 pm
I just dont see why you felt the need to dissect and explain why Gorman is wrong considering his opinion should not have affected any of us once so ever because it was his opinion to state and hold.

Im not responding to the tone of your previous argument here; I'm contradicting your need to explain why Gorman's opinion is wrong.

Oh, so you're standing up for his right to express his opinion but not mine, then? ::)

I completely recognise that he is entitled to hold and express his opinion. I don't agree that I must respect it or that I cannot criticise it.

The argument is over. I let it drop, why don't you try - instead of failing to criticise me on spurious grounds?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on May 30, 2009, 01:59:47 pm
Haha, I don't know I just felt there was a difference in standing up for someone expressing their opinion and not standing up for someone who is expressing their opinion for the sake of contradicting someone else's.

I don't agree that I must respect it or that I cannot criticise it.

Well then, I respectfully disagree. Good day to you sir.

now what am i going to do the rest of the day....
 


Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: B.A.S. on May 30, 2009, 04:02:45 pm
Sounds like she just wants to be a friend with benefits AKA: Have sex with you and not have to be in a relationship with you.

AKA: JACKPOT!!!!


Anyway yeh, here's a bit of advice for you.

Advi.

Thanks for helping me be a winner
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Dwight on May 30, 2009, 06:59:17 pm
A bit late but, another reason that humans beings when given no other reason to not murder will abstain because it is hardwired into our brains to hesitate before doing something irreversible. It is possible and in fact common for people to be born without this hesitation or to learn to override it. Armies around the world train use human silhouettes as targets to desensitize raw recruits to killing humans. I am not disagreeing with anyone, do not use graphs, they scare me.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on May 31, 2009, 09:19:19 am
I kinda agree with eropS Daxx. Your opinions don't need standing up for because you as an individual have completely demonstrated your capacity to stand up for yourself quite well, which is fine and all. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with discussions on opinion, but it seems you do this for the sake of being a "win at everything" kind of guy.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on May 31, 2009, 10:33:59 am
You see, this is why you should never argue with Daxx.
Maybe he needs his own debate thread. "Debate with Daxx".

Anyway, please get back on topic. Pat made some good points and I can vouch that he's pretty good to talk to when you have a problem. You can also write me if you want, I'd prefer to offer advice privately rather than publicly.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Luminar on May 31, 2009, 02:18:31 pm
The diagram we should all be checking is this one:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/SemperTyranusGuild/triangle.jpg)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 31, 2009, 02:45:31 pm
You see, this is why you should never argue with Daxx.
Maybe he needs his own debate thread. "Debate with Daxx".

Perhaps we do, so I can ignore it properly. Some people around here seem incapable of distancing themselves from tone and appear unwilling or unable to engage in reasonable discussion. It seems like every time they're losing, they dredge this up to use it as a defence of poorly-thought out opinions and crap reasoning.

Say what you like about me, but it doesn't make them right. 8)

(http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6083/dutycalls.png)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 31, 2009, 03:12:49 pm
Well you did ignore Dwight's point which completely undermines your main argument. But fine, take it as a win.

I can hazard a guess as to what your reply would be:

"Where are your statistics?"
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Daxx on May 31, 2009, 03:18:45 pm
Actually, I didn't read it. I mentally filter all his posts out. I'll read it now.

EDIT: I don't see where he's disagreeing with me. In fact, he's echoing one of my earlier statements.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 31, 2009, 03:40:26 pm
My bad, I misread one of your earlier posts. I thought you'd said "the only reason people don't murder is because socially it is unacceptable" when actually your point was completely different.

Wow, I feel like a bit of a **** now.

Perhaps I should use a diagram to show that....
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Dwight on May 31, 2009, 06:25:20 pm
I wasn't disagreeing with anyone.
Also,
Actually, I didn't read it. I mentally filter all his posts out. I'll read it now.
sad.

Back on topic, I have a problem admitting I'm wrong when fighting with my psycopathic friend from town, we carpool so there is no way to avoid arguments. I am contemplating his murder.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: SmileyMan on May 31, 2009, 06:52:32 pm
Back on topic, I have a problem admitting I'm wrong when fighting with my psycopathic friend from town, we carpool so there is no way to avoid arguments. I am contemplating his murder.

That's not a problem; that's a solution.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on May 31, 2009, 08:56:22 pm
It's hard letting your pride go. But if you know they're right, you gotta give it to 'em. Also, SmileyMan would make the worst suicide counselor ever.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on June 01, 2009, 03:27:35 pm
Back on topic, I have a problem admitting I'm wrong when fighting with my psycopathic friend from town, we carpool so there is no way to avoid arguments. I am contemplating his murder.

That's not a problem; that's a solution.

Smiley, have you seen your psychiatrist lately?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Detoxicated on June 01, 2009, 03:37:15 pm
so i wonder why you consider Daxx to be a winner in this discussion ::)
Furthermore i dont see the point, where in this discussion, was durgon fundamentalist??? Am i missing something fundamental, or is someone trying to be an opressive atheist... just some thoughts...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: SmileyMan on June 01, 2009, 04:36:21 pm
It's hard letting your pride go. But if you know they're right, you gotta give it to 'em. Also, SmileyMan would make the worst suicide counselor ever.

Yeah, I wouldn't have a lot of returning customers.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Dwight on June 01, 2009, 06:02:57 pm
I was contemplating his murder, not my suicide.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grangan on June 01, 2009, 10:28:34 pm
My mom just died.
This is the internet so I don't expect sympathy.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on June 02, 2009, 12:41:44 pm
Well, most of us hate you, so you're not getting any.


BTW, if you're serious, dude, that sucks.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on June 02, 2009, 01:14:25 pm
My mom just died.
This is the internet so I don't expect sympathy.
It's hard to word this right. I don't know if your serious or not which is a bad thing to think but considering the conversation above, I'm not sure. :(

I'm sorry that happened. How are you doing?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Dwight on June 02, 2009, 02:02:58 pm
My Great Grandmother died the week before christmas so i have a small idea of wat that must be like. I am sorry too. I am not internetted yet so i do have genuine sympathy for you.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grangan on June 02, 2009, 03:52:53 pm
I'm serious.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on June 02, 2009, 04:59:19 pm
I'm really sorry, losing a mom has to be so hard.  :'(
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on June 02, 2009, 05:21:48 pm
You have my Sympathy Grangan  :(.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on June 02, 2009, 09:12:19 pm
My mom just died.
This is the internet so I don't expect sympathy.

Sorry for your loss man.  :(
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cyst on June 02, 2009, 09:16:08 pm
My mom just died.
This is the internet so I don't expect sympathy.
That is sad. Hope your life gets better. I have never lost a relative or friend.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on June 02, 2009, 10:32:54 pm
My mom just died.
This is the internet so I don't expect sympathy.
Oh christ, ouch.
I'd try to muster some kind of advice for you but seriously... just... ouch.
I can only imagine how hard it must be...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Xeno264 on June 02, 2009, 11:33:34 pm
You have my sympathy too. Just hang in there, things'll get better in time.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Snork on June 03, 2009, 06:11:32 am
That's terrible  :'(
Was it expected? Or did It just happen suddenly? And I thought my father's stroke was bad :(
I hope things get better for you, just hang in there..
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grangan on June 03, 2009, 07:36:59 am
That's terrible  :'(
Was it expected? Or did It just happen suddenly? And I thought my father's stroke was bad :(
I hope things get better for you, just hang in there..
Well, there was about a week when it looked likely, then two days when it was absolutely going to happen.  No sort of indication before that, though.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on June 03, 2009, 07:37:37 am
Not to be rude, but what did she die from?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grangan on June 03, 2009, 07:38:42 am
It'll probably be recorded as cancer, but to be more technical it was a disease gotten due to her immune system being weakened by chemotheraphy.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on June 03, 2009, 10:06:44 am
She really had a tough time then, fighting cancer. When the immune system is weak, anything can get in there and cause damage. Things do get better with time but for now, I know it really hurts. If you need to talk, I think you have plenty of friends here to help you.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Dass on June 04, 2009, 11:23:25 am
Ush... sorry to hear that man, you have my sympathies. I lost my grandfather a while ago, which was really close to me, i did not realize he was that close until he died however but nevermind that. I can only imagine what you must be going through now. Best of luck for the time ahead of you.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on June 04, 2009, 01:57:50 pm
If all else fails, just do this:

GD marry me noaw.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on June 06, 2009, 06:40:20 pm
So I took my drunk father out for his usual taco bell run like every night and when we get back were just chilling watching a fire with the rest of my family and then one of these tiki torches we have around our deck catches on fire, so my brother in law walks off to get the hose since it's not that bad of a fire. my dad decides it's a good idea to go up to it and at first shake it throwing fire balls every where burning the grass and nearly hitting my sister who is below the deck. Then he leans on it and pushes it over breaking it and snapping a good chunk of the decks railing with it, then it ignites our brand new pool cover and burns scorch marks all over the grass and yet again almost hitting my sister with it. then my brother in law puts it out. we all yelled at his stupidity and his response to what the hell he was thinking "i was doing what your supposed to do in these situations"



One of these days I'm most likely going to end up killing him for his stupidity...if it doesn't kill him first
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grangan on June 06, 2009, 07:30:36 pm
If your life was a movie, that would be the "Hilarious comedy+special effects show off" scene.  It would be my favorite part.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Dwight on June 07, 2009, 05:00:04 pm
I'm deeply sorry for the loss of your pool cover.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on June 08, 2009, 11:25:25 am
Kaiser, do you mind if I can use that scene to create a blockbuster comedy sketch which will generate millions of pounds?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on June 10, 2009, 01:19:48 pm
Just want to put this out there, don't want anyone to respond. It's just I really need to put this down somewhere.

Unrequited love sucks. Hard
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on June 10, 2009, 01:30:32 pm
Yeh it does. Which is why you man up and tell them.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on June 10, 2009, 01:42:30 pm
Funny story about unrequitted love, I had a crush on someone from grade 7 all the way through high school, but wasn't able to tell her.  Then, at the end of Senior Prom, I finally got the nerve to say something.  Turns out she had just left and I missed my chance.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on June 14, 2009, 11:13:41 am
Unrequited love is one of the worst things ever but it's never wrong to love someone even if they don't love you back.

If you love someone or they mean something special to you, be sure to tell them while you have the chance, even if they don't feel the same. You never never when they might disappear from your life and you never have the chance. None of us are guaranteed tomorrow and you should make each day count.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on June 14, 2009, 11:42:50 am
but it's never wrong to love someone even if they don't love you back.

I disagree with you on that point. Never love anything that can't love you back. They've got to reciprocate or else you're going to drain yourself. That doesn't mean you can't not like a person and hang around with them; but you should try to give as you get if you want to be happy.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on June 14, 2009, 03:06:53 pm
I love you Pat.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on June 14, 2009, 03:35:01 pm
I love you Brandon.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on June 14, 2009, 03:35:38 pm
I will love you Always. I like puns.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on June 14, 2009, 03:38:10 pm
I love you PoW.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on June 14, 2009, 03:55:35 pm
I love you Always.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on June 14, 2009, 03:57:07 pm
I love lamp.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on June 14, 2009, 03:58:51 pm
Maybe you guys should take this to the love (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=15703.330) thread.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on June 14, 2009, 04:15:17 pm
I hate you, LadyM.  >:(

 :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Saganmaineiac on June 14, 2009, 04:25:33 pm
I hate razon. and Kim Jong iI too.

   :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunner on July 24, 2009, 01:19:07 pm
...anyway, I totally hate having feelings for someone, and thinking they have them for you, but then not being able to see them for almost a year, so you have to think about it that whole time.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Snork on July 24, 2009, 01:22:01 pm
Maybe you guys should take this to the love (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=15703.330) thread.
Whut.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Pixxel on July 24, 2009, 01:24:58 pm
@Gunner

Indeed.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on July 24, 2009, 01:27:03 pm
I know the feeling, Gunner.  I have a friend I only get to see once a week, and it's been driving me crazy all summer.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunner on July 24, 2009, 01:29:26 pm
I know the feeling, Gunner.  I have a friend I only get to see once a week, and it's been driving me crazy all summer.
Yeah, it doesn't help that the girl and I both are going to be new at the same school next year.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on July 24, 2009, 01:59:28 pm
Time to take the phone away from Gramps.  Also, if the cops aren't involved, they probably should be.  Get a restraining order or something on the father.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on July 24, 2009, 02:18:34 pm
To be honest, that sounds like a pretty cool book plot you got there.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Snork on July 24, 2009, 02:23:39 pm
To be honest, that sounds like a pretty cool book plot you got there.
To be honest, I agree with you..
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on July 24, 2009, 02:23:50 pm
Sounds like my family, except on a smaller scale.  :-\
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Snork on July 24, 2009, 02:24:35 pm
Interesting.
What drove the man into building Rapture?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on July 24, 2009, 02:25:30 pm
So I got this girl someone made me get with, because she was bitching about him and his girlfriend, being a good friend of her, and to make her calm down, I was asked to get with her. And I did eventually, but now he told her the only reason I'm with her is because of him. And now she hates me. But I really like her now.




tl;dr I'm an idiot
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Saganmaineiac on July 24, 2009, 02:27:20 pm
dummkopf! *facepalm*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Snork on July 24, 2009, 02:31:08 pm
Well, ummm...
I'm not really good with love, so I really don't know...
Good luck with that....
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Celdur on July 24, 2009, 02:39:53 pm
havnt you ever seen and lame ass american teen movie? jeez...just tell her the truth man >.>

or you could just date badgerman
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on July 24, 2009, 05:49:59 pm
So I got this girl someone made me get with, because she was bitching about him and his girlfriend, being a good friend of her, and to make her calm down, I was asked to get with her. And I did eventually, but now he told her the only reason I'm with her is because of him. And now she hates me. But I really like her now.

Explain to her that you do like her and that your friend did set you up, like a blind date. I doubt she hates you, she sounds embarrassed and just needs some reassurance that you really do like her and want to hang out with her.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on July 24, 2009, 05:53:48 pm
Time to take the phone away from Gramps.  Also, if the cops aren't involved, they probably should be.  Get a restraining order or something on the father.

Did I miss (I must have, because the two under it relate to whatever this is talking about) something because this seems highly unrelated to anything i can read on this topic.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on July 24, 2009, 09:13:12 pm
So I got this girl someone made me get with, because she was bitching about him and his girlfriend, being a good friend of her, and to make her calm down, I was asked to get with her. And I did eventually, but now he told her the only reason I'm with her is because of him. And now she hates me. But I really like her now.

Explain to her that you do like her and that your friend did set you up, like a blind date. I doubt she hates you, she sounds embarrassed and just needs some reassurance that you really do like her and want to hang out with her.

This is perfect. Naturally if she doesn't forgive you then you are well with in your rights punch your friend out for burning you the way he did.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on July 24, 2009, 09:24:02 pm
Sorry erops, something must have been deleted.  Talk to Snork about it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Snork on July 25, 2009, 04:43:35 am
I accidentally deleted my post :(
Here's the TL;DR version:
My Gramps phoned the murderous father of my cousin's best friends, they left the area, not telling anyone where they've gone, and now everyone hates him to the point of murder..
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on July 25, 2009, 02:05:09 pm
So I got this girl someone made me get with, because she was bitching about him and his girlfriend, being a good friend of her, and to make her calm down, I was asked to get with her. And I did eventually, but now he told her the only reason I'm with her is because of him. And now she hates me. But I really like her now.

Explain to her that you do like her and that your friend did set you up, like a blind date. I doubt she hates you, she sounds embarrassed and just needs some reassurance that you really do like her and want to hang out with her.
Thanks M, I'll try that. This is why every forum needs a wise and experienced member.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 25, 2009, 04:25:59 pm
NO YANNICK ITS A TRAP.

LadyM is a member of the enemy camp and is not to be trusted  :-\
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on July 25, 2009, 04:58:50 pm
Goddamned women with their goddamned periods and bitching about pregnancy goddamnit.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on July 25, 2009, 07:47:46 pm
Wait, what about you and a pregnant girl?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Saganmaineiac on July 25, 2009, 07:51:53 pm
Wait, you changed your name to BPP? WTF?!?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doomsday on July 25, 2009, 08:41:50 pm
He didn't change it. I did, at his request. We don't really need to discuss it. It was his choice and I don't see anything wrong with it.

As a side note, I'm beginning to see somethings I don't like in certain people's posting patterns. I'd recommend those persons to start thinking about how and what they type a bit more carefully.

Yay, vagueness!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on July 25, 2009, 08:55:52 pm
Oh wow, I just remembered that you were a mod.

Haha. Fun stuff.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on July 26, 2009, 02:17:21 am
Does nobody remeber why we have spoilers? So we can cut out the small writing.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grangan on July 26, 2009, 06:52:01 pm
I finally have a girlfriend; but my dad is forcing me to spend my entire summer at various camps across the country and she doesn't ever access her email during the summer and I don't know her phone number so I can't even communicate with her when I'm in the breaks between camps.  ;(
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cow on July 26, 2009, 07:22:45 pm
I finally have a girlfriend; but my dad is forcing me to spend my entire summer at various camps across the country and she doesn't ever access her email during the summer and I don't know her phone number so I can't even communicate with her when I'm in the breaks between camps.  ;(

Facebook. It cures both the plague and the problem you have.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on July 26, 2009, 08:49:25 pm
Webcam. It cures both plagues and allows for hot cyborz
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Veraal on July 26, 2009, 09:13:42 pm
Gun. It cures your puny and meaningless life.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunner on July 26, 2009, 09:15:48 pm
Living with it. It cures nothing, but its the simplest way to go.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on July 26, 2009, 09:16:17 pm
Cow and erops, those aren't really options if he can't tell her about it.  Veraal, shut up.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: MetallicDragon on July 26, 2009, 09:16:43 pm
Cowbell. It's the only prescription.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on July 26, 2009, 09:55:16 pm
Pr0n, it's convenient and fits in a small booklet. Plus, you can look at it anytime you want!  ;D
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on July 26, 2009, 10:13:45 pm
Sometimes I wonder if this thread has truly been helpful at all. :P
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on July 27, 2009, 09:15:34 am
Ditto.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Saganmaineiac on July 27, 2009, 09:35:29 am
ditto as well.
(http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/ani132.gif)
Back on topic people.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cow on July 27, 2009, 10:14:33 am
Cow and erops, those aren't really options if he can't tell her about it.  Veraal, shut up.

You can search for people on Facebook by name. That's presuming that she has a Facebook, but it's worth a shot.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on July 27, 2009, 10:29:45 am
Back on topic people.

Stop it. You're not helping.

If you want the thread to follow a certain topic, say something relevant to that topic.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on July 27, 2009, 11:14:16 am
Hm you know that picture of Ditto really capsulizes Sagan pretty well. All he does is repeat what the poster said above him in a weaker fashion in an attempt to get their approval. Kinda like Ditto (The repeat in weaker fashion) (Unless you have an IV EV'ed out Ditto).


Anyway Grangran what you're going to have to do is ask her friends maybe for her phone number via facebook/email/phone (if you know any of them) (If not ask one of your friends whos phone numbers you have for the number of a friend of hers and then call said friend and ask for the number of your girlfriend)! Then you can chat with her via phone!

Problem solved.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cow on July 27, 2009, 12:05:15 pm
That might work, but the friends may not have mutual connections.

Back on topic people.

Stop it. You're not helping.

If you want the thread to follow a certain topic, say something relevant to that topic.

The irony of this can almost be tasted, it's so thick.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on July 27, 2009, 01:38:09 pm
I'm sure he can chain together a group of people that will eventually lead to one of them knowing his GF's number.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on July 27, 2009, 02:00:13 pm
That might work, but the friends may not have mutual connections.

Back on topic people.

Stop it. You're not helping.

If you want the thread to follow a certain topic, say something relevant to that topic.

The irony of this can almost be tasted, it's so thick.

I never said to get back on topic. We can go off into la-la land for all I care.  ;)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Veraal on July 27, 2009, 07:25:23 pm
I say we should just ban everyone.

How about this for contribution: I feel like I have wasted away the summer holiday, even when I have been doing loads of stuff besides sitting in front of the computer.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on July 27, 2009, 07:31:10 pm
Me too.

Actually, not really.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on July 28, 2009, 09:31:19 am
Hm you know that picture of Ditto really capsulizes Sagan pretty well. All he does is repeat what the poster said above him in a weaker fashion in an attempt to get their approval. Kinda like Ditto (The repeat in weaker fashion) (Unless you have an IV EV'ed out Ditto).

You clearly don't know how to handle your Dittos. They are bad motherlovers.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on July 29, 2009, 12:10:57 am
Sometimes I wonder if this thread has truly been helpful at all. :P

I have a helpfull solution for any of those non-serious problems (anything high-school related, and whatnot, cant get a date, find your existence meaningless, hate the world, stuck in a monotone of dispair, all that garbage):

stop whining
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on July 30, 2009, 11:12:12 pm
...someone give this man a winner. please.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on July 30, 2009, 11:37:18 pm
Do it yourself, you lazy bum.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunner on July 31, 2009, 06:23:56 am
Ugh... I hate when you think someone has feelings for you, and people say they do, and they act like they do, but you still can't be sure.
And if you are sure, you can't do anything, because your schedule is full 'till September. :(
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on July 31, 2009, 08:43:10 am
Gunner, when something walks like a duck, you think it's a duck and other people say it's a duck; it's a goddamned duck.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on July 31, 2009, 12:23:23 pm
Or it's a goose and people don't know the difference.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on July 31, 2009, 01:01:09 pm
Doesn't anyone use email or chat? There are many ways of communication to get through times that you can't be together in person.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on July 31, 2009, 05:10:26 pm
E-mail? Surely you must be talking about sE-gulls? This is the 17th century after all!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Saganmaineiac on July 31, 2009, 05:50:01 pm
Ahh...The 17th Century... :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17th_century
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Veraal on July 31, 2009, 06:52:29 pm
I'll start reading that entire page and all it's links right away, Sagan, THANKS!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Axelgear on July 31, 2009, 07:02:29 pm
Any century before the 21st is worse than it, just as every century after it will likely be better. My goodness, what a time to be alive.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunner on July 31, 2009, 07:53:17 pm
Gunner, when something walks like a duck, you think it's a duck and other people say it's a duck; it's a goddamned duck.
Well, I still f'ing blew it. :(
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on July 31, 2009, 08:10:27 pm
You blew a duck? You sick bastard.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Andrew Ryan on July 31, 2009, 08:16:13 pm
Yannick, don't make me use my CAPS LOCK.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on July 31, 2009, 08:21:55 pm
Use it. It's cruise control for cool.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on July 31, 2009, 10:21:29 pm
No don't! Keep the discussion on topic.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: B.A.S. on August 18, 2009, 12:04:31 pm
YES YES YES! Im BAAACK! I dont know if any of you remember my story but: I was in Northern Alberta for almost a year, I was away from the people I grew up with and pretty much in a horrible city. I was having a tough time with it but I have some good news!

Im finally back in Vancouver Canada! Got in a 8 days ago and caught up with all my friends! I cant even begin to describe the euphoria I felt of finally returning home! It was great. Just wanted to say thanks to all those that supported me throughout this stage of my life on GS Cheers to ya'll!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on August 18, 2009, 09:57:03 pm
Glad to hear it, Durgon!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on August 19, 2009, 09:52:43 am
Hooray! Let's go punch stuff, Durgon!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 02, 2009, 09:18:17 pm
Hmm...

I'm stuck.  Should I let you all know I actually have feelings and a life or stay off this thread and continue to be the troll you all think I am?

To troll or not to troll.  That is the question.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on September 03, 2009, 07:48:50 am
Trawl.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doomsday on September 03, 2009, 07:56:18 am
To troll or not to troll.  That is the question.

Great.. now I have to think about how the rest of that speech would go.

"To troll, or not to troll; that is the question. Whether t'is more annoying to flame bait in the hot thread and face contempt, or to be an inferno in the sea of flame and thus by flaming end them. To troll, to flame - No more. And by a flame to say we end the boredom and complacency that a broad of thousands is heir to. Ti's a consummation devoutly to be wish'd. To troll, to flame - To flame? Perchance to be banned. Aye, there's the rub, for in that state of banning who knows what flames may come when we have shuffled off this immaterial coil."

Trollet said it. >.>

Edit: Damn it. Now I'm gonna be late for work.
Edit: Edit: Typos. >.>
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 03, 2009, 09:11:06 am
Wow... that's actually pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on September 03, 2009, 09:57:20 am
That.... That was beautiful Doomsday. *sniff*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Snork on September 03, 2009, 10:18:13 am
*sheds a tear*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on September 03, 2009, 10:22:08 am
That was very nice... Excuse me, I have something in my eye... BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWW!!!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kenobro on September 03, 2009, 10:26:26 am
Alright, really, the first time someone said something it was true but now it's just like a bunch of old women talking about their lost loves.

