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« on: June 19, 2008, 09:10:17 pm »
like Spore Creature Creator, on average, more than they The Sims or Pokemon, which also managed to be popular among them. It still falls short of Animal Crossing and Nintendogs in general appeal, however.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 09:19:38 pm »
What are girls?



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Re: Girls
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 09:25:47 pm »
Little children too.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 09:27:12 pm »
...and little sisters.


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Re: Girls
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 09:35:35 pm »
I'm female, what's the point of this post?

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Re: Girls
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2008, 09:44:11 pm »
I'm female, what's the point of this post?
Saying the results of showing Spore Creature Creator to some girls.

Don't be offended, it's just according to my findings.
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Re: Girls
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2008, 09:45:28 pm »
I'm female, what's the point of this post?

The point is that girls like the creature creator.  I must say, my pet dog is very fond of it too.



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Re: Girls
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2008, 09:46:22 pm »
That's interesting. What breed, and what has he made?
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Re: Girls
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2008, 09:49:53 pm »
Judging by the majority of males in existence on the boards, I'm going to have to say it appeals to both sexes. I'm guessing you're just being amazed by females in your life playing video games? If so I have to say I feel sorry for you. People like that scare me.

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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2008, 09:52:17 pm »
That's interesting. What breed, and what has he made?

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Re: Girls
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2008, 10:11:49 pm »
Am i the only one here who opened this thread expecting something much... much different...?
No, no, he did. In the everything else section, at least. Officially, this makes him king.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2008, 10:16:10 pm »
^^^Yes you did.


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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2008, 10:16:36 pm »
Sense.

This thread has none.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2008, 10:22:25 pm »
I'm guessing you're just being amazed by females in your life playing video games? If so I have to say I feel sorry for you.
I don't find it AMAZING, but I am posting this because it does testify to the idea that Spore will be something with a universal appeal. I implied that I've found other games that also appealed to my female friends, in fact very many, but they appear considerably less frequently than those games that appeal to my male chums exclusively.

Now, have you ever considered that you, not as a female but purely as a member of a Spore-oriented (Sporiented?) Message Board, likely don't represent the average person? I myself am decidedly unaverage, and thus would be the first to admit such a thing.
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Re: Girls
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2008, 10:35:13 pm »
Oh snap. Girls like and enjoy playing video games, too?
That's just effing ridiculous. Everyone knows girls only like
to cook and clean.  :P

Of course girls like video games. I could have told you that
without doing any "research."

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Re: Girls
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2008, 10:36:03 pm »
There are no girls on the internet.
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Re: Girls
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2008, 10:39:57 pm »
Well there are, they're all just....in pr0n.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2008, 11:56:37 pm »
Well there are, they're all just....in pr0n.

no. Look closer, there are no girls on teh interlulz

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Re: Girls
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2008, 12:06:07 am »
My sister likes it almost more than me.
No way dude, you're trolling me.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2008, 12:18:38 am »
Spore is supposed to appeal to a wider audience. It was designed to do so.
Part of its androgenous success is due to the way it works. The editor provides hours of creative fun. No T or M content neccessary. It has no real "male" bias like, say, most FPS or SW games have (Its true - FPS games and SW Games, with the exception of lego SW, target males in their advertising. That doesn't mean girls don't like video games. its all a matter of personal preference. Its a cultural myth that all girls dislike video games).

BTW; my younger sister played the editor. Normally she just pretends to not like anything that has anything to do with me. When I finally got her to try it, she was hooked. The moral? The fun-ocity of Spore is impossible to resist. ;D
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Re: Girls
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2008, 01:36:40 am »
I'm a girl and I HATE the sims. (I hate pink too) UT3 and COD4 are the only games I play. I play at least 4 hours a day. I have been playing shooters for almost 10 years.

Never a good idea to generalize. ;)

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Re: Girls
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2008, 01:41:19 am »
I'm a girl and I HATE the sims. (I hate pink too) UT3 and COD4 are the only games I play. I play at least 4 hours a day. I have been playing shooters for almost 10 years.

Never a good idea to generalize. ;)

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Re: Girls
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2008, 01:57:02 am »
Hahahaha... you guys are so funny, making it sound like girls really exist and stuff.
Good one.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2008, 01:58:31 am »
I like... girlsssss

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Re: Girls
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2008, 02:03:50 am »
lol and i'm a guy and I get plain bored with css, quake deathmatch or antyhing that's just snipe, shoot, and get efficient at killing with guns.

