Gaming Steve

April 28, 2008

So Who Isn't Buying GTA IV? And Why?

Perfect GTA IV
With all the insane hype, the near perfect scores, and the simple fact that it's a new Grand Theft Auto I have to wonder, is anyone out there not buying this game? I even know several people who are buying a new system just to play GTA IV. Everyone and anyone who plays games seems to be buying this game.

But yet something surprising happened to me today while I was trying to arrange some multiplayer mayhem with my Xbox 360 friends ... only few of them were planning on picking up the game. Even with all the hype and amazing reviews they weren't planning on picking it up any time soon. When I asked them they give me a very simple reason ... they don't like the Grand Theft Auto franchise.

And to tell you the truth ... neither do I. (Whew, that felt good to finally get off my chest.)

Yeah, I understand the appeal of GTA III and Vice City, but I just found them ... boring. The cities seemed dead to me with robotic pedestrians, the side-quests seemed more like work than fun, and the endless "collection quests" drove me insane. Those games seemed like a rough collection of mini-games, none of which I found particularly fun or exciting. (However I will say that San Andreas was much better and I actually enjoyed that entry in the series, but still I found it above average at best).

But yet I'm still super excited to play GTA IV, even though I don't really enjoy the GTA franchise. Why you ask?

Ironically it's because of Rockstar's non-GTA games. The Warriors, Bully and even Manhunt were some of the most enjoyable gaming experiences of my life. I found all of those games rich experiences with fascinating characters, complex stories, and engrossing worlds. I enjoyed these games as much as people seem to enjoy the GTA games, and for the same reasons it seems.

Hence, that is why I can't wait to play GTA IV. GTA IV seems to combine the best aspects of Rockstar's non-GTA games along with the "tried and true" GTA gameplay aspects. And if Rockstar managed to combine their two worlds of GTA and non-GTA gameplay, then I fully expect GTA IV to be right up there with the legends.

I guess I'll find out, along with several million other people, in just a few hours.

Anyone else out there own an Xbox 360 or PS3 and is not planning on getting GTA IV? What's up with that?

Posted by Gaming Steve at 8:00 PM | Comments (22) | Posted to PlayStation 3 | Xbox |  Add this story to  Stumble It!  Submit this story to Digg!

I wont be buying..not right away anyway. I will however be renting it from gamefly.

My reason is simple. GTA 3 was great, every GTA after it felt more like an expansion pack rather then a game and i just do not see this one be any different.

Posted by GormanConall at April 28, 2008 9:55 PM

I'm waiting for the superior PC version.

Posted by PatMan33 at April 28, 2008 10:00 PM

Considering that I'm 15, and GTA is the most infamous video game I know of (excluding carmageddon), I won't be getting this. Maybe GTA5....

Posted by Gungnir at April 28, 2008 10:04 PM

I'll be picking it up in just a few hours. I love these free roaming games more for the exploration and story than the "gameplay". What I mean by that is that it isn't the combat or driving that draws me in, but creating experiences out of the sandbox the developers have given me. I loved grabbing a helicopter and trying to land it ontop of sky scrapers in GTA: San Andreas or finding a hidden cove in Elder Scrolls Oblivion. Rockstar is especially capable when it comes to story, so I'm also excited for that.

Posted by Clayton at April 28, 2008 10:12 PM

I won't be getting GTA IV, but only because of financial reasons. Maybe when I get a job this summer...

Posted by Nugget_N at April 28, 2008 10:14 PM

I don't like buying a game twice. I decided to wait for Mass Effect and that paid off. I'm thinking it will here too.

Jade Empire, the other GTA's, I don't like shelling out money twice and I know I will prefer the PC version.

Posted by JamesPatrick at April 28, 2008 10:41 PM

You know I didn't really care for any of the GTA games either...I never really played that much of III, but when I went out and bought Vice City last year, I hated it entirely because of the control scheme (touching the right analog stick put you in 1st person; because of that you couldn't rotate the camera). San Andreas was much better, but I got kind of bored to be honest.

I don't know why, it goes against all past experience, but I'm really looking forward to this. And its not just 'cause of the hype.

Will I be buying it? I have no idea. I'm gonna wait 'till some people have played it and I can talk to them about it...whether its a real improvement over the others or just another GTA III. And even if it is good, I might wait for the PC version because of all the sweet mods that'll inevitably be developed.