My personal problems are too personal too discuss but one.  I have dreams of murder.  I dreamed last night that I stabbed myself in the eye, and would try and pull away but it was like a magnet.  I'm ****ed.  Once I dreamed I was in a plane that crashed, and I was the only survivor.  It's very disturbing to have these dream.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Putspooza on September 03, 2009, 11:46:36 am
Don't think it means something, it's a good thing you have these dreams as they act as a valve for your murder urges. if you didnt have them you'd probably be stabbing people now.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 03, 2009, 11:49:46 am
Yeah.  But most people take out their anger issues with... y'kno, VIDEO GAMES.  Not to criticize or anything, but I find it a little funny given the topic that created this forum in the first place.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Putspooza on September 03, 2009, 12:11:33 pm
Yeah.  But most people take out their anger issues with... y'kno, VIDEO GAMES.  Not to criticize or anything, but I find it a little funny given the topic that created this forum in the first place.

Im pretty sure we had dreams way before we had video games.

besides video games are just dreams with very bad graphics, immersion, and customization to each person, I mean sure you can go around and shoot aliens, but you can never "actually perform" the action of beating your boss with a crt monitor to death.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on September 03, 2009, 12:15:39 pm
Yeah.  But most people take out their anger issues with... y'kno, VIDEO GAMES.  Not to criticize or anything, but I find it a little funny given the topic that created this forum in the first place.

Why yes, video games are absolutely one of the best ways to take out your anger with. But that's not to say that most people do that. In fact, I'd say that most people find some other ways to relieve pressure. Some might go for a walk or punch some bags or yell at their parents. Me, I like to claw at whatever happens to be at hand at the time and then go to somewhere quiet to weep a little.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 03, 2009, 12:32:37 pm
but you can never "actually perform" the action of beating your boss with a crt monitor to death.

You can if you make them yourself.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Putspooza on September 03, 2009, 12:34:07 pm
I meant you cant do that in a video game. unless it was custom tailored to fit your boss. and would somehow connect to your brain and send the response signals that it would get if you would do those movements.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 03, 2009, 12:35:45 pm
That's what the wii is for.  Well, that's what it was SUPPOSED to be for.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Putspooza on September 04, 2009, 04:21:36 am
Wii is only good for tennis at parties of people who dont play tennis
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on September 04, 2009, 08:55:52 pm
What about WiiMotionPlustm?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 04, 2009, 09:15:16 pm
That's just made to hose money out of people that were waiting for a year for Sports Resort.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kenobro on September 05, 2009, 07:13:49 am
No it isn't, considering that it comes free with the game.  Plus it actually does help a lot.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doomsday on September 05, 2009, 08:12:29 am
No it isn't, considering that it comes free with the game.  Plus it actually does help a lot.

I dunno... dndfreak was sort of right, in a way. One comes free with the game, but any good Wii owner would have between 2 and 4 WiiMotes to play with other people. This means you need to buy the other 1-3 WMPs. All gaming companies do something similar and it is to there to help generate profit, but that's business. There is nothing wrong with what they are doing. So in that respect, dndfreak is wrong.

Anyway, this is the Personal Problem Discussion Thread, not the Let's Discuss Business Practices of the Video Game Industry Thread.

People start posting your problems, now. And make them juicy! :P
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 05, 2009, 08:30:02 am
Well technically, if I had a problem with WMP, it would be my personal problem.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doomsday on September 05, 2009, 09:33:38 am
Well technically, if I had a problem with WMP, it would be my personal problem.
It'd be a gripe.

Anyway.. problems.. problems. Hmm.... I suppose it would have to be the confusing way in which my life works out, and how I always find myself in these long distance relationship settings. What is it about me that anyone within a 20 mile radius wants nothing to do with me on a romantic level? Well... I'm not really complaining cause I'm happy but it's just odd how that always works out.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on September 05, 2009, 10:15:19 am
I was going to say something and then I remembered you are a moderator.


Anyway, my current personal problem is figuring out what to do for school. I need to make a 10-page report on some Roman dude. Help me figure out what Roman dude. (Not Julius Caesar nor August)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kenobro on September 05, 2009, 10:17:46 am
Do the Gods and Goddesses of Mythology count?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Didero on September 05, 2009, 10:21:58 am
Anyway, my current personal problem is figuring out what to do for school. I need to make a 10-page report on some Roman dude. Help me figure out what Roman dude. (Not Julius Caesar nor August)
Take your pick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_topics_related_to_ancient_Rome#Scholars). It might even prove interesting. :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yannick on September 05, 2009, 10:24:01 am
No, it must be an existing one, and thanks Didero, that should be really helpful!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Detoxicated on September 05, 2009, 01:19:12 pm
do nero, its about the most interesting character from ancient rome history...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on September 05, 2009, 03:25:29 pm
Do a prominent gladiator or slave, everyone does Emperors.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doomsday on September 05, 2009, 04:22:37 pm
If you wanted to do something for kicks, do it about Jesus. >.> He lived in a state that was under Roman control (thus a citizen of Rome). <.< Oh wait.. you said they had to be REAL. In that case... go with a Philosopher/Scholar.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 05, 2009, 04:49:39 pm
Calligula was fun/

If your idea of fun involves having people flayed to death.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on September 05, 2009, 05:03:04 pm
I wouldn't expect trollish behavior from a mod.  Go figure.

Do one of the later emperors.  The more corrupt and inept, the better.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 05, 2009, 07:59:20 pm
Who deleted the reply when I said OH SNAP?  If it WAS you doomsday, then it's you shouldn't be crucifying me for bashing Christianity on a public forum.  Even I wouldn't have gone there.

Please don't ban me
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doomsday on September 05, 2009, 09:17:28 pm
It was off topic, and spam. I deleted it for those reasons and no other. My semi-Trollish behavior aside (I keep forgetting, no one gets my sense of humor on the interwebz), your post was off-topic and even less helpful than mine. Move along.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 05, 2009, 09:30:45 pm
Oh no, I thought it was funny.  Trust me, I'm not exactly offended by it :P

Anyways, technically speaking Jesus would be a viable candidate for the same reasons that on questions about evolution you can just write "god did it".  Barring this route, most scholars and historians believe that Jesus did exist as a human being, whether or not his bible depiction is accurate.  The trick would be to isolate the solid facts from the shaky ground.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kenobro on September 06, 2009, 08:13:31 am
Jesus existed.  Everyone agrees with that.  They disagree on whether he was a god or the son of God though.

Wait, this isn't the religion topic.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Putspooza on September 06, 2009, 11:03:03 am
not everyone agrees on it keno. we are talking about a guy called jesus son of err...joseph i think, which was as common then as "john smith" is now, and he is pretty much only known since he's the "son of god" and all that, so if you strip him of that, it seems pretty silly to say "look here is his grave" if there isnt like a quote or something that reads "man remember that one time i turned water into wine?" on the tomb.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on September 06, 2009, 11:14:50 am
Jesus existed.  Everyone agrees with that.

(http://i31.tinypic.com/x5cpj8.gif)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on September 06, 2009, 11:22:48 am
Oh random-fluctuations-in-the-space-time-continuum, somebody post a personal problem before this devolves into poop-flinging.

I would, but it's too soon in the school year to have any problems.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on September 06, 2009, 11:49:45 am
The discussion is pretty irrelevant anyways.  There was more to being a Roman citizen than just being born inside the Empire.  Pretty sure Jesus wouldn't have been a citizen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_citizen

So yeah, use something from Didero's list.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on November 03, 2009, 07:32:11 pm
I am posting this as i believe it will make me feel better to speak my feelings to a third party because for personal reasons i don't share these feelings with many in real life.

A couple days ago i ran in to an old friend i have not seen in a couple years, this friend i have known him since he was a little Tyke.

I ran in to him because it turned out he was dating my cousins sister (who is also my cousin) a few days later (last night) he died in a car crash.

It bothers me yes..and i also feel my my cousins sister and his own family as i used to be pretty close to them.

I have fought depression most of life, i have to be very very careful not to thinking about negative things and thats usually hard as they creep in to my mind often. I just seen this guy after years and in a flash he is gone.

Its made me think about my own family and those really close to me and what if something happened to them, how would i feel and cope with it?

The thing is something could and sooner or later unless i die first something will happen to them, it is inevitable and i can not change that, everyone dies.

The logical solution would have been early in life to distance my self from everybody, never marry never make friends and never be close to my family. That way i would never have to experience that kind of pain, yes thats crazy but it has been going through my mind.

Because to be quite honest if Serenity or my parents were to die, i highly doubt i would survive afterwards.

I don't know, sitting here bored at my cousins house i just really felt like posting this.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on November 03, 2009, 07:48:55 pm
Yes that is the best thing to do.

Never be friends with anyone, and be a shell of a man! That way, when someone dies, you are still the same lifeless shell! It doesn't affect you at all, and you wont commit suicide.


But you will want to die. Oh yes.




Feeling snarky + watching "Ask that guy with the glasses!" = this monstrosity.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on November 03, 2009, 08:27:55 pm
...Well darn. I was going to post something about tvtropes being my problem, but I would sound like an ass if I did that.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on November 03, 2009, 08:43:19 pm
Sure losing a person close to you is painful and while it may seem logical that by not knowing anyone then you can't be hurt losing them in fact you will find the oppisite to be true get to know lots of people make more firends and close relationships in the rare occasion someone is tragically taken from you you have this wide support base of friends and family to help you through. You don't have to go through that pain alone and it is a lot easier to recover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmOtWyjs8iU
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on November 04, 2009, 05:16:02 am
Gorman, try to look at it in a different way. You hadn't seen this person in a long time and then you did before he died. Think of that as a gift. You got a chance to see him and talk to him one last time, you'll have that memory to carry. Yes, you will miss him and it hurts as it does when anyone close to you dies but with time, the hurt does go away and life goes on. You never forget the person you lost but they live on in your memories and thoughts. People do love again and live again.

You can't hide yourself and not get to close to people for fear of losing them, that's not healthy. It's part of life and no matter how much you hide from it, it will happen eventually to someone you know. Try to live your life to the fullest, be happy and do the things you enjoy with the people you enjoy. Don't worry about the "what if's", just deal with the "what is".
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on November 04, 2009, 08:19:28 am
Thanks, i feel a bit better today then before.

I have never had a friend die before, in fact i have only ever lost one person i was close to and that was my grandpa and i was wee little when that happened.



Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Detoxicated on November 04, 2009, 08:26:15 am
The gift of life brings you the gift of death. If a person dies he fulfilled and has become something else. It is sad to everyone around, but in the end he isnt suffering anymore, he doesnt have to struggle through life, hes beyond that. Death is not a punishment, nor something bad, it only brings away people that you liked.

The seclusion of oneself to never lose anything is a common thought, many share your idea at some point in their life. You are not alone, you face demons of mankind, not your personals. If you secluded yourself you would life a life in misery, instead of enjoying life and having periods of misery when bad things happen.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on November 04, 2009, 09:22:52 am
I guess we've pretty much covered this, but I wanted to throw in my two cents.  Death is always sad, especially for loved ones, but eventually it happens to everyone.  It's part of life, it's part of being the flawed little squishy creatures that we are.  I guess that isn't very helpful or comforting, but it's something we all have to come to terms with.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on November 04, 2009, 09:27:58 am
Heartbreak is the single most hardest thing you will have to deal with in life.

You are not the first, to have wondered if it is really worth becoming close to people, if in the end, we can lose them and it can break our hearts. It seems like an exercise in futility and delayed self-punishment, doesn't it? And sometimes, I think we all want to walk alone, if just for a little while. But is it not better, that you feel sadness in their absence, as a sign of rememberance of the good times you shared, than have simply never known each other at all, and felt nothing in his passing? It is painful, the little heartbreak we feel, but it is a silent debt we pay to those who enriched our lives in their own way.

Life is not fair, nor is it easy. This is why we take the risk of opening to others, even knowing what may come; for nobody knows when our ride is over, and we simply want to have enjoyed it... to have lived a life worth remembering. It aches now, but you still have the gift of life. The passing of others only reminds us of the importance of sharing the good times, right? When your heart is not so heavy, and your eyes are not so clouded with sadness, you will see life with a renewed sense of depth. Hang in there.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cyst on November 04, 2009, 09:44:34 am
To sum up everyone else's thoughts. Life sucks. People die. Deal with it. We can't stop it. It may hurt but it goes away. Deal with it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: /lurk on November 04, 2009, 09:49:14 am
Don't know if this'll make you feel better or worse, but the vast majority of car crashes are caused by some form of driver negligence - also, young men tend to be the most prone to this sort of thing. So if he was the one driving, it's probably his own fault that he crashed.

In any case, you'll get over it eventually - just don't do anything you'll regret because of it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on November 04, 2009, 09:50:36 am
To sum up everyone else's thoughts. Life sucks. People die. Deal with it. We can't stop it. It may hurt but it goes away. Deal with it.

It never goes away. It just sorta fades, but never entirely. The pain of losing a love one can be with you for your entire life.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on November 04, 2009, 09:55:26 am
To sum up everyone else's thoughts. Life sucks. People die. Deal with it. We can't stop it. It may hurt but it goes away. Deal with it.

It never goes away. It just sorta fades, but never entirely. The pain of losing a love one can be with you for your entire life.

For some it does.  Hell, it's happened to me so many times I don't even care when someone dies anymore.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cyst on November 04, 2009, 10:32:22 am
If it doesn't go away: Deal with it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on November 04, 2009, 11:40:54 am
I'm not going to speak for everyone, but I'm not saying that life sucks at all.  I'm saying that like everything else, life has it's ups and downs.  It hurts to lose a good friend, but years of friendship before that make it worth getting attached.

Lurk, I've tried all day and I can't see how that would make him feel better about it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on November 04, 2009, 11:44:47 am
Don't know if this'll make you feel better or worse, but the vast majority of car crashes are caused by some form of driver negligence - also, young men tend to be the most prone to this sort of thing. So if he was the one driving, it's probably his own fault that he crashed.

In any case, you'll get over it eventually - just don't do anything you'll regret because of it.

He was the passenger, His friend was driving under the influence and crashed, My friend died instantly but the driver lived with none life threatening injurys. Not that it really matters, a dead loved on is a dead loved one regardless of how they died.

Anyway thank you everyone for replying, just about everything on the forum did, >_>

I wouldent do anything stupid, thats not who i am, i just have a lot going through my mind right now but i'm feeling better then i did before. Anyway i really diden't want that much spot light anyway. But sometimes its nice to put my feelings in to text.

I'm not going to speak for everyone, but I'm not saying that life sucks at all.  I'm saying that like everything else, life has it's ups and downs.  It hurts to lose a good friend, but years of friendship before that make it worth getting attached.

Ink your right, i don't want to think about losing anyone close, but as the saying go's its better to have loved and lost then to have never loved at all.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on November 04, 2009, 01:13:41 pm
Quote from: Bagder Man 22
deal with it
Protip : Saying "deal with it" doesn't help anyone, and reveals you as a douchebag.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on November 04, 2009, 01:33:57 pm
Stating your opinion doesn't make you a douchebag.  Go ahead, look through the last page or two and count up whenever someone says deal with it.  It's pretty much everyone.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on November 04, 2009, 01:35:36 pm
That just proves that most people are douchebags.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on November 04, 2009, 02:02:09 pm
Those three words are just the summary of what everyone here has said, it doesn't matter how you pretty up the message with vocabulary.  Whatever you want to call it, moving on, leaving them in memory, not sulking because they wouldn't want you to, whatever bullcrap people are typing all boil down to the same three words and everyone here knows it.  It's the only advice anyone's ever given someone who's lost someone dear: deal with it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on November 04, 2009, 02:06:54 pm
There is a huge difference, the tone in which you say it.  One is of a sympathetic person trying to help someone deal with grief, the other is of a douchebag saying to suck it up and be quiet about it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cyst on November 04, 2009, 02:18:16 pm
I am a douchebag. If you don't just deal with it you will have major mental problems. I lost my great grandma a few months ago. I dealt with it. I have a fine life. Now look at people who didn't just accept a loved one's death. Odds are they are depressed.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on November 04, 2009, 02:30:19 pm
There is a huge difference, the tone in which you say it.  One is of a sympathetic person trying to help someone deal with grief, the other is of a douchebag saying to suck it up and be quiet about it.

And yet it's just empty words, it's the same message either way.  Telling someone to deal with their problems doesn't make you a douchebag, the fact is that no matter who helps you along the way you can only deal with emotional problems yourself, no one else can magically make it magically disappear.  In the end, it truly doesn't matter what anyone else says, all that matters is your own mind.  There is a way to get help coping, but the pain will always be the forefront of your mind until you alone accept it and deal with it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on November 04, 2009, 04:19:27 pm
Except that common usage of the phrase "deal with it" actually means "not my problem" "stop whining" and sometimes as far as "**** off". An part of actually 'dealing with it' comes through expression and sometimes being consoled a little through friends. Which is hindered when they get an essential smack in the face from trying to do so, by people just saying "deal with it". Its not hard to understand, so i'd appreciate it if you stopped twisting a simple thing into a pointless debate, especially given the subject. Tact isn't the same as sugarcoating.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 04, 2009, 04:22:08 pm
I am a douchebag. If you don't just deal with it you will have major mental problems. I lost my great grandma a few months ago. I dealt with it. I have a fine life. Now look at people who didn't just accept a loved one's death. Odds are they are depressed.

Are they depressed because they didn't 'get over' a loved one's death or can they not get over it because they're depressed?

Hmmmm...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on November 04, 2009, 04:26:11 pm
Wow. Never thought of it like that before Sam.

For some it does.  Hell, it's happened to me so many times I don't even care when someone dies anymore.

You have no soul.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on November 04, 2009, 04:58:44 pm
Quite possibly.  My grandfather died a few days before either and my first thought was that I don't have to get a tie.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on November 05, 2009, 08:23:28 am
Warning, one rude word.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on January 09, 2010, 08:37:11 pm
Ok.

There's this girl. Big surprise I know. Anyway so she is basically my best friend and about 2 months ago she basically told me she likes me, wants to date me, and didn't want to leave high school wondering if me and her would've worked out. Two months ago this was. Also, fun fact, she had a boyfriend. Another fun fact? I am basically crazy about this girl.

Well one day she breaks up with her BF, then twelve hours later gets back together with him. I'm a bit irked, and she is all 'Ah but i felt so bad! And i didnt want to end it with him because I wanted to date you!' So basically, she is pity dating him.

So, nothing really happens until Christmas break, where we hung out a lot and she liked being with me and stuff. However, whilst dating her BF still. Also, she would basically send me text with reasons we wouldn't work in an attempt to sort of convince herself out of the relationship. I, being me, and wanting to date her, would defend myself. Anyway. So we have fun over Christmas break and stuff, and perhaps too much fun. I probably wasn't the best of people to her BF one night and things may have gotten a little more touchy feely than intended. Anywho so this sends her on a tizzy about how she feels really bad for him and i suddenly become the bad guy because I was ok with what happened at the time. Mind you she did minimal to stop anything at all. But eh, whatever. I dunno if she got over it or not but we didn't really talk about it much afterwards.

Anyway, so she broke up with her boyfriend like last Sunday. Mind you, this girl is one of those people who feel really bad when someone feels bad, so she is like "Well, he is really crushed, and me being with him will make him feel better, and you actually can man up and wont feel as bad if I don't date you." I'm not ok with said plan for obvious reasons and express those to her. She basically says well yeah you're right but I dunno.

So she comes up with this brilliant idea that she wants to take the month to think about it. Basically, wait, not basically, I have a text here somewhere were she says she is actually taking the month to see if she thinks her and her ex BF would work out or if she would rather date me. Complete BS. I know. So I say, 'So i'm supposed to wait a month, twiddling my thumbs, in the hopes that you don't get back with your ex boyfriend? And if you do I have wasted the past three months?'

Yeah, that went over about as well as you would expect. I eventually get this text, this, ****ing text, that drives me ****ing crazy every time i read it: "Well, I mean, I know I like you, him, I don't. His actions even if not to me directly have to make me like him again. You just have to be you"

WHAT?! WHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

No joke. That is a real text. So I basically say, "So, wait. You like me and want to date me, yet you want to give this other guy a chance to win you back?" She just says I'm tired and need sleep. And we never really touch on it again.

So. Friday, she hangs out with her ex and tells me, 'Gosh, he was like he was back when I liked him and had fun and stuff! Why couldn't he be like that 5 months ago.' Gee, thanks for telling me that eh? Thats precisely what I want to hear. And at work today I get this little number: "&I feel bad cause he&I had fun last night,like how it used to be&we talked today&he wants2take me on a date next wknd&i wanna go, but u are both getting led on.." How the hell do I respond to that? At all?

 Anyway so tonight we were supposed to hang out. But were not. Obviously. Because she was tired and didn't feel like going out and was having trouble with her mom and it doesn't matter who she was going to see she wouldn't see them anyway. So I tell her that it sucks that I lost out to a ten minute drive. And she really can't say anything because its true. And so she's just sorry.

Like, I dunno. I feel like every time we have spoken after she broke up with preston, I am pushing her away. And that sucks. But what the hell? How do I just up and take that kind of stuff? How do I respond to that lol?

Seriously though. All I need is if I am wrong or right. If she's being a B or not. Is it worth staying in for?

A 'Dam...' will also work :\
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on January 09, 2010, 08:45:46 pm
Perhaps try telling her something along the lines that if she keep dating her old BF just out of pity, it's like lying to him.  It's not healthy.  The best thing for all parties is for her to break up with him.  Sure, he'll be hurt for a while, that's to be expected, but he'll get over it eventually and move on.  Besides, you both really like eachother.  If she allows the two of you to leave high school without getting together, she may one day come to wonder what could have been.

So yeah, downplay your own benifit in this, and explain how it is in the best interests of both her BF and her.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on January 09, 2010, 08:52:46 pm
Yeah but dude. She already broke up with him. And she reasons that its not out of pity. This girl can do some serious mental gymnastics in that regards.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on January 09, 2010, 09:08:46 pm
Don't forget you can also use that pity thing to your own advantage.  I don't mean to sound like the manipulating @$$hole here, but if she was dating him sheerly because she felt bad for him then perhaps you can use the same method to switch her focus of attention, mind you only as a last resort.  It's risky, yet possible that by accentuating your feelings of frustration toward the situation that she will come to realize that by trying not to make one of you suffer she's only hurting the other even more.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on January 09, 2010, 09:18:09 pm
Why are there never problems here that I can help with? I hate not being able to help. Then again, I don't seem to have the same feelings as other people.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on January 09, 2010, 09:18:36 pm
Kind of agree with dnd here sure it is kind of dodgy playing her own heart strings still I wouldn't be above letting her know that. Surely she knows that in trying to spare the feelings of one guy who she doesn't like so much she is hurting the feelings of some guy (ie your good self) she really really likes. On top of pity dating this other guy is just going to end badly anyone can tell that.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gungnir on January 09, 2010, 09:23:50 pm
...can't you just tell her you're pissed and why?

Forward that wall of text. Or parts of it. Take control!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on January 09, 2010, 09:33:10 pm
...can't you just tell her you're pissed and why?

Forward that wall of text. Or parts of it. Take control!

Yeah, that won't end well.  Sadness plays off her feelings, softens her up.  Anger pushes her away.  At least that's what I get from erops's post.  If one were to push forth with that angry connotation, it wouldn't end well.  When you'd talk in a near psychotic rage to someone like that you're just going to push them away and the meaning of your words will be lost.  There's nothing against saying what he feels, but he should do it with a tinge of self pity instead of the element of anger and frustration.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on January 09, 2010, 09:43:49 pm
She has two guys. One of you is the 'fallback', the other is her primary interest. Which of you falls into which category seems to bounce around a lot. Regardless of her reasons or how aware she is of her own actions, she is being dishonest with the both of you, and is not really considering your feelings in this matter. She might be a nice person all in all, but her handling of this betrays the fact she is terribly (emotionally) immature. Getting into any form of relationship with a person like this is like knowingly walking into a minefield.

Sure, some people are willing to take that risk, because the heart is not a thing of logic, but I would just stop it before it starts, and consider yourself lucky at having avoided a confusing trainwreck later down the line.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on January 10, 2010, 12:15:51 am
This is going to come off harsher then most advice, but about these things I feel being truthful and blunt is the best.

First of all, lets not forget the other guy, he is a victim as much as you are and he is being played just as much as you. When a girl has a boy friend, you back off, no exceptions. If she is confused blah blah. Let her deal with it and when she in the clear then go for it. As long as she is stuck on the other guy you have no business interfering and to be honest. The other guy has every right to pop you one considering you messed around with his girlfriend knowing she was taken.

Second I would watch it, Don't fool yourself in to believing you are special or different to her in anyway. She fooled around on him, if she ends up with you she very well could quite easily fool around on you.

