Gaming Steve

October 10, 2005

Play WOW For Free?

World of WarcraftWhenever a new MMORPG comes out some enterprising hackers manage to figure out how reverse engineer the hosting server and then play the MMORPG on their own "private" servers. And with a game as popular as World of Warcraft it would only be a matter of time before private WOW servers appeared on the Net.

Now I don't approve of this activity in any way whatsoever and I'm sure Blizzard will sue these places out of existence. However, for those of you interested in "researching" this interesting and little known aspect of MMORPGs you can view a list of private WOW servers at wowstatus.net. Most of these servers aren't in English, and I'm sure most of them don't work, and you might get sued if you use them, but if you REALLY don't want to pay $14.95 a month you might be interested. Just remember, you get what you pay for!

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dude qhat with all the "zors".

on topic glad i am not the one going to be sued

Posted by The Godfather at October 10, 2005 05:11 PM

If only they could have done it for Need For Speed Motor City Online. :(

Posted by legodragonxp at October 10, 2005 07:07 PM

I'm sorry, the following lines from your post do not compute:

"Now I don't approve of this activity in any way whatsoever" < "if you REALLY don't want to pay $14.95 a month give these a try."

Things that make you go hmmmm. Seems like a real responsible thing to do, linking to an illegal method for saving potentially a lot of money. Don't you think many people will be tempted to try this now that you've raised their awareness to it?

How would you like it if an independent news source linked to a site that contained the combination of your gym locker, told people that you put hundreds of dollars in the locker every month, and then said, "But don't steal Steve's money, because that would be illegal and I'm sure he'd sue you...unless you REALLY need hundreds of dollars."

Posted by Bob Joe at October 10, 2005 09:07 PM

Bob Joe you are correct in the sense that I might send a mixed message here. However the reason for the posting was more to shed some light on a hidden aspect of ALL MMORPGs (not just WOW) than to encourage illegal gameplay. I have slightly modified my posting to reflect this.

Posted by Gaming Steve at October 10, 2005 09:52 PM

Gaming Steve,

Thanks for considering the concern I raised. On an ethical level, I can appreciate that the edit makes it clearer that people are breaking the law and could be sued for engaging in what you link to. However, by linking to it, you are still doing more than informing people about it, you are making it easy for them to learn how to do it.

For example, it's like saying, "Doing PCP is dangerous and I don't endorse it, and you could go to jail if you're caught using it, and you could die from it, but here are the four steps you need to know in order to cook some up, if you REALLY want to get high. Remember, you could die."

However, I understand that if you decided to remove the link, it could ruin the whole news story. So, perhaps you could instead consider balancing out the story with a link to http://www.blizzhackers.com to make it as vivid for your readers what the negative consequences of their potential actions could be, as you do for the positive consequences (saving $14.95/month).

To continue the example above, that would be like balancing out a news story about how to make PCP with an image of a dead person with PCP snot bubbles coming out of their nose.

Posted by Bob Joe at October 10, 2005 10:37 PM

well here it goes:

i live in Romania (that's in eastern europe) and to tell you the truth i've seen my fair shae of thesea "pirated servers" around here. there were (last time i checked, and that's about 5 months ago) about 4-5 reengineered WoW servers and about 3-4 Lineage2 servers that were updated accordingly to the main servers (aka BLZRD one and NPC one). Shure the number of players were by far less than the official server (about 19.000-20.000 on a WoW server) but the game was playable. The thing with pirated/engineered copys of servers is that there is no way that you can predict it's survival and some of the quest were not active, but it's a good start for someone to try out the game before they buy it (kinda like a shareware version).

I'm not saying that i approve this kind of activity, but, here in Romania, the game started to be on sale long after it's release and even if there were gamers wishing to buy it, it was not a posibility for them to do so. Also the internet connections here are very slow and the fast ones are very very expensive. What do i mean by that ... well the medium wage of a romanian is about 150 USD/month ... a decent connection (in our terms) is 512 K/s and thats about 300-400 USD/month... you do the math... so the cheapest and fastest way to play this kind of game is through this kind of piracy.

those were the facts.
sorry for my english

Daemien

Posted by Daemien at October 11, 2005 03:53 AM

"Now I don't approve of this activity in any way whatsoever"

"if you REALLY don't want to pay $14.95 a month you might be interested"

Those two statements really don't mesh at all. If you don't approve "in any way" of said activity, why would you then turn around and provide a weak justification needed to then engage in it? In my humble opinion, it would be best to leave out the "if you REALLY.." clause and state that the link is purely for informational purposes and should not be used to play on illegal WoW servers.

