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Title: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 19, 2008, 02:51:08 pm
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/Aeven/freeunionbanner.png)

There had been harsh times from the members of the Union. What had originally started as a method of an empress to prevent her feats from crumbling, had evolved and grown through the ages. From a loose confederation to harsh communist dictatorships, to liberal fascists to religious zealots, the power this Union could provide was enormous. This is the tale of the ending of the Enlightened Union, the last traditional Union.

Throughout the various forms of the Union, many rulerships had arisen. All had crumbled eventually, due to inner strife. The most recent to fall from power was a military junta known as High Command. They had seized power through a violent coup d'etat, and put down student protests on Vii Deux, the Union capital, when they demanded reforms. The military was mostly under Yunimius command, so the fall of the Yunimius went without bloodshed. King Yunamii of the Yunimius had become a refugee and found refuge on Niho, the capital of the Urshan Province.

High Command soon focussed on bringing the weakened Auyuelcliad Confederacy under its control. Soon after the destruction of a major city, the Confederacy disintegrated and a general named Banaquaq declared High Command rule. The Confederacy had known some internal strife for some years. One of the political leaders, and heir to the dormant throne, Cortan Tesilia II, also fled to Niho, with his generals.

Once the two culturally dominant provinces had been incorporated into this new, unified state, it was possible to annex their former protectorates, the North and South Forthi Republics, which had been driven apart by conflicting ideologies of the former owners, Auyuelcliads and Yunimius. The Northhad been better off because the Yunimius had been more stable prior to relinquishing full control to High Command. This allowed them to seize quite a number of South Forthi worlds.

The Thoons were quickly conquered, with only a small scale battle taking place. The Urshans declared a war upon this new unified Union state, but little battles occurred. The Austians, Arkibals, and Zakraa seceded, but were not declared war upon by High Command, the official reason being they were no use, the actual reason being that High Command coffers were being stressed as it was, and additional fronts wouldn't help their resolve.

A ceasefire was signed with the Urshans after some time, giving birth to what was officially called the Enlightened Republic and Urshan Empire under Single Union, the vast majority of citizens being Yunimius, and Urshans having no say in Union politics. Borders were closed, and agreements were made that all rebels be sent to High Command justice.

After some ten years, High Command tried a new form of governing this new unified Enlightened Republic, and a new Parliament was created, and elections were held. It looked like a democracy, but only a party with junta approval could provide a prime-minister. Castor the Thoon won the first election with his personal party, and proved popular. After Castor's two terms were up, the political climate had changed, and a political stream opposing the junta was seemingly going to win the elections. The junta intervened, and this started a civil uprising.

The Urshans started to openly back resistance movements again, to much anger of High Command. In the Enlightened Republic, a popular movement under Jalene Martó gained a lot of support, and they managed to gain control of the government buildings on Vii Deux, and raised the new flag was raised over Parliament. High Command rule was being overthrown, and the Free Union was declared. The Remnant of High Command retreated.



Within some weeks, a provisional parliament using the unified structure created by High Command had been created, and invitations to expelled members were extended.

Soon, delegates could arrive, and the Free Union's future would be determined.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 20, 2008, 04:11:36 am
  The emperor had dispatched Mai-thaen, the head of relations across the empire from his own personal retinue to deal with the negotiations on vii-deux, Mai had been an open opponent to H.C during it's reign and, although he was a high priority target, he still made many public appearances at southern resistance movements and had a massive scar of slightly lighter green and more stretched flesh across the left hand side of his face from a near miss of a H.C assassin amongst the crowds of one of his rallies. He arrived in traditional arkibal noble style, landing gracefully in his sapphire blue ship, Arkibal in design of course know as some of the best contruction this side of the galactic central rim. He dismounted head of a small group of soldiers, carrying ceremonial staff rifles, but still of course charged and ready to fire. Mai himself wore an emerald cape, made of a shimmering material with a similar texture to velvet and the most ornate of the charcterstic eye masks of the Akirbals. He made his way down the central isle towards the government building on vii deux, well aware he was the first delegate to arrive.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 20, 2008, 09:39:05 am
The Austian Systems had little choice but to send a Delegate, their planets and army was crumbling, while the population was happy for the freedom they gained after the Theocrats were exiled, they were starving and lived in near ruins. If the Austians wished to get back on their feet, they'd have to re-join the union, at least then they stood chance of getting any trade or protection from pirates. They still held considerable colonies in the Former Pirate owned space, if the Exports out of the union had to coninue, the Austians would have to give permission for ships to pass through thier Colonies.

The Grand General himself went to Vii Deux, assigned with a small bodyguard of his most Super-Elite Marines, all of them covered head-to-toe in Super Suit. The General wore similar uniforms, after the Austians left the union, HC felt that they had betrayed them. The only competant ruler Austa had ever had couldn't fall because of some mad HC Assasian. He had left his advisors in charge, he did not trust them fully, but all of them had served against the Theocrats, one of which took part in the Austa Greater mutiny. The worst they could do is mix up the patrol sceduals.

Hearing that the Arkribal Delegate had arived some time ago, he quickly assemlbed a marching Ceromony, two banners were held up in the formation, the Flag of the Free Union, and one of the Austian Systems.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 20, 2008, 09:43:22 am
// The Eyecon have heard about the breakup of the union, and we hoped if the invitation for the Enlightened Union could carry over to the Libera Unio/
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 20, 2008, 10:24:33 am
Heavy Loads:
When the Urshan delegation arrived at Vii for the meeting many dark rumors started to spread. It's leaders and reprsentors once sworn enemies and now great friends with a common goal adviser Yoa and emperor Daniyu were loaded figures in union poltics who were known for better and for worse. Although known for their great deeds on each on their own, although they single handedly leaded the reforms that allowed all the billions of refugees to live a peaceful life in the not-so-urshan empire far from their troubled H.C occupied homes, they were still the ones to negotiate with hated dictatorship of the H.C something the public won't easily forget.