Third, how the hell old are you guys? you mentioned high school so ill assume under 20. That plus the things you said demonstrate that whole lot of you lack the maturity to even be involved in a relationship. At the very least the girl has some growing up to do. Save yourself some heart ache and cut the puppet strings she has you attached to and move on to bigger and better fish. These sort of games never end well.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 10, 2010, 12:20:55 am
Just give her an ultimatum.

I know you like her and everything but if she's not willing to dump this guy then its not worth chasing after her.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on January 10, 2010, 03:38:59 am
This is going to come off harsher then most advice, but about these things I feel being truthful and blunt is the best.

First of all, lets not forget the other guy, he is a victim as much as you are and he is being played just as much as you. When a girl has a boy friend, you back off, no exceptions. If she is confused blah blah. Let her deal with it and when she in the clear then go for it. As long as she is stuck on the other guy you have no business interfering and to be honest. The other guy has every right to pop you one considering you messed around with his girlfriend knowing she was taken.

Second I would watch it, Don't fool yourself in to believing you are special or different to her in anyway. She fooled around on him, if she ends up with you she very well could quite easily fool around on you.

Third, how the hell old are you guys? you mentioned high school so ill assume under 20. That plus the things you said demonstrate that whole lot of you lack the maturity to even be involved in a relationship. At the very least the girl has some growing up to do. Save yourself some heart ache and cut the puppet strings she has you attached to and move on to bigger and better fish. These sort of games never end well.

Normally I agree with the idea of never cutting another man's lunch still I don't think it should be blanket statement for each and every occasion. Still I would try and find out what your chances are if she comes back to you with anything short of I'm going to dump him so we can run away together I say forget that it isn't worth the hassle gather up your best guy friends organise a guys night what ever you kids do when for a guys night out when you're too young to get into a bar. Find your self a better girl with better attributes typically desired by the superficial man.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on January 10, 2010, 04:38:43 am
what ever you kids do when for a guys night out when you're too young to get into a bar.

Don't encourage him to smoke pot, you should know better than that.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on January 10, 2010, 05:08:15 am
Who said anything about that?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on January 10, 2010, 07:58:45 am
Wow. Internets pretty helpful sometimes. Thanks.

So I think basically what I'm going to do is just take a step back from her and this whole thing she has going on. After reading some of this stuff I basically realized I'm hardly being myself and thats not really something I want to continue doing. I don't know, I think I am just going to stop caring as much and just see where it takes me. I don't really want to manipulate her feelings like that by using them against her because then I would feel dirty if I ended up being with her. So I think I'm just going to do whatever throughout the month and not care about the situation as much. If she ends up with me, she ends up with me; if not, then eh, it won't be the end of the world. Basically more of a, I'm tired of dealing with this so come back to me when you have a decision.

And Gorman, its hard not to interfere because she came to me. Its not like I sprung all these feelings on her one day. And yeah you're probably right about the age thing too but eh, thats a large reason there is a problem in the first place and well we tend to make mistakes easier lol.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on January 10, 2010, 10:07:11 am
We cant control our feelings, no matter how old or young we are. We can only control our actions. When we get those feelings, logic leaves our minds completely, we do outlandish things or things that make sense at the time but seem stupid later. Its almost a kind of high.

Anyway the easiest way to forget about a girl..is to find another one, no joke, I don't even mean in a sexual manner. As soon as you find another girl that has a genuine interest in you, you will be surprised how much easier it is to forget. Not to mention, its fun as hell to go to a place and try to meet new girls, even if you get shot down its still a rush to try. The best thing about that is you don't know the girls personally, so there's no pain involved at that stage.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on January 10, 2010, 10:11:36 pm
Based on what is of course limited information, I think I agree with the general consensus.  It sounds like she has no idea what she wants and in the meantime is leading the two of you on.  I kinda doubt she's going to clear her head in a month, but maybe you will be able to.

I'm glad I read over the recent conversation here tonight.  I spent the weekend hanging out with some friends, some of which have been dating for years and some of which have recently gotten engaged.  I have to admit that I am very jealous of their relationships because they act like themselves around each other.  I've been thinking it over tonight after talking to another female friend and realized that when it comes to girls I'm interested in I'm always tensed up, walking on eggshells, overly cautious so as not to say the wrong thing.  I think it may seem like I flirt more with girls I'm not that interested in because I'm not afraid of the consequences, of saying or doing something stupid and blowing it.  I guess I need to work on just being myself, and if she isn't interested in that then it wasn't meant to be.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on January 11, 2010, 12:18:18 am
just be yourself, and if she isn't interested in that then it wasn't meant to be.

Words to live by.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: B.A.S. on January 11, 2010, 12:25:38 am
just be yourself, and if she isn't interested in that then it wasn't meant to be.

Words to live by.

Unless not being yourself gets you p00n...by all means become Ray Jay!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gungnir on January 11, 2010, 02:59:25 pm
Good advice, I must say.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Eagle on January 11, 2010, 03:23:25 pm
Look, the moment you showed her you're interested in her, you became pretty much her bitch. I can see from what you wrote that she's the manipulative kind of person. She'll pretty much play both of you until she gets tired of one and dumps him. At this rate, you'll be the one dumped and she'll get back with her boyfriend for another week or two. However, even if she picks you, you seriously want to get with this trainwreck of a girl?


EDIT: I know you're crazy about this girl, and that's why she has your gonads in a vicegrip.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Luminar on January 11, 2010, 04:00:09 pm
Remember above all else that love is not a necessity. Society can call you a loser and unsuccessful all it wants, but you know where you stand best of all before anyone else does. They are not in the position to judge who and where you are - you are.

You do not NEED to find love. I do recommend doing so as it is very enriching and empowering, but the harder you chase it the faster it will fly from your grasp. Love is something that by and large happens on its own - the initial spark, at least. Once that is established mutually (and you'll both know whenever that is) you can build on it then. Before then though, just keep your life ticking over and do what pleases or advances you provided it doesn't bring harm or ruin. If fortune wills it, love will find you.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on January 11, 2010, 04:19:17 pm
I don't say this very often, but that was great post Luminar. One of the best I have seen on the internet in a long time.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Eagle on January 12, 2010, 08:36:23 am
I cannot read your post seriously with that avatar.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 12, 2010, 02:49:55 pm
Yea so I had to do a presentation for a book and I spent about a week preparing my speech since we're not allowed notes or anything, have to do it off the top of our heads. So anyways I have and always have in the past had massive nervousness when it came to standing in front of people (whom I'm not completely affiliated with). Anyways I get up to do my presentation and I'm actually not feeling that nervous, then as soon as I go to start, every last thing I was going to say I forgot. Needless to say I scrambled to try and save myself but utterly failed scoring a 33 on the presentation and barely passing the class with a 65.


What I'm guessing I'm trying to say is, why the hell can't I stand in front of crowds and talk casually like I would with a large group of friends. Since it's basically wrecking my school grades.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on January 12, 2010, 06:09:39 pm
Well, to put it scientifically, the brain controls your speech differently depending upon the situation.  There's a condition called a focal dystonia where the parts of your brain for some speech functions are inactive while others work perfectly.  Some people, for example, can't speak at all but they can sing or recite poetry with ease.

The fear of public speaking is sometimes a mild form of this dystonia, but there's a simple way to avoid it, at least in a classroom setting.  All you have to do is pick out one or two people that you would normally talk casually with and be sure to focus your attention at only those few people during the course of the presentation.  Hopefully, this will enable your casual speech nerves to take over for the ones controlling group presentations.

However, if your problem is a phobia and not a medical issue, I suggest getting used to speaking to multiple of these casual friends at a time.  Hopefully, it should build up enough tolerance so that when you speak to a group of somewhat less familiar people you won't be anywhere near as nervous.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on January 13, 2010, 05:27:59 am
The way I would deal with it is to get a friend to shine a light in your eyes. That way, you forget about they audience.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 13, 2010, 06:47:38 am
In 'The Code of the Woosters' by PG Wodehouse, one of Bertie Wooster's old schoolfriends overcomes his fear of public speaking by thinking of every fault his key audience members possess and writing them all down in a diary so his contempt for them overcomes his fear.

Of course... hilarity ensues (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HilarityEnsues).
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on January 13, 2010, 06:21:02 pm
... why the hell can't I stand in front of crowds and talk casually like I would with a large group of friends. Since it's basically wrecking my school grades...

That is quite a problem... :-\

Kaiser, where do you look at during your speeches? Sometimes, concentrating on a smaller portion of the audience helps reduce tension by creating the illusion that the number of spectators are smaller. You can also try focusing on your friends, as dnd said earlier.

If you know someone who can instruct you on proper deep-breathing exercises, you can try asking them to teach you so you can do it before you go on stage. Proper DBEs helps reduce tension in your respiratory system, and body in general, which allows you to better fight against stuttering.

I hope this helps.

Also, good luck. :)


Ps. If ever it seems to be too hard to overcome, trying to ask veterans in the medical field, especially those that you are well acquainted with, is always helpful. They don't have to be exactly psychologists, though if you know one, that would be advisable. :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on January 13, 2010, 06:34:56 pm
Or go to the old staple of picturing everyone in their underwear.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 13, 2010, 06:36:50 pm
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Kaiser, where do you look at during your speeches?
I'm starting to think you guys enjoy misspelling my name

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Sometimes, concentrating on a smaller portion of the audience helps reduce tension by creating the illusion that the number of spectators are smaller. You can also try focusing on your friends, as dnd said earlier.
Unfortunately the room I'm in we need to look straight ahead and the class rooms desks are in a U shape so you can see everyone even on the sides of you. And of course I have only 1 friend in that class with me and it doesn't exactly help that half the time he is sleeping on his desk.

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If you know someone who can instruct you on proper deep-breathing exercises, you can try asking them to teach you so you can do it before you go on stage. Proper DBEs helps reduce tension in your respiratory system, and body in general, which allows you to better fight against stuttering.

Honestly I do all that deep breathing stuff and try to calm myself but I'm the kind of guy that can't shake worrisome thoughts from his mind (When I was like 8ish I couldn't get the thought of my inevitable death out of my head and couldn't sleep for weeks because of the morbid reality of it even though I kept trying to get the thought out of my head) On top of that I over-think things looking at every possible outcome that could happen, just happens most of the time most of them are bad.

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Also, good luck.
Here's hoping I don't bomb my senior essay one next year

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Ps. If ever it seems to be too hard to overcome, trying to ask veterans in the medical field, especially those that you are well acquainted with, is always helpful. They don't have to be exactly psychologists, though if you know one, that would be advisable.
I've been to an array of psychologists before (not for this exact problem but for other....things, that I don't feel like sharing) and honestly I don't trust them or doctors.



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Or go to the old staple of picturing everyone in their underwear.
You know, wouldn't that be really awkward..that or arousing since half the class is females....*cough*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 13, 2010, 06:37:58 pm
One thing I always noticed is that many people have a misconception that it's somehow wrong to feel nervous when you're speaking in front of a group. Word to the wise: everyone is nervous when they speak in front of people. You just have to ignore it and keep on going. If you make a fool of yourself, might as well have fun while you're doing it. At least that's how I look at it. Personally I hate public speaking... but man do I love it! :D
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 13, 2010, 06:43:42 pm
Oh I know some of them are nervous, probably not the kids that get up their and show off their singing skills that got them on american idol


And being a fool at my own expense to amuse others doesn't suit my style. I'm more of the quietly brooding "I hate each and everyone of you but I'm going to pretend like I actually care"
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 13, 2010, 06:53:20 pm
I'm not saying you make a fool of yourself on purpose. But if you're too afraid to look foolish while standing in front of people you're never going to have a good time. If you're having a good time, most of the time the audience is having a good time. It also helps to totally own the material you're presenting. Don't go up there without knowing what you're talking about.

And engage the audience. It's not a one-way presentation. The room belongs to you for however long you're up there. Get some audience participation. Not only will it surprise an audience, it will get them involved and make them (and you) care a bit more about what's being discussed.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on January 13, 2010, 06:59:33 pm
Gotta agree with Pat there.

Especially when it comes to knowing the material. That helps immensely. :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on January 13, 2010, 07:08:13 pm
When you have notes consider it a license to say anything. One of the best grades grades I got was with out notes. It was only a B but considering how little preparation I did not having notes helped me. We had to do a 5 minute oral presentation on a major news subject. I choose an issue about wild Dingos attacks a boy at was on a camping trip. I really hadn't done much work on it in fact I hadn't even written down what I planned on saying yet. No one else in the class had brought theirs in yet (probably same reason I hadn't brought mine in they hadn't written anything down if they did anything at all). I said I didn't have mine but was willing to give my presentation from memory. I went up and just talked about what I had remember reading about the story got a B because I didn't look like I was just reading off a bunch of cards and engaged the audience.

You don't have to hide behind cards if you know the subject. I seriously was just putting out a ton of bull and got a B.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on January 16, 2010, 06:37:15 am
We have to speak on front of everyone in french in a week or so, which I'm very bad at.

And my partner basically doesn't speak it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 16, 2010, 01:17:16 pm
Just write everything down beforehand.

Or copy all the dialogue spoken by the french knights Kerniggits in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on January 16, 2010, 01:31:30 pm
A handy technique I leanred a number of years back is to not actually look at the audience, but to look at the wall behind them.  Just find something of interest on the back wall that you can stare at.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on January 16, 2010, 04:34:00 pm
We have to speak on front of everyone in french in a week or so, which I'm very bad at.

And my partner basically doesn't speak it.

You wouldn't believe how many times I was stuck doing that with Kaizer.

But yeah, typically the best way is to read em the lines ahead of time, as long as he can pronounce it right it won't really matter if he doesn't know the meaning of what he's saying.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on January 16, 2010, 08:56:59 pm
Meditate. Always worked for me. If that doesn't work, destroy something, no matter how small. Be sure to destroy it as violently as possible, that gives the best vent for emotions, especially anger. Frying bugs with a magnifying glass used to make me feel a lot better when I was younger.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on January 16, 2010, 09:05:03 pm
Thanks. I appreciate the help.

I guess I'll just do something like that later.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 17, 2010, 01:47:51 am
Meditate. Always worked for me. If that doesn't work, destroy something, no matter how small. Be sure to destroy it as violently as possible, that gives the best vent for emotions, especially anger. Frying bugs with a magnifying glass used to make me feel a lot better when I was younger.

Great. If there are any murders in your area I'll know who to tell the police about.

By all means meditate Yuu, but don't kill or destroy anything. That is a bad way of coping :P
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on January 17, 2010, 07:08:38 am
I meant like stomping on a piece of paper, with cleats or something. I've only resorted to frying bugs when I was feeling like I wanted to kill someone.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Detoxicated on January 17, 2010, 08:24:34 am
You wanted to kill someone?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on January 17, 2010, 08:55:24 am
Well, hurt them. Badly. Never did, though. I'm not that strong.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on January 17, 2010, 09:26:02 am
So if you were strong enough then you would have fought them/him/her? Fights aren't based on strength alone ya know. You also need to have strategies, speed, and have a little bit of luck. Thats only naming a few things that you need. But its better that you did nothing at all, because violence only breeds violence.

One day you will wake up with a bug army waiting to kill you.
-signed
The Bug King
p.s. Thanks Grazony for letting me use your computer. ;P
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on January 17, 2010, 10:37:10 am
I did do something. I fought. Then, he beat me up. Then, I was mad at him, I knew I couldn't beat him, so I started frying bugs. I can't even remember why I fought him, I do remember it was something insanely stupid. I think it had something to do with a stick.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on January 17, 2010, 10:45:02 am
Rys, don't ever advise someone to destroy something to vent anger.

That is very likely, the worst advice I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 17, 2010, 10:53:41 am
If your mad just go play videogames and piss other people off in chat or voice talk

makes me feel better and nobody gets hurt!....wait
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on January 17, 2010, 10:58:17 am
Rys, don't ever advise someone to destroy something to vent anger.

That is very likely, the worst advice I've ever heard.
Always worked for me, if meditation failed. Meditation fails very rarely, though.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Didero on January 17, 2010, 11:01:19 am
Just because it works doesn't mean it's good advice. Killing the person you're mad at resolves the anger too, but it's a horrible thing to do.

Destruction is never the solution to anger.
Unless it's virtual, like Kaizer suggested. Ignore his advice to insult other people though ;)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on January 17, 2010, 11:41:00 am
Heck, I like to destroy things even when I'm not angry.

Well, mostly it's just cutting or tearing up some waste paper. Stuff that I was going to throw out anyway.

Personally I find it relaxing.

And what's this about venting anger? Well, if I get really mad and there's not much I can do about it, I just walk off into my room and punch a wall. Kicking works, too. Or picking up some dirty clothes from the floor and throwing them against the wall. But if none of that can be done, I'll just swallow up my anger and be cranky for a little while. It goes away eventually.

My suggestion? Throw around some clothes. They rarely hurt anybody.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 17, 2010, 12:23:39 pm
Nothing wrong with venting anger at all! Everyone should do it to keep from going crazy.

But don't be a sociopath. :D
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on January 17, 2010, 12:30:27 pm
Humans can be violent quite easily, its much better to take your anger out on things that don't matter then to take them out on a person.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 17, 2010, 12:41:18 pm
Or your neighbor's dog.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on January 17, 2010, 12:43:47 pm
Or your neighbor's dog.
Which is things that don't matter.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on January 17, 2010, 04:09:41 pm
You do realize that meditation and killing bugs with a magnifying glass are pretty much exact opposites in dealing with anger, right?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on January 17, 2010, 04:25:53 pm
Well, they both work for me.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on January 17, 2010, 04:30:50 pm
You do realize that meditation and killing bugs with a magnifying glass are pretty much exact opposites in dealing with anger, right?

Never hurts to cover all the bases :P
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Eagle on January 18, 2010, 02:01:55 pm
Well, they both work for me.
You are a strange, strange, little man.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on January 18, 2010, 02:09:20 pm
Aye laddy, that I am.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: B.A.S. on January 19, 2010, 10:14:52 pm
Aye laddy, that I am.
*Sigh*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on January 20, 2010, 06:25:53 am
It was a reference to a comic.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Snork on January 20, 2010, 10:21:05 am
When I'm angry I just play video games. Or shout. Shouting always helps.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on January 20, 2010, 10:58:42 am
or if your mad then just go in the closet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kEerkUgQuw
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Luminar on January 25, 2010, 10:02:49 pm
No life should have to pay in blood to satiate another's fury. Sadly this seems to be the way of things on an excessive scale.
Try building something out of composite parts. When you get mad, smash it. Then once you've spent your anger, rebuild the object. Lego or something I guess. Let's be honest, if you're that mad you're going to break or ruin something, whether by accident or purposely. You might as well vent such destruction on something built with the purpose of being destroyed. Then once the explosive anger is spent you can get rid of the brooding, dormant volcano phase of anger by sitting building the thing back up.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on January 25, 2010, 10:10:55 pm
Thanks guys.


It really helped a lot to cool me down.


Whew! Well, I guess that's it.

I'll keep those tips in mind the next time something like that happens.


Again, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on March 16, 2010, 01:38:53 pm
Have you ever had a dream that you not only wanted to do more then anything, but in the pit of your stomach, or deep in your heart it felt like it was the thing you were born to do, that every molecule of your being was built specifically for that purpose. A dream that's tangible and with in your very grasp yet one you could never attain because to do so you would have to be selfish? To do so you would have to go agains't the protests of the ones you love that urge you not to do it and even go as far as to use pity to stop you?. That your lifestyle conflicts completely with that of your dream and you would hurt everyone in your life, possibly even yourself?

What do you do?

When you try to put that dream behind you and forget about it, but you are pained anytime you are reminded of it. When your best friend for reasons unknown achieved your dream and lives it, one that he never had shown any previous interest in and now you must look at him and know that he is everything you wanted to be. When you get out of the shower and stare in to the mirror as the reflection of your own face stares back in to you in to the pit of your very soul, looking at you with sorrow filled eyes asking why you chose to throw it all away.

How do you know.

That even if you became the selfish person and gave the finger to world, that once you achieved the thing you yearned most for that you wont regret it, that you wasn't  wrong, that when you get there you don't look behind yourself and say. Maybe I was wrong, maybe I wasn't cut out for this. What if you do that, and that very dream is a one way trip, one that you can not go back on should you have second thoughts?

How do you deal.

Living the rest of your life never achieving the dream when you could reach out and grab it. When you have a single life to live how will you deal with the question of, what if? what if I had chased my dream while I was still young enough to it. Could you really be happy not knowing? not experiencing it?.  How, why what....

Could you really be happy?

I'm not really looking for any responses. I don't hold the value of other peoples opinions that high anyway. Sometimes when something gets me down it feels good to write about it, but if I write to myself its the very same as keeping everything I feel bottled up and this topic seemed like the best place to put it. Feel free to disregard or not read it. I wouldn't expect you to.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on March 16, 2010, 09:54:41 pm
What do you do?
Think upon it, over a long span of time. Some decisions are made and nobody even even flinche, and yet others can shake the very foundation of your life. Any decision of importance, is often best made with consideration. Opinions and situations can change in time. Whilst a window of opportunity can slip us by, sometimes with pause for thought, we realise some windows just lead to nowhere. Perhaps even the gamblers golden rule applies here : Never gamble what you cannot afford to lose.

Selfishness is not a bad thing, after all, do we not eat for the single purpose of sustaining ourselves? Do we not bathe to keep our hygiene, or spend upon entertainment to sate ourselves? Life is a gift, and to willingly let our clocks tick down without indulging a little, is to lay to waste the single greatest thing we know of. To indulge at the expense of others, however, is an infinitely more complex equasion, in which your own morality and personality features. Beware, however, the 'false' selfishness that people thrust upon us. Even with the best intents, good people can latch into pieces of our lives and claim ownership, frowning at us for decisions that are ours to make and nobody elses. "You will hurt us, by not following our wishes" is a form of control, sometimes with good intent, but a form of control nonetheless. No, we as human beings owe ourselves a mandatory level of selfishness, for otherwise, how could we accomplish our little goals, or chase our dreams, fruitful or not? A friend may scowl if you support an opposing sports team. A parent may become enraged because you chose to get a tattoo or piercing, or turned out to have a different faith or sexuality than they themselves are comfortable with. A sibling or loved one may sneer because of an exclusive diet you chose to keep, or a political view you adopted. Yet these are selfish things we MUST have full 'inner freedom' to choose. People who claim to become hurt by such basic choices, have presumed to possess a slice of you that is not theirs to own. Life is for living, and with enough forethought, NOT reaching out to explore what is before you is a grave disservice to yourself. A simple part of being an adult is being able to make your own decisions, and make your own mistakes.

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That even if you became the selfish person and gave the finger to world, that once you achieved the thing you yearned most for that you wont regret it, that you wasn't  wrong, that when you get there you don't look behind yourself and say. Maybe I was wrong, maybe I wasn't cut out for this. What if you do that, and that very dream is a one way trip, one that you can not go back on should you have second thoughts?

How do you deal.

Living the rest of your life never achieving the dream when you could reach out and grab it. When you have a single life to live how will you deal with the question of, what if? what if I had chased my dream while I was still young enough to it. Could you really be happy not knowing? not experiencing it?.  How, why what....

Could you really be happy?
Life is an ever-branching tree of decisions we made and happenstances we stumbled across. Sometimes these paths can cross, and not every decision we make is one-way. The hardest part of life is sometimes in simply accepting that whilst some decisions we can take back, time, and indeed life, are a one-way street we will one day need to turn off from. Some of us are adventurous spirits who could never make peace with themselves in the end, if they left even a single stone unturned in their life. Some, like me, are unashamed to remain daydreamers who remain content sitting on what little patch of harmony they have found. The only real path of the fool is to continue a course of action when you realise it is simply not working for you. Even the most resolute of us must learn to move and change, from our static routines, when something becomes amiss... and even daring folk must learn when to stop pushing their luck, and settle for what they have, if only for a while. Is it just me, or am I starting to sound like the Sphinx from Mystery Men? To go right, you must first go left! :3

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I'm not really looking for any responses. I don't hold the value of other peoples opinions that high anyway. Sometimes when something gets me down it feels good to write about it, but if I write to myself its the very same as keeping everything I feel bottled up and this topic seemed like the best place to put it. Feel free to disregard or not read it. I wouldn't expect you to.
It almost sounds like this post was prompted by a dream. The sleeping kind. Some dreams can really get under our skin and leave us exasperated and restless... in a manner that your post pretty much seemed to describe. Reaching for what almost seems like an illusion. Yet the way you speak about it, makes you sound like you're on the brink of making a decision. A decision that feels much like standing at the edge of a cliff, one you have stood at before, looking, and wondering if you should make that leap. Even if all you are doing is daydreaming, only you can gauge your willingness to make or induce change. There are no right answers, there is only what you would regret more : Not taking an opportunity and be left always wondering how it may have turned out, or taking it and longing for something you can no longer have back. Just remember that sometimes the scale and importance of some decisions can be distorted by fear and pressure; even if you jump off a cliff, you may be surprised to find that sometimes you can climb back to the top again. Opportunity may only knock once, but there is more than a single opportunity waiting for you out there. Just remember that gamblers golden rule. Don't wager what you can't afford to lose.