On the other hand, Bliz legal probably doesn't see any difference in what you say about the list site, only that you linked it (actions speak louder than words and all that). So you could just leave out the "Now I don't approve..." statement and avoid sounding cautiously hypocritical.

Posted by Jason at October 11, 2005 05:04 AM

By the way, should any reader decide to actually use such a server, do not use the same account name and password as you use for the Blizzard servers. Seems like it should common sense but...

Posted by Danzik at October 11, 2005 06:24 AM

Making bombs is illegal. Writing books about it is not. Go check out your library. Americans cherish the freedom of speech, especially unpopular speech, and we leave it up to an individual whether he will use available information for illegal activities. Is this site making it easier to perform an "illegal" activity? Sure. But it's up to the user to go ahead and do it.

Now if your argument is not that the information should not be allowed to be posted here, but that the information serves no valid purpose and the poster is clearly not doing anything positive by posting it, thats something else, and I agree with you.

Posted by Jon Kanders at October 11, 2005 02:21 PM

this activity might be currently illegal in the united states, but if the servers are hosted in a country without any copyright law then its perfectly fine. i for one will probably check this out.

Posted by ben at October 11, 2005 02:29 PM

I don't see where it matters what the writer of this article condones. If you get your ethics from news stories, you are brain-dead. Did you all of a sudden discard your beliefs, that this is wrong, because of anything in the above article? Information is only dangerous if you use it dangerously. People are able to make the best choices if they have all the info. In the end, it is the individual that is good or bad, not the purveyor of knowledge.

Knowledge of this could be used by someone to prevent themselves from getting scammed by someone from one of these 'private' servers. Do you think withholding the link is worth anything if you can just type the subject in Google and get to the site that way? Keeping people ignorant isn't the solution for anything.

Thanks for the article!

Posted by Dave at October 11, 2005 02:42 PM

thanks for the link steve, Ive been wondering when these would start showing up.
I noticed that most of these servers only had like 10-50 people online, and this is not enough to support a decent game of WoW. So in this sense I see it as a 'try before you buy' server.
You would be better off to use the free 14-day trial Blizzard is offering.

However I will still probably check one out, see how it goes, then go straight back to my offical account.

Posted by Devilmachine at October 11, 2005 03:31 PM

That´s nice.

Posted by Kenneth at October 13, 2005 12:12 PM

Actually, emulated servers are not illegal. Take sony's EverQuest for example. There are about 3 player run servers out there that are decent. They are free to play too. And that fact alone is what makes these servers, not illegal.

We as a customer payed for and bought blizzards game. Even those who run the servers. The only thing that is protected by law, are the copyrigted NPC names, as well as blizards title 'World of Warcraft'. Aside from that, we as a consumer may run these imitation servers, as long as we don't make a buck doing so. Most emulation servers do ask for a donation, but most the time this is so the servers may stay up and running.

What we pay 14.95'ish a month for is for the service to use their servers and their content.

Posted by Ferledon at October 13, 2005 03:24 PM

I'm sure that you're referring to "winter's roar" as one of those awesome player servers. Sony threatened the ISP with legal action and winters roar (the most functional and sucessfull eq emu) is no more.

All of the emulated servers suck I'm sure, should any get any good, blizzard will come a knockin.

Posted by happydan20 at October 19, 2005 12:47 PM

Bob, you're a dumb ass. you argue the ethics of mentioning a video game and raising awareness to its pirated servers and then you give an example of illegal death dealing addictive drugs. the one you mention is currently at an epidemic level in Canada, North/central and south america. Good job bob. You should have at least used a different motif to enhance your ethical debate. listed some stats and cross referenced them to the video game. Go read a book or push some keys. we just dont care. I have a payed account and have been on since alpha2.a I also have a private server I am developing my own content for. Blizzard has even used 4 of our story archs. we have 485 users as of 3.45 am today.
wont be back

Posted by dumb ass at October 19, 2005 02:32 PM

hi i was wondering if i could get a private free world of warcraft server with admin? is there any possibility that i can download it from this webcite?