And so as the local crew started to unpack the heavy loads the great Urshan delegation brought, as still the Urshan empire was de-facto the greatest power in the union clusters, two figures found themselves staring from outside their window with many mixed feelings and desperation hoping to continue their struggle for true Independence and the wellbeing of each member of the union.
Amusingly it was Daniyu the now 19 years old Emperor who said to his adviser "It is time to end it all, and let those whose' minds were not corrupted by all these wars, from all races and factions, to form the new world we were all dreaming on for hundreds of years of hatered...".
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 20, 2008, 10:26:09 am
// The Eyecon are invited to attend this meeting. We remember how unfortunate everything went with your old invitation. //
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 20, 2008, 10:27:48 am
//We will be there in a few hours. Our system is relatively far away.//
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 20, 2008, 10:34:14 am
King Yunamii had been travelling to Vii Deux in a public transport passenger carrier, with his son, the Crown Prince Maîre. They had been to Ulis the last couple of months, reasserting their personal estates. They had done little to reestablish the kingdom. They wanted to see if they would even be needed as heads of state, for it depended on what happened at Vii Deux. Maîre had grown into a respectable man the last couple of years, and was father to to children.

Yunamii realised how hated the Yunimius had become in some areas, where they had downright replaced the local population.

_____________________________________________

Once they had landed on Vii Deux, they went to what had once been Nihiili Manor in the Unity District. They found that it had been used for strange, classy parties by the generals. Still, it was liveable once power was restored.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 20, 2008, 10:46:50 am
The old Council of The Wise had died, to be replaced by their followers.

The Campian Wise, Arkus, had been planning discussing matters with the Solian Wise, Ihatme. She was the first female Eyecon to embrace the Enlightement. Ihatme did not want to form a new alliance. She was cynical after the last union broke down before they could even join. Arkus reassured her that everything was fine, as the collapse of the Enlightened Union was a fluke.

Meanwhile, the Argian Wise, Uthal, was dining with his wife. He was pondering about his duty. Because he, as the Argian Wise, was Leader of Union, he would have to participate with the debate more then the others. He heard the familiar sound of travelling through the worm-hole. They would be there in a few hours.

Hours passed, and the noise had stopped. They had arrived.


*Landing on Vii Deux in 5 minutes*

They arrived. The three Wise gathered their diplomats and started discussing. They had met war with their greatest nemesis the Yraians in the 10 years the Enlightened Union crumbled, and hoped that the new union would help them.

A soft thud was heard as they finally arrived.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Josasa on September 20, 2008, 11:25:03 am
Separation Problems
The Forthi race had been divided for a great expanse of time, beginning with the religious extremism takeover and continuing with the breakup into North and South. Even now three different parties were vying for control over the corpse the had once been the Forthi Delegation.

The NFD had claims backed by the now nonexistent HC, Ninel, the leader of a rebel faction, had support from a huge section of the Forthi population, and Centauri had historical claims that stretched far back through time. As a result, all three parties sent representatives to the large upcoming meeting.

Ninel and his group of ambassadors arrived in a smaller ship, donated to him by a wealthy supporter of the cause. They were the first to arrive of the three Forthi parties and they made sure everyone knew of it.

The large group of representatives from Centauri arrived second, landing in magnificent ships and garbed in lavish robes that told of their great economic power. They could very well take over the former Forthi lands and hold them if they deemed it worth the expense.

The last of the Forthi group were representatives from the NFD. They arrived dressed in dark black robes. Their lesser numbers showed that they were truly a lost cause. They were being torn apart from the inside.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 20, 2008, 12:12:22 pm
Equality among the Enlightened? A dream of the past:
What a pathetic sight it was when the Thoonish delegation landed. What was left of Thoon nationalism was so little they practiclly represented no one, a race that was almost destroyed in a horrible genocide only to lift it's head up high for a few years and then to be raped and crushed again by the secular Yunamiis and the H.C.. Yes Castor was a Thoon as all Thoons proudly say as they state their names, but in truth no Thoon had real power since well... almost ever.
The story of Thoonish nationalism from the beginning was a funny one in a very sad way. Thoons never wanted their own state, it was practiclly forced on them. And then when finally their nation blossomed it was crushed. The horrible fact was never a single Thoonish government never survived more than 15 years...

The Thoon delegation was built mainly out of Thoon officials that held high ranks in the H.C. due to good connections and socialising with the Yunamii aristocracy that they despised so much. These men women were the only "noble" Thoons that could be found. Still the delegation was not leaded by those powerful Thoons, nor by the wealthy Thoon merchants that snack a chair in hoping to get more power when the union will be formed. It was leaded by a small group of true Thoon nationalist, those that escaped to the Urshan Empire before all those horrors began still holding the true values of their scientist ancestors, still believing in true equality and socialisms.

And so amusingly if one wanted to spot the true leaders of the delegation he was not to seek them in the beautiful wexxian-steel based ships that landed first, but it the chipper Urshan models that landed in the poor neighbourhoods nearby.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 20, 2008, 12:44:11 pm
The Council of The Wise had seen strange creatures on their way. They had seen them before 10 years ago, on the news, but they couldn't remember their name. They had also seen various other vaguely familiar species.

They would discover who they were soon enough.



((When is the actual debate going to start? Once everyone has arrived?))
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 20, 2008, 12:44:53 pm
((Where are we all going anyway?))
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Josasa on September 20, 2008, 01:32:24 pm
The Stage
Vii Deux had one been a grand planet, probably one of the greatest known to exist, but that had changed in recent years. The HC caused onslaught had taken many lives and destroyed the morale of the people. The war against the rebellious factions and outside forces had strained the economy. Many were poor and weak.

