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Offline PatMan33

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #390 on: December 14, 2015, 09:46:09 am »
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #391 on: December 14, 2015, 09:55:35 am »
That's just one of the many, many things I dislike about Trump.  He's not even pretending to be there for anything but himself.  If Trump goes independent, the democrats win, plain and simple.  All it takes is pulling away a few percentage points.  For an actual republican, that would be unacceptable.  But that's not what he is.  He's a spoiled child who is saying that if he doesn't get his way in a game, he's going to break all the toys out of spite.

Same with Ben Carson.  Trump's just there to feed his ego, Carson's just there to sell books and get a radio show.
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #392 on: December 14, 2015, 10:23:07 am »
That's just one of the many, many things I dislike about Trump.  He's not even pretending to be there for anything but himself.  If Trump goes independent, the democrats win, plain and simple.  All it takes is pulling away a few percentage points.  For an actual republican, that would be unacceptable.  But that's not what he is.  He's a spoiled child who is saying that if he doesn't get his way in a game, he's going to break all the toys out of spite.

You're right, it's not a Republican move. Republicans tend to be pro-establishment.

I don't think we're talking about a spoiled brat looking to break all the toys. I think we're looking at a man with business acumen who sees a white house who doesn't know the art of the deal and aims to teach business to politics, one way or the other. This is ultimately a goal he can achieve through the race, whether or not he actually becomes President. The reason why he's willing to throw the race is because becoming President is really secondary, I think, and not what he's set out to do.

It's also worth noting he strongly believes, and the polls agree in this, that he's the only candidate capable of going toe to toe with Clinton. If the Dems win when Trump fails to secure the GOP, it's not like running independently would make Republicans lose the presidency even more. A loss is a loss. And if Trump did act in support of another nominee, everyone knows it would be hollow and meaningless.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #393 on: December 14, 2015, 11:47:09 am »
Don't be a hater!  ;D

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/14/silicon-valley-elites-speak-highly-of-donald-trump-but-only-in-private/

Oh so some people who genuinely think building Rapture would be a good idea support Trump.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #394 on: December 14, 2015, 01:07:56 pm »
Do people not remember that this is the guy that wanted to bring back ****ING TARIFFS.

NO, HE DOES NOT HAVE BUSINESS ACUMEN. THE FACT THAT HE PROPOSED TARIFFS AS A LEGITIMATE ECONOMIC TACTIC MEANS THAT, IN FACT, HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING. AT ALL.

Brought to you in allcaps because you guys apparently have very thick skulls, if you didn't already know this and support Trump in any fashion. Please look up your candidates and what they have done and said, people. That goes for everyone and anyone.

I can understand the logic, on a surface level- we have economic troubles, who better to solve them than a businessman, an entrepreneur even?

A company, however, as I hope you know, operates on a different scale and scope than a nation. Too, one might consider the fact that he had an easier time of building a company than most- the infamous "small loan of one million dollars" clip is overplayed, but still relevant here.

I have to stop typing right now because the idea that people are supporting this man is literally hurting my head. I'm going to go calm down for a bit. This post may be added onto.

Whoever wins the election... It's going to be interesting, at least. Unless Hillary wins. She's boring.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #395 on: December 14, 2015, 01:51:23 pm »
Nobody thinks he's actually going to be a good president, people would just rather have a crazy person than another Bush or Clinton (and that's not crazy).

Hopefully the damage Trump does is irreversible and America has to reboot its entire political system. Maybe it will even be a democracy this time.
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #396 on: December 14, 2015, 02:33:23 pm »
Do people not remember that this is the guy that wanted to bring back ****ING TARIFFS.


Oooh wee, that argument came and went a while ago



/lurk's idea is interesting.

Though, I don't know anyone who doesn't plan on voting, so maybe Bernie's revolution is incoming and the millennials show up? Perhaps our total interconnectivity has finally sparked the idea to actually just vote, too? That's what I secretly am hoping for
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #397 on: December 14, 2015, 02:49:40 pm »
Part of it is probably what lurk said, and they haven't looked around to see that there are options other than Bush, Clinton, and his Trumpness.  There are also people who think Trump would be a good president, and they are crazy.

As far as your friends and peers, it's important to remember that they're probably not representative of the people who are going to vote.  The same definitely goes for the internet.
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #398 on: December 14, 2015, 03:28:17 pm »
Personally I would vote for this Sanders guy. He sounds like a Social Democrat.
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #399 on: December 14, 2015, 03:44:05 pm »
Well, Sanders has said that he wants to move the US towards the model of Scandinavian governments.  Or as he calls himself, a Democratic Socialist.
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #400 on: December 14, 2015, 04:10:51 pm »
If the Dems really wanted to secure that youth vote, you'd think they'd be anti-social.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #401 on: December 14, 2015, 04:35:26 pm »
Hopefully the damage Trump does is irreversible and America has to reboot its entire political system. Maybe it will even be a democracy this time.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #402 on: December 14, 2015, 04:56:02 pm »
Well, Sanders has said that he wants to move the US towards the model of Scandinavian governments.  Or as he calls himself, a Democratic Socialist.

Well the Scandinavian model is build much by Social Democrats. I am not sure how much you all know about Social Democrats. It was a big thing in USA to once (And in fact USA inspired a lot of Scandinavia Social Democrats). But after the red scare socialism turned in to a dirty word.
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #403 on: December 14, 2015, 09:05:50 pm »
The Red Scare was a very bad time in our history and still has us all messed up.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #404 on: December 14, 2015, 10:51:48 pm »
What's that?  Do I hear you sympathizing with the commies, pinko?
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