When I saw Crysis warhammer I went like... pff all they show is explosions: where's the story, cause that's what got me a bit interested in crysis because it's "with aliens", but I havn't touched the game in 6 months.

I play portal, trackmania, and sometimes even UT or i used to play tribes 2 because they are versatile, I was always bringing people back and forth across camps with vehicles, if you can do different things than shooting in a shooter, i tend to like it more.

My reaction to girls playing spore and sims is not so surprised, it's about art, creation, and spore really homes in on that aspect. I'm more amazed by women acting all bad-ass about css and quakewars :P
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Re: Girls
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2008, 02:05:11 am »
Hahahaha... you guys are so funny, making it sound like girls really exist and stuff.
Good one.

I heard they have bewbs and smell like flowers.

But flowers and "outside things" don't exist either. It's a lie.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2008, 02:09:32 am »
Tribes 2 was the awesome, but Tribes was still and the greatest ever.

Me and my friend got so good at flying the scouts, we would go into rooms, and just piss people off.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2008, 03:20:33 am »
I never got to play Tribes, it looked like an awsome game. But i never even saw it in stores. I wonder if I can download it somewhere.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2008, 10:06:42 am »
Well... not a single one of my friends (mostly girls) don't like playing guitar hero, rockband, pretty much any wii game, spore, or sims with me.... and i'd say a good number of them own other games themselves, like virtua fighter and stuff like that. And of course a couple of them even spent hours a day on WoW... and a few with Diablo. I don't see why everyone things gaming is just a guy thing, because its not anymore. personally i know more girls that play video games than guys.
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Re: Girls
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2008, 11:37:45 am »
Where I grew up more girls played games and owned systems than boys in the same age group.  This girls don't play games is really a more recent thing and I'm not entirely sure where it came from, maybe the fact that girls aren't as loude about the fact that they play games?

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Re: Girls
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2008, 12:18:31 pm »
meh, i don't know too many girls (2). the one i know that plays video games doesn't play most games, can't play very well, and is a VERY sore loser. the other one i have no idea about her private life.


Come to think of it, i don't know much anyone. (6, if you don't count my brother)

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Re: Girls
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2008, 12:29:44 pm »
I think the fact that you create something in Spore and see it grow up helps to attact a lot of people to the game. I think people enjoy building up more often then breaking things apart. The Sims certainly prove that, although I never could get into that myself.

I like both at times, but enjoy games where I build something, like Civilization, Settlers, or an (MMO)RPG (building your character) the most.
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Re: Girls
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2008, 01:09:07 pm »
I can't decide what I like more... Girls or Spore...


In relation to this thread:
My mum saw me play it, she looked and honestly told me: "That game looks gay."
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Re: Girls
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2008, 01:16:40 pm »
What did you say?
No way dude, you're trolling me.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2008, 01:22:01 pm »
"It was cooler before."

Although she backfired with: "Why the hell are you playing it then?"

And I said "Just let me play my goddamned game."

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Re: Girls
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2008, 01:22:48 pm »
Wait, so these girl things really exist?
I have to go outside now and do some investigation.

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« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2008, 01:24:22 pm »
What did you say?

The only response worth giving in a situation like that is, in a faux-lisp, "It's SUPER! Thanks for asking."
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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2008, 01:24:51 pm »
Wait, so these girl things really exist?

There are no girls on the Internet *wink wink*
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« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2008, 01:53:32 pm »
Judging by the majority of males in existence on the boards, I'm going to have to say it appeals to both sexes. I'm guessing you're just being amazed by females in your life playing video games? If so I have to say I feel sorry for you. People like that scare me.

So, I'm scary because I find it amazing that my mom, a person who never played videogames, played with the CC and liked it?

Now you sir, scare me.
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« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2008, 02:03:59 pm »
Judging by the majority of males in existence on the boards, I'm going to have to say it appeals to both sexes. I'm guessing you're just being amazed by females in your life playing video games? If so I have to say I feel sorry for you. People like that scare me.

So, I'm scary because I find it amazing that my mom, a person who never played videogames, played with the CC and liked it?

Now you sir, scare me.

Mom's don't represent all girls, I was shocked that mine did okay with the editor and that she even agrea'd to try it (note: I am 24)

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Re: Girls
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2008, 02:09:22 pm »
mine was all carried away with the horse I made and the baby horse I summoned in the test drive area, she was already envisioning full national geographic documentaries with the creature.