But through all this the Imperial Stadium had survived. Named after the many different royalty found throughout the Union races, it had been constructed several years after the completion of Vii Deux. Over a billion people had assembled to see the grand opening while several billion more watched it from screens throughout the galaxy.

Throughout its existence it had been used for a variety of things, from huge athletic events, to the gathering of political parties, to the platform of several historic speeches. Now it would serve as the stage on which the many Union races would come together to decide what the next step would be.

The Imperial Stadium sat patiently as it awaited the delegates arrival.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 20, 2008, 01:36:44 pm
((Haha, you're a lifesaver))

The Wise arrived at the Stage, and took a seat. There were many species that were invited to the debate. Everyone was waiting for the starting speech to begin.

((We are officially seated))
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 20, 2008, 01:44:31 pm
   A second Akibal ship was landing, the personal diplomatic advisors from the system governors across the empire were arriving, this ship was larger but less ornate, there were more gaurds acompanying this ship aswell, dressed in varied uniforms but all carrying a standard pattern rifle, the senators were dressed in buisness attire and Mai turned from his disscussion with one of urshan party and watched them approach from the lobby of the imperial stadium. He saw races such as the thoons and Yunimius, he felt almost glad that his own empire had faired so well through the war, but he felt sad however at the strife, he knew one of the approaching party was a Yunimius, he'd escaped from poverty and oppression in his home empire and forged a career in the government as to make a diffrence to what happened in the future of this union, he also knew the racism he'd suffered on his climb to the top. However Mai also remebered a conversation he'd had with him a week earlier where he'd told him how proud he was about being able to come here today. He smiled as he greeted them. 
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 20, 2008, 01:45:16 pm
The Austian Delegated arived at the stadium, a landmark in the Union, and even whole Galaxy. The Grand General and his Guard entered the large building, one of the first to arive. In the staduim was a large table, floating above was a hologram of Union owned Space, where the Austian, Arkibal, Zaakra and Urshan space would be was just gaps, or simply censored with a blue mist. This was the first time an Austian Offical was ever inside the Stadium, they were too busy with their own Civil war.

The General Sat down at the Chair labeled "Austian Delegate", His guard assumed formation around the perimetre of the Stadium. What happened within the next few hours would effect his entire race.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 20, 2008, 01:51:01 pm
Having such a large pary the Arkibals took up seating in a balcony, Mai took up his seat at the forefront and his retinue around him, althouigh he would be the one to speak, gaurds stood along the ends of the rows and outside, mai stood up and lent on the balcony wall, he had an exellent view of new arrivals from here.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 20, 2008, 02:02:23 pm
Jalene Martó had been the de facto prime minister of the Transitional Republic. A lot of stability had been restored thanks to her wise emergency policies.

The Imperial Stadium had been cleaned for this occasion, and it was decorated in a festive manner with many Free Union banners. Jalene Martó had asked the various leaders to meet her in private first.

// Leaders of the most esteemed races, I invite you all to attend a small meeting in the Parliamentary building, so we can decide how this public hearing in the Stadium will proceed. //
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 20, 2008, 02:08:19 pm
The General rose from his Seat, and his guard formed up in order behind him, he quickly made his way to the meeting place, the messgage had only just reached him as he had sat down on the table. Trying to look as impressive as he could, the Guard marched in a collumn, still holding up their banners.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 20, 2008, 02:11:52 pm
Mai watched as a few more general staff of the stadium walked in, a few yunimius an urshan, an aluycliad. He heard the announcement and turned quickly towards the door and walked out towards the parlimentary building ushering a few gaurds along as he went. He got down the stairs and could see the others approching aswell, he walked into a small room in the tower housing the parlimentary building and waited for Jalene to arrive. he rufused to sit as he felt more comfortable standing he could see the austian general before him sitting. He put on his obviously leart but still quite good astian accent and said in the generals home lanquage, "so the free union, what do you think of that".
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 20, 2008, 02:16:38 pm
The General noticed Mai, he answered, in fluent Arkribal "I don't really know, we've been through about five different Unions already, each one trying to Grant more rights and freedom than the other." His helmet made his voice sound as if he were speaking through a radio.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 20, 2008, 02:20:28 pm
Mai decided to speak in his own lanquage now, "i doubt this union can promise anything beyond the end of a war today, you know my brother was killed fighting against soldiers under my best friends command, how can a union regain it's self from a war like that."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 20, 2008, 02:21:25 pm
Young Emperor Daniyu looked troubled. He whispered a few words in the ear of adviser Yoa and Yoa nodded.

Yoa: "We must be careful, this is starting to become a show and not a diplomatic meeting... If true solution would be made, and there are many serious problems to attend to, we must calm down all this public mess. Shows could be shown to the public, carefully chosen parts, but before all great problems must be discussed in closed doors and finally when we will make decisions we shall share them and the process that they were made in with the public. Do you agree?"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 20, 2008, 02:23:39 pm
"I've been fighting a War like that since we were called the 'New Union'. As much as you are a reasonable Arkribal, none of the union leaders have paid any attention to our suffering beyond casualy promissing us aid. Hell, our whole System would be in flames if we had not Split"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 20, 2008, 02:31:53 pm
Mai looked at the genral
"we had problems crossing the southern gulf of the high command, unfortunately the emperor felt it unwise to act for anyone outside of our own juristiction, it was a time of great suspicion for us"
he then looked towards the Daniyu makiing sure to speak to him and not his advisor
"you are young, you are ambitious and i can see you are wise for your age. Alas we must not tell the public our problems, we can do what we can to raise moral but for today we need to make sure of the future of our races governments working together before we can make any grand plans, polotics is a harsh buisness. We do not wish to make front but rather make ammends."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 20, 2008, 02:36:57 pm
"We needed help long before High Command took over" said the General Coldy.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 20, 2008, 02:39:18 pm
Mai saw the general becoming hostile, "lets not start this now, this is a meeting of union".
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 20, 2008, 02:46:03 pm
Daniyu spoke quietly: "You have said wise words Mai. Do we all agree about this as a starting terms for these talks?".
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 20, 2008, 02:48:25 pm
"it's good that we have agreed this even before our host has ariived"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 20, 2008, 02:48:55 pm
Mai saw the general becoming hostile, "lets not start this now, this is a meeting of union".