I hope you find some clarity on what was bothering you, soon.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on March 16, 2010, 11:06:26 pm
Uroboros.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on March 30, 2010, 09:24:57 am
I feel like I have no control over my life. Everyone just pushes me around and decides things for me without asking my opinion. And if I try to look for support, I just get shot down with accusations of how I should've handled things better. People just expect too much of me. I should do what I'm told without complaining, get good grades and stand up straight even when I'm feeling tired. I get the feeling that no one would like me for who am I if I just one day stopped working hard for silly school grades and achieving things. When I get compliments from someone, it's always because of something I did at school. Other times I just get complaints on every pointless thing that I apparently did wrong, about stuff like not shoveling snow efficiently enough and even the way I frickin walk.

I'm getting really tired of people expecting all sorts of things of me. What if I don't live up to their expectations? What do I have left then? I don't have any friends anymore, because I was too afraid to put myself out there. And everyone else just defines me by my achievements. I guess they are right in a way. I should've handled things better, made friends and stuff like that. I made a choice that I don't need any people in my life, so I suppose it serves me right that I have to deal with all my problems by myself now and keep up the facade of everything being alright by doing well at school.

And actually, when I don't give any thought to these things, I really do feel like everything's fine and my life is good the way it is, and I dun need no one else in my life. But I should realise when the slightest comment or the smallest turn for the worse makes me feel completely paralyzed for hours, perhaps I'm not dealing with things as well as I could be. I am honestly tired of having to hold back tears because of the smallest things making me upset, and afterwards not even understanding what the hell was supposed to be so horrible about it in the first place. Today I got completely off my rocker for over an hour because I learned I had to make some stupid decision a bit earlier than I thought. Couldn't concentrate on anything.

Honestly, the whole thing is just silly and is really eating up my strength. Normally I'd disregard it all together, but now it's just happening more and more often and is really distracting me from more important things.

Things like doing well at school, succeeding at everything and showing everyone that I can fricking take care of myself.

Oh well, looks like I'm back to my normal state of mind again. Might as well stop writing now.

Though I just know that tomorrow I'm going to get all weepy over nothing again.

How the hell do I make that stop?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on March 30, 2010, 09:32:32 am
I think we all face those sort of situations, it's no different than most people. There's really nothing we can do about it. But we can adjust how we react to it.

We all make mistakes, but we keep trying. People do have valid reasons for their concerns and sometimes they misjudge. But trying to discern whether they are right or wrong creates that tension. How we react to it can better the situation.

Look upon things in a positive manner and continue doing what you believe is best. If you know a choice you made creates tension, try to see how you can adjust the situation. Most of the time. An adjustment of thinking, without any drastic change to your lifestyle, will make things better.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on March 30, 2010, 10:22:24 am
Just stop living up to everybody else's expectations and start living up to yours. If you have a supportive family or group of friends, it can be a whole lot easier, as they'll respect you decisions, maybe even encourage them. If people are criticising the way you walk or standing or whatever that's their problem.

Don't try to succeed at everything, your work at school should be stuff you and you alone should be happy with. Settle for above average if must do.

Find distractions. They may be counter-productive, but they help you cope. If you find a distraction, or 'hobbies' as I believe they are called, that helps with other problems, that's great.

Don't be afraid to change your mind at the last second. Have total conviction in your actions, no matter how disasterous they might turn out later.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on March 30, 2010, 10:47:02 am
A person should always value the advice and opinions of others, but one should never make the mistake of living in such a way to impress others. The only expectations you ever need to meet are you're own. If friends or family aren't okay with that then they aren't very good people to be around anyway.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 30, 2010, 11:42:59 am
Seems to me like your problems are the sort of thing that get less bad as you get older.

Once you gain some independence and go to college/get a job/ whatever you want to do and start striking out on your own you can stop worrying about what other people want you to do, for the most part :P
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on March 30, 2010, 11:48:46 am
:D

That's what I'm counting on.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: GroxGlitch on March 30, 2010, 11:55:29 am
I know how you feel, man. I have a Gunnery Sargent, who was in the Marine Corps for 25 years, as a stepdad. He's retired, but he still treats me as if I'm a newbie straight from Paris Island.   :-\
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on March 30, 2010, 11:57:49 am
If your personal text and signature is any indication, I can see why.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: GroxGlitch on March 30, 2010, 12:16:04 pm
If your personal text and signature is any indication, I can see why.
Oh, har-de har har. I'm alot different on the internet than I am in real life.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on March 30, 2010, 02:14:34 pm
Of course.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: GroxGlitch on March 30, 2010, 02:21:26 pm
Of course.
If I acted like I do in real life on the internet, I would be instantly banned. -_-
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on March 30, 2010, 02:26:07 pm
Of course.
If I acted like I do in real life on the internet, I would be instantly banned. -_-

5 points to you, Good Sir!

Spend them wisely.

EDIT: Sorry, I thought you said "If I act like I do on the Internet in real life, I would be banned instantly" that would have been quite funny.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: GroxGlitch on March 30, 2010, 02:27:58 pm
Of course.
If I acted like I do in real life on the internet, I would be instantly banned. -_-

5 points to you, Good Sir!

Spend them wisely.

EDIT: Sorry, I thought you said "If I act like I do on the Internet in real life, I would be banned instantly" that would have been quite funny.
I spend them to upgrade to GroxGlitch v. 2.0! Quake in fear of my awesome annoyingness!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 30, 2010, 02:32:02 pm
Why do we need to fear you?

It would take me about a minute to ban you, tops.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: GroxGlitch on March 30, 2010, 02:33:14 pm
It was a joke. Or I could just annoy you to death.....Nah, I shouldn't think that, Banhamma > Annoybeam.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Luminar on March 30, 2010, 04:30:29 pm
Claiming you are annoying and stupid for whatever reason is annoying and stupid in and of itself. Give it a rest.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on March 30, 2010, 06:16:31 pm
So... does that mean it was a success?

In any case...




Good luck, GD. Here's hoping things turn out fine in the end. :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on April 30, 2010, 09:23:56 pm
 I hate myself right now, for about every reason. To say the most cliched, annoying thing ever to be whined about. I feel like a joke.

So, there's this girl, but she has a girlfriend...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on April 30, 2010, 10:53:44 pm
Sorry buddy, but I have to post this now.  I literally have no choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVF8NvDZ_XA
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on April 30, 2010, 11:29:45 pm
I feel horrible for laughing.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 01, 2010, 02:51:22 am
I feel horrible for laughing.

Really? I don't.


Of course, Crazen, I think the "Move on, fish in the sea, apples in the apple tree, wilderbeast in the savannah" saying carrys strong here.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on May 01, 2010, 10:09:04 am
thats the least helpfull advice ever.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on May 01, 2010, 11:21:14 am
Yes, because lying will things all better.

He's right, though. If theis girl has a girlfriend, there is not much you can do. Except using the South African method, but that never works.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 01, 2010, 11:38:40 am
I've never met a nice South African...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on May 01, 2010, 12:04:41 pm
thats the least helpfull advice ever.
There really isn't much we can say, man.
If we were talking about someone you liked who was single, then we might have some pointers. The person you're interested in is with someone else, and short of subverting their will to be with that person, there isn't anything you can do. Its one of those "over before it started" deals. It sucks ass, we know this, but you can't really do anything but wait and hope for an opportunity in the future. Do your best not to become fixated on who you can't be with, and in time, even if you were cut up over this, you'll be alright.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on May 01, 2010, 12:45:55 pm
I've never met a nice South African...

And that's nut bluddy surprising mun.

Intentionally misspelled.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on May 01, 2010, 12:54:39 pm
well I've known her for a few years now (she had a boyfriend for a couple months, nothing serious) and I'm actually friends with both: coincidentally met them separately. I knew them before they knew eachother. Not that is means anything. I know there is no solution, but i'm going to whine about it anyway. besides I feel happy for them. sort of, in an abstract way.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 01, 2010, 12:54:50 pm
I've never met a nice South African...

And that's nut bluddy surprising mun.

Intentionally misspelled.

... I... I love this forum.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on May 01, 2010, 01:03:58 pm
Moan and pelvic thrust in front of them, it always works. Plus you might just get both of them at the same time doing this!

Edit:
Lets not beat around the bush here. This is what EVERYONE thought when they first saw that post.
Exactly!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 01, 2010, 01:09:59 pm
Plus you might just get both of them at the same time doing this!

Lets not beat around the bush here. This is what EVERYONE thought when they first saw that post.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on May 01, 2010, 08:23:18 pm
Actually, I was thinking "Gotta try that some time," so ha.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on May 04, 2010, 09:09:32 pm
But it's weird. This is a pattern with me or something, cause I've had it happen four times. Within the year that I meet a girl she will announce that she's become bi or homosexual.

So i'm surrounded by lesbians.


(mostly a joke)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 06, 2010, 04:06:15 pm
I feel hated by everyone at school.



Except this one girl who I know doesn't... well likely doesn't.


But all my other friends have either stated outright they don't like me, or they're acting different, like they don't want me around, and are just putting up with me.


This has only started since monday.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunner on May 06, 2010, 05:10:39 pm
Hm. That seems sudden. Are you sure you just aren't looking at it differently? That's what tends to get me down.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Detoxicated on May 06, 2010, 09:05:10 pm
So why would they hate you? Have you done something terrible? Or is it more of a paranoid feeling that they hate you?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on May 06, 2010, 09:40:09 pm
I get that paranoia feeling all the time that everyone secretly hates me.

and can read my mind. and there are cameras in my eyes and people are watching through them, seeing what I see.

seriously.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on May 06, 2010, 09:45:25 pm
I feel hated by everyone at school.



Except this one girl who I know doesn't... well likely doesn't.


But all my other friends have either stated outright they don't like me, or they're acting different, like they don't want me around, and are just putting up with me.


This has only started since monday.

The same thing happened to me, except that no one outright stated it. I no longer have any friends. Boohoo.

I don't know, maybe you should ask them what's wrong and if it's something you can change, try that. But if it's something you can't do anything about, then just leave and go find new friends.

And even if you don't find new friends right away, you'll find that sometimes being alone is easier than being with people who don't want you there.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on May 06, 2010, 09:47:54 pm
It isn't. I've tried it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cyst on May 06, 2010, 09:55:35 pm
On a related note

I started hanging out at a radio station and met this hot girl. She is almost like a female version of me. We think alike and all that ****.

Sounds great, right?
Wrong.

Turns out she likes another guy who is the boy-toy of another chick. And I have like, no chance at all.

Oh and she is a nymphomaniac. >.>
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: sgore on May 06, 2010, 10:11:24 pm
I feel hated by everyone at school.



Except this one girl who I know doesn't... well likely doesn't.


But all my other friends have either stated outright they don't like me, or they're acting different, like they don't want me around, and are just putting up with me.


This has only started since monday.


Doctor Zoviet, in situations like this, I somewhat recommend the direct approach. Seriously. I'm not saying run up to the nearest person you see and ask "Why don't you like me all of the sudden?" but if, while in conversation, you can bring up with someone who may know what's going on something along the lines of "Hey, is it just me or have people been a bit hostile around me lately?" it may help you figure out what's going on. Half the reason things like this go on longer than a day or so is because of a lack of communication. At least once you get to the bottom of things, what the nature of all of this is, you'll have a better idea or what you're dealing with.
I hope that helps. Update on how it works out!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on May 06, 2010, 10:45:57 pm
It isn't. I've tried it.

It is. I've tried it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Detoxicated on May 07, 2010, 02:43:22 am
Alternatively you could ruin their lives by pouring destructive substances into their food
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on May 07, 2010, 05:13:29 am
Oh and she is a nymphomaniac. >.>

If this really were true she would be looking for a way to feed her addiction and if she can't actually get this other guy you will be 1st in line.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on May 07, 2010, 06:12:03 am
I get that paranoia feeling all the time that everyone secretly hates me.

and can read my mind. and there are cameras in my eyes and people are watching through them, seeing what I see.

seriously.

I get that too from time to time.  When I do, I just yell in my mind for them to piss off and then picture a brick wall.

That'll show them.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Eagle on May 07, 2010, 05:00:24 pm
On a related note

I started hanging out at a radio station and met this hot girl. She is almost like a female version of me. We think alike and all that ****.

Sounds great, right?
Wrong.

Turns out she likes another guy who is the boy-toy of another chick. And I have like, no chance at all.

Oh and she is a nymphomaniac. >.>
Ew, you're like 15, what is it with Americans and maturing too soon.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on May 07, 2010, 05:03:25 pm
Badger aren't you like, half-girl?

Or was that someone else?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Celdur on May 07, 2010, 05:12:17 pm
It isn't. I've tried it.

It is. I've tried it.

jup
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on May 07, 2010, 08:36:32 pm

Ew, you're like 15, what is it with Americans and maturing too soon.

Here in the country called America, once you hit 13 you spend all your days trying to get laid until you're 50.  Some people don't even stop there.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on May 07, 2010, 08:58:22 pm
Ew, you're like 15, what is it with Americans and maturing too soon.

They don't mature. They have sex.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 07, 2010, 09:00:29 pm
With your mother.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on May 08, 2010, 03:43:48 am
Ew, you're like 15, what is it with Americans and maturing too soon.

With your mother.

Your argument is invalid.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 08, 2010, 03:54:41 am
Ew, you're like 15, what is it with Americans and maturing too soon.

With your mother.

Your argument is invalid.

My face has an overwhelming urge to palm.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 08, 2010, 11:08:45 am
I'm Canadian >>;
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 08, 2010, 12:42:22 pm
I'm Canadian >>;
SHUN! SHUN! SHUN!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on May 08, 2010, 08:21:57 pm
I'm Canadian >>;

Your point?  The words are pretty much synonymous except for the silent eh.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 09, 2010, 02:45:01 am
I'm Canadian >>;

I was talking to dnd.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on May 09, 2010, 03:13:12 am
I think Doctor Zoviet was responding to this:
Ew, you're like 15, what is it with Americans and maturing too soon.

With your mother.

Your argument is invalid.

Dndfreak used DoctorZ's comment as proof that Americans do not, in fact, mature too soon. To this Doctor Zoviet responds that he is not American, he is Canadian. And then dndfreak says that Americans and Canadians are pretty much the same thing.

But do correct me if I'm wrong!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 09, 2010, 03:37:02 am
Oh, whoops. I appear to be the fool here. D:
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 09, 2010, 07:29:48 am
We are on the same continent.

Which means... *Continental nekkid hugs*
The BEST KIND of hugs.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on May 09, 2010, 08:38:14 am
[obligatoryemomoment]Well, my nets down. So much for the sad facimile of reality that was my social life.[/obligatoryemomoment]
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 09, 2010, 10:16:53 am
We are on the same continent.

Which means... *Continental nekkid hugs*
The BEST KIND of hugs.
Oh dear god I'm being hugged nakedly. D:


By HEEM D:
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on May 09, 2010, 11:35:15 am
Beat him with a stick! Its the only way he'll learn.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 09, 2010, 11:48:53 am
I also ate all the ****** in my apartment complex.

****** is delicious.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 09, 2010, 11:52:08 am
Yes, vagina IS delicious.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 09, 2010, 11:54:15 am
Hey guys, what's going on in here?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 09, 2010, 11:54:59 am
Um. Yes, but apparently the forum censor also censors a certain... performance enhancer, I guess you would call it?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 09, 2010, 12:01:57 pm
Okay, 1. How do you know the sweet sweet taste of vagina?


2. What ARE you talking about? :U
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 09, 2010, 12:05:41 pm
End this discussion before the M arrives.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 09, 2010, 12:12:47 pm
Um. I'm not talking about vagina, I'm talking about a medicine that gives you erections. A pill.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on May 09, 2010, 12:24:45 pm
Tylenol?

I didn't know it did that!

*rushes off to raid medicine cabinet*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 09, 2010, 12:31:35 pm
It starts with a V. Second letter: I.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on May 09, 2010, 12:34:31 pm
Vivactil?

\:D
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 09, 2010, 12:46:30 pm
I know!


Erectasol.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on May 09, 2010, 03:28:38 pm
I'm Canadian >>;
SHUN! SHUN! SHUN!

Hah! That's fantastic! :D

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i177/PatMan33/Other Crap/RysworldWin.png) (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=12092.msg787946#msg787946)

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Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 09, 2010, 03:44:22 pm
Thank you! This is great.

Now to get one from everyone else. Which will take approximately... 1083 years. Give or take.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on May 09, 2010, 03:44:42 pm
Six letters... starts with a V, then has an I...
I KNOW! It's RIBOFLAVIN!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 09, 2010, 04:27:09 pm
It's... VI...VII..


VIGANA
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Veraal on May 09, 2010, 04:33:29 pm
Vitamin C?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on May 09, 2010, 04:35:00 pm
Awesome, let's play hangman!

V I _ _ _ _
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Veraal on May 09, 2010, 04:36:06 pm
Viafghanistan.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on May 09, 2010, 04:49:15 pm
Sad fact: 4 out of 5 people on the internet can't count.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 09, 2010, 05:27:13 pm
I KNOW


He ate HIMSELF
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 09, 2010, 05:49:00 pm
Oi!

Personal Problems or GTFO.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 09, 2010, 05:50:14 pm
This girl I really like gets angry at me every weekend, and if not then then soon thereafter.


The most I've gone has been 2 weeks. D:
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 09, 2010, 05:52:39 pm
*slams head into wall*

I owe my father 6,000 dollars to finish paying off my car



Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 09, 2010, 05:55:00 pm
That's more like it >_>

This girl I really like gets angry at me every weekend, and if not then then soon thereafter.


The most I've gone has been 2 weeks. D:

Maybe she has a menstrual cycle that's twice (or maybe four times) as fast as normal?

*slams head into wall*

I owe my father 6,000 dollars to finish paying off my car

Do you have a job?

Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cyst on May 09, 2010, 05:55:57 pm
*Rysworld win*

You see my problem?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 09, 2010, 06:09:00 pm
Do you have a job?


yea but I don't know where I'm going to get the cash for it I barely have enough money to pay my father for my half of the bills
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on May 09, 2010, 07:04:15 pm
Why didn't you buy a cheaper car..?

There are many, many cars you could've bought for under 2000$, 6000+$ Seems absurd.

Seems like this is a good lesson in debt management. You will pay the car off eventually im sure, but not for a while, and you will see how much it sucks to owe money because of all the things you cant buy.

Or you could tell your dad to piss off.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on May 09, 2010, 08:16:23 pm
*Backs away slowly*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on May 09, 2010, 10:48:11 pm
I know!


Erectasol.

Someone seriously needs to make this.  Just sayin'.

@kaizer lulz.  Is he putting a date on payments or just saying you owe him?  Either way, time to buy a fake mustache for $2.99.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on May 09, 2010, 11:25:12 pm
Try using a small logbook or put notes (with alarms) on your cellphone. I do the latter to hammer important tasks (which I usually make the mistake of procrastinating to) deep into my head.

Also, make a comprehensive calculation of your total expenditure (especially your debts) for an entire month. Then find out your total monthly income. Now, calculate how much money will be left after all your debts are paid for the month. Anything that's left after that you can then allocate to wants, investments and savings.

Whenever you get your salary, always make debt payment the number one priority. Separate your debt money from the rest of your funds as soon as possible, as this helps fight against (or at least delay) sporadic urges to spend. Most important of all, when paying loans, pay beyond the minimum and make no delays. This is how some of my family made their names, aside from making only as much loans as absolutely necessary, in the first place.

As for fixing the current situation, the only advice I could give you is to employ the above strategy (if you haven't already) and up it to eleven. If the people and circumstances are reasonable (or at least somewhat), then excellent. If not, that's gonna be a problem.

In any case, good luck with that issue.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on May 10, 2010, 05:54:03 am
Yeah the only debt I plan on having in my life is if and when I decide to buy a house. Pay that debt off asap and be free.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 10, 2010, 12:05:02 pm
Why didn't you buy a cheaper car..?

There are many, many cars you could've bought for under 2000$, 6000+$ Seems absurd.

Seems like this is a good lesson in debt management. You will pay the car off eventually im sure, but not for a while, and you will see how much it sucks to owe money because of all the things you cant buy.

Or you could tell your dad to piss off.


the car was my fathers he is fronting 8,000 for the car and my mother was supposed to pay 6,000 but yet again she dicked out and decided to not help me so my father dumped the other half on me to pay off
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Eagle on May 10, 2010, 03:49:18 pm
I'm Canadian >>;
SHUN! SHUN! SHUN!
-Ryswin-
Dear god, hell if freezing over and I forgot to put on the oven
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on May 10, 2010, 06:33:05 pm
the car was my fathers he is fronting 8,000 for the car and my mother was supposed to pay 6,000 but yet again she dicked out and decided to not help me so my father dumped the other half on me to pay off

That does sound pretty nasty. At least that's one thing you don't have to owe, eh?

There's little worse than having a debt of conscience to someone that one is not in a good relation with.

Well, here's hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on May 16, 2010, 06:03:27 am
Well, it is your car. Yeah it sucks that they were suppose to pay for it and didn't but maybe your father has his own financial trouble and can't do it. Not every kid gets a free car. If you can't pay for it then you might consider selling it and getting something cheaper or going without. The upside to this is if you pay for it, then they can't ever take it away. If you pay for it, make sure the title is in YOUR name not theirs. That's important.

Have you tried talking to your mom about it?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on May 25, 2010, 03:21:03 pm
Well that was an eventful weekend. Sigh. I hate LBD.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 25, 2010, 03:33:46 pm
I may be yelled at for this, but what is the LBD?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 25, 2010, 03:42:05 pm
La Bleu Dada
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on May 25, 2010, 03:42:52 pm
Little black dress?

If so, that's weird, I was having a conversation about that very thing last night at the bar. *shrug*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on May 25, 2010, 05:25:15 pm
Lush's Bicycle of Death?

The Last Big Dance?

LongBoard Dudes?

Losers Begging for Dough?

Lincoln Beard Derby?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 25, 2010, 05:30:45 pm
Lesbian/Bisexual Dentistry!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 25, 2010, 05:42:17 pm
Lady B's Deathmatch?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 25, 2010, 05:47:58 pm
Lesbian/Bisexual Dentistry!
I lol'd.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on May 25, 2010, 06:00:18 pm
Light Beer Drinkers
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on May 25, 2010, 06:32:46 pm
Laser Bear Drivers
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunner on May 25, 2010, 06:38:07 pm
Lethargic Brain Drillers?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 25, 2010, 06:38:54 pm
Lusty Bee Dander
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 25, 2010, 07:03:51 pm
get back on topic people.....


anyways my father wants me dead.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: sgore on May 25, 2010, 07:07:15 pm
Dead? That sounds a bit extreme. How so, Kaizer?

Also, Lush City is clearly refering to Larry Beale Day.
I think we can all agree, Larry Beale Day was a terrible idea.
He was only in like 12 episodes of Even Stevens.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Ultramarine on May 25, 2010, 07:26:48 pm

anyways my father wants me dead.

What did you do to warrant such a threat? O_o
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on May 25, 2010, 10:48:08 pm
Yeah, that seems very extreme, especially if you meant it literally.  :-\

Does it have something to do with debts, perhaps?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 26, 2010, 04:15:40 am
I doubt there's anything serious implied here. Kaizer is just a teenager.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on May 26, 2010, 11:54:44 am
hey krakow im 18 that means I'm a man now, I got the beard and everything to prove it
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on May 26, 2010, 12:43:28 pm
hey krakow im 18 that means I'm a man now, I got the peach fuzz and everything to prove it
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on May 26, 2010, 03:59:03 pm
Lesbian Bed Death.


It's when you stop being in a relationship and start becoming BFFs with benefits.


And you'd be surprised, I've seen dudes with fuller beards than my father's in High School.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 26, 2010, 04:00:27 pm
I've heard of Lesbian Bed Death.

I thought it was when two women married or had a serious relationship, and since there is no male pressuring for sex, there is no sex?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on May 26, 2010, 04:02:26 pm
Something like that, for me it's more like the relationship is regressing back into the Friend Zone. Which as I've stated beforehand, sucks.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 26, 2010, 04:03:45 pm
Do you have any idea what you could do to fix it?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 26, 2010, 04:41:20 pm
Video tape it and release it on the internet!


No but, stupid question, have you tried taking the intiative?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on May 26, 2010, 05:02:00 pm
Hey guys have any of yo--

Quote
Lesbian Bed Death.

 :o

*Backs away slowly*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on May 26, 2010, 05:36:20 pm
Hey guys have any of yo--

Quote
Lesbian Bed Death.

 :o

*Backs away slowly*
What?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 26, 2010, 05:44:31 pm
hey krakow im 18 that means I'm a man now, I got the beard and everything to prove it

Eight-TEEN.