Posted by steffen at October 21, 2005 11:21 AM

To clear up a few things:

1) running or playing on the servers is not illigal, Blizzards has tried to stop people from running servers, and has succeded sometimes, but they have no legal way of doing so, why:
2) most of the servers are run on W@Wemu, this is an EMUATOR, first; this isn't illigal, second; the server was programmed in Latvia, which doesn't have computer laws.
3) The servers are still more bugged, and a lower version then official servers, and they can handle less players. but a new emulator (also not illigal) is coming out that runs on the same patch and witch an equal amount of bus as an official server, it's coming out soon. (http://www.wddg-online.com)

The servers aren't illigal, but most people who play on them use an illigal copy of WOW, which is illigal.

Yes it is possible to run your own server, and you can be a GM. for a list of servers see http://www.wowstatus.net

wowstatus.net is completely legal, as it only offers links, thats why Blizzard can't shut it down, much like you can't shutdown download link sites as http://www.phazeddl.com

max level of private servers (they avoid the name illigal servers) is up to 255, which rules...

Posted by Vaeil at October 30, 2005 09:43 AM

Dear Bob,

Your analogies are both extreme and broken. You are deluded.

Thanks.

Posted by Bob the Knob at November 20, 2005 04:42 AM

Vaeil is correct. An emulated server just runs the game. It takes no legal credit for it and therfore it is a legal emulation of the game. The reason it is legal is becuase the game is on line only and by programming standards and laws no program can be made to be on line only!.

Hackers created the internet and hackers will end the internet

Posted by keivamp at November 26, 2005 08:18 AM

halo

Posted by jon at December 3, 2005 09:28 AM

Ok you guys have this all wrong. Blizzard can't shut these servers down as the actual software that hosts the private ones was written from scratch, Not reverse engineered as you might think.

All the neccessary files to run a server is in the 'client' world of warcraft directory. The zone's (thats the area's that a player is in at a current time in the game) has custom written scripts that tell the monters and in game characters what to say, how to act, and when killed what loot to drop. These scripts are written with the main priciple in mind to keep to the original pay servers but many hosts have changed those "original written scripts" to boost game speed and what not.

Max level on the pay servers is 60. The max level on a free server can be anywhere from 55 to 255 depending on if the host wants to have god like characters playing across the game.

in an area called molten core there is a monster that is actually level 244 and on the pay servers it takes a group of 40 people to try and kill him, each player is maxed at level 60. those groups usually die before being able to kill him making him the hardest enemy in the game.

The private server hosts have the option to change the rate a player can gain Experience, it can be boosted to where their multiplier is 1.5x or 3x normal experience gain.

So here is the real deal. People can hosts these 'private' servers in the US as they aren't modifying the 'client' files in anyway shape or form. for the exception of the server list where you can edit with a text editor to change where the client looks for servers.. but changing that isn't illiegal as its not decompiling the file and editing code..

Decompiling is illiegal, making a server emulation that uses files that are created from scratch is not.

Blizzard cannot go after these people as there is no basis for a legal case. If a court ordered the developers to decompile their code and show the source for the emulated servers there would be no simularities between Blizzard's code and that of the emulated server.


Bitstorm

Posted by Bitstorm at December 7, 2005 04:46 PM

I want just say this:

"Does Blizzard Entertainment® allow or support other Battle.net® like or emulation servers? Can I host one of these rogue servers?

No. Except as set forth in the next paragraph, Blizzard Entertainment® does not support or condone network play of its games anywhere but Battle.net®. Specifically, you may not host or provide matchmaking services for any of our games or emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Blizzard Entertainment® in the network feature of its games, through protocol emulation, tunneling, modifying or adding components to the game(s), use of a utility program or any other techniques now known or hereafter developed, for any purpose including, but not limited to network play over the Internet, network play utilizing commercial or non-commercial gaming networks or as part of content aggregation networks without the prior written consent of Blizzard Entertainment®. "

http://www.blizzard.com/legalfaq.shtml

A private free server is illegal.

Posted by lukyluke at December 13, 2005 09:55 AM

>>A private free server is illegal.

this is debatable, it's a large grey area,

for now, running it in the US is the MOST dangerous zone to host, Blizzard itself has used illigal means to shutdown several US servers, people outside of the US are OK, noen heve yet been sued...

As I stated before, the server's aren't entirely illigal, because it WASN'T reverse engineerde, the code WASN'T stolen, and the core was programmed in Latvia. although it's not entirely legal either...