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« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2008, 02:24:24 pm »
LMAO Cosmic :p

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« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2008, 02:33:29 pm »
I think it should be applauded whenever a game achieves a sense of universal appeal.  But instead it seems normally girls that don't play games don't care either way, and girls that DO like games tend to get agitated at the notion that games may need changed to appeal to girls.

I happen to talk regularly with lots of women.  Two sisters, a few aunts, my mom, wife, daughter, and sister-in-laws to boot.  None of them have been willing to sit down and try my creature creator.  However, my 2 male friends that I talk to at work have all tried it.  Unfortunately I don't have a father, brothers, or anything like that, but I really hope that Spore ultimately finds a market with a women that ordinarily would never play games.

I know I'm still trying to get members of my family to try it.

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« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2008, 02:36:43 pm »
What did you say?

The only response worth giving in a situation like that is, in a faux-lisp, "It's SUPER! Thanks for asking."

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« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2008, 02:46:02 pm »
I don't know any guys interested in Spore, but I know lots of girls who are. The day the Creature Creator was released, two of them called me to demand I download it.

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« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2008, 02:59:00 pm »
I'm a girl and I HATE the sims. (I hate pink too) UT3 and COD4 are the only games I play. I play at least 4 hours a day. I have been playing shooters for almost 10 years.

Never a good idea to generalize. ;)
It's never a good idea to stereotype. Generalizing is not only natural, it's necessary. I prefer shooters as well, but let's not pretend we're anything other than a minority. Generally, there are some things that appeal to one sex or the other, and some things that appeal to both. I like watching football, but generally, this does not mean both sexes do. Contrarily, I don't care for most chick flicks, but that doesn't mean they aren't chick flicks.

A lot more women are gaming now than 5 or 10 years ago, but it's still a male dominated(ratio-wise) hobby. I am happy when games like Spore come out. Borrowing from marijuana prevention vernacular, they're gateway games ;) Despite being such a huge influence in my daughters life, she's never shown much interest in gaming. But when something like the Spore Creature Creator comes along, it at least gets her on the computer playing something. Slowly but surely, with the help of Will Wright, I will make her a gamer.
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Re: Girls
« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2008, 03:18:04 pm »
Me: Spore Creature Creator seems to be more of a hit among girls than most games.
Poster A: NO GIRLZ ON INTERWEB LOL
Poster B: I'm a girl and I'm an exception you sexist bastard.
Poster C: NO GIRLZ ON INTERWEB LOL

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« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2008, 03:38:28 pm »
Me: Spore Creature Creator seems to be more of a hit among girls than most games.
Poster A: NO GIRLZ ON INTERWEB LOL
Poster B: I'm a girl and I'm an exception you sexist bastard.
Poster C: NO GIRLZ ON INTERWEB LOL

Good thread everyone.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2008, 03:54:16 pm »
I figured this thread would go no-where.

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« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2008, 04:55:20 pm »
I'm a girl and I HATE the sims. (I hate pink too) UT3 and COD4 are the only games I play. I play at least 4 hours a day. I have been playing shooters for almost 10 years.

Never a good idea to generalize. ;)
It's never a good idea to stereotype. Generalizing is not only natural, it's necessary. I prefer shooters as well, but let's not pretend we're anything other than a minority. Generally, there are some things that appeal to one sex or the other, and some things that appeal to both. I like watching football, but generally, this does not mean both sexes do. Contrarily, I don't care for most chick flicks, but that doesn't mean they aren't chick flicks.

A lot more women are gaming now than 5 or 10 years ago, but it's still a male dominated(ratio-wise) hobby. I am happy when games like Spore come out. Borrowing from marijuana prevention vernacular, they're gateway games ;) Despite being such a huge influence in my daughters life, she's never shown much interest in gaming. But when something like the Spore Creature Creator comes along, it at least gets her on the computer playing something. Slowly but surely, with the help of Will Wright, I will make her a gamer.
Tribes 2 was the awesome, but Tribes was still and the greatest ever.
I never cared for Tribes 2. Tribes remains one of my favorite games of all time.

Thank you for that post, now I don't need to write it ^^ Plus stuff like that is always more readily accepted when coming from a member of the gender being discussed.
It seems like everytime someone mentions a study about girls and video games you get name calling and agression.
While I don't think the OP's "study" in reality can be called anything but a "personal observation" (based on a relatively small and likely unvaried test group), REAL studies can show trends with certain elements' appeal to the genders. Chick flicks was a great example.