So whats this about your father?  Did you bring shame on your house by marrying an infidel?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gungnir on May 26, 2010, 06:50:55 pm
I had a bar mitzvah! Me is man!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 26, 2010, 06:56:48 pm
Hava nagila
Hava nagila
Hava nagila v'nismecha! Oy!

Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on May 26, 2010, 07:21:56 pm
I'm a man

Punch!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on May 27, 2010, 08:11:32 am
Well, Lush, I don't have much experience in relationships, let alone lesbian ones, but two options present themselves, based on where I get my knowledge from:

1) (The Agony Aunt solution) Talk to your friend, explain to her where you want the relationship to go. Communication is the key to all relationships.

2) (Gentlemen's Interest Videos Found On The Internet solution) Get some toys for the bedroom. That should spice things up.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 27, 2010, 10:10:21 am
Hey guys have any of yo--

Quote
Lesbian Bed Death.

 :o

*Backs away slowly*

My sentiments exactly.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on May 27, 2010, 01:47:36 pm
Currently (and for the past few days) I've been feeling nothing. Everyone is better off than me (and I'm definite, not just being angsty) and I've started to feel kinda empty inside. Not necessarily depressed, just... grey. All my motivation is gone, and I need motivation to do things to make myself happy.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on May 27, 2010, 01:53:06 pm
Yeah Tes, that's what my Deplin™ is for.

"Deplin Brand Anti-Depressents, the other little blue happiness pill!"
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on May 27, 2010, 01:55:24 pm
You guys are depressing!

 BOOOO
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on May 27, 2010, 01:56:43 pm
You should have some Deplin™.

(Seriously, this stuff kicks ass. [realatively speaking, that is.])
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on May 27, 2010, 02:13:18 pm
>>

So uh.


...


..


I got nothing.


I just want to belong D:
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on May 27, 2010, 02:28:59 pm
Yeah Tes, that's what my Deplin™ is for.

"Deplin Brand Anti-Depressents, the other little blue happiness pill!"

Thanks. Now I feel much better.

Please don't ever speak to me again. D:
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on May 27, 2010, 07:06:21 pm
Glad to have helped.  ;D
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Detoxicated on May 28, 2010, 03:51:31 am
Lush are you oblivious to the fact that you're just annoying with your little remarks?

Tesla in my opinion you should take it to a person you know and trust alot, speak to that person about your problems and you will see it is at most in your head. People have troubles and such all the time but they don't show it to the outside world.

If that does not work for some reason or another you should check and see what exactly is the source for your deep feelings, where did they come from, when did you feel them the first time etc. If that doesn't help you can pm me about it maybe have a little conversation over everything...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on June 10, 2010, 05:18:26 pm
Lately I've been having such an identity crisis it's not even funny. I used to be the "smart one" but, after a recent major test I wasn't really motivated to study for, and got just slightly above average grades in, I've basically lost that. I don't know how to define myself. Argh...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on June 10, 2010, 05:21:50 pm
Ganjachu?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on June 10, 2010, 05:25:13 pm
Stop. I don't know what that it and now I actually feel worse.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunner on June 10, 2010, 05:28:54 pm
Lately I've been having such an identity crisis it's not even funny. I used to be the "smart one" but, after a recent major test I wasn't really motivated to study for, and got just slightly above average grades in, I've basically lost that. I don't know how to define myself. Argh...
Hey, I feel the same way.
...this isn't all that cool.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on June 10, 2010, 05:34:53 pm
You think I'm trying to be cool? O.o
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunner on June 10, 2010, 05:55:40 pm
No, I mean finding someone who feels the same way isn't that cool. :P
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on June 10, 2010, 06:03:20 pm
Guys, welcome to my world. :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on June 10, 2010, 06:32:49 pm
Lately I've been having such an identity crisis it's not even funny. I used to be the "smart one" but, after a recent major test I wasn't really motivated to study for, and got just slightly above average grades in, I've basically lost that. I don't know how to define myself. Argh...

There is a hell of a lot more to being smart then school grades. A lot more.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on June 10, 2010, 06:34:30 pm
Yeah, sometimes you have to outsmart the cops and **** like that.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on June 10, 2010, 07:08:33 pm
Gorman - Yeah. My friends don't know this.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on June 10, 2010, 07:20:45 pm
and you do know it, see you are so much smarter than they are they can't even begin to comprehend it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on June 10, 2010, 07:32:29 pm
I got into Spanish Four without knowing a lick of the language. I probably spent more effort cheating than what I would have done actually studying.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on June 10, 2010, 08:21:26 pm
Tesla, tying your self worth to grades is just going to be a letdown in the end anyway.  There will always be someone smarter, and what happens when you finish school and run out of test scores?

And Lush, cheating is bad, mkay?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on June 10, 2010, 11:30:41 pm
Yeah, personally I think it's a matter of putting too much weight on one aspect of your life. This is why people always say you should prioritise things, set the family first and stuff like that. If you define yourself too much by just one aspect of your life, don't be surprised when your whole world seems to fall apart when you fail at that one aspect. Now, what you can do is either find meaning in other things than grades, or just work harder the next time. Prove everyone that you really are good enough to get good grades. So you didn't do as well as you wanted to in a recent test? That's just one test, however major it is supposed be. You've done well before and who's to say you can't do that again?

Doing well at school isn't all about being smart, anyway. You have to do some hard work, too. If you performed below your standards, you shouldn't think you're suddenly much less smart for it. Maybe you just didn't like the subject, maybe you slept really badly, maybe you just couldn't bother that time. There are a lot more explanations than you just being dumber than you used think. What you should do is find out where the problem is, whether it's your attitude or something else, and do your best to fix it. Or just find some way to cope with you not being as smart as you thought you were. But personally, I think the best way to do that is to prove your self doubts wrong.

You should, however, remember that most people really don't define you as much by your school grades as your personality and the things you do with them.

I think I'm allowed to say all this, because I get pretty good grades myself, but have had to cope with some disappointments in that area recently. Turns out I don't really have the energy to get perfect grades all the time, so my math grade dropped a bit, for example. But there are other school subjects and other things in life to concentrate on. At least I'll always have my art. And of course sometimes I have to go through some disappointments in that area, too, but that's just life. You just need to learn to deal with it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on June 11, 2010, 06:22:34 am
I've been there Tesla.  For a number of years, not only would I be extremely dissapointed in myself if I got anything less than an A, but my parents would be on my case about it as well.  Very stressful.  It's been only reacently now that I'm in university that I've come to see grades as the arbitrary thing that they are.  Frankly, they are a very, very poor reflection of your intelligence, because intelligence cannot be graded, nor summed up that easily.

For example, this year I had an advanced calculus class.  I hated it, and the prof was an incompetent moron who could barely speak english, but I learned it.  I knew what I needed to do, for all the many cases I would need.  However, I've never been very good at memorizing things, and that's what most of this course was.  Hundreds of different cases of dervitives, anti-derivitives, limits and all sorts of other unpleasent formulas, each which were only subtley different from each other, but if you used the wrong one in the wrong place, you were screwed.  And so, despite understanding the whole course, I got a C- in it just because I can't keep track of all the formulas.  If I had been given them, I'm certain I'd have aced it.

Long story short, what I'm saying is you don't need good grades to be the smart one.  There's a lot more to it than that.  There's knowing things, and then there's being able to think of things.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on June 11, 2010, 07:00:11 am
Tesla, I don't think you're old enough to have an indentity crisis, especially if you are using grades.

Your story reminds me of an episode of the Weekenders (that takes me back) when Trish got less than an A on her test, and all her friends were freaking out and trying to find a new identity for her. Then by the end of the episode, she realises that labels like the 'smart one' are not needed. And they aren't needed in real life, either. Unless you are a sociological labelling theorist, but that's a different matter entirely.

Honestly you, as you said, got 'slightly above average' for a test you weren't motivated for. That didn't sound like you failed.

And why weren't you motivated? And what subject was it for?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 11, 2010, 07:07:38 am
Pfff. You don't want to be the guy that gets the best grades. Sure, they seem relatively normal while still at school. But get to university and they are the guy/girl with a bad haircut that sits right at the front of the lecture theater, wears a beige fleece all year round and keeps their textbooks in a camping backpack.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on June 11, 2010, 05:03:18 pm
Now I feel much better. Thanks guys. :D

Besides... I ****in' ace standardized tests...

I'd like to see Conor Howard getting 99 in Abstract Reasoning AND Spelling, that smug ****...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on June 12, 2010, 05:59:00 pm
My father got drunk (and a little high) and decided to cut down a small tree with our saws-all. to cut the tree he had to climb 20 ft up (about 2 stories) his ladder, unfortunately when he finished cutting it down the tree sprung back and he fell off the ladder which was on the tree, he fell and landed on top of some logs and sliced his arm open with the saws-all, this happened friday. he was med evac'd by chopper to boston because of severe injuries. he has 3 fractured ribs, a fractured spinal column, fractured his pelvis, and banged up his neck pretty bad, he also cant move his right arm fully and their doing x-rays to see just what could be torn in the shoulder.

I actually just got back, I've been awake, at the side of his bed at the hospital since friday.



I feel like crap, the only thing keeping me awake now is mt dew and the fact that i'm worried about him
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: sgore on June 12, 2010, 06:50:12 pm
Wow, Kaizer, I'm sorry. That's just rough beyond belief. I sincerely hope things work out okay, but in the meantime, you do need sleep. Believe me, neglecting your own health because you're worried about the health of someone else is exactly the opposite of what you want to be doing right now. I understand what it's like to not be able to stop being worried for a family member in the hospital, and I know this advice may seem cliched, but you honestly will be much better able to help him if you remember to take care of yourself in the meantime.
(Also it appears Boston has some very good doctors from my family's experience with the area)
Again I really hope everything works out.
Remember you can always come on here for support.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on June 12, 2010, 09:20:38 pm
Indeed. Keeping yourself in top shape will help you greatly at this moment in time. It could mean the difference between being able to perform care properly and getting hospitalized due to exhaustion, which is not that unlikely.

Likewise I also hope everything works out.

How are his fractures doing, especially the one in his pelvis and spine?

Here's hoping the cord wasn't strained too much in the impact.

Wish you all the luck, Kaizer.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on June 14, 2010, 06:29:07 am
As stated before me, I'm sorry to hear about that Kaizer.  I hope that things turn out alright.  Best of luck to you and your father.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on June 14, 2010, 08:20:37 am
You will burn out on caffiene eventually.
Don't be afraid to let yourself sleep.
If anything comes up, they will wake you up with the phone.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on June 14, 2010, 01:23:50 pm
My father got drunk (and a little high) and decided to cut down a small tree with our saws-all. to cut the tree he had to climb 20 ft up (about 2 stories) his ladder, unfortunately when he finished cutting it down the tree sprung back and he fell off the ladder which was on the tree, he fell and landed on top of some logs and sliced his arm open with the saws-all, this happened friday. he was med evac'd by chopper to boston because of severe injuries. he has 3 fractured ribs, a fractured spinal column, fractured his pelvis, and banged up his neck pretty bad, he also cant move his right arm fully and their doing x-rays to see just what could be torn in the shoulder.

I actually just got back, I've been awake, at the side of his bed at the hospital since friday.

I feel like crap, the only thing keeping me awake now is mt dew and the fact that i'm worried about him

So sorry to hear this, as if you weren't under enough pressure. I hope (though I doubt) that he will learn something from this experience and stop the drinking. I hope that you will learn from this about how bad choices can backfire and harm you. It's really tragic. I'm glad that you weren't physically hurt by his actions. Adults of all ages make bad choices and though you feel bad for him, please remember that he did this to himself. Take care of yourself. Sleep and get some rest. You'll need it because he's going to need your help later. Being a caregiver, which you now will be come, will be hard.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on June 15, 2010, 02:58:55 am
You're going to have to use your strength to take care of two (you and your father) for a while. When the opportunity arises, try checking your home for things that might hinder easy and safe movement (appliances, furniture and the like) just to be safe when your father switches to being an out-patient. Some seemingly benign items can cause secondary accidents if not safely contained prior to lifting people or assisting them in daily routines.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on August 30, 2010, 07:21:00 pm
first day of being a senior tomorrow, went to check my schedule....


study
study
study
finite trig
lunch
study
physics




so apparently they screwed my schedule up so royally that all my computer tech classes are gone....
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on August 31, 2010, 09:40:35 am
I assume you have all your Language, Mathematics and Art credits?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 03, 2010, 09:16:51 am
They did the came thing to me freshman year lol, those classes have REALLY limited space.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on September 03, 2010, 11:54:02 am
the class can fit like 20 students but they only let like 5-10 in


pretty lame
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 03, 2010, 02:03:06 pm
Well I know most all of them have prerequisites, you have to spread 'em out over the four years or it's literally impossible to do 'em all.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on September 04, 2010, 05:07:03 am
the class can fit like 20 students but they only let like 5-10 in

Wouldn't that make it harder on their (the administration's) part? Not to mention twenty is a pretty decent number for a class.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 04, 2010, 01:36:28 pm
How does having less kids make it harder?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on September 04, 2010, 02:07:42 pm
Need more teachers and classrooms.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 04, 2010, 05:04:10 pm
This school has too many TEACHERS and CALSSROOMS
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on September 04, 2010, 05:30:18 pm
Er? Well, yeah? Teachers are expensive if you can make do with half of them? Plus the extra classrooms you need would mean a more expensive building/renovation.

Though if you can afford it I guess they're good. As long as the situation we're talking about doesn't come about.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 05, 2010, 01:26:02 am
Well remember that these are tech classes, which means that the school needs a few hundred dollars in licensing fees per student for all the different programs they'll need to use.  The more students pay their dues, the more students can fit in classes like these.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on September 05, 2010, 09:22:33 pm
Sorry if this is written like ****, I just want to get it out there.

Well, I have been friends with a girl for about two years now, and I really like her. So, last night, the night I was thinking of telling her, she tells me that she likes one of my good friends. I don't want to ruin her possibility of a relationship with my friend, so I just kept quiet. If i really cared about her, I would try to keep her happy, right? and if she wants to be with my friend, I'm going to let he do what she wants. I just wish I could let her know, but I don't want to ruin our friendship by letting her I know I like her when she doesn't feel the same way.

I don't know if I feel worse for knowing she doesn't care about me, or worse for even thinking I had a chance. I've just been feeling like **** about this all day.

I know chances are, I'm going to look at this later and regret posting it. I know none of you care about any of this, it just feels better to get it out there.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 05, 2010, 09:24:58 pm
Wowo, there're like twenty minimum that could be made out of our lives. My advice, go for it, if your really friends the awkward phase will pass. Take it from someone who knows, if you let this simmer it's only going to boil. Let the pressure leak out slowly over time. Either you'll get over her, or she''l get into you(no pun intended)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on September 05, 2010, 09:50:42 pm
Wait, if she's getting into him...


...  :o
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 05, 2010, 09:51:38 pm
That's the miracle of science.  You should know, you're a doctor.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 05, 2010, 09:58:14 pm
We are all doctors here, Mr. Jones.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on September 05, 2010, 11:07:20 pm
The girl is probably a succubus anyway. Right?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on September 06, 2010, 08:39:23 am
Sorry if this is written like ****, I just want to get it out there.

Well, I have been friends with a girl for about two years now, and I really like her. So, last night, the night I was thinking of telling her, she tells me that she likes one of my good friends. I don't want to ruin her possibility of a relationship with my friend, so I just kept quiet. If i really cared about her, I would try to keep her happy, right? and if she wants to be with my friend, I'm going to let he do what she wants. I just wish I could let her know, but I don't want to ruin our friendship by letting her I know I like her when she doesn't feel the same way.

I don't know if I feel worse for knowing she doesn't care about me, or worse for even thinking I had a chance. I've just been feeling like **** about this all day.

I know chances are, I'm going to look at this later and regret posting it. I know none of you care about any of this, it just feels better to get it out there.

Yeah that's a tough spot, but I will say this always attempting to be the nice guy will not always work. If you sit around liking a chick and then she fawns over or even ends up dating your friend then you will sit around in pain having to watch them...subconsciously you may end up hating you're friend for it.

Here's the deal, if you're friend has openly expressed his feelings for her then..sorry to say you're stuck, there's nothing you can do without stepping on his toes. But it seems to me she likes him and he is none the wiser. In that case you can let her know how you feel, drop the whole..I want her to be happy thing. You're 16, shes not going to end up happily ever after  in princess pony land with your presumably 16, 17 year old friend. Even if she rejects you..it will hurt, but it will fade quicker then the sad feeling of never acting and wondering what if.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on September 06, 2010, 09:30:47 am
I'm on the page of telling her how you feel too many things get left unsaid and opportunities are missed. Maybe she likes you too and wanted you to get jealous by telling you she liked your friend. As long as she isn't dating your friend, it's all fair.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 06, 2010, 10:19:10 am
Even if she was dating your friend it would still be fair.

ALL's fair in love and war.

Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 06, 2010, 10:21:32 am
Are you okay LadyM?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gorman Conall on September 06, 2010, 10:30:46 am
Even if she was dating your friend it would still be fair.

ALL's fair in love and war.



You sound like a swell friend Sammy.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on September 06, 2010, 10:38:26 am
You should let her know, whilst it is still a good time to.
You may feel conflicted loyalty here, but relationships and love interests can be tricky things. If you don't at least make your feelings known, you will feel robbed of your chance and may grow to resent it on some level, driving you apart from your friend. Any friend worth having will get over any awkwardness this could cause, and with your feelings known, she is less likely to accidentally sting you feelings by unknowingly putting her foot into her mouth. Being with someone is kind of a complete deal, and one of the things you need is some trust. Hell, not even 'together' with someone, but as friends. Some things need to be spoken honestly, if only to make sure all the cards are on the table, and you don't end up martyring yourself where it isn't necessary.

Friends worth having don't let small hiccups like this have any lasting effect. If something lastingly bad happens as a result of making your feelings known? Well, it only really speaks of them, not you. I say go for it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 06, 2010, 11:40:52 am
Even if she was dating your friend it would still be fair.

ALL's fair in love and war.



You sound like a swell friend Sammy.

I don't find any of my friend's girlfriends attractive.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on September 06, 2010, 02:10:33 pm
Thanks, I guess I've just been trying to get myself down. You're right, I shouldn't give up so easily. I'm just hesitant to tell her, I mean she told me, to my face, that she liked my friend.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on September 06, 2010, 03:11:08 pm
She's teasing you but didn't want to wiggle her butt?


Note: Don't listen to a word I say, the rest of them are good.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on September 06, 2010, 05:03:00 pm
I had a sort of similar thing happen to me not quiet the same but once involving a girl I liked and I never told her and it was the stupidest mistake I ever made. If your mate has yet to express feeling for her then she is "fair game" for lack of a better term. Good luck.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 06, 2010, 05:21:35 pm
Hope to see how it goes ^_^
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on September 06, 2010, 05:23:31 pm
I hope to see it go well, too.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: TheManWithNoName on September 06, 2010, 06:00:13 pm
Well this is personal but I was born without a name :'(...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Clarke on September 06, 2010, 06:09:32 pm
Sucks to be you, Spacey.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Putspooza on September 07, 2010, 10:53:10 am
A young man stands in a forum. It just so happens that today, the 7th of September, is this young man's registration day. Though it was about 19 hours ago he was given an account, it is only now he will be given a name!

What will the name of this young man be?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 07, 2010, 11:00:47 am
*enters "a tool"*

Now, are they a boy or a girl?

...

A giiiirrrlll?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 07, 2010, 11:12:08 am
How about Blank? It's forumy enough. We could get the guy who did Flisch and Tesla's Avatrs to do so.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on September 07, 2010, 11:32:45 am
How about Blank? It's forumy enough. We could get the guy who did Flisch and Tesla's Avatrs to do so.

You mean me? O.o
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 07, 2010, 11:36:00 am
Yeah! And it'd even even ou your name confusion.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 07, 2010, 11:52:20 am
Blackberry herpy derpy derp.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Eagle on September 07, 2010, 11:54:40 am
Yeah! And it'd even even ou your name confusion.
Stop typing until you have better resources.



You must build additional pylons
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 07, 2010, 12:10:29 pm
Actualy, ou is a bit of in-slang, not a typo. Sorry about that :*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 07, 2010, 12:16:53 pm
Even even that is becoming hard to believe.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 07, 2010, 12:23:17 pm
OU I picked it up during my breif, and scary, affair with the hardcore Pokemon Scene; had to get out, I had enough numbers to file. :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on September 07, 2010, 12:31:22 pm
Yeah! And it'd even even ou your name confusion.

You mean the confusion that ended like 2 weeks ago?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on September 07, 2010, 12:31:46 pm
hardcore Pokemon Scene

The less I know about this the better.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 07, 2010, 12:53:20 pm
Well it certainly lead to some personal problems. Let's keep that one in the closet.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on September 07, 2010, 01:01:53 pm
How about Blank? It's forumy enough. We could get the guy who did Flisch and Tesla's Avatrs to do so.

You mean me? O.o
No, he means me, duh.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on September 07, 2010, 01:03:15 pm
hardcore Pokemon Scene

Smoking Oddish leaves and doing lines of ground up Geodudes...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on September 07, 2010, 04:42:28 pm
Hot Skitty on Wailord action. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HotSkittyOnWailordAction)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on September 08, 2010, 09:33:34 am
Route 34. Huh, I never notice that before.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: dndfreak on September 09, 2010, 12:52:01 pm
I was free from Tropes, and then you had to refer to another one.  Damn you Grazony!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on September 14, 2010, 01:50:40 pm
No, no, I can afford to waste an entire afternoon on TVTropes. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MajorInjuryUnderreaction)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 14, 2010, 02:09:22 pm
Oh that's right, it's an election day where you live, right?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on September 16, 2010, 03:44:40 pm
Now I have a problem. I took a look at my personality and realized:

I care more about the lives of five slugs than I do about the entire human population of the United States, myself included. I have a list of all the groups I am utterly annoyed with:

-Extremists
-Conservatives (social, not fiscal)
-Jocks
-Wannabe Gangsters
-Mainstream Musicians
-Foul-mouthed, hormone-driven teenagers
-Evangelists
-Racists
-Misogynists


From whence flows the fount of my displeasure? Most of these dislikes are pretty unfounded. What's wrong with me?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on September 16, 2010, 03:48:15 pm
*Checks Octagon's profile*

Gender:  Male
Age: 14

I may just have a hunch...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 16, 2010, 03:53:23 pm
In two years you'll be a foul-mouthed, hormone-driven wannabe something listening to mainstream music.

You'll probably still hate fundies and racists, you just won't care as much or think its edgy to announce it to everyone.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on September 16, 2010, 04:02:39 pm
Lies!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 16, 2010, 04:07:35 pm
Hey, I've got five years more experience than you of being a teenager. Admittedly I was never as wangsty as you.  :P
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on September 16, 2010, 04:08:38 pm
W...

Wangsty?

Angsty about his penis size?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kenotai on September 16, 2010, 04:11:41 pm
Wangst (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wangst)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 16, 2010, 04:13:18 pm
Thank you Kenotai. I was just about to post that myself.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on September 16, 2010, 04:14:29 pm
EDIT: Ninja'd
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on September 16, 2010, 04:18:08 pm
You'll probably still hate fundies and racists, you just won't care as much
The irony is I care more now then I did as a 14 year old ._.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 16, 2010, 04:23:44 pm
Did you know you were... the way you are, when you were 14? >_________________________>
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on September 16, 2010, 04:24:56 pm
Hey guys, what's going on in here?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 16, 2010, 04:26:44 pm
Prejudice.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on September 16, 2010, 04:27:41 pm
Can I join in?  :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Person21 on September 16, 2010, 04:38:19 pm
We don't like your type joining in.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on September 16, 2010, 04:39:39 pm
We can start a game of our own, Brandon.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on September 16, 2010, 04:42:04 pm
Yay! I love games. Will it be like football?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on September 16, 2010, 04:42:40 pm
EDIT: Ninja'd by Person21.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Person21 on September 16, 2010, 04:44:21 pm
And Pat and Brandon by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on September 16, 2010, 04:47:04 pm
Yay! I love games. Will it be like football?

Oh yeah! Your feet, my balls.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on September 16, 2010, 04:47:54 pm
Awesome! You can be the tight end. I'll be the wide receiver.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on September 16, 2010, 04:49:03 pm
Did you know you were... the way you are, when you were 14? >_________________________>
Yes.



Quote from: Patman and Brandon
Bluh Bluh Gay Jokes


:I
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Person21 on September 16, 2010, 04:54:02 pm
Gay jokes involving sports are the best kind, so stop complaining. :P
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on September 16, 2010, 04:55:11 pm
Must... not... say... it...







O RLY?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on September 16, 2010, 05:03:10 pm
Awesome! You can be the tight end. I'll be the wide receiver.