The General decided that showing his race as being arguementative and hostile was not worth it for taking his anger out on an allied delegate. "I appoligise, my race's problems are putting me on the edge."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Josasa on September 20, 2008, 03:22:31 pm
Ninel and his group had watched the small exchange of words while keeping to themselves. Across the table sat the NFD in a similar fashion, eying their rivals. Centauri sat off in a corner. Everyone knew the reason they were here. They called for separation from the Union altogether. They wouldn't be getting involved in the petty rivalries within the Union.

When there was a break in the conversation Ninel took his chance and spoke up.
"I'm not sure how many of you actually realize this, but the one true reason that the Union has been divided and reborn so many times is due to the lack of a strong government that connects all races. The power of the Union has easily been stolen by the monarchies and fascist parties of the past because there has never really been anything in the way to stop them. The only system that can actually unify this pathetic union is an actual democracy where the people of the many nations decide what is best for them. Any other system will fall flat on its face as it has done repeatedly so for the past several generations. If this union is to succeed we need unification under one powerful government and nothing else. Can any of you see this?"

As soon as Ninel has stopped talking the representative stood up and began yelling.
"This is nonsense! The Union has stood as a beacon of light for billions of beings around the galaxy! We are the city on the hill, the thing that has saved billions of lives and will continue to save billions of lives if we continue on our course. We must rebuild! Kill those that have betrayed us and become the greatest power that this galaxy has ever seen!"

He blatantly stared at the Austian and Arkibal representatives when he mentioned the killing of traitors.

The Centauri representatives continued to sit in the corner, saying nothing.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 20, 2008, 03:34:59 pm
(As it happens, the Austian Delegate is wearing a standard UBAR-LEET SUPAH SUIT that the entire freaking Austian Army uses ;D)

"A traitor oppresses his own people, a traitor slaughters millions. I have done neither of those things and do not plan to. I cannot say the same of some inside the Union."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 20, 2008, 04:22:51 pm
Daniyu:
"Again with the Democratic argument! I'm am sick of this... Learn to respect others and keep your opinions to yourself. I'm sorry... but I'm a monarch and I'm proud of it. My dinesty has ruled my people and helped yours for centuries. We sons of Nihon were always the only ones that never fell to corruption when most of your rulers bashed each other and treated their people like pions. How dare you say monarchs were the cause of fall? The truth is you foolish democrats are the ones that allowed problamtic factions like the REDSTAR to rise with your foolish party system...

You know what I think? You are right, the reason the union crushed was that it never had a central government. We strived to become one yet stayed separate. We always said this was a union not an alliance yet beside unified law and trade we were an alliance in every way. It is time to decide, will our races be united under a union, a single government? Or will we all take our separate ways and call this an alliance and end these battles for unity once and for all? I think it is clear to us our choices are rather limited and now that our races are so mixed up in one beautiful culture the only true option is to be truly united. The way of government the central union government will have? This is secondary and will be discussed after an agreement of true unity will be made."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Josasa on September 20, 2008, 05:20:37 pm
Ninel stared at his counterpart. When his outburst was done he listened to the Urshan speak his thoughts.
"Well i'm glad we can agree on one thing. But what system would you propose be the binding force that holds our many races together? Should we put a monarch in power? How would that work? Absolute power corrupts absolutely as has been stated by many before us. You, Urshan, may be an exception to that rule, but other races certainly are not. This has been illustrated over the past generations many times. To ignore this lesson in history would be one of the greatest mistakes ever made."


Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 20, 2008, 05:45:14 pm
"You ask a good question whose answer I'm not sure of. No matter what government will be the one to rule the union it will surely be too powerful... I think the best balance would be therefore a council of rulers and not a single one. How this council will gain their sits... again I think a balance between two council one which will be chosen in technocratic ways and the other that will be chosen democratically."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 21, 2008, 02:39:10 am
"It's not as simple as black and white, we have to strike a balance between the power granted to our union and the power granted to our individual states."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 21, 2008, 05:49:07 am
Yunamii and Martó were both present at this meeting, but Yunamii was more a second voice than Martó.

Martó spoke. "While my movement has brought down the junta, I believe their original intentions were good. They unified the state fully, and it continues to be very stable. Hell, we have a beautiful Parliamentary building.

What I would suggest is a new united nation known as the Free Empire, a democratic institution with a figurehead emperor who is elected for life."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 21, 2008, 06:44:20 am
The Council of The Wise looked at the argueing Arkibals, Yunimi and Urshan. They knew about the past problems, but if a new union was to be formed, arguements over the past must be set aside.

Ihatme started speaking:
"Gentlemen, why can we not make a Senate? The wisest of every race come together to discuss matters for the better of the Union. We could even incorporate democratic bases by letting the Senate be chosen by the people. A balance is provided over the power of the union and invidual states."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 21, 2008, 08:31:46 am
Yoa: "The problem is that whenever a race had a representor each of these represntors only thought of the better good of it's people instead of the better good of the union. I say that new provnices must be made, created randomly and changed over time and each including more than one race in every province. Great double spirits! fact is that most of our cities are multi-racial. Both the Urshan Empire since the great migration and most former H.C worlds are mixed raced except for the eltist worlds the Yunimui elitw took for themselves. Those world could be changed easily by allowing new settlement options for all other races in these worlds and every world in the union. Finally this is the only way to truely make us all as one.

