*Singing*

I love Nintendo!

I love Nintendo!

I love Nintendo!

La La La!

I don't like it at all. I was going to buy a revolution, now I won't.

I think you're mad- the sensors could be used for aiming with the joystick as movement (in an FPS and the main remote control buttons will be easy to use for weapon changing and shooting. I wont bother mentioning the other brilliant possible uses as FPS are most important to me at the moment :)

Something to keep in mind is that Nintendo is going after the non-gamer market with this controller, which is much much bigger than the core-gamer market. Yes, they might lose the diehards but from what I have been hearing from my friends who are over there that the controller "feels" fantastic and will convince hardcore gamers as soon as they pick it up and feel it in their hands.

So if Nintendo loses out a portion of the hardcore gaming market, but manages to convince the non-gaming market to purchase the Revolution, as they are currently doing with the DS, they will win out in the long run ... big time.

Think of how many things to control and how well well you could control them... the options are limitless!

"I don't like it at all. I was going to buy a revolution, now I won't."

*watches you hop on the bandwagon once they show a demo vid of someone controlling the new mario/zelda/SSB game*

I'm just not sure if this whole "casual" aim is going to work.

If i will buy just one system next gen it will be the Revolution. But all the focus on casual gamers just doesn't make sense to me. This is supposed to be unintimidating because its simple? This is by far the most complicated controller out there. and while its "remote control" shape may seems consumer friendly, the crowd after this seem to be the mid-core (not hardcore) gamer. Those who love games but arent so stuck up with brand that they are willing to learn new stuff. And learn you will because each game will need to be retaught.

Now i understand this is simple because you can fish or you can swing it like a sword. But those are all tech demos. Put this into the context of a full game that will last you more than 15 minutes and you've got this stick doing everything including cutting your lunch.

The revolution seems more different and intimidating than the standard controllers. And that difference is exactly why I will like this but my mom wont.

*winces*

I don't know, man..

I completely agree with Steve, I think the whole concept of their new controller in just amazing. Finally a console system that could perform as well or better than the keyboard/mouse combo in FPS games. It just makes sense in about every style of game I can think of.

After listening to the podcast and not being terribly thrilled about dropping $700 on an xbox 360, I will definately be looking into the Revolution when it comes out. I think the DS was a great step forward, this will be even better!

Nintendo really knows how to change the face of gaming. :D

I love Nintendo...a lot. But at first I wasn't convinced this was going to work, that is until I saw the keynote speech and the trailer teaser. Then I read all of the positive impressions...now I have full faith this thing is going to be great. Hopefully the majority of the public catches on. Here's hoping...

The new controller looks like it's going to be hard to use... If it was flat, i'd use it sideways! look at that potential.

Like you said... SIMPLY GENIOUS!

I can't wait!

Screw PS3 and Xbox360's hardware mumbo-jumbo, this is what the industry needs!

sry for type, "genius" :)

BTW, have to see this flash game with the controller, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/mousedown/revo.swf

i think this is a great idea and will do excellent in japan, but if nintendo wants to succeed in the states they need to advertise on television ALOT, being that this is no longer just a product for gamers they need to advertise more then gieco to generate buzz

At first I thought this was pretty stupid, I mean a seperate piece just for a joystick? But now that I've been digesting this information for a while I realize it's going to be much more comfortable, if you think about it, you can rest your hands wherever. plus being able to point at what you want instead of moving a stupid cursor over to it.... This could really work. Of course it might get tiring to HAVE to point at everything, this could cause all kinds of new carpel tunnel syndromish things. We'll just have to wait and see. I really WANT this to work.

I am deeply disappointed with the new controller. A hollow stomach, breathless kind of disappointment.

The touch screen on the DS, and the way Nintendo has insisted on utilising it to the detriment of game play has prevented me from considering it. Now the same seems to be happening with the Revolution. I love the aesthetics of normal controllers. Saturn style controllers are optimum in my opinion, especially for 2D scrolling shooters and 2D fighting games which are my favourite genres. Short of an arcade stick, the two handed controller is my preferred tool.

The monstrosity that Nintendo is now pushing has me reeling back in horror and disgust. I will have a look at the Keynote speech, but I don't think I can be mollified.

Maybe this is the kind of shock I need to help me escape my gaming addiction. Maybe I might be able to finally be free of materialism.

To those people complaing about how it won't work out just look at THIS:
http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/651/651559/understanding-the-revolution-controller-20050916041026412-000.jpg

NOW everyone celebrate for innovation and ?regularness?