Blizzards doesn't support the private servers, but doesn't hate them too, what they hate is that it gives people a chance to play WITHOUT BUYING THE GAME...

If you could only play with a legal CD key, would Blizzard care as much?

Don't go saying Private WoW is illigal, it isn't...

Posted by Vaeil at December 13, 2005 02:57 PM

No its not illiegal.. reread your facts.

This > " Blizzard Entertainment® does not support or condone network play of its games anywhere but Battle.net®."

Is just a statement that Blizzard does not support either through phone or internet technical support of network play. That is to say they don't want to have to deal with supporting or providing technical support for people trying to get either Starcraft, Diablo, Diablo II, World of warcraft to work on their own Local area network or Gaming parties.

I used to work/volunteer at a huge LAN party place in Florida and Blizzard sent a letter stating that we were not allowed to play any of their games on our LAN except through Battle.net, We sent them a letter back and said are you joking? We don't make any profit from this, we do it for fun there is no money being exchanged. The Lan party was a non-profit organization.

Blizzard's legal department got ahold of us and told us we could do what we wanted as long as no one was using illiegally copied games and that they weren't responsible for providing support to us. We said fine and we never heard from them again.


Let me state a fact about World of Warcraft Emulated servers.. People that host them are doing so at their own volition. That is to say they are responsible for the player load, the complaints and the overall running of their computer/server.

An emulated server can at most run only with upto 85 players maximum unless someone has some big money involved. However that person putting big money into a free server can't expect to get money back as that is what would running one become illiegal..


When a person buys a game they aren't buying the code, or the manual, or the box, they are buying an agreement a piece of paper that says you can play this game within the End User License agreement.

It also states that Blizzard or any other game company can revoke said agreement at anytime.

the only way Blizzard could even try to go after a person playing on a free server is to contact each and every person playing on that free server and revoking them of their right to legally use that software..

The emulated server software is was written by a third party and written from scratch not containing any code from the actual World of warcraft software it self.

That Ladies and Gentlemen is exactly what Blizzard is doing. They are contacting various servers that are running for free and not asking them to shut down but ordering by court order to give up the IP addresses of those players connecting to those free servers so they can revoke those 'players' right to use said software legally.

Meaning log into free servers at your own risk. If you do and they do decide to revoke your license then you lost about 45.00 USD and aren't allowed to legally use another of Blizzard's products again.


Bitstorm

Posted by Bitstorm at December 15, 2005 01:59 AM

That is one, but most people on private servers don't use the legal software, that's the only real illigal part

Posted by Vaeil at December 19, 2005 03:56 PM

The Truth:

Free servers are NOT ilegal. They are made from scratch, only through observation of the server. Everything is done by people not connected to Blizzard in any way. They get on the real servers, make some notes, get off, and try to put it all into code. It's just like artists making prints. They see someone else's COPYWRIGHTED painting, and say "My, that's a nice painting!", so they try to copy it. Key word: TRY. They do not succeed in making it exactly alike, and it's done from scratch. Therefore the original artist has no right to be mad.


The Truth:

People can still make money off of these servers, making it legal. They recieve donations. Just like saying "My, that copy painting of yours is brilliant! I will give you One Dollar because I think you did very well and you had a lot of effort put into it!". That is still legal.


Baseline:

Free servers are legal. Playing WoW with downloaded CDs is ilegal. End of story.

Posted by The Romanian at December 31, 2005 12:54 AM

Yooo guys!!!
I just want to ask you guys that where can i download a wow server?
for 1.8.x of course


please write me that

Posted by Avalon at January 5, 2006 09:21 PM

Well downloading music isnt legal but the amount of people that do that are unreal. I use to but stoped. I an not sure if this is true or not but you cant get patches and stuff unless the server host make a new one so then all your work would be gone. Right?

Posted by jason at January 19, 2006 07:27 PM

Exept for the new 1.9 (which has anti-private server incrypted), you can just use the normal patches, all you have to do is change the file "realmlist.wtf", to point to a new server directory (changing it back is easy, it's a 30 byte file!).

The 1.9 client? there are custom patches, your private server will provide them.