But I disagree with the idea of democracy. I'm a true follower of the technocratic ways. I believe the best should be the ones to govern, not those the foolish masses choose by reputation and good looks. I still support the idea my lord Emperor Daniyu suggested that the ruling class would be made both of a technoratic council that will be chosen by merit and by a democratic council to keep those rulers in line and making sure they do what's best for the needs of the public. This is the perfect balance."

Daniyu: "And for us former monarchs? We shall stay symboles known for our legacy, but de facto will have very little official political power. That is what I think is fair, do you agree?"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 21, 2008, 08:40:21 am
Yunamii saw this as his chance to have his say.

"I do not care for whether I have a ruling function in whatever solution arises. I consider my House a symbol of the Yunimius people, which sadly also includes a great number of those who hunger for power.

And Daniyu, I fear you give Yoa too much power. You are the leader of the Urshans, so start acting like it."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 21, 2008, 08:41:52 am
"I agree with Delegate Yoa, the people know little of what is good for the Union, only of for what is good for themselves. But we cannot dis-regard their say completely. The rulers of the States should be competant at the very least"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 21, 2008, 08:47:31 am
"I disagree, the people are never those who start wars. It's those who manipulate thoughts. As long as corruption stays clear, people know what's best for the Union." Uthal swiftly answered.


"Uthal has a point, although not too much power may be given to the people." answered Arkus.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 21, 2008, 08:52:03 am
"The people never start wars, correct, but they vote for the men who start them. Corruption is never required if you have a few good looking policies and appeal to the Majority. I'd love for there to be a perfect democracy, but there never will be one, as long as a vast majority, even if they are mistaken, vote for a bad candidate, then the decromatic system has failed."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 21, 2008, 08:53:50 am
Daniyu: "Wise words Austian friend. Especially now when the masses are inflamed we cannot just let them decide what's best for them for this will cause more separation and more wars. When peace will be restored completely only then the power of the people could be executed to the fullest as a power equal to those of merit and skill. I unlike Yoa do believe the people are wise and good by nature, still this generation is corrupted by so many lies... And Yunamii old friend, I know you for a long time and you know me since I was a mere 4 years old with the duties of hundreds of Urshans. You also know this Urshan next to me, my beloved adviser Yoa. He is far from perfect, he fought against me when I just came to power and he endnagred the continuation of my lineage. Still he was chosen by my father who left us to another plain and still haven't returned as the best Urshan for the job, and as we allied against the Rise fanatics and false prophets I learned to know him as an extremely wise and carring Urshan. Though I am the Emperor of the Urshan people and vast Urshan Empire he is still to be respected as second in command and a true leader of both my and your exile people. I understand you fear his inttenions but please if you trust me, trust him as well".
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 21, 2008, 08:56:13 am
Uthal:
"How should we choose the members of the Senate then? As we clearly can't give all the power to one person."


Arkus:
"I agree with you Daniyu. The masses are angered with the recent wars, we are new to this, but that we can understand."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 21, 2008, 09:05:20 am
"I believe that Yoa's words are true, a council of the best rulers from each race, while another council chosen by the people to supervise their descisions. That way, the people may have their say, but we, the true rulers of the Union, can guide ourselves down the right path. While in the future, when there isa peace, a true democracy can form, but right now, the populace's beliefs are fueled by lies and propaganda. My people would, no offence to Delegate Daniyu and Delegate Yunamii, would vote out any government ruled by a single man. I myself feel like a hypocrite taking control of our planet and colonies, but it is the only way to stop my race from falling to ruin."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 21, 2008, 09:09:05 am
Uthal: "The Austian Delegate speaks wise, I only hope to see this wisdom transferred into actions."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 21, 2008, 09:16:24 am
"I am afraid that my actions include only defence and rationing. My race is weak, if I had not pulled out of the war, I would have no army to protect my systems from raiders. While our standard troop are among the most elite and well trained in the Union, our entire army is what most races would call a raiding force. The man who leads my race afterwads would achieve far greater deeds then I would. My only chance of survival is this Union, because of the trade and protect we would gain, in case of a Pirate invasion or, at the very worst, the Theocrats return. And, if we cannot decide on a true Government, we will fall once more."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 21, 2008, 09:22:53 am
"I belive my emperor would support the idea of a senate, rulers should be picked by individual empires but under a standard method across the empire, however completely disregarding democracy altogether is a bad idea, it can only lead to more corruption. I suggest the method be a pannel of advisors picked randomly from a sector of the population that conform to certain qualificatins that make them viable to choose wisely, say a number roughly 1% of the total population is choosen and votes.

And my Austian friends i'm sure that that besides the matter at hand we could easily integrate you into a larger empire for a short time to support your economic growth until you are ready to be independant again and spread your troops into regiments across the union."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 21, 2008, 09:50:15 am
"Then we have agreed, unless the other Delegates have words of arguement, we should discuss different matters. We need to re-claim old settlements and re-build worlds and economies crippled by the HC."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 21, 2008, 09:52:00 am
then we should make our way out into the arena and announce it to the union.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 21, 2008, 10:47:05 am
Ihatme:

"Great idea gentlemen, shall we proceed to the Stage?"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 21, 2008, 11:49:02 am
Daniyu: "I have only one problem in that you said Arkibal friend, you speak of empires. Empires must be a thing of the past, all private imperial armies bust me disband for the creation of a unified army. All laws must be united together to create a unified law. All other forms of government must dissapear before the new government we speak of will form.

But first I would like to hear the opinions of others. What do you think Yunamii my friend? And so the Forthi approve our ideas?"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 21, 2008, 01:30:21 pm
"The Arkibal Empire is not and will never be ready to completely abandon it's sovreignty, i'm afraid that if this is the only course of action you can see then we must disagree."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 21, 2008, 02:25:49 pm
Jalene Martó stepped up. She eyed the delegates.