I'm so torn. On the one hand I'm confused and scared (no joke) of that controller and I'm furious because it means that I won't be able to play a lot of the 3rd party games I'd like to see on a Nintendo console.

But on the other hand I can't wait to play with that thing! I haven't even seen it in action but I'm intrigued!

I feel like Nintendo shot themeselves in the foot but really they're setting themselves up for something big. If they listen to Jimbo and advertise like crazy they will have a success on their hands.

And if all else fails then they have the old GameCube controllers to fall back on. Not to mention the sneers and snark of XBox and PS fanboys to make the Nintendo Family get very, very defensive.

I've been thinking about this controller actually. It may actually be a very good thing. I can image them creating the greatest first person shooter ever with this controller for example.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559p1.html
http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651275p1.html

Its either going to be totally amazing or just a step along the road, but either way i imagine there's people at Microsoft and Sony cranking out prototypes of their own right now.

I don't see how you can say this will be good for FPS games? How exactly are you supposed to turn around and shoot behind you? Turn the remote around and point it away from the TV? FPSs on consoles have always sucked, this will change nothing.

A mouse and keyboard is still the best for any FPS game. An average mouse/keyboard user will be able to own anyone using that remote. Same with the Xbox controller in Halo.

I think this is going to be a very interesting next few years.

I agree with the earlier comment about the possibility of a lack of third party support. However, as I've said elsewhere, Nintendo is banking on a couple of factors.

1. Because this won't have the bleeding-edge graphics capabilities of the other Gen 3 systems, it should be easier and cheaper to write for this console. Not as much 3-d modelling time means you don't have to have as big a budget (good for smaller and more independent game creators - Greg Costikyan should be pleased), and you can fit more gameplay as opposed to graphical resources on a disk (meaning a possibility for longer, deeper games - good for hardcore gamers).
2. Portability isn't necessarily a big deal. They had people playing Metroid Prime: Echoes with the nunchuck setup, and according to what I've heard, it wasn't all that difficult to make the transition between controller styles.
3. You cannot discount the Nintendo backcatalog. That's one of the main reasons I'm going to buy this system as soon as it comes out. Super Metroid? Starfox 64? Ocarina of Time? And I can download them and play? Yeeeeee-haaaaaaawww!

I am, admittedly, a Nintendo fanboy, (Gamecube is the only 2nd gen console I own, and I just don't see anything that compels me to buy/play Xbox or PS2), and as such I am dying to see them hit one out of the park. This could be it. I think it is. I guess we'll see when it hits shelves (next year?)

Look, there are a few things we're all forgetting.

#1) Nintendo isn't trying to get anybody who visits this site! We're the hardcore gamers/fanboys/game nerds/etc. who already buy these things. Their new controller is meant to get everybody else.

#2) Even if they lost all of our dollars to Sony or Microsoft, Nintendo will still be making money from that everybody else from #1.

#3) The draw for us gamers is all about the downloadable games! I lost my copy of OoT, and being able to play it again is a dream come true.

#4) Stop complaing cuz we're all getting it anyways. Its going to be cheaper than PS3 or Xbox 2 and everybody has that one Nintendo franchise they can't live without, wether it be Mario, Zelda, Metroid, or whatever. Plus, you can plug it into that Wavebird-esqe controller so it will be more comfortable for us with all of the functionality of the normal remote.

Just between me you and the wall, I could give a flying &*#( about playing a FPS game. I have a PC for that. If I was all about FPS I would be panting over one of the other two consoles that are caught in a pissing contest.

I think this design, including the shells that have been mocked up would be perfect. Mind you Nintendo will probably hit a $200 price tag on this, I'll gladly wait for the Revolution. Meanwhile I can get a second ds and finally experience a two player game.

Can you tell I'm no longer into most of todays games? There are so many clones of crap, and when something original does get released, it never gets much press because of the next FPS RPG Sports game hype.

I welcome any innovation Nintendo can introduce. I applaud them for taking a risk for the sake of gaming and not just trying to pry every last dollar from your hand like Sony and Microsoft. I get the feeling that Nintendo is only company that truly has their heart in gaming, as opposed to "getting a piece of the industry" towards their bottom dollar.

My two cents.

You're out of your mind if you think Nintendo doesn't want your money just as much as Sony or Microsoft. They are a business, after all.