I'm Ben Roethlisberger to your resisting teenage girl! :D
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on September 16, 2010, 07:49:37 pm
Ah my eyes if I was wearing goggles I'm sure they would be doing nothing.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 16, 2010, 08:16:54 pm
A swear I found Brandon as a east european from his images.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 17, 2010, 03:43:36 am
Ok, we've had our fun. Back to personal problems please.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on September 17, 2010, 10:26:58 am
EDIT: Ninja'd by Person21.

You can delete your posts. And there's no edit stamp on that post, so unless you edited it like 3 seconds after posting (which is still pretty dumb) then it's not an edit.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Person21 on September 17, 2010, 10:34:32 am
But...but... if he deleted his useless post, how would he get his post count bigger? D:
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on September 17, 2010, 03:00:34 pm
Person has a point.

(+1)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on September 27, 2010, 11:54:22 am
About that relationship problem I had a while ago, I ****ed up, didn't work out.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 27, 2010, 12:34:59 pm
Sorry brah. Details?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 27, 2010, 12:44:03 pm
Page 71.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 27, 2010, 12:49:48 pm
I meant what happened. I do pay attenion you know.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on September 27, 2010, 12:52:37 pm
Waited too long, was going to ask her out this week.

She started dating someone else yesterday.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Consideration on September 27, 2010, 12:55:15 pm
Someone's who is not the aforementioned friend?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on September 27, 2010, 01:07:55 pm
No its not the same friend.

Turns out my friend and her knew each other for a long time, and in the past she would ask him out, but he would reject her. She still kinda likes him, but she knows it wouldn't happen. So, learning this, I thought I would ask her out. I just got around to it too late. Now she's dating someone I don't even know.

I ****ing give up.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 27, 2010, 02:06:11 pm
Wow. Fearful symytry.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on September 27, 2010, 03:05:32 pm
What?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on September 27, 2010, 03:10:08 pm
I think it will be best if you just ignore lush.

If you're still torn up about this, I don't think I have any advice that will make you feel better.  I've been there before, when biding your time turns into missing your chance.  There's no telling what the outcome off her dating this guy will be, she might dump him.  And if not, as cliche as it is, you're young and there are other fish in the sea.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on September 27, 2010, 03:13:48 pm
I agree with the above. Inkling took the words right out of my mouth, and said it better than I would have.

EDIT: To clarify, I'm not saying to ignore Lush City. As a matter of fact, I am one of her allies (if there are even sides.) I will not attack on her behalf, but I will defend her. Why? Possibly due to my original assumption that I knew her, and because I was like that in real life once, and even here. In other words, Lush City is going to win someday. And you will all have looks of shock on your faces that I would be very satisfied to see.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on September 27, 2010, 03:59:46 pm
That's been how I've been looking at it. I guess there's nothing I can do than just hope things work out.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 27, 2010, 04:41:52 pm
Hush Ink.


She was in the exact same situation as you, however rather than push the envelope she flipped to someone else. Now, one rebond is just as good as another, but do you think you'll honestly work, or just be another of her settlements?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on September 27, 2010, 05:06:36 pm
Yeah well now you have learnt the lesson that biding your time is a terrible strategy. I learnt the same lesson once don't forget it and next time will be someone you will find don't forget to go for it take the plunge being rejected doesn't hurt as much as the feeling of a missed oppurtunity.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Skyward on September 27, 2010, 05:12:55 pm
don't forget to go for it take the plunge being rejected doesn't hurt as much as the feeling of a missed oppurtunity.

I agree with that fully. I realized I waited too long. If all went to plan I was going to tell her TODAY. But that didn't work out.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 27, 2010, 05:23:28 pm
You okay Cobra? That sentence seemed...off.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Putspooza on September 27, 2010, 05:32:04 pm
Looks fine to me. If only you had such devotion for sentence clarity for your own posts.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Consideration on September 29, 2010, 02:11:38 pm
Right, this is a lengthy one.

A friend of mine (and genuinely a friend of mine at that - read on!) is in a reasonably unhealthy relationship in an unhealthy environment. She, aged 20 though much younger in personality, lives with a gentleman whose wealth is acquired through rather dubious chemistry, aged 57. Now, disturbing as this is, I try not to judge - she is however completely financially dependent on him and dependent on him in an organisational sense as well, as her brain is a little addled - the problem is she is having an affair with a married-but-sometimes-divorced bloke at the same time (who is a total prick, but that's immaterial). Whilst this obviously endangers her single support if she's caught out, she is infatuated, but it is evident the bloke doesnt feel paticularaly bothered - she has gotten her hopes up (based on him leading her on) and is willingly throwing herself at him, and occasionally he responds with a pity-****.

My problem is that she won't hear of dropping the affair, or of seeking any sort of employment, council house or unemployment benefit, and pins all her hopes on a complete flight of fancy with aforesaid married bloke, whilst her domestic situation circles the plughole.

EDIT: Married bloke is no longer with wife, but flits between wife and two girlfriends AND my friend.

What advice can I give her?

Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on September 29, 2010, 04:04:42 pm
It sounds like she's rejected all your previous advice, I don't know how you can make her see the reality of how bad her situation is.  Is there some other person, maybe an auhority figure, that could talk sense into her?

Neither guy sounds like a good or healthy pairing for an emotionally immature 20 year old, but the second guy who is having flings with multiple women sounds like the worse. 

Then again,

a gentleman whose wealth is acquired through rather dubious chemistry...

...her brain is a little addled

If you're hinting at what I think you're hinting at, you need to get her out of that situation as soon as you can.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 29, 2010, 04:23:13 pm
Agreed, she's bouning between a Drug-dealing Sugardaddy and a sue with WAY to many women on his hands. Their is literally NO way this can work out alright.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on September 29, 2010, 04:40:20 pm
Good God Lush, that was pretty harsh.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 29, 2010, 05:14:48 pm
Not gonaa sugercoat it, her life's for ****ed uo than an HBO drama. She needs to get out stat before any permanent damage can be done.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Person21 on September 29, 2010, 05:29:23 pm
Lush, it's great that you're being helpful.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on September 29, 2010, 05:49:57 pm
I have agree being harsh may be the only way. She aint going to listen to reason neither guy is a good choice one cheats like it doesn't matter the other is engaging in illegal activites. A boot up the backside sounds a lot like what she needs. My own girlfriend has a friend who is completely infatuated with a guy who is juggling more girls than I have had hot dinners. It's hard enough telling her to leave this guy. You have the problem of trying to get her out of 2 bad situations. Part of me wants to say cut your loses on this girl.

In a less realistic way I'm temtped to say sick the cops on the "chemist" to cut that tie then wait for the other relationship to die (because you know it will). You can help her keep her life on track as best you can and try to help her see how close she is to screwing her self up royally hopefully she will have enough sense to try and help her self.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on September 29, 2010, 05:54:20 pm
Better yet, sic the cops on both of those guys and get the girl to therapy.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on September 29, 2010, 06:02:41 pm
Second one didn't do anything illegal...


But before we go further, what is your level of connection to this young lady? That of a concerned brother? A father figure? A lifelong freind? Maybe a former lover? All of these have impacts with how you should go about this.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cyst on September 29, 2010, 08:25:29 pm
HUGE PROBLEM

OFF-TOPIC TOPIC is LOCKED.
LORD HELP US ALL.

And right when I made an important discovery.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on September 29, 2010, 08:59:04 pm
GODDAMNIT KISHMOND
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Consideration on September 30, 2010, 01:58:54 am
She's an old friend from College who quit in my first year, but we stayed in touch - the relationship was romantic for her when we first met but I didn't reciprocate (a pattern emerges!).

In terms of authority figures, I know only of her mother, who lives very far away and they have a strained relationship at best. There are some mutual friends who she might listen to but they're less informed than me...

I've long since given up on getting her relationships sorted out - I just want her not to be homeless and destitute when it all inevitably collapses - and I don't live near enough to guarantee her a place to stay.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 02, 2010, 09:06:20 pm
Hi, I'm Dr.Octagonapus, and I'm here for 3 reasons.

1. I'm finding it harder than usual to understand constructive criticism. It used to be, I could understand what was wrong with what I was doing. Now that I have a rudimentary, survival-level sense of self-worth, however...

2. I have successfully convinced myself that I am insane.

3. .sdrawkcab stsop ym edam I fi esnes erom ekam dluow I ekil leef I
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on October 02, 2010, 09:12:53 pm
You're 14, correct? I know it's probably not going to do much, but don't worry. Pretty much all of us went through this.

Just do what you think is best (and stay safe) and in a couple years most of the things you're having trouble with will fall into place. Those early teenage years aren't exactly spectacular. :-\
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 02, 2010, 09:22:36 pm
Well, I asked this on the B12 forums, because hey, they're more apt to know this stuff, half of them are math, the other half is engineering, and the other other half likes blowing up stuff... There's a joke in there somewhere.


ANYWAY


I want to get into Engineering, as in a Doctorate.


Specifically Aerospace. I wanna send people to the stars. ;=;


BUT

BUTBUTBUT

No idea how. Well, I do know that there are two Universities near me that have Aerospace Engineering courses (York and Toronto), and I'm gonna start working with rocketry. But the preliminary stuff, man! The courses and knowledge that gets me INTO those universities! Math and Physics are obvious, but it's the small things. I REALLY wanna do this, guys. Seriously. Help?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on October 02, 2010, 09:27:47 pm
Step one is to get some smarts in you. Try reading some books.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on October 02, 2010, 09:42:36 pm
Get good grades and do very well on placement tests.  Go to college and enroll in engineering classes.

(Then get your butt handed to you and become a business major.)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: sgore on October 02, 2010, 10:02:41 pm
Hi, I'm Dr.Octagonapus, and I'm here for 3 reasons.

1. I'm finding it harder than usual to understand constructive criticism. It used to be, I could understand what was wrong with what I was doing. Now that I have a rudimentary, survival-level sense of self-worth, however...
Don't be so hard on yourself. The best you can do (the best anyone can do) is keep trying to understand whatever the issue is until you get it right. People know it's not as easy to change something as it is to ask someone to change it and if they're decent enough they'll be patient with you while you figure it out. I imagine you haven't intentionally mamed anyone lately, and you'd probably sincerely care if someone told you they were having a bad day. That alone skyrockets your worth as a person far beyond the level where constructive criticism should make you doubt it.

2. I have successfully convinced myself that I am insane.
Well, I can say from personal experience that's usually not the most comfortable feeling.
Try watching this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlVUXLBJg14
If afterwards you are left with any lingering questions as to what you have just witnessed, odds are you aren't insane.
If the video makes perfect sense to you, odds still are that you aren't insane.
I guess what I'm saying is, odds are despite feeling so at times (or even all the time) you really aren't ever without some level of sanity and you shouldn't drive yourself nuts constantly worrying that you're going to go crazy. Relax. Meditate if you have to. Just do something that you think that'll help get your thoughts in more order, but don't be so worried.

3. .sdrawkcab stsop ym edam I fi esnes erom ekam dluow I ekil leef I
Really? Because I
feel as if my posts would make
more sense as Haikus
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 02, 2010, 10:23:48 pm
What the heck did I just watch!?
Oh, good, my sanity's intact.

Anyway, being serious again, the rest of that was AMAZING advice.

But, haikus? Your mileage may vary on that one...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on October 03, 2010, 12:56:36 am
2. I have successfully convinced myself that I am insane.

What's with teenagers trying to be insane? Seriously, I did the same thing when I was younger, and I only realised a few years later how stupid it was. But back then, I thought it'd be cool if I had some weird mental condition that would explain everything that's wrong with my life. And I also thought it would be cool to be just bat**** crazy, because then I'd be somehow special, as if my mind was so interestingly different that no one could ever possibly hope to understand it. Anyway, I realised that convincing yourself that you're crazy is a completely horrible idea only after I had no friends left.

Of course, at that point I could've just put the blame on me being crazy and all, but I slowly realised that everyone has the same thoughts as me sometimes, and it was most likely the fact that I had convinced myself that I'm a crazy weirdo rather than me actually being a crazy weirdo, that drove my friends away. See, if you try to put a label on yourself, you'll probably start trying to fulfill that label whether it's actually true or not. Now, you don't actually want to be crazy, do you? Actual crazy people have real trouble functioning in the society and taking care of themselves, and you'll notice that people thinking you're crazy won't make you special or excuse you from all your flaws, it'll just make other people want to avoid you and your craziness.

Now, I don't know if any of this accurately describes you, because I'm just speaking from experience. But believe me, the odds are that you aren't at all as crazy as you think. As long as you don't start seeing or hearing things that aren't there, you should be fine. A lot of people have had and will have some of the same problems as you. Just because you have problems, it doesn't mean you're crazy. Most likely, it just means you're a teenager. In fact, I was exactly 14 when I started thinking there must be something wrong with me. But I got over it, and I think you will, too. Just don't let yourself wallow in self pity too long, and rather concentrate on what you can do about your problems. Or, just relax. Some things tend work themselves out.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on October 03, 2010, 04:51:38 am
How many people considered normal have achieved incredibly well in society? None. All the average and non-eccentric people get office jobs and drive Volvos until they're 50, where they then have a mid-life crisis and buy irrelevent **** to escape the bordem of everyday life. If they're lucky they become lawyers and be sort of wealthy, but that's about it.

All the most interesting, famous and filthy rich people are, to some capacity, crazy. Be it slightly eccentric, or massive levels of crazy. But all those people are aware that they're just crazy enough to do well,  but not insane to the point of blathering in the corner.

The moral of this lecture? Just chill out, dood. Just because you're slightly odd doesn't mean you're insane.

Trust me, once that ego kicks in you'll learn to stop sucking and learn to start being awesome.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: /lurk on October 03, 2010, 06:30:40 am
How many people considered normal have achieved incredibly well in society?

Basically all of them. Having a mental illness can cause serious problems with your career even without the associated stigma.

It's really not something to joke about.



DoctorZ: probably finding out what the entry requirements are for the M.Eng courses you're interested in would be a good start. Also make sure you know what kind of government funding you can apply for.

Or listen to Inkling, because the American education system just makes no sense to me at all.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Eagle on October 03, 2010, 06:39:50 am
What the heck did I just watch!?
Oh, good, my sanity's intact.

Anyway, being serious again, the rest of that was AMAZING advice.

But, haikus? Your mileage may vary on that one...
A good footnote is: If you question your sanity, you are not insane.


People who are insane do insane craps thinking it's completely normal.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on October 03, 2010, 06:46:29 am
How many people considered normal have achieved incredibly well in society?

Basically all of them. Having a mental illness can cause serious problems with your career even without the associated stigma.

It's really not something to joke about.

I was talking less about mental illness and more about eccentricity.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 03, 2010, 07:27:10 am
DoctorZ: probably finding out what the entry requirements are for the M.Eng courses you're interested in would be a good start. Also make sure you know what kind of government funding you can apply for.

Or listen to Inkling, because the American education system just makes no sense to me at all.
Canadian*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on October 03, 2010, 10:16:15 am
How many people considered normal have achieved incredibly well in society?

Basically all of them. Having a mental illness can cause serious problems with your career even without the associated stigma.

It's really not something to joke about.

Agreed. Sure, some of the people that do extraordinarily well are a little funny in the head. But just because you don't make the evening news because of your antics doesn't mean you're not doing well. Most people that do well never become known around the world.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 03, 2010, 11:49:50 am
I think when he means "Do Well" he means "Become Very Well Known As A Blank"
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on October 03, 2010, 11:51:52 am
If that's the case, a while lot of people are setting the bar of "doing well" way too high. But I don't really think that is the case, at least not with Lurk.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on October 03, 2010, 11:54:12 am
In actuality, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 03, 2010, 02:54:32 pm
Really, intensive amounts of ego are all that get some us through the day. Self loathing is a serious condition (I blame it on the Agricultural Revolution but that's something different) and sometimes you need a boost. Here's what I do when I'm feeling chanish. Get a piece of paper write a list numbered one through ten, and just go to town on yourself. List every awesome and amazing thing you ever did and what qualities you have that make you great. Gec would write is art skills or Hydro would talk about how well he builds worlds. Then, double up. For every great accomplishment you have there, do it again! Gec would make a great pic, Hydro would make a new creature that would blow us out of the water, and just bask in the afterglow of your success
. :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on October 03, 2010, 03:25:11 pm
That... might not be such a great idea.
You might end up like Lush.

That aside, I came here to ask: what is everyone definition of a friend?

Mine was "people I go out of my way to spend time with." By that account I have absolutely zero friends, but it's also flawed because I just talked to a girl who I am undoubtedly friends with but does not fit that requirement.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 03, 2010, 03:27:16 pm
Think about a person. If they called and said they were in trouble, and you were able, would you come running? If they said they loved you, would you remark likewise? Is your philia at the maximum? That my freind, is love.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on October 03, 2010, 03:28:57 pm
That is a silly definition Kish.  You do not need to be with someone nor spend much time on them for them to be your friend.  If you ask me, the definition would be "Person you enjoy interacting with and vice versa".

Think about a person. If they called and said they were in trouble, and you were able, would you come running? If they said they loved you, would you remark likewise? Is your philia at the maximum? That my freind, is love.

Very poetic.  Too bad that wasn't the question.  Besides, everyone know that love is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope... Love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticule, and together, achieving a singular purpose against statistically long odds.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on October 03, 2010, 03:31:39 pm
Hmm... I may be friends with a whole lot of people.
Everything I know is wrong!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 03, 2010, 03:32:49 pm
Check it again, that is what he asked.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 03, 2010, 03:44:23 pm
Just because he talked about a girl does not mean he was talking about love. He was talking about friendship, plain and simple.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on October 03, 2010, 04:39:32 pm
Z is right. Thanks martyk.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 03, 2010, 05:06:47 pm
Freindship is love. Anyone who says otherwise is a dark man.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on October 03, 2010, 05:36:44 pm
Friendship is a form of love yes, but not a "true love". I have a friends that are girls that say they love me because I am fun to be around. Doesn't mean that they want to date me, it means they just like being around me.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 03, 2010, 05:53:08 pm
Eros and Philia are two different things.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on October 03, 2010, 07:23:40 pm
Quit being a tool.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 03, 2010, 07:30:22 pm
I was explaining the difference to Grazony. Stop being an arkentool.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on October 03, 2010, 07:31:54 pm
Stop being dumb.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Didero on October 04, 2010, 05:08:18 am
I was explaining the difference to Grazony. Stop being an arkentool.
You didn't explain anything, you only stated that there is a difference. An explanation usually involves expanding on a statement.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 04, 2010, 06:32:05 am
ExplainING, as in, continuous process. Had you not interrupted, Grazony would have replied and I would have gone farther.


Eros, which is what you would call Romantic love is pretty self-explanatory. Sex, relationships, cohabitation stuff like that. The "mushy junk."

Philia is what is called "Brotherly love" the classic "Nakama." Jesus and his disciples, some members of this board armed force members and close friends. Philia is what I described
 earlier and what the original query entailed.

There is also agape, but that's a little abstract.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Didero on October 04, 2010, 07:51:52 am
ExplainING, as in, continuous process. Had you not interrupted, Grazony would have replied and I would have gone farther.
You do realise this is a forum, and not a chatroom, right? You can type out long posts, explaining what you want to explain in one go.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 04, 2010, 07:57:11 am
No, he doesn't. :I We've explained it a bunch.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 04, 2010, 09:46:00 am
It's rude to lecture endlessly without input.(Not to mention kind of douchey.)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Didero on October 04, 2010, 09:54:06 am
It's rude to lecture endlessly without input.(Not to mention kind of douchey.)
It's better than one-sentence posts that at best barely mean something. On this forum we don't mind long posts at all.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on October 04, 2010, 09:54:43 am
I know there is a difference, I misunderstood what the conversation was(derp stupid me P:) but, the way you answer me was just bull. And then you try to justify that you were just explaining to me by using Greek meanings of love and nothing else a day later. No saying how different they were, or even why they were different in that post to me. Also how can you interrupt someone on a forum? Other then new post being posted there is no other way and even then you can change your post to go along with the new post. Lush I have never thought of anyone as being annoying on this forum. Never. Immature maybe, but never actually annoying. I respect your amount of knowledge on certain subjects, but please use some common sense when posting. This is coming from Grazony, one of the more idiotic people on this forum. There is no excuse. None.

Not even,
It's rude to lecture endlessly without input.(Not to mention kind of douchey.)
.__.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 04, 2010, 10:34:30 am
The Greek terms are the common definitions (at least the only standard ones) so they were the ones I used. If you know better, please enlighten me. Likewise I found my post adequate but you obviously didn't. So let me try again.


The love between friends, family and lovers work differently. While you love your best friend it is far different from a love of your mother or say your wife. Platonic (or Philiac) love works similarly to the pop phenomena of "Nakama." A deep bond between people. This is common in close-knit quasi-familial units such as military units and acting troops. (Coworkers may have similar connections.) Familial love shares some aspects but a key difference is a sort of biological imperative that is nonexistent in other relations, a sort of instinctual love that is very hard to overcome. Think to certain families with deadbeat dads and/or abusive moms. In situations that cannot be easily broken off, a blood bond is strong (its counterpart, familial hate, is common enough in royalty to be apparent.

Erotic love springs from a different biological imperative and is often confused as it has a physical aspect. Erotic love and arousal/ infatuation are often confused and muddled and truly will continue to be so. Eros is notable in that it is literally intoxicating, causing effects similar to that of cocaine. Erotic love can be almost intense as mind control and rapid changes in personality are common.


The fourth and most strange is what Jesus of Nazareth called agape. A love of god. The more religious of us would note a synonymity with the term worship. This love is notable in that rather tan being tied to a particular person (or group of persons) but instead to an abstract concept and/or a divine presides. This love has been analyzed in that it is the only not proven to exist among all men, although structures for it have been noted in some beings. (A love of Science or Art for example.)


And that’s about it, I hope this helps you out; this was killer on my fingers.  :)
 
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Grazony on October 04, 2010, 10:58:27 am
The Greek terms are the common definitions (at least the only standard ones) so they were the ones I used. If you know better, please enlighten me. Likewise I found my post adequate but you obviously didn't. So let me try again.
I know there is a difference, I misunderstood what the conversation was(derp stupid me P:)

No I didn't need a second explanation. I knew it was a Greek definition, I knew there was a difference. But what if I didn't know? How was
Eros and Philia are two different things.
going to help me understand at all?

I mean yeah there is Google, but you wanted me to reply What is that? and wait for you to reply instead of just telling me. That is a waste of my time.


Edit:
Enough of this. Next person to post please post a personal problem to be on topic. Go away Lush.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 04, 2010, 11:00:53 am
I just broke them down for you. Is that adequate?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on October 04, 2010, 11:03:48 am
The Greek terms are the common definitions (at least the only standard ones) so they were the ones I used. If you know better, please enlighten me. Likewise I found my post adequate but you obviously didn't. So let me try again.


The love between friends, family and lovers work differently. While you love your best friend it is far different from a love of your mother or say your wife. Platonic (or Philiac) love works similarly to the pop phenomena of "Nakama." A deep bond between people. This is common in close-knit quasi-familial units such as military units and acting troops. (Coworkers may have similar connections.) Familial love shares some aspects but a key difference is a sort of biological imperative that is nonexistent in other relations, a sort of instinctual love that is very hard to overcome. Think to certain families with deadbeat dads and/or abusive moms. In situations that cannot be easily broken off, a blood bond is strong (its counterpart, familial hate, is common enough in royalty to be apparent.

Erotic love springs from a different biological imperative and is often confused as it has a physical aspect. Erotic love and arousal/ infatuation are often confused and muddled and truly will continue to be so. Eros is notable in that it is literally intoxicating, causing effects similar to that of cocaine. Erotic love can be almost intense as mind control and rapid changes in personality are common.


The fourth and most strange is what Jesus of Nazareth called agape. A love of god. The more religious of us would note a synonymity with the term worship. This love is notable in that rather tan being tied to a particular person (or group of persons) but instead to an abstract concept and/or a divine presides. This love has been analyzed in that it is the only not proven to exist among all men, although structures for it have been noted in some beings. (A love of Science or Art for example.)


And that’s about it, I hope this helps you out; this was killer on my fingers.  :)
 




It's rude to lecture endlessly without input.(Not to mention kind of douchey.)

Oh the irony.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on October 04, 2010, 11:48:17 am
Next person to post please post a personal problem to be on topic. Go away Lush.

My problem is I spend way too much time thinking about TV shows. Really! Like today, I just watched an episode of Dexter two hours ago, and I'm still sitting here thinking about it. I've been literally doing nothing else than thinking about possible future storylines for two hours. And you know, this happens all the time. I always end up wasting a whole evening right after I've watched an interesting show.