But I dunno, if it's as good as the reviews might suggest, then I doubt I could wait as long as it would take for the PC version to come out...

Posted by hizzah at April 28, 2008 11:35 PM

Basically, it's the setting/theme. I just don't get into the whole gang-star thing. It's not just games; movies like The Godfather and TV shows like The Sopranos just don't hold much interest to me, on the whole. The GTA series is a wonderful achievement in technology and game design, and if there was a game that played identically and was set basically anywhere else, I'd probably love it. So no, I just can't get into the setting. I play games more for escapism than anything else, and so a game that lets me escape to somewhere I don't actually want to go is never going to grab my attention.

Posted by Timbo at April 28, 2008 11:43 PM

I am pretty much with Timbo for the most part. It has a lot to do with the theme, I have never been a big crime buff and even though GTA's world is large and living it just does not interest me.

I bought San Andreas because everyone else told me what a great game it was, I played it for 2 hours and never touched the game again. I have played countless iterations of GTA from Vice City to liberty stories and no matter how hard I tried I just never had fun playing it.

Posted by Lurker at April 28, 2008 11:59 PM

I'll get it whenever. I don't really care.
I'm not in a rush really, but I don't want to miss out on the chance to play the GamingSteve forum guys in multiplayer.

I enjoy the games mainly because I can kill people. I've mentioned this before.
I luuuurve me some killin'.
Also, smashing cars and blowing stuff up.

I have a feeling though that I'll enjoy Mercenaries 2 way the hell more than I will GTA4.
But will I be seeing Mercenaries 2 with a 10/10? Probably not, not that I care that much.

Still, the experience is more meaningful to me if I'm able to do some heavy damage to stuff, to destroy and kill.
I don't know why really. Someone told me it had to do with tension or anxiety release, and that may very well be correct.

Yeah, so I don't really care about GTA4 the same way everyone else does I don't think. I just want to do a bit of car crashing, to try it out.
And then I'm gonna run over my friends in multiplayer!


Posted by Gauphastus at April 29, 2008 12:37 AM

1. Don't have an Xbox or a PS3, but recently bought a Wii.
2. There are all these other great games I am playing or want to finish (Guild Wars Nightfall, Oblivion, Mario Galaxy, No More Heroes, Zelda, Etrian Odyssey, Bioshock, Sins of a Solar Empire...)

There just seem to be too many long interesting games coming out and not enough time to play them, especially if you try to keep up with some other interests in real life as well.

But I have to confess: the Special Edition is really tempting me...

Posted by otaku62 at April 29, 2008 2:36 AM

Steve are you going to review GTA IV?

Posted by DM Osbon at April 29, 2008 4:41 AM

Heh. Take your pick.....

*Been travelling for work lately, so I only have my laptop 4-5 days a week; so I haven't played much console lately.

*Backlog of games I haven't finished yet (plus the Stanley Cup playoffs)

*All three kids have birthdays in April, so my game budget is a little lean this time of year. And a $300 plumbing adventure ate what's left. Ah the joys of home ownership!

*At the risk of outing myself as something of a prude, I wouldn't want my kids (13, 11, 4) playing it and don't feel strongly enough about it to stash a copy in the sock drawer, so I can try to play it behind their backs here and there. Besides, the sock drawer is full of porn anyway. ;)

Posted by Pfellah at April 29, 2008 6:06 AM

I'm with Timbo. I don't like the theme. What I also don't like is the quests and I've found that the story in all the GTA games so far has been a waste (for me). Maybe this will be different, maybe not. I will, however, borrow it from a friend and see how it feels. GTA is a series that's great for renting or borrowing for the weekend, but I wouldn't spend money on the whole game.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing those games, but all I ever really do is go around town, killing everyone and using cheats (this is for some reason one of the only games I prefer playing with cheats - be it weapon or extra vehicle cheats), which gets old quite fast. The ganster, gang and sometimes rapper stuff which seems to be the main point of the series just does not appeal to me.

I'm definitely interested, but not buying.