Posted by Vaeil at January 23, 2006 08:31 AM

I agree 100% illegal in any way shape or form. But I present another opinion. Why ever kill a MMORG? When the company that produced it is done sqeezing every last penny out of it and decides to pull the plug, release the server side software. I mean c'mon they are done, no longer hosting, supporting, updating, or anything else, sell the server side software. Take credit for the content and inovation the game presented in its hayday and move on. I am sure they could sell it for a reasonable $100 or so with licencing something like microsoft clients 5 bucks a client. Sure it would suck to play a MMORPG all by yourself or with some friends, the game wasn't designed for that. But there is a whole new area to explore to make it interesting. In that they could open it up a bit allow you to control the variables such as gold and experience items etc. Implement a gui interface to alter the common server side variables. That would of course make it possible to alter your charactors to the end see all the content etc. You could have lots of fun adjusting difficulties etc. And they could make money on something they don't need to put anything else into

Posted by jeremiah at February 4, 2006 10:18 PM

Im thinking about getting this private server. WIll i get introuble like get suid or anything? Would they catch me?

Posted by mark at February 20, 2006 09:15 AM

these are all good points, this is an old archive but still visited. lol

i have been using wowemu, and it is great.

blizzard is already getting shitloads of cash, so why do they bother shutting down the little guys, becuase theyre money grubbing idiots.

regads

Posted by alex at February 25, 2006 04:46 AM

Lots a good arguements i agree but the problem for me is why is it taht we have to pay 40 or 50 dollers to get the game then pay
!15! just to play? doesnt the 50 or 60 get them enough? i mean if you check the servers each has like a million people playing and now think of 50 dollers x 25 people? thats some money there even 40 dollers could make them rich! I personaly think they could of made the game a litle bit more worth while:/ i dont want it and do not support pay to play games (as you can see)
now if you want to pay for crap go right ahead but that means thy will keep making crap

Posted by Chris Ray at February 27, 2006 01:19 PM

Lots a good arguements i agree but the problem for me is why is it taht we have to pay 40 or 50 dollers to get the game then pay
!15! just to play? doesnt the 50 or 60 get them enough? i mean if you check the servers each has like a million people playing and now think of 50 dollers x 25 people? thats some money there even 40 dollers could make them rich! I personaly think they could of made the game a litle bit more worth while:/ i dont want it and do not support pay to play games (as you can see)
now if you want to pay for crap go right ahead but that means thy will keep making crap

Posted by Chris Ray at February 27, 2006 01:19 PM

Yes - you can get one. Yes - you are safe. Blizzard has never even tried to sue somebody who ran a private server. 9They did shutdown blizzhackers - but for another reason...).

It is even safer outside the USA.

The server's aren't difficult to find, use a google search!

Posted by Vaeil at March 9, 2006 10:13 AM

LEEEEROY JENKINNNS!!

Posted by Leeroy Jenkins at March 18, 2006 07:56 PM

hi i want to play the free servers but i dont no how i no u have to put the ip in the wow thing but i dont understan wher to put it or anything like that so if anyone could help me plz e-mail me skaterfan255@hotmail.com plz thx

Posted by kyle at April 7, 2006 08:02 PM

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Posted by andré at May 6, 2006 03:52 AM

Is it illegal to '' host '' one of these servers?
even if your a legit wow customer
Also

If are you are to run one of these servers, are you able to keep up to date with the current patches?

Posted by Starhunter at May 17, 2006 01:01 PM

ive dint buyed it i whanted my mom say i must go on a privet server i cant pay it my self each month
ive got finaly the money for the game
but the montly 15.00 Euro's is just to much

what should i do???
plz help me

Posted by Hardline at May 19, 2006 01:29 PM

I wish someone would make an emulation server Motorcity online!!!!!!!

Posted by MCO Nutwagon at May 19, 2006 03:54 PM

I wish someone would make an emulation server for for Motorcity online!!!!!!!

Posted by MCO Nutwagon at May 19, 2006 03:55 PM

Hi all I read the different post, and like you I have been searching a free server for wow, and I found one, is called Pandemonium, and is starting. I like it very much if you want play, the web is:
www.wow-pandemonium.co.nr

See you, and bye

Posted by Jupiter at June 4, 2006 02:59 PM

Now, I don't like to pay 14.99 a month for world of warcraft but... seriously, most of these private servers have barely, if any players. I don't think the average computer can match the internet connection and the processing power of what blizzard has, so the games has bound to have lots of Lag... In addition to that, the general unwholesomeness of playing off of an attempted community makes the experience unworthy... I think I'll stick with my monthly payments because the massive PvP wars and communities on the actual servers are what really makes this game great

Posted by Some Guy at June 26, 2006 04:36 PM

Downloading World of Warcraft is absoultely free. Go to fileplanet.com and download find the WoW Trial and it gives you the full client and stuff.