See, what happens is that after I've watched a show, I go to some forums that are about that show. So I keep reading the stuff people are posting until I get an interesting idea about what could happen in the show sometime in the future. And right before I really start developing that idea further, I think: "Man, there are a million things I should be doing, but this idea just sounds so interesting. I'll just take a few minutes to get a good picture of it in my head and then I'll concentrate on actually important stuff." Before I know it, a few hours have passed and I've gotten absolutely nothing done. And you know, sometimes I just feel like I would seem like a pretty damn big weirdo if somebody ever saw me like that, just sitting around doing nothing, for hours.

So, my problem is; am I a big damn weirdo and what the hell should I do about it? I keep losing valuable time on this pointless bull****.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 04, 2010, 12:03:47 pm
What the hell should I do about it?

Pursue a career in television!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Person21 on October 04, 2010, 12:08:50 pm
Watch more interesting TV shows so you don't have time to think endlessly about just one.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Didero on October 04, 2010, 12:18:26 pm
Instead of just thinking about your plot idea, write it down. That could help to clear it from your head.
It may sound weird, but it works for some people.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 04, 2010, 01:14:47 pm
I have a related problem with tv shows, as well as most media actually. Anytime a new season of a show comes
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 04, 2010, 01:31:43 pm
Use an alarm clock :o
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on October 04, 2010, 03:48:05 pm
Try and stay away from TV Tropes it sounds like it will suck you in.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 05, 2010, 04:54:38 am
I know what I'm doing wrong, but I don't know how to fix it. The thing is, I can't just shut up. Why? Because then the silence drives me mad. I blast the music on my computer just to hear something. More than that, I stay away from any given topic, and it veers off in directions I don't understand. What I'm trying to say is, how do I contribute to every discussion without obeying the Law of Conservation of Intelligence?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on October 05, 2010, 05:02:40 am
@GD Write down your ideas in Word or NotePad, file them under FanFic and never look at them again. Or post them on the internet, it doesn't matter.

@Dr.Oct There isn't any need to contribute to every topic.

Anway, I was going to post my personal problem that I have never seen Ghostbusters, but I have recently solved that problem.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on October 05, 2010, 05:06:24 am
Do you still have the problem of not seeing Ghostbusters 2 as well?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on October 05, 2010, 06:33:30 am
Yes, but I have Ghostbusters in the house. We do not have the sequel.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on October 05, 2010, 11:45:01 am
I have never seen Ghostbusters either.

Or The Wizard of Oz or a single episode of Star Trek or... uh, name some famous movies that you assume everyone has seen. Chances are I haven't seen it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 05, 2010, 02:25:17 pm
Dude, what's wrong with you? I saw Oz before I could walk.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 05, 2010, 02:43:16 pm
uh, name some famous movies that you assume everyone has seen. Chances are I haven't seen it.
Lord Of The Rings.
Remember the Titans.
Avatar.
March of the Penguins.
 Any of these will do.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 05, 2010, 03:11:44 pm
A little early...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on October 05, 2010, 07:24:16 pm
uh, name some famous movies that you assume everyone has seen. Chances are I haven't seen it.
Lord Of The Rings.
Remember the Titans.
Avatar.
March of the Penguins.
 Any of these will do.

Yes, no, yes, no.

I saw bits of March of the Penguins. It looked stupid.  >:(
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on October 05, 2010, 07:48:41 pm
My impression of the movie is that it's your standard animal documentary, except made by Disney so they give the penguins waaaay too much human emotion and/or motivation.  Also it's narrated by Morgan Freeman, I think.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on October 05, 2010, 08:01:35 pm
It made me cry.

But it's a Disney movie? I didn't know that. Now I know that all the movies that make me cry are made by Disney.

Except for E.T.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 05, 2010, 08:48:35 pm
The also did the Earth series, but that time they used Oprah.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on October 05, 2010, 08:50:48 pm
 No, you're wrong.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Earth_(TV_series))
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on October 05, 2010, 09:02:54 pm
You're thinking Life, I think.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Lush City on October 05, 2010, 10:17:45 pm
Ah, yes. Silly me. Monosyllabic and over imposing film titles all blend together now don’t they?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on October 06, 2010, 07:59:17 am
Nope, Life was narrated Sir David Attenborough.

Not our fault you Americans can't handle his voice.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on October 06, 2010, 08:04:13 am
They dubbed Attenborough's voice?

Shame on you, yanks.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on October 06, 2010, 05:03:10 pm
No, I can't remember the original, but the new encore episode of it or whatever is narrated by Oprah Winfrey.

I think I do remember the original done by some British dude though.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 06, 2010, 05:11:11 pm
I think I do remember the original done by some British dude though.

Haha. Banned forever.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on October 06, 2010, 05:43:29 pm
Ha
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 06, 2010, 06:34:36 pm
This is why I prefer the original narration for Walking With Dinosaurs. Well, OK, besides the fact that he presents the facts instead of personifying the dinosaurs.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Manna on October 07, 2010, 03:32:11 am
Attenborough is fine, but will someone please take back Jamie Oliver? in exchange, we're prepared to take oprah off your hands for a bit.

My personal problem is that if he doesn't stop taking up prime time with reality tv shows and general inane banter, I might just have to "bash it up a bit"

I am aware that this rant is left field but the tv's on and I can't reach the remote...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on October 07, 2010, 04:30:42 am
But you could reach your PC it seems.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on October 07, 2010, 12:24:19 pm
No, you can keep him. We don't want him.

Have you tried throwing him in recycling or the compost heap? He is biodegradable, and I'd think he'd enjoy being compost.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 20, 2010, 04:15:23 pm
I have a moral conundrum.

A friend of mine just lost a friend to a car accident. I don't want to sound heartless, but the incident was so utterly absurd that it Crossed The Line Twice in my mind and became funny. So, should I be honest and possibly lose a friend, or lie and perhaps become even more of a complete monster. Due to my overexposure to certain things, I have been desensitized to many forms of tragedy. Even the death of my great-grandmother didn't affect me as much as it would a normal person. She died at 6AM on President Obama's inauguration day, so she didn't get to see the moment most folks of the African-American persuasion had been waiting for for decades. I... I don't know what I should do. Am I completely irredeemable at this point?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 20, 2010, 04:40:20 pm
You said "Folks of the African-American persuasion"
Am I completely irredeemable at this point?
Yes.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on October 20, 2010, 05:00:46 pm
This really depends on just how absurd we're talking, but regardless of your own thoughts you need to comfort your friend in their time of need.

If it really was that ridiculous, you can laugh about it a year down the road, but for now keep your mouth shut.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Person21 on October 21, 2010, 01:26:45 am
Congrats Dr.O, you're now edgy.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on October 21, 2010, 01:43:51 am
I'm pretty sure that opting not to tell cheap jokes about the recently deceased doesn't make you a monster.
It isn't even a "white lie", its called basic ****ing tact. Christ, man. You had to ask this? Really?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on October 21, 2010, 02:25:42 am
I have a moral conundrum.

A friend of mine just lost a friend to a car accident. I don't want to sound heartless, but the incident was so utterly absurd that it Crossed The Line Twice in my mind and became funny. So, should I be honest and possibly lose a friend, or lie and perhaps become even more of a complete monster. Due to my overexposure to certain things, I have been desensitized to many forms of tragedy. Even the death of my great-grandmother didn't affect me as much as it would a normal person. She died at 6AM on President Obama's inauguration day, so she didn't get to see the moment most folks of the African-American persuasion had been waiting for for decades. I... I don't know what I should do. Am I completely irredeemable at this point?

No, Doctor Octopus. Telling "the truth" will not make people think you are some kind of a mysterious man with dark secrets. It will just make people think you are an insensitive, rude teenager.

There's also nothing weird about not being affected by the death of a distant relative. So stop thinking there's something so special about you.

To answer your question, no, you're not completely irredeemable, although you apparently wish you were. You gotta try harder, you skunk. Perhaps you should consider joking about that person's death in his funeral. THEN you're completely irredeemable! Good luck!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 21, 2010, 03:03:59 am
Yes. Turns out the big secret is, we all think things like that from time to time. We find things that other people find sad funny. Everyone lies from time to time to spare someone else's feelings. So suck it up and lie like an adult.

Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 21, 2010, 03:08:46 am
Thanks, Krakow Sam.

You know, Great Distance, I used to think you were pretty cool, but from what I'm seeing here, you're trolling me for having a valid question and wanting public opinion on it. At least Krakow Sam got to the freaking POINT, whereas you took 75% of your post to spam me with pointless, shallow insults that sound more like something TheMist would say than a valid comment. If I ever leave, you'll be a primary factor.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 21, 2010, 03:13:56 am
Nope. GD has some valid points.

SHE WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONTINUE.

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/Krakowsam/gladiator-thumbs-down.jpg)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 21, 2010, 03:20:57 am
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9656/fffuuu.png) (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/fffuuu.png/)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on October 21, 2010, 04:19:39 am
you took 75% of your post to spam me with pointless, shallow insults that sound more like something TheMist would say than a valid comment. If I ever leave, you'll be a primary factor.

Octagon, what the hell are you talking about.  TheMist was banned more than a year before you joined.  You do not have enough experience in the matter to draw parallels like that.

You can't ask us for our opinions on things and then get upset when it's not what you wanted to hear.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on October 21, 2010, 04:35:49 am
Especially when you're seriously asking us if cracking jokes about the recently deceased (to the people who were close to them, in fact), is a good thing.
Desensitisation is a normal thing. As is finding humour in bleak events that do not effect you. But what did you expect? "I could crack a joke about this person who died a little while ago, around people grieving. Would I be a monster if I 'lied' by not telling it?"

And then when you get a bad response, you call the person a troll? Come on man. It doesn't take a life's career high science to expect a negative response. Given it only takes a second of contemplation to see this was a bad idea, my troll sense is tingling towards -you-. I really don't see how a person can lack foresight this badly.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on October 21, 2010, 07:23:40 am
Looks like Octan's post backfired. He simply wanted to be pitied.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on October 21, 2010, 07:46:07 am
Looks at this post.
Quote
No need to point that out, Flisch.

Now kindly go over there and don't talk.

And attempts to quote it.

Quote
An Error Has Occurred!

The post you are trying to quote either does not exist, was deleted, or is no longer viewable by you.
Mmmmhhh... *squints eyes*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on October 21, 2010, 07:53:53 am
but from what I'm seeing here, you're trolling me for having a valid question

LEARN WHAT THAT WORD MEANS OR STOP USING IT.

Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on October 21, 2010, 08:03:47 am
but from what I'm seeing here, you're trolling me for having a valid question

LEARN WHAT THAT WORD MEANS OR STOP USING IT.



From what I can see here Dr.Octagonapus,you are the one trolling them.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 21, 2010, 09:15:00 am
BLUH BLUH HUGE DRAMA D:<
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 21, 2010, 12:44:22 pm
but from what I'm seeing here, you're trolling me for having a valid question

LEARN WHAT THAT WORD MEANS OR STOP USING IT.


It means to post an inflammatory message specifically to anger others. Everything I have ever said about this topic, which officially ends at the conclusion of this post, is my honest and real-life opinion on the subject. Meanwhile, I was barraged with personal attacks that were completely out of context. Perhaps you don't respect the fact that my moral system is different than yours. I respect that. Now, I seem to have left a bad first impression. Let's try this again.

Hello, you may call me Dr.Octagonapus. I enjoy anime, Real Time Strategy games, and pizza, among other things. I am very interested in learning more about you, and I hope that we will all get along well in the future.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Putspooza on October 21, 2010, 12:56:55 pm
You don't just get to get a clean slate like that man :P
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 21, 2010, 01:04:10 pm
Does the official process involve walking on lit coals?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: munchkin5 on October 21, 2010, 01:10:05 pm
Perhaps you should start off ny realising that what you said was pretty dumb and thats why you got a bad response (i.e not trolling), and then maybe we'll forgive you.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Person21 on October 21, 2010, 01:12:43 pm
Nope. GD has some valid points.

SHE WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONTINUE.

Oh come on, I said the same thing in fewer words. :P


Anyway, Dr.O. You're being what most of us where when we were 14. Try to grow out of it sooner rather than later to stop everyone leaving sarcastic comments after you post.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 21, 2010, 01:15:49 pm
Isn't that kind of... impossible?

MOVING ON NOW.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 21, 2010, 01:19:33 pm
YES IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO FIGURE OUT THAT SOMETHING YOU DO IS STUPID


:I


I'M YELLING
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Person21 on October 21, 2010, 01:21:33 pm
Isn't that kind of... impossible?

No it isn't. As I've said we've all had to do it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 21, 2010, 01:26:35 pm
Yes. However, think back to how long it took you. Now imagine that period of time multiplied by about 100. Yeah, that's how long it would take me. Why? While none of you are really affected by the internet and what people there have to say, I take all of the posts personally. All of the posts. This leads to... interesting results. I also tend to take sarcasm at face value, if only because I usually don't get it.
TheMist was banned more than a year before you joined.
However, I have met him face-to-face and talked to him in real life.
Given it only takes a second of contemplation to see this was a bad idea, my troll sense is tingling towards -you-. I really don't see how a person can lack foresight this badly.
You obviously don't know how limited my concept of foresight is. Plus, I never contemplated this whole thing. I simply posted what I felt.

SERIOUSLY, MOVING ON NOW.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on October 21, 2010, 01:35:57 pm
Yes. However, think back to how long it took you. Now imagine that period of time multiplied by about 100. Yeah, that's how long it would take me. Why? While none of you are really affected by the internet and what people there have to say, I take all of the posts personally. All of the posts. This leads to... interesting results. I also tend to take sarcasm at face value, if only because I usually don't get it.
TheMist was banned more than a year before you joined.
However, I have met him face-to-face and talked to him in real life.
Given it only takes a second of contemplation to see this was a bad idea, my troll sense is tingling towards -you-. I really don't see how a person can lack foresight this badly.
You obviously don't know how limited my concept of foresight is. Plus, I never contemplated this whole thing. I simply posted what I felt.
"I'm very bad at <something> and do it anyway." Is not a valid reason for anything.

SERIOUSLY, MOVING ON NOW.
Using reverse reverse psychology on us? No way! We will stop talking about this when we feel like it. (Or the mods stop us, I guess.)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: munchkin5 on October 21, 2010, 01:43:32 pm
Yes. However, think back to how long it took you. Now imagine that period of time multiplied by about 100.

No, no it won't. You aren't a special case in the way you think about and interpret things, you're pretty much the same as everyone else.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on October 21, 2010, 02:30:39 pm
You obviously don't know how limited my concept of foresight is. Plus, I never contemplated this whole thing. I simply posted what I felt.
I guess you'll have to consider all this a bit of a hard lesson, then. Sometimes you have to shove a foot in your mouth before you learn to start anticipating things like this. Hopefully you won't remember this later on when you realise exactly the degree of facepalm caused here. :P I still can't really understand why you'd consider withholding a tactless joke somehow reflecting negatively on you though, but whatever. Hopefully a new subject will get brought up and then we can stop kicking you in the shins and calling you stoopeet.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 21, 2010, 02:34:44 pm
My new problem? Wedgies. Not the bully kind, either. I'm talking the kind that you get after going to the bathroom. You know, it's as if your underwear are trying to strangle you, but they realized they couldn't reach your neck, so they make walking uncomfortable for you instead. What do I do about this?

Also, I can't wake up to my alarm clock anymore! I either oversleep or undersleep these days. HELP!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Person21 on October 21, 2010, 02:46:45 pm
You adjust your underwear
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on October 21, 2010, 04:00:24 pm
Also, I can't wake up to my alarm clock anymore! I either oversleep or undersleep these days. HELP!
Just get your mom to do it.

It's how I compensate for not having an alarm clock.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on October 21, 2010, 05:31:53 pm
I actually found that using an alarm clock just teaches you how to turn off a device whilst still asleep.
The trick here, is to place your alarm clock away from the bed, so you have to get up to turn it off.
Step by step, your alarm clock will have to be made louder and further away, to compensate for your growing tolerance to the infernal device
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on October 21, 2010, 06:39:49 pm
Four alarm clocks placed in different locations around my room.

At least one of them has to be placed by someone other than me unless I want to run the risk of turning it off and going back to bed.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Clarke on October 21, 2010, 06:46:49 pm
Put a watch inside your pillowcase.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on October 21, 2010, 07:15:40 pm
Oh... I'm gonna use that one. Thanks!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 21, 2010, 07:18:42 pm
Never sleep.


It's how I manage to mayonaise!


Giant peanut butter is a great monkey.


Patman I am your patmother.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 21, 2010, 07:21:08 pm
Also, I can't wake up to my alarm clock anymore! I either oversleep or undersleep these days. HELP!
Just get your mom to do it.

It's how I compensate for not having an alarm clock.
But... I live with my dad... my mom's in New York.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on October 21, 2010, 07:44:32 pm
Do what PatMan claims he does, that seems rather ingenious, if a bit expensive.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gungnir on October 21, 2010, 08:24:21 pm
I've got an alarm clock with two alarms...I think that I turn it off while quasi-asleep. Quite bothersome, as I thought that it just wasn't going off. Turns out it was, as the rest of my family would wake up when the thing went off.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: emmet on October 21, 2010, 11:35:41 pm
Put the alarm clock right outside your room, then sleep naked.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on October 22, 2010, 01:39:36 am
You know what I do?

I just wake up. I don't need an alarm clock.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on October 22, 2010, 02:52:07 am
You know what I do?

I just wake up. I don't need an alarm clock.
I have three alarm clocks and wake up 20 minutes after the last one stopped ringing...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Haseri on October 22, 2010, 05:30:43 am
Maybe you need to start being as awesome as I am.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: munchkin5 on October 22, 2010, 08:04:54 am
I just have it so that the alram goes off about an hour before i have to get up and keep hitting snooze, then after about an hour i'm awake enough to realise i have to get out of bed.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 24, 2010, 06:11:15 pm
New problems!

1: I'm having a hard time trusting people lately. That includes myself. Do you know how impossible it is to predict whether or not you're part of a government conspiracy against yourself? Yes, I know all of this sounds dumb. So does everything else I actually somewhat care about.
2: Engineering Foundations 2. Oddball assignments, a teacher that seems to explain nothing, not even to the kid who sits across the class from me who is failing, and projects that most 14-year-olds shouldn't even know how to complete unless they're at a college-level intellect.
3: There's this kid in school who seems to always know exactly where I am at any given moment, even when we're not in school.
4: Excercise. It just isn't working out for me. It's more like preform hours of strenuous activity every day and achieve absolutely nothing. Even back when I excercised for two hours a day in elementary school, I couldn't do a signle pushup. Now that my muscles are developing, I can do about 2. Is this biological, or do I really suck this much?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Ultramarine on October 24, 2010, 06:49:35 pm
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1: I'm having a hard time trusting people lately. That includes myself. Do you know how impossible it is to predict whether or not you're part of a government conspiracy against yourself? Yes, I know all of this sounds dumb. So does everything else I actually somewhat care about.

Putting yourself down won't help much :x and no it's not stupid, a bit... paranoid maybe. You just have to relax, it's the media; sure things like that are possible but very unlikely. And I don't know why, but this totally reminds me of Inception.

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2: Engineering Foundations 2. Oddball assignments, a teacher that seems to explain nothing, not even to the kid who sits across the class from me who is failing, and projects that most 14-year-olds shouldn't even know how to complete unless they're at a college-level intellect.

Uh, switch classes maybe? I assume the first semester isn't over yet, and even if it is you can be placed in a lower class. Either that or ya know, talk to the teacher, counselor or even the principal about the issue. Don't just sit there and expect the problem to fix itself, do something about it. And to be honest, college work and highschool differ just slightly; if anything its an exaggeration.

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3: There's this kid in school who seems to always know exactly where I am at any given moment, even when we're not in school.

Punch him in the jaw. Make it aware that you want your space <_< either that or outright ask him why he's basically stalking you; latter options are to make it known to an adult or just tell him to **** off.

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4: Excercise. It just isn't working out for me. It's more like preform hours of strenuous activity every day and achieve absolutely nothing. Even back when I excercised for two hours a day in elementary school, I couldn't do a signle pushup. Now that my muscles are developing, I can do about 2. Is this biological, or do I really suck this much?

Well considering your age and the fact you mentioned your now apparent muscle growth, no, you don't suck. It's called puberty. With all of the changes things you couldn't do before you can do now. And while 2 push ups is something to snuff at, it's still an improvement. Meaning.. well... you know where I'm going with this: Practice= perfection of said technique. In time, exercise and a steady diet you'll be able to do much more then you thought you were previously capable of. Not saying you'll be the hulk or anything.

Hrm. I think that's it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 24, 2010, 06:53:02 pm
Eh, there's a bit of a problem with the class thing: it's a required, full-year course. And I've already tried everything you said. Nobody believes me, though.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 24, 2010, 07:58:45 pm
Insist upon it, then.

Say, in your own words of course, "No, **** you, this is happening, and as the party responsible for educating me, it's your JOB to make sure I understand what you're teaching me! If I don't, then somethings wrong."


Unless you're not talking about school, then I have no idea.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on October 25, 2010, 05:49:17 am
Going back a topic. I just don't hit snooze I let the radio play often I'll often take 20 mins to get going but it stops me from falling right back to sleep keeps me awake enough to get out of the haze of waking up.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: munchkin5 on October 25, 2010, 06:31:07 am
1: I'm having a hard time trusting people lately. That includes myself. Do you know how impossible it is to predict whether or not you're part of a government conspiracy against yourself? Yes, I know all of this sounds dumb. So does everything else I actually somewhat care about.

This just plain isn't happening,it's paranoia if anything but you'll likely get over this feeling.

2: Engineering Foundations 2. Oddball assignments, a teacher that seems to explain nothing, not even to the kid who sits across the class from me who is failing, and projects that most 14-year-olds shouldn't even know how to complete unless they're at a college-level intellect.

This seems to be an exgeration, so a few questions;

- How long has the school done this course, and what have previous students achieved in it?
- How long has this particular teacher taught this course, is he a bad teacher really?
- Is this class generally considered hard, are any other students doing particularly well or bad (especially in comparison to how they do in other classes)?
- Is there a possibility that you in particular are having trouble understanding the material, would it be worth approaching the teacher idvidually to ask for extra assistance?

3: There's this kid in school who seems to always know exactly where I am at any given moment, even when we're not in school.

Who is this kid, is he stalking you?, Are you exagerating? What are the circumstances?, basically this needs more information.

4: Excercise. It just isn't working out for me. It's more like preform hours of strenuous activity every day and achieve absolutely nothing. Even back when I excercised for two hours a day in elementary school, I couldn't do a signle pushup. Now that my muscles are developing, I can do about 2. Is this biological, or do I really suck this much?

I personally wouldn't put a great importance upon physical fitness and at 14 i wouldn't worry too much as long as your reasonably healthy, don't over exercise but keep active and if you want you practice pushups, you can generally get good improvements if you stick to doing them regularly. Just haphazardly exercising and not eating to fit the needs of your regimen won't get you very far, generally to get results from exercising you need to give it time and be commited.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Distance on October 25, 2010, 06:45:20 am
1: I'm having a hard time trusting people lately. That includes myself. Do you know how impossible it is to predict whether or not you're part of a government conspiracy against yourself? Yes, I know all of this sounds dumb. So does everything else I actually somewhat care about.

I think people would take this issue more seriously if you could tell us what exactly you are feeling paranoid about and why. Is it people talking behind your back? Giving you looks that you don't know the meaning of? Perhaps you could elaborate.

3: There's this kid in school who seems to always know exactly where I am at any given moment, even when we're not in school.

Who is this kid, is he stalking you?, Are you exagerating? What are the circumstances?, basically this needs more information.

I agree. This needs more information as well.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 25, 2010, 01:13:27 pm
So, the kid who always knows where I am isn't stalking me. It's just, whenever he calls, he guesses (correctly) where I am and what I'm doing just from my voice. It's really creepy.

As for the class, the teacher's been there for several years. However, everyone I knew at the beginning of the year who had taken the class with him said that I would hate it. I'm really more scared for the others around me. The kids manage to pass, but most get C's. It is generally considered more difficult than AP Biology, which is pretty hard, from what I've heard. There is a possibility that maybe I just don't get it, but the fact that most of the other students that take it the class is having the same problems makes it unlikely.

The paranoia? It's literally just, "X is either planning to kill me, someone I know, or someone otherwise important."
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on October 25, 2010, 01:38:08 pm
That first doesn't seem like a gripe so much as a "Hey guys, this guys weird~!" so I'm going to ignore it unless you have some unresolved issue.


As for the class, I would either get a tutor, or go the autodidact route and try and learn the material on your own from reputable sources. The INTERNET isn't just for fun, you know. (Weird, "internet" isn't in the spellcheck, but "INTERNET" is?)