"I disagree with most of what has been said. The Parliament here would work excellently. It has worked under High Command, but now no one would spy upon it.

Also, the idea of racial segregation is one of the past. Choosing from a race is wrong. Choosing a party would work much more efficiently. The winning party must form a coalition, and provide a prime minister. The Parliament, which is chosen on ideology, not race, would then choose a ceremonial President.

OOC: This is similar to Germany's federal politics.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Josasa on September 21, 2008, 05:10:59 pm
Ninel had let the others speak their opinions before he cut in to the conversation.

"The most important thing that we must do is create a legal document, a constitution of sorts, that guarantees the specific rights of each and every individual within the Union. This must be a top priority to ensure that no being is ever mistreated or discriminated against. Along with this document must be a panel of councilors, chosen from the greatest and most honorable lawmen from within the Union. Race should never be an issue here.

If we are to truly unify under a single government then i agree with Daniyu. There must no longer be the states that have ties to race. The entire point of the Union was to bring together the many great races. In reality the Union has only been a glorified alliance system. We must redraw the borders of provinces, vanquish the separate militaries, and leave behind the tyranny of one-being rulers. Instead of us deciding which government system this Union should use, why not let the people?

I know you despise this Urshan, but in this election there are no candidates, no political parties. The government's job is to serve the people. Let them decide."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 22, 2008, 07:52:07 am
Daniyu shook his head.

"Generally I agree. I was a servant of the people for all of my ruling, take care of all of those abandoned by the H.C. and letting them decide how the Urshan Empire would look like. I put down self gain for me and my race in the behalf of the better good for all the citizens no matter their race of religion.

But still the great amount of masses lies beyond my borders, in the sister nation the former H.C. These masses were lied to in their masses, the elitists live in their close little worlds while the rest of the mostly none Yunimui population were cast aside and thrown away from their homes. What do you think they will vote for now? Another government that will rule them all which will remind them of the former H.C? Of course not, they will want separation, and from separation more wars will come. We must decide what's best for the people, and only when they will be truly free they could decide what's best for them."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 22, 2008, 08:47:14 am
"I have said nothing of single race empires and one man leaders, my own empire has a large counsel of rulers, one of witch i am, the emperor is merely a head of state and has been awarded such a title upon his own merit, there is no need to break down national borders and disband imperial armies, the union cannot exercise full control of nations proceedings, especially not at such a time, i believe it would do the people of our union no good to see their own national identties broke down. On the subject of parties chosen by race, only 50% of our empire is an Arkibal populace, and i know although it still may be the majority there is a much lesser percentage of urshans currently in their empire. Our nations have alrady divided themsleves very much into ideologies of the people."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 22, 2008, 10:43:53 am
"The five Founders have been united for so long unifying them and abolished the former racial states seems the only sane option. We realise this will seem very shocking to some."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Mr. Consideration on September 22, 2008, 10:59:30 am
An Urshan ship, today carrying the CSDUA markings, lands slowly on Vii Duex; a vessel that's seen better days.
Tussad disembarks, angrily, and rushes away with his entourage. Cortan disembarks later with his own entourage, looking saddened.

Both leaders greet with members of their delegation who arrived early, and briefly review the debate at hand. Tussad scowls at Cortan, and Cortan smiles sadly. Tussad moves forward to speak, the antagonism disappearing in a second to be replaced with the confident expression of a true trasformismo leader...

"My friend Cortan and I have had much to debate on the trip here! We agreed, simply, that we would concentrate on a united platform to speak for The Confederacy, with clearly-defined goals.

Our goal is a single, united Union parliament. There will be no representatives of state; nor interference by local rulers. Governors shall be elected from the province. Parties elected by general vote; power given by a mandate from the people! I talk to you of absolute unification, into a single, representative state.

You speak of the good of the Union, but what good has it really been? A loose alliance of autocrats and Imperialists squabbling for power under the pretence of unity. How many wars have been fought for this Union, within this Union? This 'Union', which considers itself a defender of the weak, has been guilt of genocide. All this Union is is a sham by which rulers can play games with beings for power.

We've created a Union. Now, my friends, my enemies, we must create Unionists. One State, one people, to sit astride this galaxy, for justice, for equality, for freedom!

An end to poverty; an end to struggle, an end to war. This is within our grasp.

I speak not to the assembled tyrants and fools, I speak to the people of this Union. I speak to every being. We could have it all. Do you not tire of not being represented? Of being dragged off to fight these fool's wars? This, my friends, is the turning point. This is your chance. When the histories record the day death died; the day war was conquered, the day poverty was bankrupt; the day starvation rotted away; the day intolerance ceased to be tolerated.....They will say it began today.

We could have it all, friends. If these relics need to die, then let them die."


Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 22, 2008, 12:53:20 pm
"as it seems the vote is stacked againt us, although it may seem brash , i must act in the best intrests of my own empire, and the will of the emperor, we have prospered as and independant state, and can continue to do so, we cannot accept our part of this greater union and single state, i can only offer our empire as a faithful ally"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: BioCat on September 22, 2008, 01:47:06 pm
If his raising wasn't so rigid and rough figthing since the cradle Emperor Daniyu would probably shed a tear to the words of Tussad.

"Bravo... Bravo... I'm shocked this has come to this yet in a way it makes so much sense. I was sure my ideas of true unity would be declined as they were so many times in the past when others suggested them. I find it funny that I, the representative of the Urshan race that since the beginning kept itself apart from all others always divding ourselves from the union when a great new party came to rule, am the one that lead this idea of unity. And I was truly shocked to see so many of my brethren leaders came with this idea at the same time and presented it to our council as well. It was a probably a need greater than I realised.