Now, is that illegally downloading the software itself just to play on the Free Servers?

Posted by Wow Player at June 30, 2006 01:23 AM

thank you this going to be so much fun cuz school is out.

Posted by mathew.messerschmidt at July 2, 2006 03:12 AM

Hello,
My name is Mike and i am from Greece.I'd like to ask something.How i can create an account for the WoW free server's? Plz answeer me!!!

Posted by Mike Steven at July 2, 2006 03:58 PM

Thanks for the post, Ive been hacking games since day one. Be damned if id ever pay for them :-)

Posted by GameBoy at July 26, 2006 09:52 PM

I have personally run a hacked WoW server... it gets boring quick. Blizzard ordered a cease and desist when the beta servers were hacked, but I haven't heard about them doing anyhting against the current emulated servers. Sure, they are still illegal... but that's the most fun part of them. The game itself isn't that great, after you get done looking at all the pretty graphics it gets pretty boring. I played on the official servers for a couple years... I haven't played for about 4 months now... but I plan on re-subscribing after patch 1.12. If you have never played WoW before, and you get on a hacked server, you might think it's cool. If you have played WoW on the official servers, you'll never be happy with the pirated ones.

Posted by Anon at July 29, 2006 04:01 AM

How i can create a private server in wowstatus? please answeer me ç_ç

Posted by Joakim at August 2, 2006 02:26 PM

Okay after reading everyone post, im still lil worried. I do have a legal copy of WoW and i do pay for an account. But i would liek to play on tuesday while they're doing the "cleaning". If i do host a personal sever can Bliz in any way findout and cancel my account.

Plz email me at @ Sneakyp00f@yahoo.com

thankyou in advance

Posted by Sneaky at August 2, 2006 05:41 PM

i have played on a ilegal serve i just wanted to see haw it is the game before i decide to buy it but then i stoped when a friend told me that u can get sue d i hink even as i stoped playing on ilegal serves i still have my IP adress on it is that still gona get me in troble if they sue the server

Posted by kah at August 4, 2006 09:32 PM

Yeah I want to make my own server just cause I wanna mess around with it not make money off it. It's not wrong to make your own server, I mean you did buy the game and all files attatched to it, if you wanna make your own server for the game and run it you can. As long as you're not getting paid for it, that would be stealing. But just playing on your own or with a few friends isn't a big deal.

Posted by Dave at August 8, 2006 04:09 PM

Yeah I want to make my own server just cause I wanna mess around with it not make money off it. It's not wrong to make your own server, I mean you did buy the game and all files attatched to it, if you wanna make your own server for the game and run it you can. As long as you're not getting paid for it, that would be stealing. But just playing on your own or with a few friends isn't a big deal.

Posted by Dave at August 8, 2006 04:11 PM

Blizzard deserves to get the crap hacked out of them :)

Posted by Kill blizzard at August 17, 2006 11:58 PM

Hey, I just wanted to respond to the variety of posts here, but mainly the one complaining about the monthly fee of wow. First, if you don't know much about mmorpgs they are incredibly expensive to run. If they didn't charge you a monthly fee they wouldn't be able to keep the game running as they would very quickly go bankrupt. For those who are in the dark here are a few things they have to pay for just so YOU can have fun playing their game:

1) GMs and tech support, these are people for the hundreds of realms that are up at any given moment who have to deal with every player issue that comes up. And yes, this is a job, they get paid. It's a shitty job dealing with people saying OMG this guy stole my gold, OMG this guy ninja'd this loot...

2)Hardware replacement, I don't know how many of you actually read the notes when you start the game but every few months they are making significant upgrades to multiple servers to deal with player loads...and that's not even counting new servers.

3)Bandwith. In case you guys have never looked into server hosting and internet capable of dealing with 5000+ users on a single server, it's unbelieveable how expensive that stuff is.

4)Programmers and Content. They are constantly fixing bugs, adding new content, entire new instances and gear/quests. This stuff is done within their own company..but they still have programmers that do nothing but work on wow..not just the expansion, but on giving you extra content every few months. This also includes the people who get paid to re-evaluate the talents and stuff. Everything takes money.