Based on my OWN "personal observation" among MY female friends, and on the type of games that have been shown in several previous proper studies to appeal to females, I can say that yes this is one of the games that seems more likely to appeal to females as well - particularly and specifically the non-gamer variant.
This doesn't mean that all gamer-girls will not like it, and that all non-gamer girls will; it means only exactly that which was said.

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Re: Girls
« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2008, 05:29:58 pm »
OP is right, response is positive all around.

What makes you all think gamers are mostly guys anyway?

That's real funny. "Girls don't exist" I'm guessing your momma didn't tell you that.
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Re: Girls
« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2008, 05:45:06 pm »
When i was young my momma gave me some advice, she said boy, dont you know, everybodys got a price.

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« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2008, 06:05:32 pm »
My mother told me not to talk to strangers. Now look at me! I am on a forum talking to random strangers and commenting their abominations! ;D

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Re: Girls
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2008, 06:20:11 pm »
like Spore Creature Creator, on average, more than they The Sims or Pokemon, which also managed to be popular among them. It still falls short of Animal Crossing and Nintendogs in general appeal, however.

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That being said, I'm sure she'll be more interested in Spore once it comes out. Just not enough to drool over it for the next 78 days.

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« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2008, 07:00:36 pm »
What makes you all think gamers are mostly guys anyway?

Its a half misconception/half truth resulting mainly from the following:

1. Popular culture frowns upon the idea of girls playing videogames, labeling video games are labeled as "masculine".

2. most videogames are pitched toward guys rather than girls (ex: Most video games have male main characters, portray females as "sex objects", and ads show males playing the game). A few exceptions include the "Nintendogs" ads, and barbie pc game ads. They don't so much portray the actual population's views, but are intended to influence public opinion, contributing to (1).

3. Gaming-related television puts out messages similar to those described in two. For more examples of gender-role stereotypes, watch just 20 minutes of "Spike", and then 20 minutes of the "Oxygen" channel. :P

There is no "video gaming gene" that only guys have. Its all depends on personal preference and the game in question.
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« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2008, 07:11:02 pm »
I have a freind "girl" that will only play FPS games, and shes the best I know. Weve played UT2004 together many times and it allways ends up:
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« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2008, 07:14:39 pm »
Not to be sexist, but society is the cause of it and at fault. In the west, traditionally girls create and boys destroy. In other societies, it's another story, but that's just the west, and my 2 cents to your findings. Sad thing really, because historically elsewhere, girls can be very destructive and boys can be very creative.
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« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2008, 02:22:08 am »
I always find it curious though, that if a girl is portrayed like a sex object that this is something that is not done, while girls nowadays are always reducing men to their butt or their eyes or his chest or what not. Surely if you go to the ladies room you'll have "object" talk. Ok they usually bath these conversation in lots of emo cream, but women can see men as sex objects as much as men can do with women.

The only difference i see is that it might be that men don't really have the whole emotional scala of feelings, romantic stray and whatnot: when they think about boobs. I feel myself slowly entering the generalisation again, cause that's what will always happen if you think that the one is more sex oriented than the other,...

It's always those who talk the most respectless about any aspect of the other sex: that get noticed the most easiest.

Now the first thought about this idea was that I suddenly think of a "model" like lara croft. Men will say rrr i wanna play her, some wommen will surely say "I wish i was her so i was more sexy". Not every women will do that. As not every man will be seeing this as the ultimate companion.

I often get the comment of being gay if I resist these kind of role models myself, that's not fun too: so I'm trying to think that both sexes can be extremely sexist.. or not.

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« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2008, 02:32:29 am »
this thread greatly confuses me... fail.
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« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2008, 08:00:45 am »
There is no huge difference between men and women psychologically, it all boils down to how we were raised, generally boys are raised differently than girls and vice versa, but every likes and dislikes aren't coded into our gender, it just differentiates based on how we are as people.
So does it really matter whether women or men like games? If people like games then that's that, why try to make it a gender thing?
It's irrelevant; I know that hiphoppers and clubbers like this game as well, but it doesn't really matter, the stereotype is rarely the majority.

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« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2008, 08:06:53 am »
You would be surprised how many gamer girls their are.

You know that super hot cheerleader you'll never date? Its very possible shes a gamer and just is not very vocal about it in public.