I for one am glad that this is the revolutions controller.Just look at all the possibile games they could make with this(Starfox, Legend of zelda,Metroid,Super Smash Bros,animal crossing,A fishing game,Basketball,Football,Golf,nintendogs,) the list just goes on and on. (PS. Anyone that doesn't like it hasn't tried it).

And on that same note; everyone who's acting like its the second coming of Jesus Christ hasn't tried it either.

There I am, complaining about how there are no games anymore and nintendo does this. I'm speechless.

"You're out of your mind if you think Nintendo doesn't want your money just as much as Sony or Microsoft. They are a business, after all." - Khash
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Perhaps, but there is one difference: Nintendo's going to get it.

Hey,

Well, this is my first post here, but I've been listening to the Gaming Steve podcast ever since iTunes 4.9 came out, and it's definitely one of the better podcasts out there. I can't wait to see what these new huge changes are going to be; keep up the great work Steve!

Now, on to the Revolution controller: I think it's going to be awesome! I've always been a huge Nintendo fan. The GameCube is the only console I own (my brother owns the PS2, but I never play it.) I never owned the NES and SNES, but I grew up playing the original Game Boy and the N64. I've always loved Nintendo, and even when a lot of people were really losing faith in them during the N64/PS generation, I never did.

When I first saw the controller, I thought it was a little weird, as I think most people did. But after seeing the video and Iwata's keynote, and reading all the IGN articles about the possibilities, I'm extremely excited for the Revolution. I think it's going to allow both Nintendo and 3rd parties to make some truly amazing innovative games, and I think it really has the potential to change the gaming industry forever.

Now, for everyone who's saying that Nintendo is going to lose all the 3rd party ports, please go to IGN and read all the articles about it, especially that link Areku posted above, which is a mock up of the announced conventional controller "shell" accessory. Nintendo has announced this, but they didn't show any pictures of it, and they also didn't announce whether it would be included with the system. They did say the analog stick accessory would most likely be included with the system, but they didn't say whether or not they would include that shell. Although I absolutely love the new controller, I do think they're going to have to include that shell. For one thing, all the conventional 3rd party ports are going to require it. While I think some 3rd parties will change the Revolution version of their games to utilize the controller in very cool ways, there's no way all 3rd parties will do this, and they will definitely need the extra buttons that the shell provides. Also, while people are saying you'd be able to turn the Revolution controller on its side to play NES games, that wouldn't work for SNES, N64 or GameCube games, because there aren't nearly enough buttons. So while old GameCube controllers will be supported, not everyone who wants to play these old games (and multiplatform games for that matter) will have old GameCube controllers. So, I really hope Nintendo does include this conventional controller shell with the system, because if they don't they could actually lose a lot of 3rd party support.

But again, I really admire Nintendo for making a bold move like this and really trying to revolutionize the gaming industry. I have definitely felt a lack of hype for the PS3 and Xbox 360; I think a lot of people just are not very excited about them, because they're really just revamps of the PS2 and Xbox, with better graphics, and much more expensive. Something completely fresh and different was definitely needed, and of course only Nintendo could provide that breath of fresh air the gaming industry sorely needs. :)

Long live Nintendo!

Adam

P.S. Steve, I love your long podcasts, keep them up! :) Also, I would like to see more interviews with people from the gaming industry. Is that a possibility? I know you have a lot of friends at some big gaming companies.

Sorry for the very long post; I sometimes tend to ramble on. :)

At first i thought the controller was going to be weird and i was going to get a PS3. But then i started thinking about the possibilities of the controller.(Not really. I heard Nintendo is going to release a shell for the controller that will be like a "regular" one.) But the tilt-sensitive thing is kind of cool. So i will get the NRV. NINTENDO RULES!!!!

At first i thought the controller was going to be weird and i was going to get a PS3. But then i started thinking about the possibilities of the controller.(Not really. I heard Nintendo is going to release a shell for the controller that will be like a "regular" one.) But the tilt-sensitive thing is kind of cool. So i will get the NRV. NINTENDO RULES!!!!

Quote from above - *I don't see how you can say this will be good for FPS games? How exactly are you supposed to turn around and shoot behind you? Turn the remote around and point it away from the TV? FPSs on consoles have always sucked, this will change nothing.