As for the paranoia, ignore it unless they act threatening for real.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on October 25, 2010, 06:45:47 pm
Sounds more like the guy keeps guessing that your at home playing on your PC. Simply because you don't go anywhere therefore guessing that gives him a good chance of being right.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gnoll on October 26, 2010, 12:43:38 pm
...you're probably right...
>_<
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on October 28, 2010, 06:50:43 pm
I'm 18 and pay for things around my house yet my father still treats me like I was 10


I don't want to live here anymore, I'm going to end up killing him if his crap doesn't stop
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on October 28, 2010, 06:56:12 pm
So how do you plan on fixing the problem?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Clarke on October 28, 2010, 07:16:39 pm
Fire is the ultimate cleanser. Fire solves all problems.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on October 28, 2010, 07:18:36 pm
So how do you plan on fixing the problem?

I have a 37 step plan but first I need to get some supplies from home depot.


Whats a good shovel for shallow graves?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on October 28, 2010, 07:27:26 pm
Probably any generic will do, though I would recommend a Voile Brand shovel if you want to give it that extra touch.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on October 28, 2010, 07:36:49 pm
I'm also going to need a bloody glove that doesn't fit my hand....


and a lawyer whose family will get their own reality tv show for some reason...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Little on October 29, 2010, 10:42:58 pm
So how do you plan on fixing the problem?

I have a 37 step plan but first I need to get some supplies from home depot.


Whats a good shovel for shallow graves?

Dig deep, the police dogs can't smell the body when it's twelve feet underground.
>_> <_<
*evil laughter*

Seriously though, have you tried talking to him about it? Mention that you'd like to be treated with an attitude more fitting for your age, that you're a responsible adult, etc.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on October 29, 2010, 11:07:41 pm
First you have to be a responsible adult. It entails more than paying for your own stuff.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on October 30, 2010, 07:34:10 am
So how do you plan on fixing the problem?

I have a 37 step plan but first I need to get some supplies from home depot.


Whats a good shovel for shallow graves?

Dig deep, the police dogs can't smell the body when it's twelve feet underground.
>_> <_<
*evil laughter*

Seriously though, have you tried talking to him about it? Mention that you'd like to be treated with an attitude more fitting for your age, that you're a responsible adult, etc.

tried this all it got was my 1700 dollar computer smashed
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kenotai on October 30, 2010, 07:38:08 am
Was the computer in your name?  That's destruction of property, which is a crime.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on October 30, 2010, 10:54:57 am
Sounds like the problem is either entirely or in equal parts your dad.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on October 30, 2010, 04:52:04 pm
since I seem to have some sanity right now allow me to reiterate everything that has occurred to me this week


Lost my job to the managers son who shows up late to work by 2 hours everyday while I show up early everyday
I'm struggling in math yet my father wants me to be more like my cousin who is in ap trig
a plethora of the classes I applied to join I was denied for and was forcefully placed in classes I didn't want like astronomy and cooking
my father destroying my stuff and expecting me to respect him
lost most if not all of my sanity
suicidal/murderous urges
lost my car
dog was hurt and had to go to vet
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on October 30, 2010, 09:41:39 pm
I'm afraid the only advice I can give is to look somewhere besides the Internet for help. That... or murder your dad in his sleep.

I'm kidding.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Yuu on November 04, 2010, 11:21:13 pm
Do your best to become independent ASAP. Your dad sounds exactly like someone else that I know of. And I can tell you now, with full confidence, that things would've turned pretty bloody, or insane, pretty quickly if said person's victim didn't gain independence as soon as he/she did.

From what's been said, your father seems to be a very, very, very troubled person. And that trouble's only going to spill out more and mroe to people living around him.

Don't be overly hostile about gaining independence, though. That will only cause more trouble than it's worth, believe me, I've seen it happen all too often.

Look at it this way: Once you're completely stable and independent, you can basically erase him from your life and forget that he ever existed.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on February 09, 2011, 07:20:27 pm
F***, I just realized i'm that pretty-boy duchebag with nothing to say but keeps talking anyway.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on February 09, 2011, 07:29:31 pm
My condolances.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on February 09, 2011, 07:43:25 pm
Ha
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on February 09, 2011, 08:01:15 pm
Have you tried being uglier?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on February 09, 2011, 11:09:43 pm
I like being pretty
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on February 10, 2011, 03:06:13 am
Wear a mask to cover up your prettiness, then become a character in an anime or a beat-em-up.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on February 10, 2011, 09:08:15 am
I defy you to prove your prettiness. Most likely, it doesn't exist and you have nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on February 10, 2011, 09:21:28 am
Guys, sometimes I worry that I'm too perfect. Advice plz.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on February 10, 2011, 09:23:45 am
I feel your pain. It's not easy being so perfect and I'm glad you asked for help.

Have you tried being less perfect? Sometimes a little bit of perfect effort is all you need to break your perfection.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on February 10, 2011, 09:24:50 am
I agree completley with Brandon on this one?  I used to stuggle with this problem a lot too before I tried that.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on February 10, 2011, 09:25:19 am
The thing is, I think being this perfect is damaging to my self esteem.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on February 10, 2011, 09:26:24 am
People tend to see your perfection and not the real you.

feelsbadman.jpg
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Legodragonxp on February 10, 2011, 03:24:05 pm
I like being pretty

Pretty what?

-Lego
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on February 10, 2011, 08:41:40 pm
pretty looking.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on February 10, 2011, 10:36:25 pm
Looks pretty bad.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: sgore on February 10, 2011, 11:02:20 pm
F***, I just realized i'm that pretty-boy duchebag with nothing to say but keeps talking anyway.

Is there a scrappy, young ne'er-do-well nearby? Unskilled in proper social graces yet charmingly sincere and appearing to take interest in your current significant other?
Does he frequently partake in mischievous yet hilarious antics at your expense?

If so, do not engage him. It will end badly for you and your relationship.
Merely laugh it off and repeatedly offer him your friendship.

So long as you are not serving any nefarious super-villianesque schemes at the time, and I have not misunderstood what kind of story you are in, you should be fine.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: LadyM on February 11, 2011, 01:25:41 pm
breaks into song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7BQRGXFLJs
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cow on February 11, 2011, 05:41:02 pm
Hey, real problem here!

So, I started dating this girl at my school a few months ago (the fact that I don't remember when sorta illustrates my point) after we went to a couple of dances together. I was sorta peer pressured into it at a football game by her friends. Honestly, I'm not sure why I asked her, other than to make her happy. I have no spark, no real interest in her at all.

I feel trapped. I want out, but I don't want to hurt her, because she's a really good friend and, honestly, I'm afraid breaking up with her would result in a serious loss of face (plus one of her crazy friends threatened to murder me in an only semi-joking way). I go through phases of slight interest and complete disdain for her, which is terribly confusing.

I think I have three options;

1) Tough it out till we split for college. I don't like this at all.

2) Get her to break up with me. Not likely.

3) Tell her that I don't want a relationship at this point, and that I don't feel like we're going anywhere. Basically, honesty.

HALP
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on February 11, 2011, 08:01:33 pm
I go through periods of complete disdain for my friends, then I realize i'm being a pretentious ass and get over my self.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cow on February 11, 2011, 09:14:07 pm
I go through periods of complete disdain for my friends, then I realize i'm being a pretentious ass and get over my self.

Man, way to completely ignore the vast majority of my post. Then again, just posting this has made me realize what I have to do. So... thanks I guess?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on February 11, 2011, 09:30:04 pm
Honesty is the only good option here.
You have to be true to yourself, otherwise you may end up resenting her and effectively squashing what friendship there was.
Life is for living, and if you don't enjoy something, you have to take all steps within reason to make it right. No crazy, daring spy-movie tactics or planning is needed here. Just the basics of what any worthwhile friends should have in the beginning : A degree of trust that the other person won't flip the f**k out at the drop of a hat. Even if she is really into you, and feels hurt, she will get over it. Better to lay it to rest gently and early, rather than let it linger and get more complex, or try a backwards-ass 'trick' way of resolving it, and risk ending up like a double-or-nothing gambler with empty pockets at the end of it.

Option 2 that you listed, i've always heavily disliked. A gigantic cop-out. Not that you were seriously thinking of it (or in the way i'm about to blather on about), but people who want to break up with somebody, yet don't have the courage to initiate it, so try to find ways to provoke the other person into doing the dirty work? Yeah, big cop-out. In many cases it is to prevent yourself from feeling like the bad guy, instead of giving the other person a false sense of choice ("so they don't feel so bad"). All it ever ends up doing is making the break-up FAR more messy, and can often turn a simple thing into a long, drawn out death-fart, instead of something remotely respectful and amicable. Blah.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on February 11, 2011, 09:49:57 pm
From my limited observations, I'm with Uro.  If you keep dating a girl when you don't want to, it's gonna show and she'll catch on.  Slow declines and slow breakups can be ugly, and the longer you let it go the worse it will probably get.  If you don't want to date her I'd say the best approach is to end it soon, but as gently as you can.  Hopefully she and her friends aren't the type to hold grudges and you can go back to being friends.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on February 11, 2011, 11:50:10 pm

Man, way to completely ignore the vast majority of my post. Then again, just posting this has made me realize what I have to do. So... thanks I guess?

I wasn't trying to help, but your welcome :)
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Uroboros on February 12, 2011, 06:25:39 am
Hopefully she and her friends aren't the type to hold grudges and you can go back to being friends.
And if they are the type to hold grudges over things they pressured you into doing... then they've obviously not people you'd want to call friends. :P
You could count that scenario as a "lucky escape"
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cow on February 12, 2011, 09:20:11 am
Hopefully she and her friends aren't the type to hold grudges and you can go back to being friends.
And if they are the type to hold grudges over things they pressured you into doing... then they've obviously not people you'd want to call friends. :P
You could count that scenario as a "lucky escape"

Yep. Let's hope I don't get murdered! 
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on February 12, 2011, 09:47:34 am
She hot? Pix.

If the answer is yes, I say just go with it. Its high school, you aint marryin this chick, get something good out of it at least.

If not, go with Uro.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 12, 2011, 09:52:17 am
I was in a similar situation, I broke it off and we stayed friends afterwards. Wasn't too big a problem. Just dump her as nicely as possible and everything will likely turn out fine.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on February 13, 2011, 07:09:19 pm
It's Valentines Day today though, don't be an ass by going and doing it today. No one wants to be dumped on Valentines Day.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Raz on February 13, 2011, 09:04:43 pm
Nor right after Valentine's Day I would think.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Legodragonxp on February 13, 2011, 09:30:06 pm
It's Valentines Day today though, don't be an ass by going and doing it today. No one wants to be dumped on Valentines Day.
No, you do the dumping the day before and save money.

-Lego
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on February 13, 2011, 09:55:02 pm
My girlfriend used to have a friend who dumped her boyfriend every year just before christmas and then conveniently took him back a few weeks later.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: eropS on February 14, 2011, 08:26:13 am
It's Valentines Day today though, don't be an ass by going and doing it today. No one wants to be dumped on Valentines Day.
No, you do the dumping the day before and save money.

-Lego


Lego you just are so awesome.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cow on February 14, 2011, 06:44:12 pm
Yeah, this whole week seems a bit iffy.

For reasons I don't fully comprehend, I'm really anxious about this. It's making me feel sick, plus I have to piss all the damn time.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Phoenix Down on February 15, 2011, 09:09:55 pm
I repost this from my impromptu computer diary (names pre-changed), though to be honest I'm not doing this to be helped so much as to give you all your daily laugh.   :P:

Dear Impromptu Computer Diary, today I learned that my life is, in reality, a sitcom.
A very funny one.
I'm the star.
Comedy derives from pain.
It all started around Wednesday of last week.  I mentioned that my birthday was coming up.  Someone else asked exactly when my birthday was (I think it was Nathan), so I told them that it was February the 12, aka this Saturday.  They told me that that was the same as Audrey’s birthday.  I had not previously heard of Audrey, so I did not know who she was.  On Friday, February the 11, there was a nice girl who I did not know the name of.  I asked her who she was, and, by chance, she turned out to be Audrey.  I thought this was interesting, so I wished her a happy birthday, and informed her that her birthday was the same as mine.  Some people in the immediate vicinity took this as a sign of a crush, but I brushed it off, explaining that I would not lie about my birthday.  However, that night I had a dream about Audrey.
My birthday was fantastic.  I saw the seventh Harry Potter movie, which I had been waiting to see for months, and another film playing at the same theatre, which a friend of mine had been nagging me to see for even longer.  I only saw it because by chance it was playing at the same theatre in a way that fulfilled my schedule, but it turned out to be very entertaining regardless.  All during my birthday, I was thinking about how it was Audrey’s birthday too, and within my head I wished her well.  And within my head, she also wished me well that night in another dream.  Alas, only within my head.
Sunday was a boring day, and I cannot blame that on anyone except myself.  I spent most of Sunday fanning out over Harry Potter, not doing my homework, and thinking about Audrey.  By the end of the day, I had become concerned because my homework was still not complete, but I left it to lose points because I wanted to get to sleep earlier.  That night, once again, I had a dream involving Audrey.  Arrangements were made for me to sleep over at a friend’s house on Monday night and Tuesday night, so my father left Monday morning, leaving me to walk to school.
I didn’t mind walking to school, though, and you know why?  Because whenever I started to slow down, I thought “Maybe if I slow down too much, I won’t get to the bus in time and I’ll see Audrey for fifteen minutes less.”  I didn’t even know it was Valentine’s Day until I heard the chatter in the school.  I suppose I should have known that it was Valentine’s Day, since it’s always two days after my birthday, but the only time that I had ever drawn any sort of emotional significance was back when I had just turned eleven-every time before that, I was devoid of romantic thought from my prepubescent status, and every time after that, I was devoid of romantic thought from my disillusionment and, more unflatteringly accurate, my social ineptness.  So it makes sense that I wouldn’t necessarily be shivering in antici... pation for Valentine’s Day to arrive.
But this time, it came as an uplifting shock.  Valentine’s Day was the perfect way to act on my feelings for Audrey.  It made even more sense as I attached significance to her through my birthday, which had occurred two days prior.  I didn’t do anything at first, for History and Science.  In History, I had done my homework on Friday.  In Science, I quickly made up a Science Monday that had never existed.  Between Science and Math, I went to my locker to get my textbook, and there was a Valentine’s Day card there, with a lollipop attached.  My hormone-addled mind instantly assumed that it had come from Audrey, and I consumed the lollipop over the course of Math class.  Math had no homework; I had just completed a test (with a ninety six percent score).
During Lunch, I had initially planned to do my Spanish homework.  I gave up on that, deciding that expressing my feelings, somehow, to Audrey, was more important than that.  So I started by bringing the Valentine I had received to my good friend Crystal, who is very socially intelligent.  I asked for confirmation of identity.  I still am unsure of who it came from; the only thing gleaned from Crystal was that it was not in fact from Audrey.  Undefeated, I went to purchase a single sheet of paper from the DA student store.  They do not sell individual papers, just notebooks.  So I paid them extra-$18.75 extra-to tear out a single page and give me just that.  I plopped down a twenty dollar bill and left.  Totally worth it, I thought.
I made a simple Valentine’s Day card for Audrey.  I think I saw Audrey behind me, reading what I wrote as I turned around, but I ignored it. It could be a hallucination-and besides, I’m trying to get the message across to her eventually, so it doesn’t necessarily matter if she sees me before I put it in her locker.  I then proceeded to look around for Audrey’s locker.  Whenever someone asked me what I was doing, I said “I’m not looking for Audrey’s locker.  Where is it?”  It wasn’t subtle, but I didn’t care.  It was wacky, and I do wacky.  Eventually, when I couldn’t find it, I started operatically singing about my desperate quest.  A constant beat and melody of my improvisation developed on the spot, and it was actually pretty tense.  Eventually, I encountered Audrey.
“Hey, Audrey, I’m not looking for your locker.  Where is it?”
“It’s right over there.”  She pointed a few dozen yards, so I started walking towards it, at a slow but constant pace.  It was at this point that Janet brought things to a screeching halt.
“What are you doing?”
“I’m not looking for Audrey’s locker.  I mean, I’m going that way, but I’m not looking for it.  ...I’m not dropping a message there, or anything.”
“Oh, great, because she has a boyfriend.”  My head started boiling, and after a few seconds I ripped the note (which I had been clutching against my chest since I wrote it) in two, dropped it on the ground, and bashed my head against a nearby locker, three times.  I then started laughing (Laughing Mad, part one) and started walking around.  One group of girls, including Audrey, greeted me.  Audrey said she was sorry, and I cut her off, saying that she didn’t need to be, having done nothing to be sorry for.
The way I cut her off left me with the vague hope that she was going to say that she was sorry that Janet had lied to get rid of me in the misguided belief that Audrey was uninterested in me.  However, she stated that she read the card and thanked me for the part about her birthday.  Yes, it was a joint Birthday/Valentine’s card.  Since I wrote the addition about her birthday after she apparently read it, she must have read it again... ripped up on the floor.  Further, she didn’t say anything about the Valentine’s part, removing credence from my hopeful theory.
I finished my Spanish homework in the few minutes I had left.  So I went to Spanish class and recited the story so far to my Spanish teacher and the few people who had gotten to the room.  She was only really disturbed that I had hit my head against lockers, stating it to be bad for my health.  I was sent to Study Hall to print out an assignment, which, due to my wonderful luck, required me to sit directly next to Audrey during the printing process.
After Spanish, I went to composition.  Once again I recited my story (likely disrupting the lesson).  My composition teacher said that she would use my story as an example for the exercise, but this did not play out.  Further, after I had completed the exercise, Steve called me over and asked me if I knew who Audrey’s boyfriend was.  I said I didn’t, so he pointed at Eddie Smith.  This explained Eddie’s reaction to my story, and he smiled devilishly, so I slowly mouthed the f-word, started laughing again, pointing everywhere, and generally being incoherent (Laughing Mad, part two).  When I returned to my seat, I dropped my head into my keyboard.
“I just started sending an email to no one!”  Steve and Nathan made a joke about Eddie having sex with Audrey, and Eddie laughed along with them.  I certainly would have reacted differently, had she been my girlfriend, but that fits in perfectly with my continuing theory that Eddie is my opposite counterpart-he has political views opposite to me, religious views opposite to me, his demeanor is opposite to me (I'm kind of crazy and outgoing, but ultimately awkward, he's really cold and sarcastic but ultimately popular), he looks just like me, and he spent a year hiatus from school at the same time that I did (the same distance in the opposite direction on the globe).  I formulated a plan to break them up, but I discarded it when Terrence pointed out to me that it wouldn’t work, and I pointed out to myself that this would not be a nice thing to do.  During my walk to Study Hall, I cried out at no one “Universe, are you going to throw any more horrendous luck at me during Study Hall?”
Behind me, Steve (or some such person) shouted “YES”.
“Well, screw you universe!”  So here I am, in study hall, writing to you, Impromptu Computer Diary.  Crystal calls Valentine's Day the International Day Of Heartbreak; I guess I'm part of the festivities.  I could be doing my Spanish homework for Wednesday.  I could be doing my Creative Writing story, which I’m passionate about.  I could even be studying some subject.  But I’m not.  I’m writing to you, Impromptu Computer Diary.  I have one thing left to say to you, Impromptu Computer Diary.
Happy Goddamn Valentine’s Day.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on February 15, 2011, 09:19:04 pm
damn, that is elaborate.

that is S***y, yes. f***ing lame, brother. I feel for you. not gonna talk bullcrap (and again, you say you don't want help). that really is just a sucky piece of life right there.


She didn't have a girlfriend though, so there is that. Happened to me.




twice.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on February 15, 2011, 09:24:04 pm
To be perfectly fair though, you've known her for all of, what, a week?  And talked to her only a handfull of times?  It's a simple little highschool crush.  You'll survive.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Phoenix Down on February 15, 2011, 09:24:56 pm
I know; I recount this situation not because it's highly distressing but because it has so many coincidences piled upon one another that it seems almost fictional.

It's highly distressing as well, but on a superficial, hormonal level.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: martyk on February 15, 2011, 09:28:27 pm
Also, you shouldn't whack your head on things so much.  It's not good for you.

Also, it's nowhere near as endearing or wacky as you might think.  Speaking from experiance as an ex-"wacky guy", don't be overly melodramatic.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on February 15, 2011, 09:40:44 pm
Martky, again you are the smartest and most reasonable person ever.


go ahead. sig that.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Phoenix Down on February 15, 2011, 09:42:14 pm
I must admit that my posting of this here was likely poor judgement.  I suppose that since I wrote this entirely to blow off steam, I assumed "Hey, maybe it'll help others blow off steam too".  Instead, the more logical thing happened, which was that the steam I had blown off condensed on the thing in question and just annoyed everyone else by dripping on their shirts.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on February 15, 2011, 10:08:07 pm
And now we all have wet shirts.

Hmm... Get Little and GD in here and- NOPE Not going through with that.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on February 15, 2011, 10:09:14 pm
Can someone give me the cliffnotes version of this?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on February 15, 2011, 10:12:45 pm
tl;dr: Valentines day sucks and so does my love life AAAARGH

(But seriously, that sucks. I wish I could say I knew what you were feeling, but I've never really felt anything more than lust for people.)

Sorry brah.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Pixxel on February 16, 2011, 01:36:37 am
My Valentines was lovely for once, I got cake :3 among other things.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 16, 2011, 05:02:31 am
Pff, don't act like its some sort achievment Pixxel, your strange western ways attract the waifus like discarded lego bricks attract bare feet at night.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Pixxel on February 16, 2011, 06:09:23 am
Can't you be happy for me for once?  :'(

Now I DO have a personal problem to add to the thread...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 16, 2011, 08:34:45 am
Then my work here is done.

*swings away*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on February 16, 2011, 04:14:40 pm
among other things.
*air thrust*
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cow on February 16, 2011, 07:35:03 pm
among other things.
*air thrust*

 :(

No. You aren't allowed to make innuendos.




Heh heh, in-your-end-o...
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on February 16, 2011, 08:04:38 pm
in-your-end-

...

Oh.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaizer on February 17, 2011, 10:14:22 am
tried to plug a wireless card into my pc, now its not even getting power and I cant see any fried circuits or cut wires  :'(
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on February 21, 2011, 09:08:25 pm
I want to remove a mouse that's hiding under the desk i'm sitting at right now. thoughts?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Kishmond on February 21, 2011, 09:21:22 pm
You could get it out from under there by sticking it with a broom handle or something, but it'll just run off somewhere else.

Ignore it for now and leave up your choice of rodent trap overnight.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor Z on February 21, 2011, 09:37:42 pm
We are talking about squeak-squeak mouse, right?

Not click-click?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Inkling on February 21, 2011, 09:42:17 pm
Set the desk on fire.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on February 21, 2011, 10:03:39 pm
Put a cat under there!

That will work, I'm sure of it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Cobra on February 21, 2011, 10:26:15 pm
All you have to do is turn the crank, which rotates a vertical gear, connected to a horizontal gear. As that gear turns, it pushes an elastic-loaded lever until it snaps back in place, hitting a swinging boot. This causes the boot to kick over a bucket, sending a marble down a zig-zagging incline which feeds into a chute. This leads the marble to hit a vertical pole, at the top of which is an open hand, palm-up, which is supporting a larger ball. The movement of the pole knocks the ball free to fall through a hole in its platform into a bathtub, and then through a hole in the tub onto one end of a seesaw. This launches a diver on the other end into a tub which is on the same base as the barbed pole supporting the mouse cage. The movement of the tub shakes the cage free from the top of the pole and allows it to fall.

Then you shall have your mouse.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on February 22, 2011, 08:58:56 am
Right click -> Delete
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on February 22, 2011, 08:59:58 am
I once told someone to delete something when I meant 'throw it out.'
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Crazen on February 22, 2011, 01:15:31 pm
Put a cat under there!

That will work, I'm sure of it.

tried it already. seriously.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on February 22, 2011, 01:22:58 pm
Put another cat under there!
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Flisch on February 22, 2011, 01:25:05 pm
Put a dog under there.

If you continue like that you'll soon have a zoo under your desk and can make it into a tourist attraction.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: /lurk on February 22, 2011, 02:33:22 pm
Just shoot it. Like, with a gun or something.

Honestly the one time a gun would actually be useful and the Americans don't think of it. In Britain we have to hunt our mice with swords.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on February 22, 2011, 02:37:22 pm
This man tells the truth.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on February 22, 2011, 03:25:55 pm
Just shoot it. Like, with a gun or something.

Honestly the one time a gun would actually be useful and the Americans don't think of it. In Britain we have to hunt our mice with swords.

I thought you had to duel with a doffed white glove and you slap each other with it.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on February 22, 2011, 03:33:24 pm
Gec..what is that abomination in your avatar?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Rysworld on February 22, 2011, 04:32:32 pm
It's an alien race from here at Gamingsteve I think.

Pretty sure it's his.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: gec05 on February 22, 2011, 05:15:00 pm
I think so too.
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Gungnir on February 22, 2011, 06:46:11 pm
Is it...attempting to fornicate with the air?
Title: Re: Personal Problem Discussion Thread
Post by: Didero on February 23, 2011, 08:32:34 am
Is it...attempting to fornicate with the air?