I'm proud to say that if indeed most factions that are currently ruling the union will agree to this I really suspect this new reform might end all internal wars forever. For some of us might not remember but this union wasn't created really to fight a common enemy like many alliances form, nor because we all shared any ideologies nor faith. In truth in the beginning we were all so divide and couldn't be more diffrent in culture and government. This union was formed to end all wars between ourselves when the five former races of the union after many bloody battles with each other decided to end their conflicts by uniting. Because we were so diffrent when united our union was doomed since the beginning for countless endless internal wars, it was the only possible way things could have happened. Now, things are different. Now we are truly one. After Urshan fought side to side with Forthis, After Thoons found themselves among the Yunimui elite, after Auyuelcliads Regs Arkibals Austians and many others found themselves sharing the same planets fighting against more Regs and Arkibals and Austians and Urshans... how can we say we are different?

Brothers we are one!

If this unity will indeed be created we could send a new message to the galaxy: "races so diffrent, so full of hate towards each other, can drop their weapons and become brothers. Our endless wars were our sacrifice for the rest who would like to join us. We learned through war what we must teach the rest through peace. This union is the most powerful faction that ever risen in our known galaxy! We have banished threats, overthrown many governments, and worked together as a massive galactic unit. We have fought together against common enemies many times, but foolishly some of the times they were truly our brothers. Do you remember the Wexxians? They shed a tear from their eye cooling systems thinking we were truly united when they left, they thought us they taught the ways of peace and tranquility will come to this place. Inded they were, and they were wrong. But now tens of years later lets make them proud."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 22, 2008, 01:59:46 pm
"Wise words, Emperor. It is time our differances were set aside. How can we call ourselves a union, if we are not truely united?" said General, with several of his guard nodding in agreement.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 22, 2008, 02:23:44 pm
((I guess nobody noticed my whole thing about not being part of the union if thats what you were going to do))
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Josasa on September 22, 2008, 05:08:28 pm
"It is truly a grand day when we can relapse our separate powers into one greater and unified entity. I am proud to be a part of this history."

At this Ninel stood up and bowed to his counterparts, turning to each and every one.

"But now for the more specific matters. We must create this new government, to the best of our abilities..."

The NFD representative had endured enough.

"You are all ignorant fools! Do you truly think that this will actually work? The people will not stand for it and will surely rise up and revolt against the new government! This will just plunge us into another deep war which we may not be able to survive. Already we are weak from all the destruction. Now is not the time for radical progression, we must regroup, not as one, but as separate states..."

The representative looked around the room. No one but the Arkibal representative seemed to agree with him. Even then it wasn't total agreement.

"I see... i seem to have stumbled upon a room of dreamers."

With that the representative and his group of followers walked out of the room, leaving behind the meeting. An awkward silence filled the room. It was soon filled with the voice of Ninel.

"Peace. On matters more specific, how should we set up this new government?

I believe a good start would be with a document guaranteeing rights to the individuals of the state. Without this we will have no support from the many different races, however alike they may be. We must guarantee the main freedoms, such as speech, religion, property, press, assembly... all those needed to allow some power from the people. And of course some presiding court that ensures these are carried out as well as to make clear the uncertainties."

Ninel waited for the opinions on his system.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Mr. Consideration on September 23, 2008, 01:21:38 am
"I am glad the honoured representatives of the Forthi race agree with me. The New Forthi Declaration is clearly more interested in it's personal benefit, rather than the benefit of life as a whole.

I agree. A Union Constitution must be set up,  parties must be formed, an election must be held!"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 23, 2008, 09:40:55 am
The new found stability with the presence of so many important persons was the cause of quite a few new Yunimius clubs opening up trhough the Vii Deux districts.

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Martó and Yunamii had been listening closely, and had come up with a single sentence.

"When we have forged the beginning of our new society, we must rise to the challenge and declare the first Galactic Republic!"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on September 24, 2008, 09:13:01 am
"As for our role in this republic, we could offer a legion of troops to be added to the republic forces, and would request a few seats in the parliment, without voting rights of course as we are not a constituency of it, but to keep relations open with you."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 24, 2008, 09:17:26 am
Uthal:
"So, friends, what can we do for this union?"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Mr. Consideration on September 24, 2008, 12:02:31 pm
Uthal:
"So, friends, what can we do for this union?"

"You can join it; bring your state into the New People's Galactic Republic!

Our proposal for a Governmental system is thus:

President
  -Leader of the Largest party in the People's Parliament. His power shall be given by mandate from the people, through popular election.
  -Can create laws which shall then go through the Parliament, and be voted upon. They must need 50% Acceptance to be successful.

Custodian-Elect
  -Three beings, elected separately from Parliamentary elections, that work to make sure the President keeps to the constitution. If two of the three  believe the President's action to be unconstitutional, they may veto any law, and all three may move to remove the President from office and thusly ensure another General Election. If the President is capable of regaining his position in an election, all three Custodians must contend to their offices by election.

Parliament
-Made up of a 1000 seats, which are awarded based on electoral success every General Election. Votes on laws proposed by the President, and appoints local Governors by Parliamentary election. Each MGP (Member of the Galactic Parliament) within the winning party will be awarded a position within the formed Government, with Shadow Ministers from the largest competitor. MGPs will be in charge of applying policies at both a Interplanetary and Local Level.

What do we agree upon? Upon what do we disagree?"