A mouse and keyboard is still the best for any FPS game. An average mouse/keyboard user will be able to own anyone using that remote. Same with the Xbox controller in Halo.*

Khash, if you were to just stop for a second, and think about what you posted you will find the answer. Ok, let me assist you. One fellow human being to another. It has already been reported by the lucky fellows who have used the controller that after you get over the initial desire to wave the remote around like a crazy person, you quickly realise that tiny subtle movements have you pointing exactly where you want to. They reported playing Metroid sitting down in a comfortable, natural position. Now when you play a FPS on a pc do you make huge wide sweeps with your mouse in order to aim? No. Now start to imagine the controller like a mouse only in 3d. Quickly flick your wrist a little to the left or right and your looking behind you. Move it slowly in either direction for precise aiming. Wanna zoom in with your sniper rifle? Then gently push it forward a little. Wanna zoom back out? Just reverse the action. So when you stop and think about it, it really kinda makes sense now doesn't it? If you play on a mouse and wasd set-up then you can see how you'll take to this like a duck to water can't you? It's so obvious. And don't even ask about all the other possibilities because they are almost limitless. Cheers

I have something to say about the Nintendo Revolution controller. I think the other NintenFan up there was talking about this, but he was kinda hard to understand. Anyway, Nintendo will release an add-on to the TV remote thing that lets you play Rev games on a normal remote. So anyone who has doubts about the remote, there you go.

I feel I need to add a comment or two, the 1st regarding a few concerns being posted on various sites when it comes to 3rd party ports and development. The last demo that the journalists who have played with the controller experienced, was the 1st level of Metroid Prime:Echoes. There were two reasons Nintendo showcased this. 1st, and an important point in it's own right, was to demonstrate how easy a FPS feels using this new control method. In fact I've read two reviews from two different people who state that not only could you rotate and aim with ease and precision, but that there was absolutely zero to little concious thought or effort involved. But 2nd and most importantly, the game itself had been re-configured to implement the controller in only a couple of weeks. This implies that a FPS as the example given here, can be easily ported over to the Revolution. The crux of the situation is this. If all the software houses we've come to rely on for our favourite genre of game have no problem porting, what we're gonna see is not only the games we've come to love getting a new lease of life via a wholly unique method of input, but those same software companies being inspired to develop titles that will utilise gameplay methods that they have perhaps only dreamed about up until now. The comments so far from industry experts and programmers would seem to reflect this. Everyone wins in the end. Let's not flame each other when it comes to brand loyalty. There should be no such thing. They won't pay your medical bills after you've contracted arthritic joints years down the line :-p Hell even Peter Moore acknowledged Nintendo for it's input to gaming as a whole. I love GAMES and to me that is the ONLY thing that matters. If Sony or Microsoft had come up with this idea I would be applauding them instead, it just so happens Nintendo has thought outside the box to enthuse not only hardcore gamers but new ones too. The fact is this. If the industry continues as it has been, and cornering only niche markets then we all lose out cos there will be no industry. To compare. I don't particularly like sloppy, candy-assed romantic, feel good movies, but if there were only the 4 or 5 different genres I like, there would be no movie industry. There's just too few people to support it. Let's get behind the industry as a whole and thank f**k someone has tried to revive it. Cheers

I think that nintendo can keep that new controller but also make another kind too. i mean the new one is way kewl but if they also make another kind you can buy that is connected in the middle but still is wireless like the same thing without the chord that is a little outstretched in the hard plastic center. it would make the customers that hate the idea have something else to look for. remember variety is just another way of saying do things as you like and have it your way. sorta like burgerking:)

you know i think the controller is pimp but i think they should stop making fucking game systems. too many are out and its hard to resist buying metal gear solid games if they are out on a new system. but nevertheless this is a pretty kewl system.

Where is the B or the X or Y come on how is super smash bros melee gonna work out. how will i jump or use specials. i mean seriously where is the love. this is gonna be crazy i have been loyal and bought all the nintendo systems but how in the heck am i suppose to live with extended hands holding a pair of numchuks (i hope i spelled that right). but it would be nice to have the familiarity of the controler i am using for the GC not something maxi from soul caliber 2 would use to defeat his enemies with.

W.T.F. mate!!!

The only thing that really puts me a bit off about this controller is the attachment you add on to the bottom. Look at how long it looks...or rather, how short. That's going to keep my arms/hands closer together than would be comfortable. It seems designed to be comfortable for children or the smaller-build Japanese. I hope they have some larger length cable connections. I don't consider myself to have a huge build or anything, but it really seems like your arms have to angle in at your stomach in order to comfortably hold that add-on with the remote. Especially if you're going to be swinging that remote around like a sword or a fishing rod... You're going to practically rip that other attachment out of your hand with even the slightest bit of movement.