These are just a few things, and believe me Blizzard is still making a PILE of money from wow, but don't think it's cheap to keep a game like this going...if you had a game like wow running you sure as hell would have to charge to keep it going smoothly or you would fail miserably.

AS for the whole arguement about the legality, it is absolutely ILLEGAL TO RUN OR PLAY ON A FREE SERVER OF WOW. Even though the emulator may or may not have been written from scratch, the fact of the matter is that it USES the actual game files in such a manner that violates the EULA. PERIOD. Now Blizzard may not care enough to ever go after you, but what you're doing is ILLEGAL in the USA. I don't care what arguement you have, that's FACT.

Posted by Aithos at August 21, 2006 10:21 PM

There's not too much I like about WoW.
- Pay to play, there are games out there that have free servers controlled by the makers
- Lack of RP, nigh to none even
- Quests that everyone does, so there's countless people that killed the same person... unfortunately that happens with almost all MMORPGs

I could be persuaded into playing a free server if it would be more enjoyable to play than the official servers.

Games like NwN and soon NwN² are a lot better. The community hosts their own servers there, build there own worlds in the easy to use toolset, set their own rules and have their own staffmembers dealing with rulebreakers. Servers might not be as huge or populated, but I experience them as being a lot more fun.

Posted by Dazlar at August 24, 2006 12:14 PM

I dont know how to start wow on private server. i've started it last time (2 years ago) but i forgot how to do it again :( can u guys help me plz if some1 have a good heart plz send me e-mail on peleipaja@yahoo.com

Posted by Pajs at August 30, 2006 09:37 AM

Awww Bohoo MegaCorparation loses out ona cpl bux, cry me a river bitch

FILE SHARING RULES! DOWNLOAD WOW OFF BITTORRENT AND PLAY FREE SERVERS!!!

STEAL WOW CARDS FROM WALMART

DONT PAY BLIZZARD!!!

LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!

Posted by Brandude at September 5, 2006 11:27 AM

There is a lot of information on how to set up a private wow server. You just have to google it. I searched for 2 hours and found all I needed to set it up. I set it up last night. It works ok somehtings don't work like flight paths and some quests. Btw, I have 2 legit accounts I pay for. But I wanted to experience the GM side of the game. Also, I wanted to see more of the instance monster lewts. I run my private server on my LAN. It is not published, and is for a personal experience.

Posted by Zhack at September 14, 2006 03:21 PM

HEY I WANNA B PLAY WOW PLZ

Posted by johnny at September 15, 2006 11:12 PM

I HAVE A WOW ACOUNT AND ITS GREAT! I HAVE A LEVEL 40GNOME MAGE AND A LEVEL 45 DWARF YOU REALY NEED TO BUY IT YOU CAN GO ON SOME WEBSITE AND DOWNLAOD THE GAME FOR $29.00 AND THATS IT YOU DOSNT HAVE TO PAY MONTHLEY FEES OR ANYTHING ITS GREAT

Posted by Crystal at September 16, 2006 10:20 PM

This is completely legal, The servers are made through reverse engineering (protected under US law) and hosted at the expence of the individual. With 90+ servers out there hosting thousands of players, if it wasn't legal Blizzard would have done something already. There are some setbacks of course, A server might crash and all data after the last world save is lost. Some can be laggy, but for the price to some of us its worth it. If you look around enough you can find a good server that doesn't crash and doesn't lag. The major draw back is the low population per server. If you've played any MMORPG you know you need groups to complete certain tasks or quests, and you need a large amount of players for a proper economy. But hey, you get what you pay for.

Posted by Kyael at September 17, 2006 11:47 PM

can i play wow without original CD or KEY

Posted by Aca at September 19, 2006 12:43 PM

I used to enjoy playing on the official servers so much. I have like 3 60's on two server plus countless other alts. I bought my game, and payed the subscription cost for a while, but my wife started being a bitch, and I had to either cancel my subscription or get a divorce. I really miss playing WoW. It's the only game I really want to play anymore. I want to play my first 60 and go to Alterac Valley, that would really be fun. I've actually played on these private servers and it's just not the same. It's just like that guy posted above; if you played on the original servers, then these private servers just don't cut it. Most of the private servers have so many bugs it doesn't even make the game that fun to play. The defense skill doesn't work so every hit you receive is a crushing blow, and very few talents work at all. Some servers have an insanse drop rate, but most green items are bugged and don't have stats. It's just not the same. I really wish I could get a free 60day card... I want to melt faces again.