                 
                   
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 24, 2008, 12:16:50 pm
"It is not our costum to barge in as a newcomer. We Eyecon observe first. The system you propose sounds excellent, but what about having 2 consuls instead of 1 president. One political and one religious party. That way, world and heaven balance each other."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Mr. Consideration on September 24, 2008, 12:23:11 pm
"There are many faiths in our Union. We do not wish to hold one above the others, not particularly wish them to have influence on the politics. Faith is a personal issue, and one cannot force one's faith on another. We've not forgotten the religious struggles in the last great war."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on September 24, 2008, 12:41:40 pm
"One president is enough. Two rulers will argue with eachother, one ruler always agrees with himself."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 24, 2008, 01:39:44 pm
"The Yunimius will agree to this system, but we propose two Consuls over a single President. No one man must hold power over so much."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [OG RP]
Post by: Josasa on September 24, 2008, 01:57:00 pm
"Why limit it to only two? We should create an elite council, selected for their expertise in a certain area, and have them work together as a unit. Why but such a burden on one creature?"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 24, 2008, 02:01:32 pm
"I believe these persons would be ceremonial mostly, and the cabinet and parliament are the ones who rule."

OOC: I have named this rebirth the Reborn Galaxy, or RG for short. Please use it for what used to be called OG.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Yannick on September 26, 2008, 02:35:55 pm
Ihatme:
"I agree with the Yunimian Delegate. The consuls will be able to suggest laws, but are mostly ceremonial."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Josasa on September 26, 2008, 11:14:53 pm
"Sorry to sound crude, but what exactly would be the point in that? Why have a 'ceremonial' unit within our government when one is not needed. I thought the intent of this meeting was the come together under a strong government, not something that has unneeded figureheads. If anyone is to hold an office, put them to work."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 27, 2008, 07:00:15 am
"The point of that would be to prevent any one person from holding too much power, and screwing things up, almost beyond repair."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Josasa on September 27, 2008, 11:57:45 am
"In this case then, a council would be better to suit our needs. They are less likely to be corrupted and will more accurately represent the people's need rather than the whims of only one of two people. A small council is the best way to go."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Daan on September 27, 2008, 12:47:25 pm
"The Yunimius' idea has the two consul's as heads of state, while the Parliament and Cabinet do the actual ruling."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Josasa on September 28, 2008, 06:37:14 pm
"Yes, i see what you mean. But what i'm suggesting is that there be a council in place of the two consuls suggested."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Yannick on October 01, 2008, 10:29:17 am
Uthal:
"The Eyecon have agreed with a council. We do need a way to keep the council perfectly balanced, so no one will have more power then the other. Let us think, brothers."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Daan on October 01, 2008, 11:41:39 am
"And what of a Tetrarchy, a system which would likely work well."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Yannick on October 01, 2008, 11:49:05 am
"A tetrarchy? Care to elaborate, the Eyecon are unfamiliar with this government system."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Josasa on October 01, 2008, 03:02:01 pm
"This system would work, but not necessarily only four beings in the seat of power. Instead we should decide on a certain number of prevalent departments and then assign heads of each of those departments. For example, trade will be a large section that the government must deal with. We should create a separate department along with a head that is present in this council. Another section would be foreign relations and would then have a department as head within the council. If this system is agreed upon then i suggest the following departments be created:
Department of Foreign Relations
Department of Trade
Department of Military Forces
Department of Internal Security
Department of Intelligence
Department of Transportation

I believe that all of these are necessary in order to keep this large and vast republic in working order."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on October 05, 2008, 02:28:17 am
"I personaly thought that we already had these departments already, however not as part of Unified Government"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Yannick on October 09, 2008, 09:29:54 am
"We demand for every race to have equal powers in this union. Perhaps have one consul of every faction or race to participate in this Senate."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Josasa on October 09, 2008, 12:55:00 pm
"But we just agreed that their would be no partisanship such as races within this new union. They are to be left behind in the new borders that will be drawn up."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Yannick on October 09, 2008, 12:59:00 pm
"Perhaps that this will work in the beginning, but eventually patriotism will take place. So in the departements, we should make sure that there is no way that one acquires more power then another."

((Well, I have to go against some ideas, else this will get boring very fast))
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Josasa on October 09, 2008, 05:01:32 pm
"But we all just agreed that we would use that system. It's over and done with."

((I understand, but if this it to move forward we need more than just a debate between two people. We need everyone posting in this thread which they aren't doing.))
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Yannick on October 10, 2008, 07:28:06 am
"Okay then, if the organisation is planned, perhaps we can bring our ideas to the grand public now? Or are there more issues to be adressed?"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: munchkin5 on October 16, 2008, 10:41:47 am
Simply the Arkibals would like too know your styandpoints on our involvement in this union.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Josasa on November 03, 2008, 07:29:21 pm
"So can we agree upon this? A large body of government elected popularly by the people to create the laws along with a smaller council of beings selected for their intelligence and reasoning in specific areas of government. And then, of course, the document of rights to secure everyone's freedoms along with a group of elite judges to make sure that these rights are fulfilled. Can this be agreed upon or must we waste our time with further arguments?" Ninel sat back in his chair hoping this indecisiveness would come to an end.
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Daan on November 04, 2008, 06:37:37 am
"We agree and will support this solution."
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Yannick on November 04, 2008, 09:27:05 am
"The Eyecon agree with this too. Are there more issues or can we go forth to the grand audience?"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Yannick on November 22, 2008, 04:48:19 pm
((Damn you all to hell!))

"Come now my friends, there has been an economical crisis just now, how do we solve it?"
Title: Re: Libera Unio (the Free Union) [RG RP]
Post by: Plank of Wood on November 24, 2008, 10:38:33 am
"Quite simply, we cannot, the Great Galactic Market was made by mostly our funding, and was built in a joint project with the Wexxians. Indeed, it has remained undamaged through all of our wars and infighting, yet it is crippled in a single attack by an unknown group of terrorists. There were no warnings, no demands, no reasons. The economy may recover eventuly, but certainly not in our lifetimes. Local currency from colonies and homeworlds are worth far more now against the credit than they ever were, and unless we act fast, Galactic Buisness may be gone forever."