I have played with a ton of girls online in Halo 3, grand theft auto 4, the bad company demo, lost planet colonies and many more.

Its not a rare  anymore.


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« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2008, 08:11:27 am »
You would be surprised how many gamer girls their are.

You know that super hot cheerleader you'll never date? Its very possible shes a gamer and just is not very vocal about it in public.

I have played with a ton of girls online in Halo 3, grand theft auto 4, the bad company demo, lost planet colonies and many more.

Its not a rare  anymore.

Gaming is maturing. We're still not there yet, but is going quicker and quicker. Look at what the DS and Wii did for gaming. Even my granny played with the Wii at 84. Now if that isn't finding a new market I don't know what is. :D

Soon people won't even look funny at you when you tell them you game for a hobby... Good times! :)

Might need to find a new underdog hobby soon! ;)
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« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2008, 08:36:58 am »
the new underdog hobby should be, going to the disco ^^ ;D

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« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2008, 08:53:43 am »
There's more girls that play the games these days because through time, they have found it.

The original games were made by little nerds. Then they sold them and silly wannabe soldiers bought them. Then the artsy types put their morals and stories into it and so people who read books started playing them for the stories.

Through each step, some girls were with the majority boys,

Slowly, more girls joined in, and now there are many girls.

It's the beauty of how "fads" spread. An actual science, lol. social reactions are very amusing to observe.

One can even link how the people who want to ban games have been growing. Some of the wannabe soldiers had hippy mothers. It was something new to protest in their otherwise boring lives(generalization, but pff...). Then they spread word to other liberal activists who then spread it to others, eventually landing at Jack Thompson.
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« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2008, 09:09:17 am »
You would be surprised how many gamer girls their are.

You know that super hot cheerleader you'll never date? Its very possible shes a gamer and just is not very vocal about it in public.

I have played with a ton of girls online in Halo 3, grand theft auto 4, the bad company demo, lost planet colonies and many more.

Its not a rare  anymore.

Gaming is maturing. We're still not there yet, but is going quicker and quicker. Look at what the DS and Wii did for gaming. Even my granny played with the Wii at 84. Now if that isn't finding a new market I don't know what is. :D

Soon people won't even look funny at you when you tell them you game for a hobby... Good times! :)

Might need to find a new underdog hobby soon! ;)

Hell, what you say is true. My mom LOVED the wii, while she never was and prob never will be a gamer.
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« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2008, 10:34:55 am »
Something I have noticed that really bugs me is the way some guys treat women in online games. Every time I am in a server in GTA IV and a female starts talking, there is always at least one guy that starts putting her down and calling her names. There is no excuse for doing that and I can see why a lot of females probably are not vocal about gaming. Some probably play with out even saying a word. It's a shame really. I like hearing female voices in the chatter. Too bad there are the jerks who think they have to run the women off. I guess they are afraid of being beaten by a female.
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« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2008, 10:48:52 am »
As if they don't do that to fellow males? It's internet manners: there are none.
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« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2008, 11:12:51 am »
One can even link how the people who want to ban games have been growing. Some of the wannabe soldiers had hippy mothers. It was something new to protest in their otherwise boring lives(generalization, but pff...). Then they spread word to other liberal activists who then spread it to others, eventually landing at Jack Thompson.

I'm not sure why you think this sort of censorship is (or began as) a liberal* thing. There are plenty of people on both sides who have favored censoring videogames (and books and movies and radio...) for as long as they have existed—and there are plenty of people on both sides who have always thought that such censorship is an infringement on basic human rights.

It's not a "liberal" thing or a "conservative" thing. It's just an ethical philosophy thing—a matter of whether it's better to control people for their own good or better to let people control themselves, for better or for worse.


*Note: By liberal, I (being American) assume you mean leftwing. If you actually mean rightwing, my point still stands, however.

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« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2008, 11:14:53 am »
Well I guess I generalized.

Most movements in America started as liberal movement, and spread to be liked by conservatives. Like sienna falls and the likes.

There are two kinds of conservatives. The liberal conservatives who use liberalism, influenced by their faiths, to progress society (the great awakening movements) and the closed-to society conservatives who hate progression.
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« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2008, 12:48:55 am »
Most movements in America started as liberal movement, and spread to be liked by conservatives. Like sienna falls and the likes.

Best example ever; the hippies that became conservative libertarians. In their minds "The man" switched from being the corporation to the government regulating the corporation.
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