The Nintendo Revolution and its controllers provide a new innovative way to enjoy gaming.... Just imagine... playing your Revolution while laying on the couch from ten feet away munching on a bag of potato chips with your free hand....Happiness.....

I have to comment about what that Werd Letosed guy said. There is an attachment to the controller that makes it like a regular controller. Two people have posted about it already. If you want to see a mock-up of the controller, go to ign.com and search for revolution stuff.

Hey I think the controller is awesome, but i have an unrelated question. I have heard NRV has "out of the box wireless intermet capabilities" What does this mean and what is required for this? Someone could just give me a site that explains it.

Don't get me wrong, i love nintendo, but these new contollers are GAY!!!! Just stick to the gamecube contoller. it fits your hand perfectly. i guess you could change it a little, but this new contoller are almost changing my mind on buying the nintendo revolution. i might just buy an xbox 360, at least they have a desent controller. i guess these contols arnt as gay as the PS3's.

Why so disappointed? Nobody has even tried the controller yet, so how come some of you guys are already dissmissing the idea of the 3D-space function? After all, it doesn't in any way limit the gameplay experience, and nintendo has already announced the development of a "wave-bird-like shell", like I said: why so disappointed?
I think you should try and stay positive regarding all the future consoles because none of them isgoing to suck, they're all gonna be great, but in different ways.

It's amazing! Imagine Zelda of Metroid! WOOHOO! YAY!

I think this controller will be good for shooting games, but i don't know about fighting games. I couldn't imagine having to aim at my opponent with the remote and pressin A or somethin to hit him. I'm probably gettin it anyway. They couldn't possibly ruin Super Smash Bros. I just hope someone else wants it 'cause otherwise Nintendo might go bankrupt.

I have somethin to say about the website, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/mousedown/revo.swf
that "Armin" posted. If the revolution has gay games like hittin a guy in the butt with a bat, it will be very, very disappointing. Hopefully, some crazed fan created that little game and the revoultion games will not be anything like that.

P.S. Does anyone know a website that already has screenshots/gameplay videos of revolution games?

I got somethin to say about Xbox 360's controllers. All of 'em ain't wireless. That sucks. Anyone can go out and just get a wireless controller for their Xbox 1. Anyway, now to Nintendo. That numchucks thingamujig is kinda dumb. The only use i could find for it is beatin up my sister wit it or somethin. Why would someone even need that attachment?

I love nintendo so don't get me wrong about anything. Sony's Ps3 looks like a george coleman grill and xbox360 looks like a small,old, dumb little computer. no kidding. I have one question though how are we going to play rpg games. I also don't want to pay $250 for it. Well any way i will have to have it. i can't wait to be able all of my gamecube games and all of the history games. Oh ans super smash brs. revolution is going to be AWESOME!

I'm trying to look at the hole picture. The idea of a system that works for eveyone is a revolutionary idea, however not everyone is going to want to play it. What I mean is that no matter how hard you try your not going to get people like parents and grandparents to want to play games just because the controller looks like a remote. I will want to play video games because I grew up on them and my kids and so on, not the other way around. There are games out there right now that only need one button and a d-pad to play, but do my parents or grandparents, want to play those games? No. Could they if they wanted to? Yes.

I have played games on every game system todate and I'm only 21. I love games fighting, first person, roleplaying, rts, etc. I have played with joysticks, controlers, keyboards, and even the wheels for racing games. And there is a good point, the steering wheel controlers. I got on of those to use on all my racing games, it went into the trash. It was harder to use that to make turns or anything, then it was to use a contral pad. I mean just about everyone knows how to drive. Most do it every day. but now those wheel controlers are few in numbers they didn't work. just because you use a remote just about everyday, doesn't mean it will work for games.

But hey, controlers have been changing with every new game system. it started out with a number pad with a knob and joysticks with two buttons. Now its two joysticks, two triggers, eight buttons and more. It may work the remote style, it may not. Sony and XBox are sticking to what they know works and are changing only slightly each time so that the last bunch of gamers can move right along with the new bunch.

I think is a cool idea, but a safe back up is to have a controler that gamers are familiar with. So that if the remote controler doesn't workout, they can relase the new controler that already works, or even more they could give the option of what controler to have and let people decide.