Posted by Thingy at April 29, 2008 8:12 AM

I liked to goof around in gta:SA, alot. It was fun to just cause mayhem everywhere and cause major traffic pile ups, then shoot at one fuel tank and see them all blow up, fight with people, scaing old ladies, honk on women in business suits, jump from the biggest tower and land on a roof with a parchute and then takign out people and cars with your bazooka and see how far you could take it until the army appeared and then shoot on their choppers and tanks.

I thought: amazing, in gta4 it looks all much more realistic and you have a more immersive world that looks much sharper and lively. You have almost the interactivity that duke nukem would dream of in stripclubs etc. But I'm having a double feeling about this. Although the game looks inviting to do the same things with even more visual splendor: a feeling always seems to hit me that says "more of the same, and you get bored of it eventually".

The missions are maybe cool, but I'd buy the game only for the sandbox experience and you must say that your "core business" will be the same as in older gta's. Even if everyone is more interactive and maybe the multiplayer game will be fun. (especially police vs gangsters seems an originalidea).

But I don't have a console. I'll have to buy a console especially to play this game and then the double feeling i have about this just hits me and I refuse to buy a console just for 1 game. (I'll probably not buy much else for this console.

If I have to think about not wasting money , Id think about the wii because i would probably buy more games and virtual games on it. I'm not such a console player (not a hardcore gamer in general altghough I exhibit this pattern for a few games)

If it's released on pc i'll buy it.

Posted by CosmicD at April 29, 2008 10:05 AM

Another agreement with Timbo. My entertainment is focused on heroes beating the bad guys and criminals - I like my comics goody two shoes, I like action movies where the bad guy wins, and I like my games where I feel that I can be proud of the actions I play, if I were the main character.

GTA just holds no interest for me.

There is so much of the bad guys winning in the real world, I use my entertainment (Movies, books, comics, games what-have-you) to escape that kind of stuff.

I rented a couple of GTA titles over the years, just because I think you should make decisions off of data, and the games just left me cold. I'll never buy a game in the series until the cops are the good guys, and the gangstas are the villians.

Posted by Lord Mhoram at April 29, 2008 12:49 PM

Going to have to disagree with you there Steve, I love the GTA games, and will be getting GTA 4 when I can cough up the money for it and a 360. And I have to say, Manhunt sucked, it was repetitive bile, and the control for that game was terrible.

Posted by KregAaron at April 29, 2008 4:54 PM

I'm not getting GTA4 because I can't. I don't have the system to play it on. (Damn Wii. I was hating it until they announced DS/Wii synchronicity for the new Ghostbusters game today. Yay!)

When I do get the game I will not be killing prostitutes and I'll do as best I can to be the good guy. I like that GTA is out there as an option and I applaud the designers for pushing the envelope beyond just sex and gore, but I'm a good person and I like being nice to people...even virtual people.

Call me a wuss. I don't care.

Posted by Ryuukuro at April 29, 2008 8:47 PM

Waiting for PC version. Even then, not sure I'll play it much, what, with impressionable youth in close proximity and all. To be honest, I find the GTA games a little tiring. I want something new, different, and personalized... Enter Spore!

Sadly, I think EA has prolonged the release of Spore a bit. I dont have the same "I have to have it" as I once did. So many new videos show new features and functionality while taking out some of the old functionality that I was really looking forward to. Things like undersea adventure and colonies. I fear Spore will end up like the Sims... almost too complex for its own good in a simplistic way. It's really going to need a true multiplayer (where a couple of friends can directly interact with one another) in order to be top ranking in my book.

But anyway, this thread was about GTA and not Spore. Off to play Sins of a Solar Empire.


Posted by Verkinix at April 30, 2008 1:08 AM

I'm not going to play it. I haven't even finished GTA: Vice City! I don't have any of the new consoles - nor do I have an interest in this generation really.

I'm too content with Civ IV.

Posted by Laurence at April 30, 2008 8:32 AM

Oh damn it. I decided to read some reviews and watch gameplay vids out of curiosity, and am now going to go out and buy it tomorrow morning. There goes my money :(

Posted by Thingy at May 1, 2008 4:06 PM

I won't be getting it soon. Not my type of game and I don't like the whole hype thing - it's gettin too mainstream.... I am looking forward to see things like Golden Axe, Mortal Kombat vs. DC Comics, Star Wars.... Unleashed and Indiana Jones (not the Lego one)...

Posted by Milen at July 7, 2008 7:29 PM
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