:(

Posted by Disgruntled Player at September 29, 2006 03:03 PM

I live in 30878 Las Vegas, Nevada. Have you been here before?

Posted by Ein Lo Sechel at October 3, 2006 10:40 AM

iam realey love WoW i got friends too many play it but i cant get

Posted by himma at October 19, 2006 11:41 PM

Ive never played WOW at all. I was interested in playing it but didnt like the idea of server fees.
I bring the point to question on "how expensive it is to run theses games" from the developers POV. Well....Guild wars does exactly the opposite..
Its a one off payment ( you buy the game) and its free....so how do they make it SO free....continually updating the game with expansions and lots of extras.
Its on its 3rd expansion soon and every one is vying to get the latest so theyu can get into the new world that opening up etc...so they make their money that way.

It was designed from a split off team from Blizzard, which in itself says something as even the designers wernt happy with thier monopoly.
Whether it is illigal or not i dont care for one. it WILL happen and there isnt a lot you can do to stop it. If its hacked and not reengineered there isnt much you can do as a developer to stop it. its like a mutating viri. close one another 5 open in its place..
Look at the Mp3 saga for that. of how they closed many sites and even more sprung up..
Courts and lawyers simply do not have the resources to battle the unending community of any illigality online as the whole internet is not policed is any great shape or form.
Go check piratebay out, as they only host bit tirrent files not the software etc itself, it makes them close to untouchable as possible. even now they have been raided and they cannot be touched....they arnt doing illigal activities. As people have said unless you are running a cracked/hacked version of WOW then essentially its like Ford saying....you can buy our car and go anywhere you like, except where we say you cant! " they probalby have some small print saying they own this etc and cant do that blah blah which none of us REALLY read in the EULA.
but at the end of the day what company has the resources to sue that many people...really...be honest!

Posted by Duke barradin at October 26, 2006 02:54 AM

I personally believe that posting a pirated server to the net is just asking for more hell than it is worth, but i see no problem with running a local host and playing it straight from the hosting computer. It provides more personal practice and playing time to those who do not have cable or DSL. Although i am sure that Blizzard has some bull crap statement about that in there agreement document. It is all about how smart someone is to evade attention.

Posted by Masque at October 26, 2006 03:14 PM

cmon pplz can u guys trying to act smart and stuff just go with the freaking program and dl the shyt already seriosuly its a freaking game! *poke*

Posted by Angel at November 7, 2006 08:57 PM

lol, i just read it all that - but i have no idea why.... can someone moderate this and remove all the crap! or maybe just delete the whole thing? cheers

Posted by Liam at November 15, 2006 07:07 PM

Ok, I used to be an Admin on a private WoW server. I GM'ed for about 7 months and in that time there was no mention of Blizzard trying to shut us down. It IS a gray area, whether an EMU is legal or not.

HOWEVER, the one thing that is illegal, and specifically mentioned in the EULA is changing your realmlist.wtf file. This is necessary to connect to any server other than the official ones. And you agreed to the EULA because you bought the game not illegally downloaded it, didn't you?

Posted by Russ at November 22, 2006 06:39 PM

Somone plz invite me to there private server
at: andrew.11@cox.net
wit all the info and downloads needed

Posted by YOYO at December 3, 2006 12:14 AM

basically he's doing this to advertise his own site

does anybody have a WoW 60-day game card key that i could please have??? parents wont let me buy one =(
please send it to sykosonic91@gmail.com
thanks a lot

Posted by Ryan at December 3, 2006 09:36 PM

Dude, even IF and IF i bought a game card, I still would not give it to some lame @$$ loser who begs for it,

My parents wont let me?

Dude stop being such a baby and go to the store and buy one!

If your parents are reasonable adults they will at least see what happens if you'd play WOW.

And if they don't, you can say: "Just let me finish until the card expires, because else it's money thrown away." And because parents are always concerned about money, they most likely let your finish
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Posted by Dude at December 7, 2006 06:46 PM

i love wow its cool when i got bc i got a lvl 70 orc warrior and with a bit of tier 4 and i got a lvl 58 troll priest with bc you get bloodelf and a draenei bc is about £24.99 and normal is about £19.99 so get down to the shops and buy it its a rely good game


xxx age 9 xxx

Posted by halim at March 10, 2007 03:16 PM