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i have gta san andres and if there is anything bad on than it tells u on the back of the case.and i beat the game there is no sex scene on any part of it.

Wow, a game that is already rated M is getting heat for having a sex scene hidden. I find that a little bit ubsurd. Politians wont be happen till we are only playing pong.

If Rockstar/Take2 did put those scenes in and not tell the ESRB, I say fine them so heavy it that takes away every bit of profit they make of the extra publicity and then some!

What is the contractual agreement between the ESRB and game companies? If it includes something to the effect of "If you hide from the ESRB content within the game in order to acheive a lower age-rating, then you are subject to fines" then R* is at fault.

The problem is not that they put it in the game, they are free to put whatever they want in a game, but that they hid this content from the ESRB.

i play san andreas a lot and i haven't seen 1 frikin sex scene i mean you can pick up hookers or do your gf but it never shows shat so these politics are fickin retarded!!!!

This is BS, there is way too much Sexophobia in the US right now. The ONLY way you can access this content is if you are LOOKING for it. Your twelve year old son (Why is he playing GTA:SA in the first place??!?!?) is not going to get to it.

It isn't uncommon to have contents left in the game before release. a good example is Zelda:Windwaker.

I believe R* thought better of it and decided to disable access to it, and didn't have time to remove it or risk removing and risking bugs.

It wasn't meant to be discovered. R* probably underestimated it's players tech savy.

You all aren't getting the point here... It's not that they hid a secret sex game in the game that you can get to by pressing up up down down left right.... it was at worst a peice of code they had on the disc that they then removed ALL ACCESS TO, that someone found and replaced to allow you to play the game. This minigame was in NO WAY accessable with the game in the state it was in. The only way you can get to this is install a mod available on the internet. This mod may infact just be adding the minigame to the actual game in which case the entire thing is a scandal over something not in the game itself (much like the nudity skins in the sims) either way they were not responsible to show the ESRB because they are supposed to only send them video footage and code of any material ACCESSIBLE IN THE GAME that would effect the raiting of the game. This is all basically because some no name idiot in the house saw didn't understand what a mod is.

Ryan

Steve I'm sorry to say but Dennis McCauley is a moron. Ignore the content of the "hot coffee" mod and look at it for what it is, a mod that uses unused code in rockstars game, now being used by a no name representative to gain a political name for himself. To punish rockstar for this will tell every other gaming company that they had better lock their code against any modders because the politicians are never going to be able to understand the difference between a mod and the actual game. He brings up the columbine mod. Would you really want Id or the Half-Life team to lock their code so we cant make mods? When I saw his website I had hope that we would have a source for political news, and someone that news outlets could call upon for a more enlightened political view of the about video games. Guess I was wrong

I heard that this was put in for the foreign market but they decided to lock it for exactly this kind of response.

Personally I think that it is not way hard enough, since the protagonist Carl is fully clothed! What an outrage! What was Rockstar thinking putting in that kind of unexplicit sex-scene!

Im having trouble downloading the new episode num17. when i went to download it from ituns like alway it did it except when i listened to it there were only first two min of the show on it. i tried downloading it here adn it says i already have it.

For all the sick parents out there buying these games for their children....

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??!!?? These games are rated this way so your kids can't buy them, and if you didn't, who did? Not them, I'm 25 and got carded to buy my copy!!! So now if I'm 25 getting carded, why are we concerned about kids playing these games? Who the hell is selling these games to them? Noone I know that works at a video game store. Last time I talked to them they were sick of little kids ruining our games too!

Video games are not responsible for anything- where are the parents? If I had kids I wouldn't let them play this, so why are you letting yours? Take care of your family, and quit blaming other people/venues for your parental misteaks. It's not the games fault. It's yours. Accept it, correct it, or go blow your freakin brains out. Just be sure to send your kid to a boot camp so when I log onto Halo2 I don't have to put up with them there. If you were such a good parent your kid would not be playing games with these things in them. "M" stands for "Mature" which children are NOT. So keep your kids off OUR games, and espically XBox Live. Why are they on there too? If you/they don't want to hear or see these things, STAY AWAY from it.

IT'S THE PARENTS FAULT. Noone else. Quit blaming Manson, Ozzy, as well as the music and game industry for what you lack as parental leadership. I don't run around eating the heads off doves, and if I did I would not hold Ozzy responsible.

If it's such a bad idea to let "mature" people see and do the things GTA lets us, maybe we should ban porn as well. This country is obsessed with sex. I remember the movie industry staring a new rating "NC-17"- which is the equivalent to "M". So how come that movie got to hit the theater? Why didn't they make you go to a strip club to watch it?
Parents don't rent 'those channels' for the kids do they? Then why are they buying these games. GROW UP PARENTS! TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY- I'll take care of mine.

GET A CLUE PARENTS! And a freakin hammer and MONITOR YOUR CHILDREN. It's not society, it's you. It's not our laws, our criminals, or our freedom of speech, IT'S YOU being a bad parent and not taking care of your children. Quit finding someone else to blame for your inability to love and raise your child. Learn how to be a parent- if you want them playing 'safe' games and music, go to Walmart, everything there is censored! Don't ruin my freedoms over your laziness.

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It is offical, San Andreas got a AO rating. It is on Gamespy.com

First off, even if there is a mini game, look at the whole game in general. It has graphic killing sprees, drugs, hookers, and every other word is a curse word, and parents are concerned about some polygon boobs and a little computer graphic sex???!!!??? That would probably be the cleanest part of the entire game!!! Next it is rated mature 17+. At that age you can go buy a porno! People are just rediculous. I could see if the game was like pokemon or a childs game, but come on now!!! The whole thing is starting to remind me of the lady that sued McDonalds for the "HOT COFFEE" incident!! Rockstar rules! Leave them alone!

The only complaint i have is simple. Now I cannot even trade in my copy because of a hidden "scene" WTF?

My dad says i cant get the game because of everyone thinking that theres a sex seen on it. So i've saw most of you have the game.Is there a sex see?